2020·08·08 KMAG Daily Thread

Shitstorm Saturday!

Trump advancing (not retreating) to a forward command post. He says we won’t be seeing him for a while. Whirlpool. And so on, covered thoroughly by you all on Friday.

I dunno, I’ve been disappointed so many times in the past…but this might really be IT.

You all have been analyzing and speculating on this quite a bit, so I’ll just add an editorial statement:

Bring it on!!! We’re not tired of winning. Far from it:

We haven’t even begun to win!

And so we could well, this very weekend and upcoming week, begin to see THIS last big item finally be addressed.

Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People...Our campaign represents a true existential threat, like they’ve never seen before.

Then-Candidate Donald J. Trump

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. The gun is always loaded.
4a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
5. Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
6. Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
7. Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Mandatory Coin

Now it wouldn’t be one of my posts without a coin, would it?

But first I’m going to address the current situation with precious metals–the best basis ever found for real money. Well, maybe I will, somewhere in the ramble you’re about to read or skip.

I am involved in coin collecting, and there is a branch of the hobby that concerns itself with “primitive” money, except that’s not PC, so it’s now called other things, including “traditional” money. I’m talking about things people used for money before coins were invented (or before they had become aware of coins), such as cowrie shells, beads, obsidian, wampum, elephant tails (really!), Yapstones, and on and on.

Before there was money there was barter. I could trade you two chickens that I had raised for an arrowhead that you had made. The problem was getting both you and me to agree that an arrowhead was worth two chickens. Actually, it had to be worth less than two chickens to you (or you’d not want to give up your arrowhead for two chickens) and more than two chickens to me (or I’d not want to give up my chickens for an arrowhead).

What if we both think it’s more appropriate to trade one and a half chickens for an arrowhead? So basically a chicken is worth about 2/3rds of an arrowhead?

Then we’re stuck, because two thirds of a physical arrowhead isn’t worth a damn thing to anyone, neither is half a chicken to you if you want to use it for laying eggs, and even if you want to eat it, you’re going to have to eat that half a chicken tonight, and I’ll have to eat my half tonight too, rather than feeding it until next week.

If there were something we could use to represent half a chicken, I could pay you a chicken and that item, and we’d be square. You could come back to me later–next week, a month from now, and cash in two of those tokens for half a chicken each, and get a whole chicken.

That’s the function money serves. And, honestly, anything that serves that function is money. Gold and silver in pre-sized lumps can do it. Gold and silver not in convenient standard lumps can do it too. A “talent” of gold, or silver, in the Bible is not a coin–coins hadn’t been invented yet by the time of the Old Testament–but a talent was roughly seventy pounds, so the Bible was talking about a very substantial weight of gold or silver. But so can cowrie shells and wampum under the right circumstances. Our colonial forebears even resorted to using tobacco leaves since Mama England didn’t want us to have coins. And of course that elaborately printed paper in our wallets, backed by nothing other than the willingness of the government to accept it as a tax payment, is also money.

Here’s a definition of money, from one of those books on primitive traditional money (improving on a definition put forth by none other than Alan Greenspan): Anything used to make a payment that the recipient trusts can be reused to make another payment.

Using this, you may think you paid an arrowhead for two chickens, but if I am thinking I can’t buy something with this arrowhead, but I accepted it because I think I will find it useful, then the arrowhead is not money.

But then the Scythians, in the seventh to fifth century BCE, seem to have actually used arrowheads for money. Other cultures used ax heads, both stone and metal.

Metal works well as money, because it can be broken up into smaller and smaller pieces, which can be readily valuated (by weighing them). It will last a long time in storage, and it can’t just be produced without limit, especially if it’s gold, silver, or copper (or in ancient times…tin–very scarce, available in only a few places far from civilization, and absolutely essential to make bronze). And metals have uses in their own right, so they are valuable on their own. So it tends to hold its value.

The kingdom of Lydia took the next step at about the time Scythians were making arrowheads, making standardized metal lumps and stamping them; people could be assured that those lumps had a specific amount of gold and silver in them because they had the king’s emblem on them, and were interchangeable. That was the birth of coinage and modern money that came in denominations.

And those first coins were made of a mixture of gold and silver (electrum), though later on there were gold issues, and silver issues.

The reverse isn’t a real design, it’s actually an inset of a punch, used to hold the silver in place while it was being struck. Some of the Greek city states had the same sort of thing on their coinage.
MUCH larger than actual size.

The Lydian coins are available today, but it was Athens in the 400s BCE that really took this and ran with it, producing drachm coinage, most famously the four drachma piece, the tetradrachm. (Collectors of ancient money in the US pronounce drachm “dram” but it’s likely more like drakh-m, where the kh is like the ch in Bach. But we’re lazy and don’t pronounce the ch.)

Athens became incredibly rich as a result of owning a silver mine in Attica, and also collecting tribute from the Athenian League. This started out as a defensive alliance against the Persians–member city-states could contribute either ships (with crews) or money for their upkeep. But it turned into an empire when those ships were turned against city states that decided to quit paying.

A stunning example of an Athenian tetradrachm. I know (from having seen ones made with Athena’s head off center) that the die for the obverse includes a large crest on her helmet. The reverse is Athena also, in the form of an owl. The letters to the right read A TH E, for Athens, or perhaps for Athena.

Centuries passed, empires rose and fell, and during the Renaissance, bankers started accumulating vast amounts of coinage in silver (heavy) and gold (very heavy, more so than lead). They’d have to make payments to each other, and have to ship heavy, valuable crates of coins at great expense and risk, but…if they trusted each other, they could do things on paper. The paper came to represent the coins, in particular the metal in the coins, and this eventually developed into paper money. Which, if honest, can be good stuff…silver certificates being one example of an honest paper money.

The Chinese actually had paper money first…on arrival in China, you had to deposit your silver, you got a paper certificate that stood for the silver, and could be spent as though it were silver. You could get your silver back, when you left China. The system worked well, as long as you could trust the government not to just print up certificates in excess of the silver. And that is a hazard with bank notes (actually issued by banks) too, where they are supposed to be backed by something valuable (assets of the bank, be they coinage or loans), but might not be.

The United States, in the days of the gold standard, had paper money and actual coins (known as “specie”); before 1862 the paper money was issued and backed (or not!) by banks, after 1862, it was a combination of banks (heavily supervised and regulated) and the US government. As for the money–a gold coin was unadulterated money. Because a certain weight of gold was by definition a dollar. At the mint, even before the design had been stamped on, say, a $5 gold piece, it wasn’t just worth five dollars, it was five dollars. Great care was taken to ensure the proper weight of each individual piece. A room full of workers (women, because they were believed to have better attention to detail) would handle each blank coin, weigh it, and spin the edge against a file if it was overweight, or reject it if it were underweight–back to the melting pot. They got to be so good they could tell if the piece were over or underweight before they weighed it. Some tolerance was allowed–a little extra or a little under was OK, the government would treat it as being exact. Bags of coins were adjusted with the slightly under or overweight finished coins so the bag would average out precisely (and too much correction needed would condemn the whole bag). The precision of the scales that had to weigh heavy bags of coins was remarkable, the weight of a single scrap of paper could throw them off. (Very precise mechanical engineering and craftsmanship like this is becoming a lost art.)

The silver in, say, a dime, wasn’t worth as much as ten cents; it didn’t become ten cents until it was stamped. (After 1853, that is.)

Which finally, and most circuitously, brings me to the price of gold.

Between 1834 and 1933 the gold coinage was such that a troy ounce of gold either equaled (before we went on a full gold standard) or was $20.67. And a couple of days ago, when I looked at the price of gold, it was $2067.10 per ounce…a hundred times higher.

I’ve heard in the past, statements that gold holds its value, with the implication that gold is of constant value.

Bullshit. At least with regard to the constant part.

It’s just as subject to supply and demand as eggs, beef, cars, and beanie babies. In 1979-1980, gold skyrocketed from the low $300s to $850 in a few weeks, and most of that happening in the last few days (it went up sixty bucks in one day), and then it dropped again, just about as quickly as it had gone up.

Are you going to tell me that what was happening was that the dollar was plummeting (which I could and did believe)…but then it turned around and zoomed back upwards? Come on, this was the Carter administration; the dollar was in no way capable of skyrocketing under his (mis)management!

So no, gold is not of constant value, but it will always have great value, and the long-term average is fairly–though not perfectly–stable. A $20 gold piece would buy you a nice suit in the 1920s. Today, it still will, though today you’d certainly get change.

And even in the days of the gold standard, of specie being regarded as “real” money, gold could rise and fall, and so could silver, and they could rise and fall relative to each other. In the 1700s silver slipped from being 1/14th as valuable as gold, to 1/15; it slipped some more during the early 1800s and messed up our money supply; we had to remove some gold from the gold coinage in 1834 to compensate. Then gold was found in California, and it dropped relative to silver, silver started disappearing from commerce…until in 1853 we lessened the weight of silver coins (and from that point forward, silver coinage became worth less than face value, and was strictly controlled in quantity, since it was freely exchangeable for gold, which was worth its face value). Not a month ago, there was a day when it took 100 ounces of silver to equal an ounce of gold; and I remember that happening a couple of times in the late 90s too. Silver lately has gone up faster than gold, so it’s worth well over 1/100th as much as gold today. In fact, right now: Gold 2,017.70 and silver 27.58, ratio 73.158+ to 1. (Imagine if we had a bimetallic standard this last month, what chaos there would be as people dumped their gold dollars for silver dollars, or vice versa; you’d be going into shops and be offered a discount for paying in gold instead of silver, or vice versa, depending.)

In any case, sometimes people trying to buy some gold buy it in the form of old $20 gold pieces. These contain almost an ounce of gold. Some of them are common enough (especially in slightly circulated condition) that their price is basically today’s price of gold plus a small constant. Nevertheless, there are people who collect them, and they’re seeing the prices go up and up, not because they’re becoming rare, but because gold is becoming pricier.

Of course some gold coins are genuine rarities (or in top condition) and will sell for quite a bit more than the gold that’s in them–those prices aren’t affected much by the price of gold.

If memory serves, I’ve shown you both of the major designs of $20 gold pieces in the past. But why not a repeat? (You got your coin of the week twice over with the stater and the tetradrachm.)

Liberty Head, 1850-1907. The reverse shield style changed in 1866 when “In God We Trust” was placed within the circle of stars. Now I said 1850, but this is an 1849. This is the one and only 1849, produced as a “proof of concept” rather than for issue, and it’s now in the Smithsonian.
The St. Gaudens (named so because the artist who did the design was Augustus St. Gaudens, a very famous sculptor from the end of the era when fine art was still…art. (Not the greatest picture ever, but at least it is not subject to copyright issues.) In 1908 “In God We Trust” was added above the sun on the reverse. Also, in 1907 the first few thousand of these were struck in a much higher relief, a variant regularly called America’s Most Beautiful Coin.

OK…well, I’m not done yet. You’ll get a third coin today, in honor of Shitstorm Saturday.

What about platinum?

You can buy, today, platinum “eagles” in ounce, half ounce, quarter ounce, and tenth ounce sizes, just as you can with gold. This is what we call non-circulating legal tender (NCLT) because even though there’s a face value and the coin is legal tender, you’d have to be an idiot to spend an ounce of gold or platinum at the face value given on the coins ($50 and $100, respectively). There’s generally very little collector value in such coins; their value is tied to their content, much like in the good old days.

In the past, gold and silver were used as money, straight across, at face value, close to intrinsic or “melt” value. Was platinum ever used as money?

The answer, just barely, is “Yes.”

Platinum wasn’t even known to Europeans until close to 1700, when it was found during gold panning on the Rio del Pinto in South America. Gold panning exploits the density of gold to separate it from the other bits of sand in stream beds. Platinum, being slightly denser than gold, even, would also pan out, and since no one really understood what it was, and no one considered it valuable, the platinum particles had to be painstakingly separated from the gold. It was a nuisance! It was called “Pinto silver” for a while, and even today the name “platinum,” or especially the slightly older “platina” is cognate with “plata”–silver in Spanish.

(No one went screaming “Platinum! I’m rich!!!” It was more like “What the hell is this caca blanca doing in my oro?”)

Eventually some industrial uses–like sulfuric acid boiler tanks–were found for the stuff, even though we couldn’t build a furnace to melt it, and it became more valuable than silver, and less so than gold. [Any other metal besides gold would dissolve in the acid, gold was way too expensive and soft, and glass tended to shatter under pressure, which when dealing with sulfuric acid was really, really bad–shards of glass flying everywhere, with boiling sulfuric acid spraying with it to boot.]

Another deposit was discovered in the Ural mountains in Russia. Peasants had been finding the nuggets for years and using them for shot (!!!), blasting what today would be hundreds of dollars’ worth of platinum into waterfowl for dinner. Miners moved in, and started producing the metal, as well as the other allied platinum-group metals (rhodium, palladium, osmium, and iridium–ruthenium had not been discovered yet).

Russia’s monetary system was a bit of a mess. There were paper rubles, backed by the full faith and credit of the Tsar’s government…but they traded at four paper rubles to the silver ruble. In 1826, Nicholas I, newly on the throne, decided to do something about this. Part of this was to temporarily produce high denomination silver, but a silver five ruble piece would be unwieldy. But the Demidov family, a powerful family, owned the platinum mines, platinum was worth a bit more than silver so…the three ruble platinum coin was born. It was the size of a quarter ruble piece…but weighed twice as much. It was made out of platinum sponge (we still couldn’t melt the stuff)–in itself the coin is a technical acheivement. They tended to look kind of ugly because of it being sponge platinum…but some DID circulate.

Just a bit smaller than a quarter–and weighed almost as much as a half dollar.
The inscription reads (in the center) “3 rubles in silver” and around the edge, “2 zol. 41 dol. [a weight in traditional Russian units] of pure Urals platinum”
(It wasn’t. Pure, I mean–plenty of iron and iridium and since it was sponge the coin was probably about 5 percent air, too.)

The coins were guaranteed convertible into silver at face value, so they could take the place of paper money in “small” denominations (a ruble was a lot of money back then).

The same search I used to find this also showed images of ones that are worn and have undoubtedly been used in commerce. So yes, these DID circulate, a bit.

That coin appeared in 1828. It saw just enough use to encourage the Russian government to come out with a six ruble piece in 1829 and a 12 ruble piece in 1830, but those never got any traction. Russia would send them out to settle trade accounts and eventually get them right back again, so they just piled up in the treasury. (I guess you could say that outside of Russia, they were not money.)

The whole series was discontinued in 1845. Paper money was now on par with silver, so there was no need for these coins–and besides, they contained somewhat less than their face value in platinum, so they were targets for counterfeiters. The coins in the treasury were then sold for scrap, in fact the entire world demand for platinum was satisfied for years by these scrapped coins. Today, the 6 and 12 ruble pieces are all rarities, some excruciatingly so. Three ruble coins are expensive, but at least they’re much less than half as expensive as the six ruble pieces.

Platinum itself was eventually found to have many, many better uses than sulfuric acid boilers, and industrial demand made it more valuable, ounce per ounce, than gold by the early 20th century–at which point, then people wanted it for jewelry. Even today, it’s rarer. All the platinum ever mined would fit in a 26 foot cube–my house could handle it–while all the gold ever mined would need a 60 foot cube. But as of today, it’s less valuable. Supply and demand.

[End note: As much as counterfeiters are loathed, they did function back then to keep governments honest about the money they issued. Issue an undervalued coin, and it will be counterfeited. If it’s actually worth what it says its worth in precious metal, the counterfeiters have no reason to bother–unless they can fake the metal itself, which they did try to do…sometimes with the use of platinum, but that’s a very interesting story for another day.]

Disclaimer: Neither these, nor any other coins I post, are mine. With older coins, I’m going to find the best pic of one on the internet, so even if I should happen to have one, it’s not the nicest one on earth and I’ll show another…and some coins are worth more than my net worth so I certainly won’t have those!

Important Reminder

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

I hope this guy isn’t rotting in the laogai somewhere!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

714 thoughts on “2020·08·08 KMAG Daily Thread

  1. the little Fascist admits vaccine may only be 50% effective…
    White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday that the chances of scientists creating a highly effective vaccine — one that provides 98% or more guaranteed protection — for the virus are slim.

    Scientists are hoping for a coronavirus vaccine that is at least 75% effective, but 50% or 60% effective would be acceptable, too, Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during a Q&A with the Brown University School of Public Health. “The chances of it being 98% effective is not great, which means you must never abandon the public health approach.”


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      1. If it’s truly 50 percent effective, then half of the time, it’s not useless.

        If there’s no downside to it (a big if!) why wouldn’t someone give it a shot (so to speak)?


  2. Yes I need to sleep, but I’m trying to “finish” my current twitter list…this one may stir up controversy…Blessings!

    I’m Not Catholic but Christian…& I’m Not Catholic bashing here…

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    1. That’s a compromised site. Don’t trust anything about Catholicism unless it’s Catholic World Report, Church Militant or The Remnant at this point.

      America Magazine is published by the Jesuits. Nothing there is worth reading.

      National Catholic Reporter still uses the word Catholic in the title despite being told by the local bishop to cease that practice as what they publish is not.

      Catholic News Agency, EWTN, and Our Sunday Visitor are all mouthpieces of the bishops’ conference at this point, and don’t cover the rough stuff.

      There’s more. Voris lays it out in this:


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        1. When it comes to Catholicism, you have to be informed, or error creeps in.

          Frankly, if one is going to disagree and/or really criticize an entity like the Church, it would be best for those of us “in the know” to be sure the people doing the protesting know what they are protesting. Most of the time, they don’t. The flock is constantly being led astray by wolves.

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  3. H/T CITIZEN817

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    Reminds me of a certain General we all know and love.

    #StevieRayVaughan #Rock #Crossfire
    Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble – Crossfire (Live From Austin, TX)

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    American friends, I am Israeli Trump supporter. I am attaching here an amazing video about the views of Israel. It is from the point of view of a professional biking guy from Austria. It’s an amazing and beautiful video.

    פאביו ויבמר האוסטרי דוהר על החומות כשדגל ישראל מתנופף ברקע !!!!

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      1. Awww…sorry, Gail – some instruments are more attuned to our nature than others – nothing to do with talent – however – it might have something to do with Math Aptitude – or so I have read.

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  6. H/T DORA

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    1. GREAT video. Hid the golf club, golf balls and cat in plain sight! How do they do such things?

      Had to watch it four times before noticing it all.

      Another wonderful Saturday morning. 🙂

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  7. of course…those that scream the loudest…
    Of course nearly everything the Democrats do is corrupt, so it comes as no surprise that the husband of one of the loudest and most disgusting House members, Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, was paid over $700,000 by a Ukrainian Oligarch.
    This same oligarch is at the center of the FBI’s raids yesterday in Cleveland and Miami.


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  8. Quick note from the ground.

    In the last couple days, it was announced that Operation Legend, joint operations between local law enforcement and federal forces, has come to my metropolitan area. The city of STL, specifically. So last night, as the weather has been SPECTACULAR, the windows were open, and being awake at various times during the night, I did hear helicopters in the distance, and I’m not talking about the ones the police and medical people use. Those are smaller, and the rotors make a much different noise. No, these were big guys, like my brother used to fly for the Marines. So, something is going on. I would imagine they were staging out of Scott Air Force Base which is on the other side of the Mississippi River.

    In other news, ward level information on the Democrat primary here came out, and in the city itself, the wards represented by white aldermen all went for the communist, Cori Bush. The wards represented by black aldermen went for Lacy Clay. I’m not sure what happened with North County. Let’s just hope the NoCo people won’t back the lady commie.

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    1. I may be wrong on this, but Rice was named to the Board of Netflix very shortly after the Obamas got involved. My guess is that she was given stock in lieu of salary (Pay off for all the lies she told on TV to cover Obama’s butt.)
      If true, she made a nice hunk of change for no monetary investment …that’s how the game is played, folks.

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  9. hope this Benghazi tweet still shows here…

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  10. Re it may be happening:

    In Pursuit of Truth liked
    Paw printsMilSpecOpsMonkeyPaw prints

    Seem to be a lot of random posts lately by our Mil Ops teams too…
    Quote Tweet

    3rd Special Forces Group
    · 10h
    Night operations. Are you ready? We are.


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        1. I’m sure it’s more than that. 🙂 Think “It’s a Wonderful Life” and what a difference there was when George Bailey had never been born!

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    1. If I were the cops I would SUE the CRAP out of BLM aka ACT BLUE.

      Actually a LOT of lawsuits should be happening about now all over the country. At least SOME are going to hit and then they can start LOOKING at BLM aka ACT BLUE AND FREEZING FUNDS.

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      1. By the very act of treason and violence against the United States 🇺🇸 of America, anywhere .. ANYWHERE their miserable depraved violent feet touch down is no longer a “quaint community” it is a battlefield, their words and violent insane behavior is in essence a repeated Act of War ..

        .. stuff them … God bless the USA 🇺🇸 .. spit 💦💦 ..

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    1. He was a strong evangelical voice for the Trrump campaign, right? This is disappointing. I don’t understand what he was thinking, first in behaving like that, and second in posting it for the world to see? It’s baffling to me.

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  11. And another Military tweet our of the blue.

    U.S. Army
    “Night Stalkers don’t quit!”

    The 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment are highly trained and ready to accomplish the very toughest missions in all environments, anywhere in the world, day or night, with unparalleled precision.

    4:56 PM · Aug 7, 2020

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  12. https://www.foxnews.com/health/mask-mouth-dentists-new-term

    ‘Mask mouth’: Dentists coin new term for smelly side effect of wearing a mask
    By Melkorka Licea | New York Post

    Some bad breath just can’t be covered up.

    Now that dentists have reopened their doors, they’re having patients show up with a nasty set of symptoms, which the doctors have dubbed “mask mouth.”

    The new oral hygiene issue — caused by, you guessed it, wearing a mask all the time to prevent the spread of the coronavirus — is leading to all kinds of dental disasters like decaying teeth, receding gum lines and seriously sour breath.

    “We’re seeing inflammation in people’s gums that have been healthy forever, and cavities in people who have never had them before,” says Dr. Rob Ramondi, a dentist and co-founder of One Manhattan Dental. “About 50% of our patients are being impacted by this, [so] we decided to name it ‘mask mouth’ — after ‘meth mouth.’ ”

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    1. Hydrogen peroxide as a mouth rinse and baking soda in place of toothpaste to the rescue!

      Besides the above is good for helping to prevent periodontal disease.

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  13. twit world censoring Hillary & Susan Rice comments…hope original tweets show this way…

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  14. THREADER – no reader – remove splat *https://twitter.com/40_head/status/1291953904507187201

    Flag of United States 𝟜𝟘ℍ𝕖𝕒𝕕 Flag of United States ⭐⭐⭐ Flag of United States
    1. So many clues staring us right in the face.

    Trump’s staff filled the White House steps to tell him goodbye as he boarded Marine One yesterday for Ohio.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is NOT NORMAL!

    The White House windows were green. [Green Castle]

    Is this a GO command?
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    Dan Scavino Jr.Flag of United States@Scavino45

    · Aug 6
    President Trump is off to the Great State of OHIO! twitter.com/realdonaldtrum…
    Show this thread

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      1. Ack!
        That Thread Reader link says that it’s been deleted because the author has been been suspended.
        So I guess 40 Head has been hit.
        Not good.

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    1. Jude 24-25
      24 Now to him who is able to preserve you without sin, and to present you spotless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, in the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
      25 To the only God our Saviour through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory and magnificence, empire and power, before all ages, and now, and for all ages of ages. Amen.

      All Power, Glory, Righteousness, and Honor are Your Heavenly Father, Son Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit ..

      Hold this man, President Donald J. Trump and his family in the palm of your hand, may he be guided by You according to Your will for Your Glory,
      In the name of the Father
      and of the Son
      and Holy Spirit,
      In Jesus name

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  15. nothing to see here…

    twitter won’t let me re-tweet this (without comment) but it opened fine…so hmmm…

    church in Wal-Mart…

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  16. TruthHammer@T_Hammer_1776

    Hours ago in California…

    34 men arrested in undercover operation targeting ‘would-be child sexual predators’
    34 men arrested in undercover operation targeting ‘would-be child sexual predators’
    CONTENT WARNING: Some details in this story may be disturbing to some readers. FRESNO, California (KSEE/KGPE) — Thirty-four men were arrested in an undercover operation targeting “…


    Replying to @T_Hammer_1776

    Damn good question nobody in power will be brave enough to ask. How many were in the US illegally? How many total victims in their history? Totally could have been avoided if the elected leaders didn’t KNOWINGLY neglect their duty?
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    robwontdrinktheLeftwards arrowkoolaidFlag of United StatesFolded hands@RobertM55560

    · 10h
    Replying to @T_Hammer_1776 and @VincentCrypt46

    Ide like to know how many of those guys were illegal aliens? Being protected by the sanctuary territory known as California. Before we slowly send these demons to their maker, do we get to hold the elected officials of this territory accountable?

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    1. I’ve heard of more trafficking arrests during this administration that in my whole lkife up to this point. I know that it’s partly because patriots are focused on the issue, but it is also because the Trump administration is actively working on it.

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    1. …BWAHAHAHAHAHA … 😂👍❤️‼️ …

      I went to Little Caesar’s to pick up a pizza 🍕 .. they had the “sneeze shield” up and the young lady said ..

      “ You have to have a mask on … “ .. 😑😐😑😐😳😙🤨😤😖🤚 .. nuts 🥜

      Too bad we can’t just have a massive national “no buy anything from the COVID cur commercial food businesses day” … shut them down (prep first 😬) .. then let them rot …

      and …. round up to the next $ … harrumph

      1. They force a mark on you
      2. They round you up ….
      3. To be continued .. /sarc, but be careful, pay attention ..

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    CONFIRMED: Texas Attorney General @KenPaxtonTX has opened an investigation into the Voter Fraud evidence here that involves Sheila Jackson Lee
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    1. Oh dear, my heart would be broken if they discover my idol, Sheila Jackson Lee, was involved in voter fraud…😫😢. I will be shocked…shocked, I say.

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  18. Dear Q-Treepers, I’m sorry for sharing so many twitter items in my sleep deprived state today. After some rest I hope to see more of what many of you are sharing…

    In the mean time, would you please lift up Josiah in prayer again…

    He threw up last night after he took his medicine, within an hour of the pills. Looking at him today I can see that the jaundice is Worse in his eyes than a couple days ago & he’s even getting a bit of Orange Man–Bad cast to his skin.

    We’ve never dealt with the “rejection” route before so I don’t know if the ups & downs of things are “typical”…He still seems mostly fine, overall, & has pretty typical energy. But the jaundice means his liver is still struggling, & possibly the process is moving backwards. This is scary 😦

    They upped some meds this week:
    Celcept 500mg BID to 1000mg BID
    Prograf to 4mg AM & 3mg PM (was 1.5mg AM before hospitalization then 3mg after hospital & 1mg PM before H)
    They decided to continue the slow weaning down on the Prednisone as H discharge scheduled…

    Anyway, it’s pretty alarming to see the jaundice getting worse & I don’t know if even that one thrown up dose could show such a change so quickly…

    Thanks again for praying for Josiah. I really appreciate this prayer support!!! God Bless

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    1. Check and see if there is anything he can take to keep his stomach settled. A friend of mine has to take something or her tummy rejects any medicine she takes. (Can not remember the name but I think it sounded like finigan.)

      This is a problem doctors deal with all the time.

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      1. Well, this is the first episode of vomitting since the hospital. He’s taking quite a few more pills than when he went in, more than twice as much, & he’s tolerated all of that without issue until last night…& it Might have been food-related…hmmm

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          1. Thanks so much Pat. Much appreciated! God Bless…

            Good thing I haven’t slept yet as I’m awaiting our 4th interaction w/ the hospital now. Hopefully the on-call doctor will get hold of Josiah’s actual Liver Transplant doctor & we’ll get direction from him as to how he wants to proceed. It figures that this comes up on the weekend (again) when we’re dealing with the lower on the totem pole types who have to cover the on-call scenarios…

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        1. Phenergan is a tough customer. The drug has a list of major side effects that’s a yard long.
          Took it myself years ago (at a LOW dose) and got titrated off it as soon as possible.
          Even the list of “minor” side effects is bad.

          Make sure to read down through the “For Healthcare Professionals” part of the “Phenergan Side Effects” page.

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        1. Vernor’s really is the best! I’m sorry he is struggling so hard.

          There are these amazing wrist bands that quell motion sickness and nausea you might try. Completely non-invasive and non-drug. You just wear them on the correct pressure points. They actually really work.

          Keeping you both in my prayers.

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    2. Heavenly Father, watch over Josiah, and grant that he may be restored to that perfect health which it is yours alone to give; through Jesus Christ our Lord. In Jesus name, Amen. 🙏🏼 .. ❤️

      Bible Verses for Healing the Sick
      Proverbs 4:20-22 – “My son, pay attention to what I say; turn your ear to my words. Do not let them out of your sight, keep them within your heart; for they are life to those who find them and health to one’s whole body.”
      Psalm 103:2-4 – “Praise the LORD, my soul, and forget not all his benefits— who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases, who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion,”
      Psalm 41:2-3 – “The LORD protects and preserves them— they are counted among the blessed in the land— he does not give them over to the desire of their foes. The LORD sustains them on their sickbed and restores them from their bed of illness.”
      James 6:16 – “Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.”

      May the Lord God Almighty, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit draw close to Josiah to heal and strengthen him. May you and your family be drawn into His loving care, and comfort and keep you safe from harm.

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      1. Oh Nikki thank you for these beautiful prayers & scriptures. This is a wondrous ministry of compassion, love, & healing you are pouring out on Josiah, me, our family, & the Body of Christ as well as anyone who comes along after this conversation & encounters what’s been shared! God Bless YOU Richly for pouring out His love & mercy on us!!!

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        1. Love you dear sweet Val, … showers of blessings to Josiah, you and family … alway
          … 🙂🤚❤️ …

          It’s a bless to me to bring this to the foot of the Throne on your behalf .. ❤️

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            1. I grew up/sarc in Detroit/East side. I went Finley HS, and Denby HS … grew up by the Detroit City Airport. Live in suburbs now, don’t care much for the winters anymore ☹️, too cold. We like all the waterfront areas, it’s hard to pick one. DH parents grew up in the UP Copper Harbor area their parents were from Finland 🇫🇮.

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              1. Fun! Both my parents grew up in Detroit & attended Cooley HS, across the street from my dad’s (& my) childhood church. Both sets of grandparents moved out of Detroit, where they’d planned to retire, during the “white flight” era post race riots of the late 60’s. They both “winterized” summer cottages to make them year round homes.

                Mom’s parents sold their place near Lapeer when elderly to go into a Finnish retirement community in a Detroit suburb. They were both 1st generation Finns from the UP, Newberry, Ishpeming, & Negaunee iirc. Mom spent summers in the UP at their cottage on Pike Lake (no idea where that is) & they used to cross the Straights by ferry before the Mackinac bridge.

                Mom’s dad had built a sauna on their Lapeer property so I grew up taking sauna’s (SOW-nuh pronunciation) & even jumping through the hole in the ice during Winter for a final rinse off. Grandpa used to say that I had SISU, especially when I convinced some college friends who’d come home with me over a break to sauna & jump through the hole in the ice. One of those friends was from Aruba/Venezuela & the other from Jamaica, not exactly used to Michigan’s cold!!!

                Pasties were a staple growing up (with ketchup) & limpuah bread. Ironically my daughter, Clarissa, went to my parents last week to learn how to make limpuah from my mom using Grandma’s recipe. We still have one glorious round loaf of this delicious Finnish rye bread in the refrigerator! Yum!!! The bread is still more my mom’s style than Grandma’s but I loved both so it’s all good…

                Dad’s parents lived year round in their Cottage in/near Gaylord. They spent some winters, for about a decade in Florida after Grandma inherited her parents trailer down there When GM died GP stayed year round Up North.

                We lived in Gaylord at the beginning of our marriage & our first son was born there–nicknamed “the Jackpine Savage”. We lived in the Cottage for about a year & a half so our son’s height went on the 4 generation door jambs recording family growth at One Day Old!

                We still lived up there when the twins were born but they were born downstate (thankfully) due to the high risk pregnancy & Josiah’s anticipated needs. I was pregnant with our daughter when we All moved downstate (my husband had been working in the Detroit area for like a year & coming home on weekends while the boys & I stayed in our home that we Eventually sold by owner–those were some Crazy Days)…

                We mostly vacation at the Cottage now, due to budget constraints, but enjoy swinging further afield as we can, especially if we’re on a longer trip like around the 4th of July.

                My husband worked in the oil & gas field Up North while we lived in the Gaylord region so he still knows Lots of the old sites he used to service, 2 tracks into the glorious Northern Woods. He still likes to do a drive across several counties when up there…trips down memory lane & into God’s beauty!

                I Love Michigan but pretty much can’t stand the dictator in the governor’s mansion, Gretchen Whitmer. She’s doing her darnedest to destroy our great state, the economy, the enjoyment of our expansive natural resources, etc.

                We had friends who lived on the East Side, Harper Woods, & moved away a few years back, up to the Saint Clair area (near where some of my husband’s Michigan forebears used to live–we didn’t know he had a MI past til my genealogical research unearthed some gems 🙂 ). Those friends used to hear gun shots regularly & when a bullet was embedded in their neighbor’s house it was the last straw & they had to get out. They’ve got a 5 acre “gentleman’s farm” now in the Thumb Region & absolutely love it there!

                I grew up in the West Side suburbs but attended church in my youth on the East Side. Most of my family is still in the West Side, though one brother lives in Dallas now…

                My husband Hates the cold too. I love the snow & enjoy shoveling. However, dealing with excess snow/ice in the morning before heading out for work, etc. is a Major Pain!

                Well sorry for going on so long. Glad to know that there’s a fellow Q-Treeper nearby! God Bless.

                If for some reason you, or others, might enjoy further remembrances on the Cottage, etc. Here are a couple of posts, one featuring TrumpIsMine, that delve even deeper!



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  19. Jack Posobiec Flag of United States Retweeted
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    Here are the original charges filed against Ibrahim Bouaichi. He was later released due to COVID and has allegedly murdered the woman he was arrested for raping in Alexandria, Virginia.

    He appears to have been set free without court-ordered monitoring
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    1. Jack Posobiec Flag of United States@JackPosobiec
      Flashback: Virginia Dramatically Decreases Jail Population Following Guidance from Governor Northam
      Virginia Dramatically Decreases Jail Population Following Guidance from Governor Northam
      Governor Ralph Northam today announced that Virginia’s collaborative efforts to release low-level offenders from local and regional jails in response to the COVID-19 pandemic are working, and the…


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    2. It is obvious that NORTHAM is h3ll-bent on achieving population control BY ANY MEANS necessary: abortion on demand up to AND including babies born alive after an abortion — now letting criminals loose into the citizenry.
      Betcha that Northam at some point goes for the “Cuomo Shuffle” and forces positive CCP Virus elderly into nursing homes in Virginia.
      And since he’s an MD, “nursing homes” can be expanded to include “skilled nursing” and “rehabilitation facilities” to open up the AGE RANGE of CCP Virus patients these places would be forced to accept.

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      1. That’s the USA – escaping the regulations, economy being unleashed, flying away from the oppressive leftist PC crap, ‘Free At Last’!!!!!

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  20. I hope it posts, and that it’s actually available. I just listened to the bulk of this, Bannon wasn’t the host. A bunch of the heavy-hitters were guests – Risch, Zelenko, Todaro from the frontline docs, Dr. Vliet from Tucson AND Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson.

    I was completely blown away with Sen. Johnson’s reply to a viewer question, near the end of the broadcast. The question was the one that’s on everyone’s mind – why has POTUS completely changed course and now going of his way to avoid mentioning HCQ, despite ever increasing evidence of the success rate? Johnson agreed with the listener, and replied that his advisors are steering him against it, as they don’t want to take the hit in the press. Take the hit in the press. Johnson is one of the good guys, right? If this is true at all, there’s one word for it. Weak.

    And how many lives could have been saved (as these docs are all saying) and how many COULD be saved going forward, by keeping people out of the hospital with HCQ?

    He has my vote, and I will continue to donate — but this is starting to taint his presidency. Ventilators were not the answer, but there was no way to know that. HCQ is the most obvious answer, and still nothing is done on a massive scale to make it available, shackle free.

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      1. Did I understand her correctly – Did the Asian Dr. Li Mong Yan say the SARS-2 virus hasn’t gone away at the end of the usual cold/flu season – because it was modified?

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            1. Actually when she was on I was trying to play scrabble on pogo at the same time, and I couldn’t leave the game without forfeiting points. Could not give her my full attention. 😄

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    1. Sometimes POTUS goes along with things just to prove the advisors wrong and/or to get the people themselves out in the trenches to set the record straight. I think this is one of those times. Fauci’s ego and hubris is going to cost him big time in the end.

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        1. “sometimes dying” . . . and there’s the thing that really gets me . . . well, along with suffering and permanent lung or organ damage. If PTrump has it within his ability to remove restrictions on HCQ but is not removing tose restrictions for political or teaching or investigating reasons, HE IS WRONG!

          You can’t stack death, real suffering and permanent organ damage up against almost anything.

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          1. NY Post article today, Paul Vallone a Dem councilman from Queens had the virus back in March and the situation looked bad. Took HCQ/Zpak and was better almost immediately. And he has sarcoidosis as well. Says he is thankful for POTUS’ advocacy. So what happened to the damned advocacy?

            On the Bannon program earlier, they were talking about an emergency use authorization – but what I don’t understand is how this has been allowed to get so out of control. Meds are used off-label all the time. The doctor/patient relationship used to matter in this country.

            He missed the big opportunity to turn it around when those docs came to Washington. According to Dr. Todaro, they met with Pence. And what’s the upshot of that?

            I will never forget what Sen. Johnson said, and frankly it took balls to say it. They don’t want to take the hit in the press.

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    2. “… If this is true at all, there’s one word for it. Weak…..”

      Remember that President Trump is NOT KING. He is dealing with a government full of subversives and out right traitors that he can not get rid of. The ENTIRE management section of the CDC is Senior Exc Service. (I went over that early on.) I imagine the FDA is also.

      For President Trump, HCQ is another TRAP that he has managed to side step. He is NOT a doctor so he can only push it so far. He got the word out there in the Covid Press Beatings and now MEDICAL DOCTORS are grabbing the ball and running with it.

      People have died, thanks to murderous governors but a lot more have been saved thanks to President Trump getting the word out AND THEN BACKING OFF and ALLOWING the medical community to deal with it.

      We really have ZERO idea of how many people did not get really sick and did not die BECAUSE of HCQ + Zinc or Zinc + other zinc ionophores and the other information that became available.

      NEVER FORGET we are in a ‘fourth generation’ war and unfortunately THERE WILL BE DEATHS. Meanwhile there is a war to be won.

      PS BEWARE of Steve Bannon….

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      1. I went there to listen to Risch/Zelenko/Todaro – Bannon wasn’t on. So you don’t believe that Trump has the power to free up doctors to be able to prescribe this without consequence? He does not have the power to stop pharmacies that are refusing to fill the prescriptions? He does not have the power to forbid governors from banning the use of HCQ for the virus? That’s what I’m talking about. I realize the info is out there, but what good is the info if it’s next to impossible to get the med? Zelenko addressed this VERY THING on the show — when a listener wanted to know how to go about finding a doc. He wound up referencing the same telemed we’ve posted here.

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        1. No, Trump doesn’t have the power to forbid governors from doing much of anything, if he wants to be President. We fought the last Civil War for States Rights. There is only so much leverage he has, unless he risks actual civil war. The Constitution gives the States a LOT of power to govern their own people.

          If you want HCQ, go to your doctor and insist. Have you tried? Be prepared with the facts and don’t let up. I could not care less if my doctor likes me or not. I don’t know if you read my experience this week, but I was able to get it. I had to fight uphill, but I got it. Maybe your doctor would prescribe it for you, and you could find a pharmacy. I had to go to two; the first one initially refused. The second one filled the scrip, then the first one relented! So I have TWO, because of course I picked them both up.

          I personally believe Trump realized that he was causing a backlash against the drug that could cure people, so he stopped talking about it hoping it would die down and people would be treated. More people are, and doctors are using it more than we think, in my opinion. I don’t really believe the death numbers are real. I think they are attributing everything under the sun to covid.

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          1. I’ve been taking HCQ since May 3rd. Prophylactic dose through the telemed we’ve posted about here.

            So, a governor can forbid the prescribing of an FDA-approved med, just because he/she feels like it because it works politically, and POTUS has no say?

            As I said in my initial comment, I was slack-jawed that Sen. Ron Johnson (very loyal) was willing to come out and say that POTUS’ advisors are telling him that he can’t take the hit from the press over HCQ.

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  21. just came back from a drive–loads and loads of yard sales happening in towns all around here. no masks, people walking around, smiling, laughing…NORMAL.
    and oh yeah…more and more TRUMP and MAGA flags out there!

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  22. Steve, thanks On-going education about coins and money in world history, especially with the photos. I learn each Saturday.
    One of the best books I’ve read, now several years ago, was by Edward Rutherford called London. He’s known for his lengthy historical books written along the same style as James Mitchner, weaving a story line over hundreds of years with heavy emphasis on the evolving history.
    Rutherford starts out his book, London, in the Druid period and continues to the mid-50’s. But, he tells how common terms we all use still today in money, measurements, weights, etc. came about. Fascinating! I’m seriously considering trying to find the book again and enjoy it once more.
    One of the pieces of gold I am planning to sell is a Venezuelan caciques, given to me by one of my classes when I taught at the U of Carabobo in Valencia. It’s 900 grams of gold and I had a gold frame and clasp added to wear as a pendant. I know it means absolutely nothing to anyone in our families and anyone inheriting it would sell it…so I decided to do that myself.
    As with other collecting pieces, it’s fun to read the history of these coins that honor long forgotten Indian chiefs. As far as I know, unless it’s in the remote area of Angel Falls , a jungle in the SE part of the country, or perhaps in the upper Andes…..there is no trace of an Indian heritage today in the country..

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    1. Nine HUNDRED grams!!!! You realize that’s about two grocery-store pounds, right?

      I suspect you read .900 (the purity, 9/10ths gold) as a weight.

      Or you’re fabulously rich and I should propose this instant.

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        1. It used to be worse.

          A lot of cultures would use a unit of weight as a purity measure. In fact, that’s what the karat is. There were 24 karats in a mark in Cologne, so basically designating something as 18 karat gold meant that a mark of the stuff would contain 18 karats of gold. Russians did something similar with their zolotnik (1/96th of their pound, different from ours); what makes it more confusing even for those poor guys, is zolotnik is closely related to the word for gold (zoloto). Of course they’ve long since gone metric and use decimal purity like “.900 fine”, so no hassles now. Karats don’t bother us today because no one actually weighs things in karats.

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      1. When you see it as a color (e.g., selecting bathroom fixtures), “platinum” is a very light gray, whiter than the color named “silver”. The truth of the matter is platinum is actually a darker gray than silver…in fact silver is the whitest metal known, at least until it tarnishes.

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