Dear KMAG: 20200920 Open Topic

This Superlative Sanctuary Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

It’s time to replace
a failed and CORRUPT political establishment
with a new government
controlled by you, the American People.
~ Candidate Donald J. Trump


Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And,


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


How should Christians react
to the death of evil people?

Christians are often left wondering how they ought to feel when an especially evil person dies. For instance, at the death of Kim Jong Il, Osama bin Laden, or even in history at the death of Hitler, are we to rejoice/celebrate? Interestingly, the authors of the Bible seem to have struggled with this issue as well, with different perspectives being presented in different passages.

First, there is Ezekiel 18:23, “’As surely as I live,’ declares the Lord God, ‘I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live.’” Clearly, God does not take pleasure in the death of evil people.

Why is this? Why wouldn’t a holy and righteous God take pleasure in evil people receiving the punishment they deserve? Ultimately, the answer would have to be that God knows the eternal destiny of evil people. God knows how horrible eternity in the lake of fire will be.

Similar to Ezekiel 18:23, 2 Peter 3:9 states that God is “not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” So, in terms of the eternal destiny of evil people, no, we should not rejoice at their eternal demise. Hell is so absolutely horrible that we should never rejoice when someone goes there.

Second, there is Proverbs 11:10, “When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.” This seems to be speaking of the death of evil people in an earthly/temporal sense.

When there are fewer evil people in the world, the world is a better place. We can rejoice when justice is done, when evil is defeated. A mass murderer being removed from the world is a good thing.

God has ordained governments (and the military) as instruments of judgment against evil. When evil people are killed [referring to lawbreakers, specifically], whether in the judicial system via the death penalty, or whether through military means, it is God’s justice being accomplished (Romans 13:1-7). For justice being done, and for evil people being removed from this world, yes, we can rejoice.

There are many other scriptures that could be discussed:

Deuteronomy 32:43 – “Rejoice with him, O heavens; bow down to him, all gods, for he avenges the blood of his children and takes vengeance on his adversaries. He repays those who hate him and cleanses his people’s land.”

Job 31:29 – If I have rejoiced at the ruin of him who hated me, or exulted when evil overtook him . . .

Psalm 58:10 – The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked.

Proverbs 17:5, 24:17-18 – Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished.

Jeremiah 11:20 – But, O Lord of hosts, who judges righteously, who tests the heart and the mind, let me see your vengeance upon them, for to you have I committed my cause.

Ezekiel 33:11 – Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?

but Ezekiel 18:23 and Proverbs 11:10 are likely sufficient to help us achieve this difficult biblical balance.

Yes, we can rejoice when evil is defeated, even if that includes the death of evil people. Ridding the world of evil people is a good thing. At the same time, we are not to rejoice at the eternal condemnation of evil people.

God does not desire that evil people spend eternity in the lake of fire, and He definitely does not rejoice when they go there. Neither should we.

https://www.gotquestions.org/evil-people.html


As sort of a wrap-up here . . . if we claim to be Christians, we claim to be followers of Christ. So what did Christ have to say that might bear on this issue?

“But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.”

Love, bless and pray for . . . difficult tasks? Surely. Impossible for imperfect humans. But those are our goals and those goals should be foremost on our minds as we work through not just this particular situation, but those that we will with certainty encounter in the future.

This is our role. God has got the vengeance and justice side of this equation well in hand.

Jeremiah 9:23-24 Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the Lord.”

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479 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20200920 Open Topic

  1. More blood on the hands of blm andvthose who support the commies, even by doing nothing.

    DEB-PLORABLE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@DebHaslam) Tweeted:
    BREAKING:Bar Owner Charged For Killing Rioter That Attacked Him and His Business Has Committed Suicide😳
    Jake Gardner who tried to fight off BLM terrorist, shooting and killing one of them in self defense, committed suicide.
    He NEVER should’ve been charged https://t.co/av0SLXyHvg

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    1. The white local d.a. said self defense, then allowed it to be “reinvestgated” dt political pressure. The US district attorney took over after being appointed by a judge, and she put a black CHICAGO NATIVE in charge who made up b.s. charges. The guy didnt have the money to fight it seems and couldn’t have made bail.

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      1. https://www.ketv.com/article/jake-gardner-man-charged-in-scurlock-death-has-died-by-suicide-sources-say/34089387#

        Dornan said that Gardner left Omaha following Scurlock’s death amid death threats, and went to California.
        “The grand jury indictment was a shock to him,” he said. “He was really shook up.”

        He said Gardner was difficult to reach due to the fires in California, but that he did intend to return to Omaha. He was going to be accompanied back to Omaha by a fellow veteran, Dornan said.

        He said Gardner was afraid of returning to Omaha and that he had hired a bodyguard.

        “Jake was worried he was going to get shot on the way here, that some of those folks would gave him death threats…would carry through with them,” Monaghan said.
        He said Gardner was afraid of returning to Omaha and that he had hired a bodyguard.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        Antifa/BLM are domestic terrorists

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  2. Notice all the white peeps pushing BLM… ?

    Jack Posobiec Flag of United States@JackPosobiec
    ·
    2h
    BLM quietly scrubs anti-American language from its website, fact-checkers ignore it
    EXPOSED: BLM quietly scrubs anti-American, Marxist language from its website
    BLM has changed its messaging, scrubbing their rhetoric in favour of disrupting the nuclear family from their site.
    thepostmillennial.com

    https://thepostmillennial.com/exposed-blm-quietly-scrubs-anti-american-marxist-language-from-its-website

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  3. Reposting….

    ==============
    kalbokalbs
    September 20, 2020 at 18:58

    Next week, 21-25 will be chock full of booms!

    The WINNING continues. And as Flep says, there is nothing D-Rats can do to stop the WINNING. 🙂
    ==============

    .
    Nothing can stop what is coming.
    Nothing.
    Q

    .

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    1. The Repulican senate did not take up a vote on the Garland nomination because they knew what the rest of us knew…

      He was murdered by the Obama administration, who expected Killary to win in a cakewalk and go into ‘17 with the WH and having flipped the SCOTUS.

      Didn’t turn out that way.

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    1. oh go pound sand all ye gas heads…

      Graham is going to vote for POTUS’s nominee…

      The Republicans are going to confirm his nominee..

      shut up and deal with it…

      now, see if you can wind up puppet Biden to get back to bed.

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  4. They’re lying about RBG’s “last request.”

    Liked by 9 people

  5. One of Garrison’s from the era of the Obama administration (2013). Still plenty of tyrannical holdouts, both in National and in State governments, who are making life difficult with their Covid-19 related restrictions.

    Liked by 8 people

  6. Sarah Huckabee Sanders
    @SarahHuckabee
    AOC is now the face of the Dem resistance to President
    @realDonaldTrump
    ’s pick for Supreme Court. Any Senate Republican on the fence should be thinking long and hard about what his future looks like siding with AOC and the liberal mob against a well qualified conservative nominee

    Liked by 14 people

  7. It’s really bad when Chad Pergram goes ‘whoa’….

    Liked by 12 people

  8. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/right-worship-not-given-by1st-amendment-protected-1st-amendment-san-francisco-archbishop-speaks-says-throw-bums-mentality-growing-video/

    Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone: The government has no authority telling us we can’t worship. They have no authority to tell us whether or not we’re essential. They have no authority to tell us what sorts of worship are essential. They have the authority to tell us what we need to do to keep people safe when they worship. But those restrictions can’t be so severe to effectively ban worship… The right to worship is not given by the First Amendment, it’s protected by the First Amendment… Current San Francisco law allows only one person inside a church at a time to pray… No one has given me the rationale. There is no rationale except discrimination. They’re discriminating against us. This is clearly targeting against us… I sense a sort of … “throw the bums out” sort of mentality.

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  9. Who’s Gonna Be Lucky Indicted #2? – Brian Cates Retweeted
    Tracy Beanz
    @tracybeanz
    ·
    11h
    Thread: In light of the new book coming out by the agent who found the Clinton emails on the Weiner laptop, I am sharing this thread again. I’ve had it pinned for two years for a reason.
    Quote Tweet

    Tracy Beanz
    @tracybeanz
    · Apr 15, 2018
    1. OIG BOMBSHELL!! Hidden within the OIG report on McCabe’s leak to Barrett of the WSJ, is an astronomically damning correlation between Loretta Lynch, the NY Field Office of the FBI, McCabe, and the NYPD. PLEASE SHARE
    Show this thread
    Show this thread

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  10. Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    Replying to@STUinSD

    2. You can check out the entire document (if you can stomach it) here. It is the wet dream of every member of the Communist Party of the USA since its founding in 1919:

    Click to access 2020-07-31-Democratic-Party-Platform-For-Distribution.pdf

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
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    2h
    3. Universal healthcare and Medicaid for all Americans and illegal aliens. (Pg 61)

    $15 minimum wage

    Immediate citizenship for illegals (Pg 63)

    Free college (Pg 65)

    Forgiveness of student loans (Pg 71)

    Eliminate border walls and Immigration Enforcement (Pg 62, 64 & 65)

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
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    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Make DC the 51st State

    Abortion for “all women & girls.” (Pg 83)

    $70T Green New Deal, where the USA would be “net-zero greenhouse gas by 2050.” But CLOSE all coal & natural gas pwr plants by 2035. By 2030 all new construction in the US must be net-zero greenhouses

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Create a U.S. Agency for Global Media “to ensure that only accurate information is reported in the news or on the internet.”

    Rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement

    Create a new federal agency of 100,000 people to trace every American.

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Immediately restore voting rights for convicted felons.

    Provide funding to facilitate vote-from-home and mail-in-voting.

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Create a new Federal Credit Bureau (to replace Equafax, et al), and require banks to use this new credit reporting service that will be set up to assist low-income people in buying houses and cars.

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Make gun manufacturers responsible and liable for how their guns are used. (Destroy gun manufacturing)

    Declare and treat drug use as a mental illness instead of an illegal activity.

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    3. (cont’d)

    Declare the support for the Rights of BLM, Multi-gender, and preferential treatment for gays wanting to immigrate to America. (Pg 63)

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    4. This is leftwing insanity! No wonder there are no Biden-Harris campaign ads detailing these socialist policies, as Americans would reject this nonsense out of hand if they knew EXACTLY what Dementia Joe and Ho Harris are about.

    Cancel the Dementiacrats on 3 Nov – Stu Cvrk@STUinSD
    ·
    2h
    5. This is a hard lesson for many, but those who have “friends” (or family) who vote for this crap are decidedly NOT your friends at all. Quite the contrary! They would – wittingly or not – destroy the futures of your progeny by electing #Dementiacrats on 3 Nov. ///The end.

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  11. Exclusive: Pennsylvania Legislature Prepares Federal Lawsuit to Challenge Mail Voting Rulings

    SEAN MORAN | 20 Sep 2020

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/20/kerry-benninghoff-pa-house-suing-to-block-pennsylvania-supreme-court-election-rulings/

    Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff (R) revealed to Breitbart News Saturday they will sue to block the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s rulings that would allegedly create “opportunities for fraud” to benefit former Vice President Joe Biden.

    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court issued three rulings on Thursday, extended the deadline for mail-in ballots to the Friday after Election Day, ruled voters could use dropbox to return mail-in ballots, and removed the Green Party’s presidential ticket from the ballot.

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    1. Mark Levin talked about how the PA legislature (majority Republican) has final word on their election laws and need to pursue striking down their SC rulings regarding the up coming election.

      On Friday nights show a woman legislator called in and discussed it with Mark and said she was going to pursue in with the republican leadership….looks like she did.

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              1. Well .. 🤔❓ .. I don’t think she ever had a firing brain 🧠 cell in that booze addled noggin … she’s a wysiwyg: what you see is what you get

                and this goes back to her cheese cake modeling stint in front of new cars in the late 1950’s/60’s

                She is long in the tooth ya know .. 😐👍

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              2. Oh, I see – never really followed her foibles, Nikki – the one that got me was the ‘Ice-Cream in the Refrigerator’ – that irked me since so many were out of work – and she was holding up the Stimulus payments.

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              3. Nope – and then, she lied about going to church – until the Archbishop spoke out – she did not lie about the 12 people permitted – but, I doubt any priest would give her communion considering her stance on abortion. The people in her district live in poverty while she flaunts her wealth in ice-cream – the only way she has been in Congress for so long is through election theft – who would vote for her?

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  12. Roscoe has a thread on the Wiener Laptop
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307454887064633346.html

    Remember 2016, there’s been some slow development in the Weiner Laptop ordeal. Former FBI agent John Robertson told the IG about massive delays out of the NYFO coming from the seventh floor of JEH.
    Robertson said for weeks after being alerted, top FBI leaders including Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Bill Priestap took little to no action to investigate. Only after threats to go public by the NYPD who had the laptop did they finally act.

    All this was buried by the seventh floor while they devised a way to white wash it with an interview unlike any suspect has ever been given with a possible NATSEC breach of this magnitude.

    The FBI was never interested in holding anyone accountable only damage control
    Robertson wrote a “Letter to Self” in late October after an Oct. 19, 2016, meeting, during which he implored Assistant U.S. Attorney Amanda Kramer of the SDNY to push FBI leadership to look at the thousands of emails he had unearthed.

    Robertson says he was told by Kramer that should he decide to ‘whistleblow,’ he would be prosecuted to the fullest.
    Any of y’all remember the interview with @SidneyPowell1 where she talked about the contents of the Weiner laptop and how contacts she knew that had seen what was on there described it as the worst things they had ever seen.
    Mind you the laptop was confiscated by the NYPD child crimes task force. These aren’t some new LEOs, these are child crime specialists that have all seen some horrendous things. They don’t call NYC freak show central for nothing. And cops like that to be shocked that’s something

    Robertson also said the FBI possesses 20 times more emails than Comey testified to.

    “While Comey did not know at the time about what I had a copy of, people in the FBI do now, and as far as I know, they are being silent.” 🤔

    IG’s 2018 report on the Clinton email investigation noted a federal search warrant was obtained on 9/26/16, for Weiner’s devices & that the “Weiner case agent” (Robertson) noticed “within hrs” that there were “over 300,000 emails on the laptop,” including between Clinton & Abedin

    I know that @Perryalt1 has both tweeted about FBI NYFO William Sweeney in the past and it pretty much went ignored. I was told by a contact that it was Sweenry that also got the NSLs for Schiff on @DevinNunes @RudyGiuliani @jsolomonReports.

    Sweeney is a not clean in any of this.

    Sweeney was alerted by Robertson two days after the laptop discovery, and Comey/McCabe were informed by Sweeney.

    Text messages show McCabe, Strzok, & Priestap discussed the Weiner laptop on 9/28/16, & Strzok said he initially planned to send a team to NY to review the emails.

    But a follow up secure VR call with the FBI’s New York office was scheduled next day instead.

    The fire was put out as far as containing any possible NYPD leak about the laptop, however it’s NYPD and Rudy still has eyes everywhere. Rudy planted the seed on Fox what was coming

    OIG wrote that “after Oct 4, we found no evidence that anyone associated with the MYE investigation, including the entire leadership team at FBI HQ, took no action on the Weiner laptop issue until the week of Oct 24, and that was brought on because it was public, damage control

    They did so only after the Weiner case agent Roberson expressed concerns to SDNY, prompting SDNY to contact the Office of the Deputy Attorney General Yates on October 21 to “raise concerns.”

    They immediately had to react and Comey fired of[f] a letter to congress about it.

    OIG said that the FBI’s explanations were “unpersuasive justifications for not acting sooner” and “the fact that Strzok and several other FBI members of the Midyear team had been assigned to the Russia investigation was not an excuse for failing to take any action.”

    CRAP!!! I hope his is wrong on this.

    All you giving false hope that @realDonaldTrump is going to be able to pull off a recess appointment need to just stop right now, and focus on reality, Schumer’s a lot of things but he’s not stupid, there’s no way a recess appointment happens with the rules currently in place

    Schumer has been blocking all potential recess appointments by utilizing the procedural tool that has been used full time since the inauguration of @realDonaldTrump’s presidency, it’s parliamentary tricks that Mitch won’t undo because he knows it would come back to haunt him.

    It’s called pro forma sessions and I expect the Senate will hold pro forma sessions throughout any upcoming recess to prevent a recess appointment from happening.

    It’s nothing new and has been used by both parties, Mitch blocked Obama recess appointment after he pulled off the first and only one of his presidency.

    that’s the reason Mitch knows if h changes the rules of the Senate it will come back to bite him in the ass later, just like what happened to Harry Reid when he went nuclear for lower level judges.

    The pro forma sessions are usually held every three days and while any senator present can open and preside over a pro forma session, the attendance of other senators isn’t required. Most pro forma sessions happen before a nearly empty chamber.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1307804054924472320.html

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    1. If things work as they should, Pres. Trump will not need a recess appointment. I have no doubt that he, his team, and McConnell know what the Dems would do.

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    1. They were practicing “kicking in the door” by kicking the air. Pathetic. But illegal if they really do it. And they have anounced their intentions. I don’t believe for a moment anyone will kick at Lindsey’s door. It’s illegal, and they know it, and there is video of their “practice.” I think someone is leading the sheep to think they will be doing something significant, when they will just be making nuisances and fools of themselves. If they really show up, it would be great if Lindsey had some kind of *surprise* for them.

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  13. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/20/murkowski-same-standard-2016-fill-scotus-seat/

    To some extent I am repeating myself it bears saying again….

    They chose scorched earth against the American people.

    In 2016 Republicans were not leading a resistance against the President, burning down cities, spying on their opponents, framing their political foes for removal from office, nor engaging in treason by working with foreign governments to take down their political opposition.

    After all of this, after Covid and lying about and withholding life saving treatment for the virus and sending people off to die and infect others in nursing homes for the sake of their political narrative, after imposing vote by mail voter fraud on the American public and employing lawyers and threats to extend the election until they can generate enough false votes to defeat their opponents, we must not and can not give them their way.

    Lisa Murkowski is a weak disgusting trojan horse foisted on the people by some of these same tactics.

    Imo, she has no right to lecture us or pretend to speak for our side.

    She is one of them.

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    1. I am going to add to this.

      They have shown us who they are, what they think of us, what they are willing to do to get their way and we have had a taste of what it would be like if they are allowed to regain power.

      They will, imo, stop at nothing to take down all opposition and take total, totalitarian control.

      Even with the President in office, we have faced discrimination and loss of freedoms from those on their side in a position to impose their views on the rest of us.

      We did not fight or step up to the plate when Lisa Murkowski slipped in to get elected and we are paying the price,

      Live and learn.

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      1. FYI, the Senate could have refused to seat her due to her being a sore loser. The GOP had no business giving her back her GOP seniority AND her GOP committee assignments (since she did not win as a Republican).

        Lots of blame to go around for that witch.

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    1. I think it could be taken two ways:
      1. that, like a bot, she malfunctioned.
      2. that Pelosi was just showing that she didn’t want to answer his question and employed her sickly “sweetness” in a way that came off as silly.

      She always falls back on muh Constitution, which she launched into here, so it’s hard to know which one it is. It does look like a brain glitch.

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      1. You are right Truths. She sometimes does a sort of NLP pause to reset the conversation. That pause often does work to cause the listener to memory wipe what as just said.

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  14. All of Epstein’s flight logs have been subpoenaed. Per Gateway Pundit https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/developing-passengers-epsteins-flight-logs-named-epsteins-rich-famous-pals-panicking/
    quoting The Mirror: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/passengers-epsteins-flight-logs-named-22714180

    From the article:
    __________
    Logs for every flight made by Jeffrey Epstein’s aircraft over 21 years have been subpoenaed, “sparking panic” among his rich and famous pals.

    The Attorney General for the US Virgin Islands, where Epstein had a home, has demanded logs for his four helicopters and three planes, from 1998 to his suicide last year.

    Denise George has filed a lawsuit against Epstein’s estate, alleging 22 counts, including aggravated rape, child abuse and neglect, human trafficking, forced labour and prostitution.

    As well as the passenger lists, Ms George is seeking any “complaints or reports of potentially suspicious conduct” and any personal notes the pilots made.

    The subpoena demands the names and contact details of anyone who worked for the pilots or who “interacted with or observed” Jeffrey Epstein or any passengers associated with him.

    Pilot David Rodgers provided logs in 2009 showing Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Naomi Campbell were among those who flew on Epstein’s “Lolita express” jet.

    It is not suggested they were aware of Epstein’s wrongdoing.

    Lawyers for the victims say the 2009 logs did not include flights made by chief pilot Larry Visoski, who flew for Epstein for more than 25 years.

    A legal source said: “The records that have been subpoenaed will make the ones Rodgers provided look like a Post-It note.

    “There is panic among many of the rich and famous.”

    Prince Andrew’s friend Ghislaine Maxwell, 58, who is in jail awaiting trial on grooming and sex abuse charges, often piloted helicopters to Epstein’s private island.

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  15. Who’s Gonna Be Lucky Indicted #2? – Brian Cates@drawandstrike

    Buckle up. In just the next 7 days we could see:

    1) A Supreme Court nomination
    2) Durham indictments
    3) Ukraine investigation into Bidens/Burisma/Privet Bank going public
    4) More Arab League nation treaties with Israel

    10:15 PM · Sep 20, 2020·Twitter Web App

    —————————————————————-

    Brian could have added a few more, but this list is a good start.

    Remember to breath y’all … and keep the music goin’ …

    Liked by 4 people

    1. As Q said in 4737,
      SEPT 21-25 [track & follow events]
      Running RED.
      Q

      We can be pretty sure a SCOTUS nominee will be named this week. That’s just one boom that will send the Left into a frenzy.

      Liked by 5 people

  16. Wish this was true..

    Liked by 1 person

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