Dear KMAG: 20201025 Open Topic

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The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


It’s time to replace
a failed and CORRUPT political establishment
with a new government
controlled by you, the American People.
~ Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


The bedrock foundation of Christianity is faith; faith that Jesus, the Son of God, our Messiah, who died for our sin and rose again, is our personal Savior. 

But, the question may be asked, “How strong must my faith be?  What about those little doubts that creep in from time to time?” 

The first thought I have on this question is that my faith comes from God; it is not my personal attribute.  God gives faith in the form of a gift (Ephesians 2:8) (we don’t earn it or deserve it), because of His grace and mercy, and because He loves us. 

Faith is not the product of a preacher’s compelling presentation, his eloquence, or even his theological soundness—faith is given through the message about Jesus. God gives us faith “by hearing, and hearing by the word of God”.  This is the means God has chosen. It is through the Word of God that faith comes to us . . . and since that faith comes from God, it must be sufficient for His purpose.

The second thought I have is that we have a great illustration of the amount of faith required from the Old Testament and the Children of Israel, who were wandering in the desert for 40 years because of their lack of faith, their unbelief that God would bring them to the Promised Land as He had promised.  This is related in Numbers 21:

4 Then they journeyed from Mount Hor by the Way of the Red Sea, to go around the land of Edom; and the soul of the people became very discouraged on the way. 5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.” 6 So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died.

7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.

8 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived.

God judged the people by sending snakes, and many of them died.  But the Israelites simply had to look up to that bronze snake in order not to die. How great a faith did the action of looking at that bronze snake take?  All an Israelite had to do, in the hope of a promise from God that he can’t see, was look at the bronze serpent on the pole. That is the example, the preview, that God gave us in the Old Testament of us now, trusting in His Son, who was lifted up on a cross for our sins.

The third thought I have is from Matthew 17:14–20, where we see Christ’s disciples unable to exorcise a demon from a young boy, even though Jesus had previously given them the authority to do so. When they asked Jesus why they weren’t able to drive the demon out, Jesus replied, “Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘move from here to there’ and it will move; Nothing will be impossible for you” (Matthew 17:14–20).

What Jesus is saying is that with very little faith, indeed, we (actually God) will do great things.  The power of faith is all from God, and He will do great things on our behalf if we have but small amounts of faith.

Just as Moses lifted up the bronze snake in the desert, Jesus was lifted up on Calvary. In John 3:13, the Bible says “No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him may have eternal life.”

John 3:16. “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” That’s the significance of that Old Testament event. It is this, that we deserve to perish in hell because of our sin. But another has been put there in our place, Jesus Christ.  He has paid the full price for our sin. Us too, all we need to do is by faith trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ and we will be saved.

590 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20201025 Open Topic

  1. Maine visit.


    The AP’s Jonathan Lemire reported via Twitter Sunday morning, “The FAA has advised that on Sunday, beyond a planned rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, that President Trump may also visit Bangor, Maine — part of the state’s second congressional district, which awards its one electoral vote separately and went for Trump in 2016”

    Bangor Daily News reporter Michael Shepherd reports it is not clear if a rally is being planned, “I’d caution the people assuming this is a “rally” that we don’t actually know what it is right now. There’s some indication that Trump could make an off-site visit. #mepolitics…his isn’t being ticketed or noticed like a rally, for example. #mepolitics”

    “President Donald Trump will visit the Bangor area today as part of a late addition to his campaign schedule. He will land at Bangor International Airport at 2:30 p.m. and head to Treworgy Family Orchards in Levant, according to a source familiar with the president’s plans.”

    The orchard visit was also reported to Rachel Maddow by a Twitter tipster, “@maddow Trump will be flying into Bangor, Maine, this afternoon, for a rally to take place in Levant, Maine, at Treworgy Orchards. Friends of mine just got kicked out of the orchards by the Secret Service.”


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  2. The Library

    New York Democrats have gone full Nazi SS.
    Trish Intel

    NY Gov. Cuomo: ‘If You Take Away The Money From Orthodox Jewish Community, They Will Comply’ – Trish Intel
    New York’s Governor Andrew Cuomo has threatened to withhold public funding from Orthodox Jewish communities that do not enforce the Covid-19 rules at schools.

    Harold Wren

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  3. FTA emphasis added

    Senate votes to limit debate on Barrett Supreme Court nomination, move toward final vote Monday evening

    The Senate will have 30 hours to engage in debate over Barrett’s nomination before voting

    The Senate voted 51-48 Sunday afternoon to limit debate on the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett, setting up a vote on her confirmation for Monday evening.

    Sunday’s vote limited debate over President Trump’s court appointee to 30 hours, meaning the full Senate will be able to hold a confirmation vote Monday beginning at approximately 7:26 p.m. ET.

    Two Republicans voted against ending debate, Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine., and Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska. Murkowski has, however, indicated that she will vote to confirm Barrett.


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  4. Larry Schweikart@LarrySchweikart
    Buzz Aldrin picks Arizona Republican McSally over fellow astronaut Kelly #FoxNews

    Buzz Aldrin picks Arizona Republican McSally over fellow astronaut Kelly
    Famed U.S. astronaut Buzz Aldrin appeared to endorse Sen. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., in her race against retired astronaut Mark Kelly, a Democrat.

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  5. The Library

    For anti fascists, #antifa look & act exactly like the Nazi Brownshirts. #terrorism
    The Post Millennial

    BREAKING: Antifa militants attack ‘Jews for Trump’ supporters in New York City
    An all out brawl broke out in Times Square in New York City on Sunday. Antifa militants raided through a police barricade and attacked Jewish pro-Trump supporters and pro-police demonstrators.

    Harold Wren

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    1. Has cryin chuckie had even ONE WORD to say about Jews being persecuted in NY? about Cuomo and his mandates? Just one word?

      How ’bout slime media? TV in NY? Anybody?

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    2. Jack Poso has a thread of videos of Antifa attacking this convoy… throwing paint on the vehicles, hitting people


      Meanwhile, Heels Up is outside Voting precinct shouting through a megaphone… police have used orange cones to slow down the traffic…

      I think she’s in Detroit… she’s scheduled to make a speech there… maybe this is it? She must be drinking… if not drunk… guess her “campaign” doesn’t have the money for a regular venue (but then she wouldn’t have a crowd)… This way, she can claim the long line of voters waiting to get in to vote, are actually there to see her.

      Thank the Lord I don’t live in a big city…

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  6. The Library

    So how many people were taking money from #ukraine ?

    #BidenBribery #BidenCrimeFamily


    Greg Rubini

    BOOM !! – Ukraine corruption John Kerry: “All of us were trying to get rid of that Prosecutor: me, Joe Biden and Obama” also OBAMA was in it Retweet!

    Harold Wren

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      1. Remember, Q told us, those that scream the loudest, have the most to hide. Obama, Kerry, Hillary, Biden, McCabe, Comey, Lynch, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, L. Page, Marie Yovanovich, Alexandra Chalupa, Bill Taylor, A Vindman, Christopher Steele, John Winer, Victoria Nuland, Ben Rhodes, Susan Rice, Val Jarrett, Bill Priestap, James Baker, Sally Yates, Christopher Way, Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman and more. NO small group eh.

        Worth remembering.

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        1. No PRex… no small list. Even longer… 3/4 of Congress/Senate? Deads of agencies, some in military… some governors, past and present. America will be shocked.

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            1. Oh I didn’t mean you don’t have a longer list… my goodness you have been way down these rabbit holes… just reminding others of the enormity…

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    1. “BOOM !! – Ukraine corruption John Kerry: “All of us were trying to get rid of that Prosecutor: me, Joe Biden and Obama” also OBAMA was in it Retweet!”

      The Ukraine prosecutor in that quote is Viktor Shokin. He has survived two assassination attempts through poisoning. Both times he was clinically dead, but survived.

      Article excerpt:

      “Giuliani states that Shokin was dismissed due to the threat of Biden not to allocate one billion of usd to Ukraine

      Former prosecutor general Viktor Shokin was poisoned twice allegedly as he possesses the information about money laundering by ex-Vice President of the U.S. Joseph Biden and his son Hunter through Burisma Company as Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani reported on Twitter.

      “(Shokin, – Holds doc’s proving money laundering by Burisma & Biden’s. Fired due to VP Biden’s threat not to release $1 billion in vital US aid. Shokin’s med records show he was poisoned, died twice, and was revived. Lots of heads will roll in Ukraine if this opens up”, Giuliani reported.”


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  7. Okay, I missed this last night at Ace of Spades… figure we could all use a laugh…

    HOWEVER, if you’re prone to get the ‘vapors’ when racy jokes are told… suggest you scroll on by…

    The Saturday Night Joke

    The madam opened the brothel door in Elko County, Nevada, and saw a rather dignified, well-dressed, good-looking man in his late forties or early fifties.

    “May I help you, sir?” she asked.

    “I want to see Valerie,” the man replied.

    “Sir, Valerie is one of our most expensive ladies. Perhaps you would prefer someone else,” said the madam.

    “No, I must see Valerie,” he replied.

    Just then, Valerie appeared and announced to the man she charged $10,000 a visit.

    Without hesitation, the man pulled out ten thousand dollars and gave it to Valerie, and they went upstairs. After an hour, the man calmly left.

    The next night, the man appeared again, once more demanding to see Valerie.

    Valerie explained that no one had ever come back two nights in a row as she was so very expensive. There were no discounts and the price was still $10,000. The gentleman did not blink an eye. Again, he pulled out a wad of cash, gave it to Valerie, and they went upstairs. After an hour, he left.

    The following night the man was there yet again. Everyone was astounded that he had come for a third consecutive night, maybe a record in the history of brothels in Nevada, which date back into the early 1800s. But without hesitation he paid Valerie the ten grand and off they went upstairs.

    After their session, Valerie said to the man, “No one has ever been with me three nights in a row. Where are you from?”

    The man replied, “Billings, Montana.”

    “Really,” she said. “I have family in Billings.”

    “I know,” the man said. “I regret to tell you, but your sister died, and I am her attorney. She asked me to give you your $30,000 inheritance.”

    The moral of the story is that three things in life are certain:

    1. Death

    2. Taxes

    3. Being screwed by a lawyer

    Posted by Misanthropic Humanitarian
    (H/T Legally Sufficient)

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    1. Methinks they will be ORDERED to re-open it… or it will be opened elsewhere…

      Probably some Øblowhole holdovers and patsies are on the laptop, too…

      THROW DA BUMS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

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      1. Well for sure AFTER the election when WRAY is gone and Ric Grenell as Acting Director sweeps the Bureau clean… or perhaps Ric will be Acting AG… Biden et al will be dealt with by mil tribunal. At that point optics won’t matter, normies will be ready for Mil… and what’s left of the DIM party can go pound sand. (I’ve really got to work on expressing myself …)

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        1. I told you, the FBI IS TOAST. Guess WHO can pic up the investigation, WITHOUT FBI approval? Ever here of the US Marshalls. I knew you did. You know the ones who have been STEADILY rounding up the child traffickers for a few years now. Some in the FBII are going to PRISON. They have MORE to worry about besides their pensions and jobs!

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      1. I think all of them in Washington (DC), Virginia, Delaware, etc. are crooked as can be. So, it doesn’t matter if the agents are the same. They acted in the same manner. The Delaware AG is crooked… Joe is like the godfather in Delaware… “Big Guy” ! I listened to a video of Robert Barnes with Richard Baris, talking about polls and topic of course turned to the laptop as it was probably that day… Barnes said “Obama (being from Chicago) is knowledgeable about crime families involving guns and drugs… he needed Joe for those families involved in politics… grifters. Between the two of them and Clintons…

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    1. Wow.

      I have FLAMING liberal relatives in Wales… gotta wonder what they’re going to do… probably winter down in Spain or something like that…

      The Welsh are used to hardship, but eventually they reach the point where they’ve had enough: that point may soon be here…

      Beautiful country, wonderful people, and almost all of them sing… Richard Burton quipped that he was the only Welshman who couldn’t sing… but his perfect diction and mellifluous voice more than made up for that…

      P.S. Sometimes I think that the UK are used as the testbed for just how far the EC/EU Derp State can push the “commoners”, just before spreading their poison throughout the rest of Europe. Time to send them to the fresh HELL the DEMONicRATS will soon enter…..

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  10. Trump crowd in Maine exceeded 3500 at an farm orchard out in the country – a last minute event with an unannounced location until the morning news.

    Kamala had an event in Detroit with the Governor of Michigan and got maybe 100-200 to show up.

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    1. President Trump’s crowd:

      Kamala’s crowd:

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      1. True – it is possible – after all – when he was first installed – he travelled the country and visited the field offices – do not think this was just to meet the employees, either – a ‘sleeper’ can go either way – easy for anyone to say – he did nothing – maybe, that was the plan – timing is everything.

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  11. Short ground report.

    Was just in Smith”s (Kroger’s) Dayton, NV.

    Vegetables and fruit way low. Asked the dude working vegetables / fruit what was the deal? He said, “they always short our orders”. Hmmm.

    So I asked is this, “short” across the store? He said yes, in many areas.

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  12. Chanel Rion OAN@ChanelRion
    $3.5 million to Biden’s Rosemont Seneca from Moscow?

    Try again.

    The big question: If FBI KNEW there was a ***FAR BIGGER NUMBER INVOLVED*** why did they only tell Johnson’s committee the number was $3.5mill?

    Hint: 3.5mill was a payoff. What for?

    Stay tuned. @OANN Exclusive.
    6:28 PM · Oct 25, 2020·

    Chanel Rion OAN@ChanelRion
    Replying to @ChanelRion

    First Reported August 15 in my @OANN Investigates “BIDEN BRIBE TAPES” Series, Part III…

    Gutseriev, Luzhkov, Baturina, Podesta, Band, Biden, Heinz (Kerry), Archer…

    It’s coming together.

    TRUMP-RUSSIA was a Dem projection stunt. It was DEMS-RUSSIA from the start.

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    1. The name “Rosemont” is a Heinz/Kerry entity… ties back directly to them…

      can’t recall where I read it today… probably from Jack Poso

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