Dear KAG: 20200813 Open Thread

Quick author note: many thanks to our host, Wolfm00n, for covering in emergency circumstances. My neck of the woods was sans electricity (we say “power” in these parts, Coothie) about 38 hours following a tree branch falling on the 220 line (it took four splices to put it back together). At this time, the ice maker is productive, and the dogs are no longer panting for being way too hot in the middle of the night. Here’s to a decent night’s sleep…last night I was longing for an old fashioned sleeping porch.

Look out, y’all. I found a new Youtube parody channel:

More of this patriot’s work appears at the bottom of this post. In the meantime…..

All this isolation and idle hands is just inviting…well, this:

Yeah, the virus is smaller than anything coming out of an aerosol can. Some of us actually did pass physics a long time ago. Really, this guy just wanted to play with fire.

Anyway, here is the anti-COVID 19 narrative sing along song.

Bop, bop, bop

Feel free to hold hands, and touch. But, please, wash them afterwards.


As usual, this is the daily thread, the place to put all information that needs to be out there – Q drops, Q drop decodes, riot information, rumors about MAGA rallies starting up again, news flashes, Chy-na flu updates, fashionable mask photos, satire, memes, and of course cute animal videos.

In the meantime, the short and sweet version of “THE RULES” is here borrowed from Tuesday:

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Since it is almost the weekend, the reminders are in place to not swing from the chandeliers, wash your hands and face, and be nice to the liberals whether they deserve it or not. Making your bed, OTOH, is optional.


From Psalm 78 (77 in the Douay-Rheims)

[52] And he took away his own people as sheep: and guided them in the wilderness like a flock. [53] And he brought them out in hope, and they feared not: and the sea overwhelmed their enemies. [54] And he brought them into the mountain of his sanctuary: the mountain which his right hand had purchased. And he cast out the Gentiles before them: and by lot divided to them their land by a line of distribution. [55] And he made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tabernacles.

[56] Yet they tempted, and provoked the most high God: and they kept not his testimonies. [57] And they turned away, and kept not the covenant: even like their fathers they were turned aside as a crooked bow. [58] They provoked him to anger on their hills: and moved him to jealousy with their graven things. [59] God heard, and despised them, and he reduced Israel exceedingly as it were to nothing. [60] And he put away the tabernacle of Silo, his tabernacle where he dwelt among men.

[61] And he delivered their strength into captivity: and their beauty into the hands of the enemy. [62] And he shut up his people under the sword: and he despised his inheritance. [63] Fire consumed their young men: and their maidens were not lamented. [64] Their priests fell by the sword: and their widows did not mourn. [65] And the Lord was awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that hath been surfeited with wine.

[66] And he smote his enemies on the hinder parts: he put them to an everlasting reproach. [67] And he rejected the tabernacle of Joseph: and chose not the tribe of Ephraim: [68] But he chose the tribe of Juda, mount Sion which he loved. [69] And he built his sanctuary as of unicorns, in the land which he founded for ever. [70] And he chose his servant David, and took him from the flocks of sheep: he brought him from following the ewes great with young,


Not sure which of these I like better. Please vote in the comments:

531 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20200813 Open Thread

  1. So glad you have electricity again… and Pgroup is correct … “DP always has power” !

    Thanks for the N Diamond “Sweet Caroline” … a fav of many here I’m sure.

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  2. Some anons and some Trump supporters have been monitoring Flynn’s twitter banner for eons

    Apparently the new one suggests to them that BOOM! It’s coming. (Jes reportin’ … been there so many times I feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy and it’s football season)

    Jeanne Sparkling heartStatue of libertyFlag of United States@jhodnot
    Replying to @2runtherace @JuliansRum and @GenFlynn

    AND he added #DigitalSoldiers to his bio! We are ready, sir!

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  3. Hi everyone!
    A2 posted this site on CTH earlier. Sometime after the 2016 election, I didn’t visit CTH too much, but when it was time for 2018 mid-terms, I kept looking for flep (fleporeblog) for his infectious optimism with his numbers. Nowhere to be found, along with many regular posters! I wondered what happened and where you all went. I’m glad to find you again, and I hope all is well with everyone!

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    1. Welcome, but if you post here, I advise you (1) do not engage in discussion of CTH or Sundance here, and (2) do not engage in discussion of me, Flep, the posters here, or this place, while you are at CTH. Otherwise, you are apt to be banned at CTH. Just a fair warning. If you are banned there, you are welcome here, but if you value posting at CTH, stay out of discussions of it elsewhere.


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      1. Hi Wolf! Thank you for the welcome! Also, for the warning! I missed whatever happened, but it seemed a safe enough assumption that ties were cut all the way around. I stay in my lane! I’m generally more of a lurker than a poster. I am glad to have found you guys, though. I haven’t had much of a chance to look around your site yet, but I’m looking forward to it. Just in the bit of scrolling through a couple of posts, I recognize at least 8 names that I’ve missed reading comments from. Including you!

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          1. Thank you! Flep always gave me hope for particular reason! Even if I didn’t understand his numbers, he”s a happy warrior for our President, and I’ve missed him! (Among others)!
            I just got confused, though… A post just popped up

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  4. I’ll stand by last night’s statement.

    You don’t need electricity to “smote […] enemies on the hinder parts: […] put them to an everlasting reproach”.

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  5. Okay, question. I just tried to post this (see below) over at Side Porch for Daughn, but the screen just refreshed and the comment did not appear. What does this mean?

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    1. Guessing.

      – Da bin put it in time out Daughn will have to rescue the post. Most likely.

      – Same thing happened when I was dispatched from sum dudes place, OT. Click post, screen refreshed and found myself at the top of the page. Quite unlikely. Daughn of course incredibly friendly, helpful and surely, sensitive to ban hammer.

      Da bin is my bet.

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    2. I’m just guessing, but….I think Daughn saw how TPTB were pulling down websites, deleting people off of social media, and nuking things off the internet — and pulled a bunch of her stuff off of here to put on her own site (and hopefully backup to disk). There’s about 45 “posts” there that are actually “pullovers”. I suspect your comment got nicked by some automatic whizamagig and she’ll get to it once her own flood of data gets sorted.

      And, BTW, I would recommend that everyone with a site review their backup policy and ensure they have something local. I mean, you can currently buy WD 12t drives for $220.

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      1. Maybe it’s a blanket policy thing, but I did successfully post on her site when she first launched it so I think I’m on the “list” as okay to post. Maybe the WP / akismet censorship is especially touchy about anything mentioning Taiwan.


  6. DAUGHN!
    Check this out…

    Taiwan not required to pay Qing Dynasty bonds, China is: former premier
    Post 10269661 • on 8kun from

    China should pay US$1 trillion in Qing Dynasty bonds, not Taiwan: former premier

    TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – As U.S. President Donald Trump mulls reviving claims on US$1 trillion worth of Chinese bonds dating back to the Qing Dynasty, Taiwan’s former Premier Sean Chen (陳冲) says that Taiwan is not legally obligated to repay the debts, but Communist China is.

    In the latest twist in the increasingly bitter U.S.-China trade war, Trump met with a group of bondholders called the American Bondholders Foundation (ABF) who are requesting that the president push China into repaying debt accrued during the Qing Dynasty to build a railroad. The Hukuang Railways Sinking Fund Gold Loan of 1911 was issued bonds that year by a consortium of banks in London, Berlin, Paris, and New York to fund the Hukuang Railway from Hunan to modern-day Guangzhou.

    The group, led by Tennessee cattle rancher Jonna Bianco, claims that as the communist Chinese government in Beijing claims sovereignty over the whole of “China,” it is the inheritor of the debt issued in 1911. “The People’s Republic of China dismisses its defaulted sovereign obligations as pre-1949 Republic of China debt, but doing so contradicts the PRC’s claim that it is sole successor to the ROC’s sovereign rights,” Bianco said to Bloomberg in late August.

    The bonds amount to US$1 trillion when factoring in their terms, inflation, and interest. The Trump administration is delving into the possibility of forcing China to repay the debt as a term of the trade negotiations or swapping it for the US$1 trillion in U.S. treasury securities it currently holds.

    Chinese state-run mouthpiece the Global Times claimed that when the Communist regime took power in Beijing on October 1, 1949, the government abolished all unequal treaties and canceled foreign debts. It claimed that it does not have any obligation to pay back any outstanding debts after Chiang Kai-shek (蔣介石) fled to Taiwan in 1949 with a number of loans in hand.

    On Sept. 9, Chen said that according to Article 63 of the Act Governing Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area (臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例), “The following debts shall not be repaid prior to national unification: Outstanding foreign currency bonds issued in the Mainland prior to 1949 and the short-term Gold Bonds of 1949. Various debts owed by any government bank as well as any other financial institution accepting deposits before their retreat from the Mainland.”

    As for ownership of the debts, he gave the example of bonds issued by Farmers Bank of China (農民銀行), which was originally operated by the ROC government in China. However, in 1949, the bank’s assets were seized by the Chinese Communist Party and incorporated into the People’s Bank of China, which later became the Agricultural Bank of China.

    Chen said all debts owed to bondholders by the former Farmers Bank of China are now held by the Agricultural Bank of China, reported CNA. Therefore, the Chinese government is ultimately responsible for these bonds

    Chen emphasized that the Taiwan government does not bear the assets of the Republic of China before 1949 and has no reason, legal or based on principal, to repay debts incurred prior to that year. He concluded that the government should revaluate why Article 63 retains any debts to be repaid upon “unification,” according to the report.

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    1. Went back to see what Q had to say on Romney. This might add to the mix nicely:

      Alexandra Chalupa, Ukraine & The DNC Plot to Link Trump to the Russia Hoax
      13 Nov 2019 – 11:54:51 AM

      Click to access 2017-07-20%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20%28Ukraine%20DNC%20FARA%29.pdf

      Read carefully.
      Re-read carefully.
      Spy_insert [EC] known?
      Re-read drops re: Spy_insert.
      What do these people have in common?
      Pelosi’s son
      Kerry’s son
      Romney’s son
      Biden’s son
      Hint: Geo location: Ukraine
      Hint: Energy
      When [GS] calls, D’s always answer.
      Nothing can stop what is coming.

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  7. Which Steve Stewart video do I like best?

    I kinda like the ‘What a Wonderful World’ video best of the three…but they’re all good.
    Heheh. 😄

    Nice work on the thread, DePat.
    I like the choice of scripture, too!

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    1. Scripture readings are always from the Daily Mass readings of the day. In practice this one would look like this:

      R. (see 7b) Do not forget the works of the Lord!
      They tempted and rebelled against God the Most High,
      and kept not his decrees.
      They turned back and were faithless like their fathers;
      they recoiled like a treacherous bow.

      R. Do not forget the works of the Lord!
      They angered him with their high places
      and with their idols roused his jealousy.
      God heard and was enraged
      and utterly rejected Israel.

      R. Do not forget the works of the Lord!
      And he surrendered his strength into captivity,
      his glory in the hands of the foe.
      He abandoned his people to the sword
      and was enraged against his inheritance.
      R. Do not forget the works of the Lord!

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  8. Tucker’s opening monologue from Wednesday night.

    He starts out saying that the Big Banks who have long controlled Joe Biden, are thrilled at the choice of Kamala Harris as his VP candidate.

    Then he goes on to blast the whole thing.

    “What if you had an election and no one cared what Voters thought?”

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      1. On this I caught that the Johnson’s Committee members in June had authorized the subpoenas – I now remember that – it was forgotten in all the virus coverage. So Johnson isn’t being honest when he says Senators are blocking issuing the subpoenas. While privately, they may not like it, they did write the authorization letter.

        Just more Swamp doing nothing.

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          1. Yes, I saw that on social media yesterday, but last night the authorizing letter was posted – it was authorized – so the delay is behind the scenes pressure being put on Johnson. But Johnson blaming Romney exclusively isn’t quite honest. He’s playing a role in this.

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      1. Well, MY PRESIDENT appointed Bill Barr, who the fuck appointed you, Sundance?

        That’s MY PROOF.

        Sundance and his ego are really started to piss me off.

        And I think he was drunk-tweeting like a jilted teenage girl.

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        1. BINGO. Did it EVER occur to anyone that Sundance is THE head fake? Seems AWFULLY like a DIS info campaign to me. We KNOW that Barr IS and HAS been doing things. It was BARR himself that coined the phrase “political” spying” and he did it in his hearing last year, when he REVEALED that Durham had been HIDDEN in the Huber investigation, for OVER a year. A LOT sure got exposed since then.

          Did it EVER occur to Sundance that HE is being played? That the Cabal is USING him and his platform to sow the seeds of dissent and dis info to DISCREDIT both Durham AND Barr before the big reveal, which we KNOW is coming?

          What BETTER way to try to discredit Durham, who has had ZERO leaks, than to label him as a head fake, thereby discrediting anything he says BEFORE he even says it.

          Sigh, Sundance’s EGO is in the way of his good sense, AGAIN. Notice please his PUSHBACK against ANY dissent. Notice too where HJE assumes an AWFUL lot of POWER in trying to insinuate that HE is in negotiations with Barr and or Durham on this and THEY asked HIM to delay.

          Talk about your Woodward and Bernstein complex.

          I am NOW convinced that it is SUNDANCE that has been compromised, just like Drudge. Think, WHY would ANYONE try to jeopardize a FOUR year take down of the Cabal, by trying to throw SHADE on the coming haymaker, by stating, it was ALL a feint. Does NOT make sense for someone who is SUPPOSED top be MAGA. It DOES make sense for someone trying to DISCREDIT that info AND it’s SOURCE (Durham).

          Now, ASK yourself, WHO benefits from the discrediting of Barr and or Durham? That’s right the CABAL.

          Now FURTHER ask yourself, IF Barr were swamp, as Sundance intimates, WHY did the dems over the last several months, and ESPECIALLY that FARCE of a hearing, try EVERYTHING to trash or discredit Barr, to even threaten to impeach him or to try and get him to resign?

          WHY would they do that if he were “secretly” on team Cabal? Have they EVER attacked Wray? Rosenstein? How about even Sessions? NO, because they were HELPING the Cabal either directly or INdirectly. They SURE AS HELL went after Grinnell and Ratcliffe haven’t they?

          IF Durham was SO much useless, and a feint or ruse, as the almighty one (in his own mind) suggests, WHY was the ONLY question that the dems let Barr answer unfettered about DURHAM and WHEN his report was to come out? Did they EVER ask about Horrowitz? Huber? NOPE, but they SURE as HELL were asking SPECIFICALLY about Durham. One would THINK if Durham was SO useless, they would HAPPILY let him stay obscure and in the background. HAPPY with the status quo. But they DIDN’T leave him in the background DID they, they were SCARED. Just as scared as when Barr said he was CONCERNED about POLITICAL spying OF the Obama admin ON Trump. WATCH the tape, LOOK at their faces as Barr said that, it was SHOCK and FEAR, they were NOT ready for that.

          In closing, IMHO Sundance is either A full of SHIT, and is doing this for clicks, and WILL keep on delaying his “big reveal” with excuses of “negotiations” with Barr, OR he is DIS info and is being USED by team Cabal to DEMORALIZE his followers ANMD discredit both Barr and Durham.

          I think it is the FORMER, because lets face it, IF Barr wanted to silence Sundance, and he was Cabal, as is the INFERENCE of Sundance, he could EASILY have him deplatformed, twitter does it ALL the time.

          IF he JEOPARDIZED a four year investigation and setup of the Cabal, a MAGA Barr could do the SAME, and have Sundance ENJOINED. It DOES happen, ask Assange.

          I told everyone that Sundance was playing a DANGEROUS game of credibility chicken, I was RIGHT, he WILL lose this one, AND his following. He has a self imposed ONE day deadline. See that is why it is so DANGEROUS to play credibility chicken, you either have to PUT up or SHUT up.

          I think he has NOTHING to actually PROVE of what he speaks, just like the rest of us, it is speculation, but he defiantly says it is NOT speculation, his Woodward moment, he has a “deep throat” and proof. My question is THIS, WHY would he even BOTHER to try and negotiate IF his motives were “pure” and as he claims, “want’s action” He would not NEED to try and portray himself AS the hero and in negotiations, he would REVEAL what he HAD, and either BECOME the hero, OR the GOAT.

          Ah, you see the game of credibility chicken laid BARE.

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    1. Sundance: “John Durham is a head fake…”

      So what? So what if it is?

      Does it not ever occur to Sd that this drama he is doing, is doing more harm than good?

      I have thought all along that the Indictments were probably being delayed until we had more Trump Judges on the bench.
      A prosecution…no matter how good it is…would be wasted if brought before a corrupt leftist judge!

      So are we there yet?
      I dunno.

      I think that AG Barr knows a lot more than Sd does.
      And yet Sd has taken it upon himself to try to ‘force’ Barr into doing something, to fit his…Sd’s…own timetable.

      The Prize is to win the reelection of PDJT…and also win back the House while keeping the Senate.

      Some Indictments would be great to see…
      But would they help us to Win the Prize?

      We need every seat we can get, in both the House and the Senate.

      What if the Indictments expose dirt on the R’s — and resulted in our losing the Senate?
      Can Sd guarantee that that won’t happen?

      Our President needs the help of an R-controlled congress, both houses.
      If delaying the Indictments until after the election will accomplish this…then I am all for the delay.

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      1. I took the requested 1-week delay as cover. IMO DOJ doesn’t really care if SD goes public. If they refused to give him enough reason to not publish, then they’re not serious about the need to delay.

        I’m not kidding – if a JOURNALIST gets a hold of a vague description of a legal process, and we’re not strong enough to withstand that, then something is VERY wrong with the legal process.

        My suspicion is that the real investigator is a swamp rat.

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        1. And how does that help us in winning the coming elections?

          We already *know* that “something is wrong with the legal process”.

          Focusing on that NOW makes it seem like it’s ‘Trump’s fault’.
          Or…Republican’s fault.

          Or that PDJT hasn’t been doing enough about it.
          Or that the R’s are dirty too, because they haven’t fixed it.

          Anything that makes voters disgusted, disheartened and disinclined to go vote, is Not Good.

          “Daddy should’ve already fixed this!”
          This 👆 sort of thing is not helpful right now.

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          1. You’re not seeing it. People are gonna get outraged at the way Trump has been slow-walked, once they see the big picture.

            People are mature enough now to understand that the R’s are bad, but the D’s are insane.

            This is very much like a real life tactical situation. Shoot the terrorist holding the gun. Hold your gun on the other one without a gun.

            We’re not stupid anymore. Show us the truth. People then demand action. Appropriate action. Some of the enemy are “Paperclipped” until after the election. Others get trials and sentences now. Stop being binary on Ds and Rs – start being strategic on rounding up all the chaff.

            Trump knows that some of these guys have been successfully cornered into playing along, but millions of EYES ON will help, IMO. Others are still causing trouble.

            No illusions. Illusions are deadly.

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            1. Illusions?

              I have no illusions on this, boss.
              Especially where Sd is concerned.
              *holds up mirror to Wolfie*
              And I am not being “binary” about the Ds and Rs.

              The primary elections are over.

              We are counting down to the big battle…the big game.
              And we have to fight it with the Team we have, not the team we *wish* we had.

              Our single focus now should be on Winning the Elections.

              I fail to see how this drama that Sd is generating, is going to help us do that.

              We have to look at it militarily.
              And military leaders…the good ones…know that when the War is upon you, you fight with the army that you have, not the one you wish you had.

              And you sure as hell don’t do anything to screw up the morale of your troops.

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              1. That’s the problem with our system. Many do not understand how it works. Take Miss Lindsey, the RINO. The time to get rid of him was his primary a few months ago. Did anyone worthy run against him then, was there a massive campaign to inform everyone that he’s a RINO and needs to be replaced? I dunno, probably not. But he won and now we’re stuck with him as the only R choice. Race is pretty tight I hear, so We MUST re-elect him to keep the Senate seat. Hold your nose SC and do it. But wait, here comes Some Dude to the rescue with a big BOMB, to tell the base it was all a lie and the R’s knew it. Pizzes off and totally disgusts the electorate. People will want him gone, but at this point it’s too late. Hold my nose again?, Hell NO! Joe, the base R voter cannot morally endorse the RINO after the all the recent lies he’s been fed, especially when he had his hopes so high for justice. Many will just not vote due to the stench. That furthers the advantage of Dems allowing them to gain the seat. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. That’s our damn system. And the politicians know it, and they keep getting away with their crap.

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              2. Actually, it’s my understanding that when it comes to certain seats, the candidate is picked by the national party and funded by the national party. I assume it’s a uniparty decision for optics, but party bigwigs have been known to call candidates before the primaries and tell them to drop out because they wouldn’t be funded anyway.

                Nasty, but then these people have all the charm of a starving alligator.

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        2. I agree that DOJ doesn’t care if SD goes public with whatever his sources are telling him, but I think what’s he’s been fed may well be a canary trap. This administration is really good with the canary traps.

          Whatever the real truth is is hermetically sealed somewhere.

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          1. Hope so. SD is the perfect one to rope into being the ‘bait’

            I was warned on Tony Heller’s blog that if I commented over at OT I would have to be very careful NOT to challenge SD or he would ban me. This was back in 2015 or so. I always felt like I was walking on egg shells and that is why I bailed when I found the Q-Tree. (I was not banned first.)

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            1. I got away with challenging him once…because I pointed out a flaw with his statement he could check very, very easily. He never again repeated the utterly absurd assertion that I had refuted, which is just as well because half of his audience would have believed it.

              The next time, I got the boot.

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              1. It’s called a Josephite marriage and I have friends who are in a common law Josephite marriage, essentially. He’s gay and lives with her, and has for at least ten years. It’s interesting as they’re desperately in love with each other.

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              2. And I imagine many people who agree to marry a foreigner for money, so that that foreigner can get a leg up immigrating, are in the same situation.


        3. See it makes NO sense. Barr could and WOULD simply silence SD via legal means IF he was about to “reveal” anything, jeopardizing a FOUR year investigation, ESPECIALLY at the END. Why would BARR negotiate with some random internet blogger? He WOULD NOT. Fox or one of the big papers or networks MAYBE, but not a blogger, not even Drudge.

          Barr, IF Sundance had the goods, would not NEED to negotiate, he COULD simply ask Sundance to withhold OR face obstruction of justice charges for jeopardizing a federal investigation. It is THAT big.

          Think Wolfe, HOW would a simple internet blogger receive such info, and NOT the Cabal, who are literally EVERYWHERE in the Govt, and yet THEY do not have it, UNLESS, Sundance is being USED by the Cabal as a dis info agent to discredit Barr and Durham BEFORE the reveal. Akom’s Razor.

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          1. However wrong or right he is, they’re just letting it happen. Now it’s possible that they may FORCE him to go to 1 week if they’re serious, in which case they come back to him and say “here is your NSL – 1 week”.

            IMO what he is doing WILL, however reframe expectations and assessments.

            I think the bad guys know whatever it is, and they would prefer for the full, true story to REMAIN HIDDEN and be out of the sheep’s minds. In fact, I think many of them, both “bad” and “informants”, have played along with things.

            The good guys are fine with things as they are, but are OK with “You have more than you know” slipping out to general understanding.

            Whatever. We will see the goods. I’m thinking strongly about keeping SD stuff outside the open threads.

            Fighting over Sundance will be restricted to the “War Room”. 😉

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            1. Whatever you decide to do about Sundance is fine with me. Please understand, however, that I am not “mad” or even upset. I am just watching what is playing out and commenting on what I think that is.

              I agree with you that if it were going to cause major damage, Barr could/would squash Sundance like a bug. That’s part of my reasoning that he doesn’t have anything real big. I’m willing to be wrong, otherwise I would keep my mouth shut and not predict a thing.

              Have you seen FG&C around anywhere? Is HE mad because we are questioning Sundance?

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              1. Have not seen FG&C lately, but I suspect that is more Flynn-related (as in he’s away more when certain Flynn stuff is cooking).

                I suspect SD’s stuff is “proof of validity of an interpretation”. Those tend to be nothingburgers in terms of discrete scandalous facts, but they get everybody stirred up. because they insinuate new hat colors and shift viewpoints. Clearly those mean little to Barr. But layer onto that SD’s discovery of an investigatory name that is likely only known to the deepest literal white hats and black hats, and the public is blind on, and – well – MORE STIR!!!

                Cankles knows the name. I want it, too!!!

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              2. Ah, I see. Those kinds of revelations (the ‘see, I was right, kind’) don’t really rev me up. I tend to be a wait and see kind before I get too riled. I’m still neutral on Sessions, for example, as I can imagine scenarios even now within which he is a white hat, and in on the game. So we’ll see what SD has, maybe, and then I’ll react, or not.

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            2. I’m late to the party (& to practically everything else)…but where is the “War Room”. I don’t have any serious animus to Sundance & CTH, though I was sadly but unsurprisingly disappointed to be banned after posting a Prayer Request on Angelle’s behalf at the Prayer Request thread. It is a wound to the Body of Christ for those of us who have interfaced Only Online & only access each other via the CTH Prayer Request Pages. If I read over there I can, of course, pray for the needs shared, but I cannot directly encourage others, nor can I ask for their prayer support. I think that they even banned Josiah from CTH & he mostly ever popped in on a rare occasion at the Prayer Request page to say “hi” & thanked people for praying for him…hmmm…

              I guess I might enjoy the spectator sport of people tearing into Sundance & CTH motives in a War Room, kind of like the gladiators in the arena. Bread & Circuses & all…

              CTH’s significant losses of the former Treepers who gather here in the Q-Tree are truly our great gain. We may be much smaller in number, but we are making up for that in creativity, heart, research, spirit, historicity, & logic. We are a bit like David’s Mighty Men of Valor! Kicking butt for the Kingdom & for America, Truth, Justice, Freedom, Righteousness, Godliness, Fervor, & Hope (to name a few).

              Wolf Pack Rules!!!


      2. I believe as you – some GOP are going to be caught in the net. Now whether they can weather the storm – don’t know – depends on what part they participated in. There are many threads to this – some more serious than others.

        I watched Levine interview Barr – there’s NO DOUBT in my mind that Barr is working on this, and has every intention of seeing it through. Nothing is on our time table, it’s on the DOJ, and whatever other ops are involved. For all we know some of this is military as well. National Security is a big thing.

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        1. President Trump didn’t renovate and EXPAND Gitmo just for the heck of it. However first he had to clean out the TRAITORS in our military & justice system.

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          1. BINGO, EVERYTHING Trump does has a PURPOSE. People thought he LOST DACA, yet he has REPEATEDLY in the last 2 months USED that ruling AGAINST the Cabal. People wondered IF his Dec 21 2017 EO would EVER be used, and it JUST was in Cleveland, they seized assets and a FREAKING skyscraper.

            EVERY move he makes is CAREFULLY planned out, now it might need to CHANGE slightly, contingencies, but the Cabal was not going to go lightly OR quietly, Trump KNOWS this.

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        2. Agreed, but JUSTICE matters, and IF GOP RINOS are caught, more the better, they are TRAITORS anyway, why would we WANT to save them, they CAN and WILL be REPLACED by MAGA, it happens ALL the time, and will continue to happen. That is WHY this ALL makes ZERO sense, except if you see my reply above to Aburgine, THAT IMHO is the answer.

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      3. Are we glad yet? That we got tossed out of a funky bar that got fussy about our personal beliefs?

        I am. Sure is turning into a ‘dark into light’ thing, isn’t it?

        And yeah, it is ALL about belief systems. I choose to believe that DJT meant what he said. He had to get the proper tools (people) in place to make it happen and I believe he knows how to choose his tools.

        DC is a disease. Don’t catch it.

        SomeDude has jumped the shark and is now merely an entertaining sideline, punctuated by occasional outbursts of his prior brilliance. Like what the weatherman calls ‘pop-up’ thunderstorms. Random, intense, and short-lived.

        Go to your room, SD, and amuse yourself.

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        1. BINGO. See that is the problem with “fame” it is ALWAYS what have you done LATELY, you cannot tread on the deeds of the past, you must ALWAYS one up yourself. Some CAN and DO, some struggle and do STUPID shit to “stay relevant”

          I found ALL I needed to know about SD when he banned me for DEFENDING the q movement, logically. Only insecure people BAN people permanently for dissenting OPINIONS. Narcissistic tendencies, dictators throughout history could NOT handle ANY dissent.

          Now, SD feels the NEED to be “important” again. A LOT of reporters have that. Woodward and Bernstein come to mind, One hit wonders who have been treading on a past accomplishment for DECADES, always looking for the NEXT deep throat, never to quite find it.

          IF SD has the info, stop FRIONTING, and post it, let the people sort it out. In other words, he is ALL IN, I just called. Time to SAHOW your hand, or fold.

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              1. Our own chess game always looks different as we move along, and as long as we don’t pretend it’s all upside or all downside, we can always win. And knowing that plans have to change, we adapt and overcome.

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              1. I don’t even want to speculate who to be pissed at, until I see the cards. I’m not pissed at Sessions no matter what realistic value “Trust Sessions” has. If he recused wisely but alone, or as a planned move with Trump, or stupidly because he was fooled by Tashina Gauhar working for Holder, I still think pretty much the same of Sessions. Very likely the same about Barr. I trust Barr, even if he is engaging in “institutional repair as opposed to destruction”, because that’s his call. I can generally see an SD viewpoint from a less blame-casting position, because I’m more comfortable with the realities of controlled opposition, IMO.

                I want to know what’s going on. I’ll figure out if I should be pissed at anybody but China and the Soviet Union later. 😉

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    2. John Durham is a head fake… Soon all will see.

      There is no John Durham investigation.

      Which wouldn’t bother me…if it were a cover for the real investigation.

      If it were a cover to cover NOTHING AT ALL being done (as I sometimes suspect) I will be VERY unhappy.

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        1. No, I am sure it will be BETTER than I envision! I trust Trump. TOO much is happening for it to be a feint, OR for it to be “less” than we all hope for. Time will tell, the cabal SURE are scared though. Do NOT forget that Durham is the first time I can recall this being a LEGIT criminal investigation WITH subpoenas AND a grand Jury. This is NOT a report, or a Congressional hearing, this will be a REAL honest to goodness TRIAL. THAT is why there is REAL fear. It IS palpable.

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    3. Re: “There is no John Durham investigation.”

      Trump: John Durham has uncovered ‘breathtaking’ evidence of spying
      August 05, 2020. FTA:

      U.S. Attorney John Durham has uncovered “breathtaking” evidence about “corrupt” origins of the Russia investigation, according to President Trump.

      He told Fox Business host Lou Dobbs on Tuesday that he believes that the federal prosecutor is conducting a criminal inquiry into the Russia investigation that will show members of the Obama administration maliciously targeted him and his campaign.

      “We caught them spying. Now it’s up to our attorney general. As you know, I wanted them to do it. I didn’t want to get overly involved. Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn’t, but I do hear it’s breathtaking what they’ve found,” Trump said. “That’s all I can say, breathtaking.”

      ^^^^So was Pres. Trump lying? Or is he being lied to, and duped?

      AG Barr has also commented about Durham’s investigation and its timeline of results. He has said he doesn’t feel constrained to wait until after the election to reveal results. So is Barr lying to us, or has he been duped?

      If — and it’s a big IF — there is anything to what SD says, then, as others have pointed out, it would reflect negatively on Pres. Trump, AG Barr, and Republicans, right before the election. That is, unless there is such a major coup within our government that the president and AG have been misled about the very existence of an investigation (or at least the intent of purported investigators). If that were the case, we would be in a crisis the likes of which this country has never seen.

      Alternatively, if the entire Durham investigation is a head fake for something more important and effective, to keep the Deep State distracted, then that fact should under no circumstance be revealed. To do so would be obstruction of justice, with far-reaching ramifications that could do irreversible damage.

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      1. We’ll see. I’ve pretty much decided I’m going to keep all this SD discussion in separate posts, outside the open thread. I sense trouble coming – a lot of potential for infighting – and want to isolate it. People who don’t want to give SD oxygen can stay away.

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        1. We’re watching a movie….

          Why make a big deal about Durham being a head fake or shiny red ball? The lesson learned from Mueller is that it’s all a show. What we are seeing and being fed along the lines of counsels and prosecutors is to keep the media occupied, and their sychophants content for the most part.

          What’s telling to me is the other side’s reaction to Durham. If he really is a shiny red ball, why is he making them other side nervous other than they have no idea what he has so they can plan for a counter?

          What if the whole purpose of the Durham narrative is to keep the rats off kilter in that way?

          We simply don’t know, and any reporting entity using unnamed sources, be it the NYT, Washington Compost, or anyone else, should be watched, but not necessarily taken as passing on valid information.

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  9. Ran across this interesting video about a little Island that India forbids anyone to visit.

    “What’s Hidden on the Forbidden North Sentinel Island?”

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  10. Article:

    Renowned European scientist: COVID-19 was engineered in China lab, effective vaccine ‘unlikely’

    …………..From the article: [emphasis mine]

    Professor Giuseppe Tritto, an internationally known expert in biotechnology and nanotechnology, says that the China Virus definitely wasn’t a freak of nature that happened to cross the species barrier from bat to man.

    It will not be possible for the Dr. Fauci’s of the world to dismiss Professor Giuseppe Tritto as a crank. Not only is he an internationally known expert in biotechnology and nanotechnology who has had a stellar academic career, but he is also the president of the World Academy of Biomedical Sciences and Technologies (WABT), an institution founded under the aegis of UNESCO in 1997.

    In other words, he is a man of considerable stature in the global scientific community. Equally important, one of the goals of WABT is to analyze the effect of biotechnologies—like genetic engineering—on humanity.

    In his new book, this world-class scientist does exactly that. And what he says is that the China Virus definitely wasn’t a freak of nature that happened to cross the species barrier from bat to man. It was genetically engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s P4 (high-containment) lab in a program supervised by the Chinese military.

    ………………….End quote, more at link.

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    1. While this article is interesting and adds to the picture of what we know about the origins of the China Virus, there’s room for questions and questioning. Read with a critical eye and watch dates and comments.

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      1. AND REMEMBER the Australia and the USA (fauXi) part. THEY WERE WORKING WITH THE CHINESE to create a bio-weapon! That is why Fauxi and Gates KNEW POTUS would have to deal with this mess!

        CAN YOU SAY TREASON!!! Now do you know why Q says they will not be able to walk the streets?


        Australian paper.
        Published: June 22, 2010
        Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry
        The authors are certainly interesting. Sure sound like Aussie names don’t they?

        1. State Key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), Wuhan, Hubei, China
        ◦ Yuxuan Hou
        ◦ , Cheng Peng
        ◦ , Yan Li
        ◦ , Zhenggang Han
        ◦  & Zhengli Shi <=== Head of Wuhan Lab!

        Univ of North Carolina:
        2015 Dec;21 “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence.”
        Two of the authors listed are from China, XY Ge and AGAIN, Zhengli Shi both of the Wuhan lab

        And LOOK who funded it! The National Institutes of Health under Fauci AND the State Key Program for Basic Research Grants from the Chinese Ministry of Science. Fauci not only funded the initial research but indicated interest in funding further research.

        When the USA shutdown the bio engineering of viruses he shifted the funding to the WUHAN!

        And YES it was BIOENGINEERING!
        From the paper:
        Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. “

        Key word ‘generated’

        to bring into existence; cause to be; produce.
        to create by a vital or natural process
        to produce by a chemical process.

        key word is ‘chimeric’

        composed of material (such as DNA or polypeptide) from more than one organism a chimeric gene … scientists have created so-called chimeric antibodies, using genetic engineering to fuse variable regions derived from mouse antibodies with a constant region derived from human antibodies.

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    2. I AGREE that Covid WAS engineered by China at Wuhan, I DISAGREE that there will be an effective vaccine. See, when you engineer a bio weapon, you had damn well BETTER HAVE the antidote, or you might just kill yourself along with the enemy.

      I am QUITE sure that China has an antidote, always has, that is WHY it never mad it to Beijing.

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    Hey Q-Treepers, I’m finally providing my “soon” update about Josiah, but frankly I’m a bit out of gas, so if you want greater/other details, please see my 8-13 update at the Caring Bridge site above…

    Last weekend we noticed J had more jaundice symptoms & we interfaced with the University of Michigan Hospital’s On-Call Doctor covering GI/Liver Transplant. He spoke w/ J’s doctor & then got back with us. No med changes until labs. We got labs on Tuesday.

    Yesterday I spoke with the Liver Transplant Nurse & Most of J’s Labs Have NOT Improved, some are stable-ish & at least one is Slightly better. The one measuring bile/jaundice was 12 before the hospital, 7 after at some point, & now is at 10.5, which is not good.

    They are adding a new med (which we’re having some challenges getting) Ursodiol to help empty the bile ducts, iirc, though per the pharmacy it’s often used for kidney stones. They want him taking 900 mg/day of it. He got 900 mg last night & has 300 mg for tomorrow morning. The pharmacy was supposed to get more in Wed but it didn’t come but they think it’ll come Thursday, so hopefully he’ll be able to get the full dosage today too.

    They want him to get labs again on Friday & go to twice a week labs for some period of time that likely depends on the liver numbers. They’re sending new “standing orders” so we don’t have hassles at the lab…My daughter is currently going on the clock as J’s “staff” & doing this activity with him, since the hospitalization.

    Depending on how the liver numbers look they might get another Liver Biopsy. It’s not clear if that is based on Friday’s labs or next week’s 1st labs probably on Tuesday, unless J decides to skip/go late to work & get labs Mon.

    At least the theoretical biopsy should be able to be done out-patient. If it turns out to be like what just happened at the hospital, a punch or core biopsy, then we know what to expect & can talk J through it. If it’s like his old liver biopsy, laparoscopic surgery, we can prepare him for that too….

    Everything is still relatively in flux. They may decide to pause the weaning down on the Prednisone. He started 40 mg/day this Tuesday & was due to go to 30 mg/day this coming Tuesday. They may also tweak his Prograf dosage depending on the Tacro (tacrolimum, Prograf generic) level, which wasn’t back as of our conversation…

    Josiah has been feeling some diminished energy & now wishes he weren’t going in to work this morning. I’m coaching him on making that decision when he wakes up…for when he thought about it last night he thought it was “too late” to call off his morning shift.

    He spent some time at his fiancee Rose’s house the other day. The prior time they’d seen him they were quite worried about how low-key he was (they’re used to seeing him in a more hyper state). They also thought he’d lost weight. His appetite has been a little lessor but he’s still eating reasonably well. Rose’s family laid hands on him to pray for him & they are continuing to lift him to the Throne of Grace!

    My husband Michael & I are supposed to go out for dinner with Rose’s parents tomorrow night. We’ve not yet met her dad, who is on the autism spectrum, but know her mom a bit from Special Olympics events. We’re supposed to get to know each other & potentially share our visions for our kids’ wedding & marriage.

    It is rather interesting times around here. The liver stuff is unsettling though Josiah seems relatively OK overall. The nurse said that people can feel completely fine & have significant liver problems.

    We’d really appreciate your ongoing prayers for Josiah’s complete healing, body, mind, soul, & spirit. Sometimes all the uncertainty is overwhelming to him & it is draining, to some degree, to the rest of us…

    Thank you for your prior prayers & if someone wouldn’t mind refreshing the prayer request for Josiah at the Prayer Wall at Marica’s (I think) I’d really appreciate it. My special son is a Massive Prayer Magnet & has been since even before he was born! God is good but these challenging times are tough to live through, they’re so much more enjoyable in the rear-view mirror (as we all know)!

    God Bless You ALL. In Jesus’ Love

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    1. God Bless you, Valerie.
      This must be exhausting for you.

      I pray that the Almighty grants Josiah the healing that he needs…and grants you the strength to keep fighting for him.

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          1. Giving my best shot. Last 3 weeks been hell on earth, but today is looking better. Thank God Almighty!

            Thx 4 the encouragement! So many people here I miss. And Valerie has been kind enough to try and relate some things for me here.

            Say hi to Gail Combs for me if you get a chance. Wolfie and any others too.


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    2. Please ensure to keep us apprised so that our thoughts and prayers can be well-focused.

      It wouldn’t likely to be of any benefit if we were praying for healing of Josiah’s broken leg, being that he doesn’t have one. If divine working be sought, it would be best focused on where necessary.

      God surely knows of my concern for Josiah’s bile/jaundice because I keep nagging Him about it. Be informed before prayer.

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      1. Thanks so much CTHulhu! This is a such a huge blessing. God has laid Josiah on a number of people’s hearts, like I said, even from the womb. One of my parents’ Prayer Group ladies used to consistently pray for “2 babies” when I was pregnant with the twins…

        God’s hand Is mightily on Josiah’s life & in a number of ways the Enemy of our souls has been out to destroy him any way he can, possibly from conception…

        Thank you so much for praying!!! God Bless YOU richly & restore to you whatever years that the cankerworm may have stolen or diminished…May you rise above to complete Victory in Jesus!

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  12. From Lou Dobbs’ show Wednesday night.

    Jim Jordan slams Biden/Harris for hiding what their real policy positions are, and asks:
    “Are we going to make America San Francisco?”

    Lou adds in the conversation:
    “This is a pandemic unleashed upon the world, by a Communist Chinese government, period! …It is more than a public health crisis.”

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  13. Heheh…it’s kinda funny that the power went out yesterday, for the ‘big event’ of Biden & Harris appearing together to launch their campaign.


    Joe Biden and Kamala Harris’ First Event Together Got Off to a Rocky Start

    …………..From the article:

    Presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s event with Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), his pick for vice president, was heavily delayed after the school they were using for the event in Wilmington, Delaware lost power on Wednesday.

    NBC reporter Mike Memoli told MSNBC the campaign had to use backup generators. […]

    CNN noted how the building air conditioning went out as well.

    President Trump’s reelection campaign took to Twitter to mock the Biden-Harris event’s poor start.


    …………….End of quote from article.

    In that video featured in the article…sorry it’s MSDNC…it shows the “crowd” outside.

    It’s only a few people!
    And they don’t look very fired up.

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    1. Yes…and it started in China, too…in Mongolia.
      China has been sealing off cities in Mongolia, as a result.

      The border between Russia & Mongolia is pretty much open territory.
      So there is a lot of cross-pollination, so to speak.

      Bubonic plague is a bacterial infection, though — not a virus.

      It can be easily cured with today’s antibiotics.

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        1. Bacteria can be genetically engineered to do all sorts of things.

          But if I understand the basics of Antibiotics correctly…a bacterial infection can still be killed with an antibiotic, even if it was engineered.

          It’s just a matter of finding the antibiotic that will do the job.

          It might take dosing with 2 or three at a time…and adding others through the course of it.
          But I think that the basic nature of a bacterium, is such that it can be killed with antibiotics.

          Now, I am not a bacteriologist or a doctor.
          So I could be wrong.

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          1. Think like a ChiCom. They do all the stuff that you’re not supposed to do. Every rule we came up with for mankind’s safety, they break.

            Resistance is a PROBLEM, but for a weapon, resistance to everything but a drug YOU HAVE and the other side doesn’t is a “good thing” if you’re an Evil ChiCom.

            People, sadly, do not understand what is *POSSIBLE*, because they don’t understand how to read for LIMITS as opposed to WHAT IS NOW.

            Bacteria that are resistant to all but one particular antibiotic are a reality now.

            What can one do with that reality?

            THINK LIKE A CHICOM.

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            1. AND China MAKES MEDICINE for the USA.

              Also we in the USA ALREADY HAVE Bubonic plague in the parks in Californicate.

              (I think at this point Putin has had enough of China and will be interested in an alliance with POTUS.)

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          2. You don’t understand correctly. Antibiotic resistance is just another trait. I could have a group of grad students make a penicillin-resistant beer-fermenting yeast.

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              1. It would be irresponsible to do so, especially in context of fermenting yeast….but it is possible and we’ll see it. That’s what “Gain of Function” (banned in the US) is all about.

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            1. The POINT of a bioweapon is to kill the enemy, it would be STUPID itf THEY did not ALREADY have 100% THE antidote for THEIR weapon. They would very likely kill themselves as well as the enemy.

              All WE would need do is FIND and either duplicate or TAKE, by force if necessary, THEIR antidote.

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      1. It looks to me like you might be confusing two different Mongolias.

        “Outer Mongolia” is the independent country of Mongolia, which has a border with Russia. During the Soviet era, it was a satellite of the USSR. Today it’s independent and (last I heard at least) pursuing capitalism.

        “Inner Mongolia” is part of China, it’s along the southern border of (Outer) Mongolia, and has no border with Russia. (If you look closely at Chinese money, some of the inscriptions are in the traditional Mongolian script (vertical lines with curlicues and squiggles coming off of them); part of the PRC’s “schtick” is that they are a union of multiple “peoples” and Mongolians are one of them.

        China is probably “sealing off cities” in Inner Mongolia, while the border between Russia and Mongolia you reference, is the “other” Mongolia. (The independent Mongolia adopted the Cyrillic script for Mongolian, sometime while they were a satellite state.)

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        1. Ahh, that I did not know. I do know that we didn’t have a flea issue in these parts until the wild rabbits moved in. Now, the dogs have to be on the meds year round or it gets out of control, and Ying is allergic to fleas. That was a mess last year.

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              1. Yes, it’s the fleas on the rodents that are the real reservoir.

                After they kill the rodents with the plague they start looking for something else to live on, e.g., certain great apes with a deficit of body hair (usually, anyway).

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              2. Hey! Thanks for that, DP! I make my own blend of laundry detergent which includes borax (love that 20 mule team) and add pine sol to every wash. Live in the mountains with deer and chipmunks galore. Rarely see rabbits. I’m glad to know I’m doing good by my concoction!

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  14. Nothing good can come from 5 Eyes Commie Collusion!

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    1. I would think this affects how the U.S. will interact with New Zealand. China trying to get intelligence through Five Eyes members is a serious issue.

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      1. Ever since DJT went to Saudi Arabia and laid his hands on The Orb (along with several other hands), I have said that the traditional agencies (CIA, MI6, etc.) were obsolete and left in place for uncritical covert actions. The real serious covert actions and info comes from The Orb network. There is no cross-pollination between the Orb and Five Eyes.

        I guess this is NZ throwing a typical hissy fit over not being tipped off to various things in advance. After awhile, even dumbasses realize nobody is including them in any plans any more.

        NZ, we are so over you. Enjoy your soyboy feminazi society. BTW, how are those muzzie ass-kissing lessons going?

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        1. The old joke was, “New Zealand: where men are men and the women are sheep”.

          Now it seems that in New Zealand, EVERYONE is a sheep. Sheeple.

          Sad. Used to be a great place, from what I’ve heard…

          (Isn’t there someone who posts here sometimes (Shebythesea?) from NZ? )…

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    2. After turning in their weapons recently. Very convenient.
      BTW did we ever figure out what kind of numbers they had for that. Last we posted it didn’t sound like many were giving them up but our reporting was early and I don’t believe we did a follow up.

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      1. Thanks, Wolf. I read something you (I think it was you) referenced at CTH a while back that made it sound like he was sort of recruiting an army to get his info out. I was wondering if he was calling them all “Sundance” now. Like I’m Negin in TWD… 😦

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            1. Flep posted the Examiner article in the body of his News Roundup. It’s a travesty what the left-leaning, profit-mongering politicians, drug companies and medical community are doing – actually killing patients for profit and political power.

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      1. That’s the very first thing I learned about Didier Raoult, months ago. He’s the #1 listing on expertscape. Fauci, on the other hand, is everything you listed – and soulless.. That man has been empty for a long, long time.

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      2. What was the line that Billy Bob Thornton uttered in “Armageddon” “I don’t think you want to trust the fate of the planet on math from someone that got a c minus in astrophysics.”

        Why are WE trusting the #38 guy, one who btw has a record of FAILURE, on the pandemic of the 21 century? AH, you see the point.

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  15. Inappropriate racist humor warning 😉

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            1. Along those lines, Dorothy Parker made the following reply in a word game when given the word horticulture: “You can lead a horticulture, but you can’t make her think”…

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  16. Sharing FYI, before this disappears…haven’t read it yet…

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    1. I decided to finally read this thread. Remember, I’m a Q Agnostic…this tweets were “interesting”…thoughts?

      Here’s a threadreader for all of this interesting thread…

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      1. & here’s an interesting graphic from the replies…clues to Q?

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      2. Then there is this fun perspective… 😉

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      1. That tweeter was extremely confident that pretty much All the bad “actors” are carrying out a script–like the war is already won & it’s just slowly being played out in stages, on the world stage/screen. That’s just not really likely that there is so much coordination & collaboration with so many players across systems & nations. It’s a nice “unifying” theory that seems to wrap up loose ends, at least for some 🙂


    2. OK, this is the second time you have posted about this dreck. Hopefully it’s the last.

      Professional Truth Sniffer tip: use of more than 3 exclamation points strongly indicates BS.

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        1. You posted a tweet with a dozen exclamation marks in the self-praising sentence? Well, color me slightly shocked.

          BTW, the use of The Odyssey as a plot pattern is not that unique. I vaguely remember a Lit class I had in high school discussing the theory that there are only a few classic arrangements in music and literature works, while there are lots of variations on the themes.

          Let’s just say that I might have sent that link to a few email friends as an amusement. I would not send it to serious Q-pers. Don’t want to waste their time.

          And don’t bother telling me that my opinion doesn’t rule. I already know that and I love all of us here regardless of agreement.

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      1. Sorry for offending you. I hadn’t read the thread when I shared it here, but was surprised that twit world was letting it stand since it was overtly discussing “Q”. Given this is the “Q Tree” I figured the topic was fair game for discussion. I wasn’t promoting it nor saying that I bought into it…

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  17. Moar Hopeful indications…

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    1. Another patriotic plantation prison break!

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    2. Someone who’s come out of the darkness into the light want to interface with this guy?

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        1. Well given the thousands of replies to that guy’s tweet it’s likely that any attempt to engage him would get lost in the fog. He just seemed to be on the cusp of taking a mini-red pill, which is interesting, & perhaps hopeful, at least to me 🙂


          1. He still sounds like he’s got the liberal delusions about racism, unfortunately. And about Trump being a rapist/crook.

            I refused to join his organization because it was unable to separate atheism from leftism in its activism; not every atheist is a fucktard who thinks we need socialized medicine NOW, dammit, or that America is a totally racist/sexist enterprise.

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    1. At some point don’t you think that the topic should be addressed? Only one type of citizenship does not rely on legislation. Born here of two citizen parents. Otherwise anchor babies are eligible. Or FLOTUS.

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      1. Yes! I followed that Natural Born Citizenship discussion intensively & still consider aka Obama to be The Usurper. It Has to be deliberate destruction of the Constitutional Republic by TPTB because his opponents McCain & Romney both had eligibility issues to some degree as well. So did Cruz, which is why I struggled during the 2016 Primaries in supporting him, feeling like it was hypocritical after all my railing against BHO’s seemingly lack of NBC status…

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        1. Yes, so now we’ve gone from one parent not being a citizen – plus chances are he was born in Kenya . . . to neither parent being a citizen. We’re at the point that we either have to scrap the issue or define and enforce it. Law of Nations was the basis of the definition. With regard to Cruz, I could never trust or support a guy that was down at the southern border giving out soccer balls and teddy bears in the summer of 2014, with Glenn Beck.

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    1. D.U.M.B. is an acronym for Deep Underground Military Base.

      Not all underground complexes are DUMBs.
      Bad guys have them…and some rich people have them too.

      So we don’t know if that footage is showing the destruction of a DUMB or some other sort of underground structure…if at all.

      But…Nope, that doesn’t look normal.
      I wonder if there was an explosion at first?

      There sure have been a lot of big fires and explosions lately.
      They are always explained away…but still, it’s hard not to wonder if something else is going on.

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      1. Yes suspecting & Knowing what is Actually going on are not exactly the same thing. Thanks for your clarification…I was speculating on Something underground & assumed DUMB when other possibilities should also be contemplated…

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      2. Do not forget the earthquakes in Sparta NC

        Sparta, NC to Washington, DC is 260 miles or 216 by air.

        It took some digging but there is a PRIVATE airport in Sparta

        Maxwell Airport (Run way is turf Dimension: 1300 x 60 ft / 396.2 x 18.3 m)


        Cessna Skylane aircraft can fly with a maximum cruise speed of 167m / h and have a maximum range of up to 915 nm (1053 miles) The Cessna 182 Skylane is an American four-seat, single-engined light airplane, built by Cessna of Wichita, Kansas. It has the option of adding two child seats, installed in the baggage area….

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        1. N529JK landed at one of those decommissioned private airports in Lehigh County PA, just last month. (Since you mentioned the Cessna Skylane 👍🏻)

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        2. This takes me back to my single days. I used to live in an apartment complex that housed A Lot of students from Spartan School of Aeronautics (didn’t one of the 9/11 hijackers study there?), near/in Tulsa, OK. Anyway I befriend some of those guys & got on some Cessna 152 & 172 flights/joyrides occasionally. I’d always wanted to learn how to fly so was thrilled when one of those guys let me do some of the taxiing on the ground & some very low key maneuvers in the air.

          One of my friends had also learned to fly helicopters. He had hopes of becoming a missionary bush pilot. He actually took me up in his first “solo” helicopter flight after getting that certification/license. Fun times!


  18. I don’t know how Catholic voters will react, but they do have a right to know her record.



    Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the problem Sen. Kamala Harris will have with Catholics:

    Once Catholic voters learn more about Kamala Harris’ positions on an array of moral issues, Joe Biden’s vice presidential pick will have a hard time winning them over

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  19. The flooding in China is going on, with heavy rains continuing to dump on already saturated areas.
    Three Gorges Dam is still holding, so far.


    Indo-Pacific News
    The mega floods in #China continue unabated

    This is the city of #Chengdu on August 13th.
    Population of over 11 million. Via @jenniferatntd

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  20. Spotted this yesterday and meant to post it, but got side-tracked.

    What’s interesting about this is…that a small country might dare to Nullify a debt to China.

    Indo-Pacific News
    Aug 12
    Debt-trap diplomacy: PNG wants #Huawei loan cancelled

    Papua New Guinea should not have to repay a $53 million loan to China, after being sold a faulty Huawei data centre that exposed its government files to being stolen.

    Text of two more tweets in this short thread:

    “If you buy something from a shop and it does not work, you return it & get your money back”.

    “We are struggling to repay our other debts, why should we repay this loan?”

    “It barely works,” Mr Masiu said. “It’s a failed investment. We may just have to shut it down.”

    “It is assessed with high confidence that data flows could be easily intercepted,” the 2019 report said. “Remote access would not be detected by security settings.”
    The report was commissioned by the National Cyber Security Centre of PNG, which is funded by Australia.

    ………………….End of text.

    As the world continues to realize the extent of the ChiComs’ treachery…there may be others who will want to nullify their debts to China, too, as compensation.

    If one country gets away with it…then that will embolden others to do it as well.

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    1. As Soon as POTUS holds Chyna’s feet to the fire for DEVELOPING AND RELEASING the CCP CORONA Crud, NO ONE will pay debts to China.

      THINK FAUXI!!! He KNOWS and now his name is KNOWN throughout the USA.

      What happens when people learn the TRUTH?

      What happens when people WAKE UP?

      They will not be able to walk down the street.


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    2. As Slow Joe would say, “This is a big fucking deal.”

      Side note: I’ve devised a new Tom Swifty.

      “[xxxxxx]”, Biden sniffed at his detractors with a shrug.

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      1. Tom Swifties are traditionally a humorous adverb. E.g. — “Biden sniffily dismissed questions about his physical interactions with women.” “Kamala Harris reacted huffily when questioned about prior marijuana use.”

        They were obviously contrived and an “in-joke” between the author and the reader.

        I was a big reader of the “Tom Swift, jr.” series in the 60s and early 70s. And, thence, into Heinlein juveniles….and soon after, S-F.

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  21. 11-12 year old boy is at a deli counter not wearing a mask, but he is wearing a MAGA hat. Woman asks him nicely if he’d put his mask on. He takes off the hat and shakes loose what appears to be a rubber Trump mask that is attached to the inside of the hat and redawns the hat and now mask too. The woman says Thank you.

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    1. My mistake, looks like a bakery counter. How did I miss all those cakes. Btw, kid’s Trump mask is open in the back so he was able to slip it on easily with just the one hand that was holding the hat.

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  22. About those Mystery Seeds from China…


    USDA finds noxious weeds, bug larva in unsolicited seeds from China

    ……………From the article: [emphasis mine]

    ORLANDO, Fla., Aug. 13 (UPI) — The U.S. Department of Agriculture has discovered noxious weeds and a bug larva in mystery seeds that were sent unsolicited from China to thousands of residents across the United States.

    The weeds and the bug already are found in this country, although they are considered undesirable.

    The weeds can displace native plants and deplete nutrients for native plants. The bug larva was a type of leaf beetle that consumes and destroys leaves of native plants, agriculture officials said. […]

    “We have received more than 9,000 emails from private citizens across the country who report receiving unsolicited seeds, and we have collected 925 packages,” Osama El-Lissy, the USDA’s deputy administrator for plant protection and quarantine, said Wednesday in department audio recordings.

    Most of the seeds examined were common garden seeds, like marigolds and herbs. The weeds were a variety of water spinach and dodder, a stringy vine that can choke out large native plants and even large areas of native woodland, the USDA said.

    The agency said it continues to examine Chinese seeds at plant inspection stations situated in every state, where any problems would be contained. Eventually, the seeds will be incinerated.

    Agriculture officials are treating the seeds so carefully because biologists have warned that any of them might carry invasive pests, fungus or even plant viruses that could devastate entire crops.

    ………………End quote, more at link.

    They’ve gotten 9,000 reports from people who have received these mystery packets…
    And they have only examined 925 of them so far?

    Uh yeah…I don’t think this was some innocent “ooops” from China.

    I give this the full side-eye:

    This ‘globalism’ thing has made us let our guard down.

    We used to quarantine all shipments from other countries, didn’t we?

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  23. Indo-Pacific News
    Trio Of B-2 Stealth Bombers Deploy To The Remote Island Outpost Of #DiegoGarcia

    Forward deploying the B-2s to the Indian Ocean puts them well within reach of hotspots in the Middle East and Asia.

    Text of two more tweets in this short thread:

    The USAF last deployed B-2s to Diego Garcia in March 2016 amid heightened security concerns in the South China Sea. “Recent events demonstrate the continued need to provide consistent & credible air power throughout the Indo-Asia-Pacific region”: Air Force General Lori Robinson.

    Diego Garcia is one of just a handful of locations that are equipped to accommodate B-2s & features 4 climate-controlled clamshell hangars known as B-2 Shelter Systems (BS22s) for the stealth bombers. The base is a hub for long-range bomber missions to the Middle East and Asia.

    …………………End text.

    Diego Garcia?

    I found this video that tells about it:

    “Why Diego Garcia Is America’s Most Controversial Military Base”

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  24. Putting this here before I lose track of it. This is interesting, Sundance on Twitter, drunk apparently (seriously). Monday is the 17th.


    Doesn’t work like that. I said will be reveled to media Friday and Public Saturday. That person asked for more time with proposal for next Tuesday.

    I said no. Friday it is… then Saturday. Deal with it.
    Quote Tweet
    Medium star
    Medium star
    Medium star
    – The Koolaid Provider
    · 4h

    Replying to @TheLastRefuge2
    So what then? You threatened to out a non existent investigator by friday if no progress was made, received a call frm someone, now say there is no durham case?

    Ok, so start releasing your phase 2 then. Let it rip
    2:45 AM · Aug 13, 2020·Twitter Web App

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