Dear KAG: 20200708 Open Thread

Hot enough for ya?

I like mine crispy, how about you?

And now for something completely different.

That just popped into my feed and I thought y’all might like it.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

In addition, it is requested that there be no swinging from the chandeliers, celebratory gunfire, messing around with the nuclear weapons, and, please, everyone wash your hands.

Please, do not forget to apply sunscreen after a sensible amount of time in the sun so as to beef up the level of vitamin D in the system.

Please remember to remain locked and loaded and ready for trouble should the insurrectionists try to invade your space.

Those who have things to say that do not fit the generally accepted limits of “civil” discussion, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree which is currently going through its water cooler/canteen phase. Please, venture over there for any such thoughts and comments. This sort of thing is always a possibility on that site:

American mainstream media sorts are holding out on some really interesting information of what’s going on in the world. A pox on them.

A few other vital notes:

Please, review these rules that our host Wolfm00n outlined toward the beginning of the growth of the tree itself. it won’t take long.

Ridiculing the other side, on the other hand…well….


The beginning of Psalm 105

Alleluia. Give glory to the Lord, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever. [2] Who shall declare the powers of the Lord? who shall set forth all his praises? [3] Blessed are they that keep judgment, and do justice at all times. [4] Remember us, O Lord, in the favour of thy people: visit us with thy salvation. [5] That we may see the good of thy chosen, that we may rejoice in the joy of thy nation: that thou mayst be praised with thy inheritance.

[6] We have sinned with our fathers: we have acted unjustly, we have wrought iniquity. [7] Our fathers understood not thy wonders in Egypt: they remembered not the multitude of thy mercies: And they provoked to wrath going up to the sea, even the Red Sea. [8] And he saved them for his own name’s sake: that he might make his power known. [9] And he rebuked the Red Sea, and it was dried up: and he led them through the depths, as in a wilderness. [10] And he saved them from the hand of them that hated them: and he redeemed them from the hand of the enemy.

[11] And the water covered them that afflicted them: there was not one of them left. [12] And they believed his words: and they sang his praises. [13] They had quickly done, they forgot his works: and they waited not for his counsels. [14] And they coveted their desire in the desert: and they tempted God in the place without water. [15] And he gave them their request: and sent fulness into their souls.

[16] And they provoked Moses in the camp, Aaron the holy one of the Lord. [17] The earth opened and swallowed up Dathan: and covered the congregation of Abiron. [18] And a fire was kindled in their congregation: the flame burned the wicked. [19] They made also a calf in Horeb: and they adored the graven thing. [20] And they changed their glory into the likeness of a calf that eateth grass.

[21] They forgot God, who saved them, who had done great things in Egypt, [22] Wondrous works in the land of Cham: terrible things in the Red Sea. [23] And he said that he would destroy them: had not Moses his chosen stood before him in the breach: To turn away his wrath, lest he should destroy them. [24] And they set at nought the desirable land. They believed not his word, [25] And they murmured in their tents: they hearkened not to the voice of the Lord.

[26] And he lifted up his hand over them: to overthrow them in the desert; [27] And to cast down their seed among the nations, and to scatter them in the countries. [28] They also were initiated to Beelphegor: and ate the sacrifices of the dead. [29] And they provoked him with their inventions: and destruction was multiplied among them. [30] Then Phinees stood up, and pacified him: and the slaughter ceased.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, members of the Cabinet, first responders and those working behind the scenes.

Can you tell it’s summer?

630 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20200708 Open Thread

      1. I know sometimes June can be wet, but it’s usually the regular PNW drizzle. Instead, we’ve had a lot more drenching type rain. We had to change our garden plans this year because it’s been too chilly.

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        1. I hear ya jam. It’s been a cool summer so far here in the valley overcast till afternoon barely getting to 70 .hubby isn’t planting this year it’s been to wet.not complaining to much though as I love the drizzle and rain 😊

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    1. Can I tell it’s summer?

      Yep. Sure can.

      I humbly suggest this short video to make air travelers more savvy about summertime travel re: the time of day they choose to fly, the type of airplane they choose to book themselves on, and the airports they choose to fly into and out of.

      Knowing these three things can minimize the chances of having your flight being delayed or even cancelled, leaving you frustrated and/or stranded. And no one enjoys that.

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      1. Living with an aerospace engineer, I knew some of this. Thank you, though. One trip I took, not sure which, the booking agent talked about air traffic building as the day goes on, and that adds to delays. It had to do with getting somewhere else to get to a flight overseas.

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        1. For the most part and by and large you are correct. Bad weather (storms) are the #1 cause of delays/cancellations.

          That said, airports that can experience extreme temps and/or are at high elevations have unique summertime risks of same that are unrelated to storms. Phoenix, Tucson, Reno, Las Vegas, Denver, and Salt Lake City are some of the larger airports to pay particular attention to. You may have noticed that some places with high elevations and shorter runways don’t even have summertime air service.

          This repeats the info in the video, but…

          When air gets hotter, it also gets less dense. And when an airplane wing moves through less dense air, it produces less lift at a given speed. The result is that on hot days, airplanes have to generally go faster to takeoff.

          But, going faster means that more runway is needed to accelerate to takeoff speed, so there’s a limit – a temperature at which for a given aircraft and airport, there isn’t enough runway available for the airplane to take off at its maximum weight.

          In this situation, there is only one thing to do – make the airplane lighter. Since fuel is somewhat non-negotiable, the flight’s payload of passengers and cargo must be reduced, and the airplane is said to be weight restricted. Weight restriction is reasonably common in the summertime, although it occurs at some airports more often than at others. Specifically, airports with high temperatures (Phoenix), high elevations (Denver), or short runways (New York’s LaGuardia or Washington, DC’s Reagan National) are particularly susceptible to weight restriction.

          Here is the best general advice to avoid this particular issue:

          Plan your departures in the AM before the heat of the day builds up if you happen to be at one of these airports.

          It’s not the landings at said places, it’s about getting off the ground on the day you want/need to leave.

          Hot, humid, and high airport elevation are the 3 bad summertime culprits, especially when all 3 are present.

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      2. During my working years, was a frequent flyer. Time of year, likely weather, time of day, connection issues. Airport gate lay out,, were always part of my flight selection planning.

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    2. Yesterday I was out with son as he was haying. He is new to the tractor and we feel best if one of us is out in the field with him. Anyway, I cam very close to overheating. Never have done that before. Had to have cold clothes, fed me ice cream, lots of water, cool shower, etc. Was scary and I will be more careful and you all be careful too. It can sneak up on you.

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      1. A few years ago I had what is called a sun stroke and since then I’m very heat sensitive…to the point of passing out if I get too hot outdoors….one of the reasons I no longer hike or play golf. For years I rarely sweated..would get bright red in the face…so my body obviously didn’t have a good Functioning mechanism for cooling and I guess it caught up with me.
        Yes, it is a scary experience but one of those things you just learn to live with and adjust, but it was a good lesson for you and thankfully you were with others that knew what to do for you. I have one of those oversized sun umbrellas (Silver and deflects the hot sun rays) , used by golfers in hot sun conditions, that I take with me when going to be outdoors. I recommend it, Maga Mom,

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        1. thank you – will check into that.

          I had actually been thinking about how great it was that I was getting so much Vit D esp. now being in crowds and having GOP events/meetings, etc.

          But too much of a good thing…

          We live on a hill that elevates a little over 100 feet from lower pasture to house. Already overheated and then climbed the hill to home v. sending son for husband to come with vehicle to drive me up. Also, I didn’t drink much of the water because thought son was one working hard in sun and he needed it. Well, it was hot in the shade + I was walking and standing in the fields/sun helping him know where to mow (still young and still learning to drive and figure things out)

          Came stumbling in house saying “I am not well” and collasping in chair after needing help to walk through house as that close to pass out …. rough condition. POOR choices on my part tyring to tough it out. Get tired of always being the physically weak link but Lesson Learned! Rather be the physically weak link v. broken link!


    3. kea when I lived in St Louise many moons ago I adjusted to the humidity and heat well to the point of only using air conditioner at night. When I moved to OH I did not understand the complaint about summer heat or cold winter. Now that I am older I enjoy the conditioner and still enjoy mornings to be out in the garden.
      My husband cannot take the heat is mother was the same they wilt in the heat. My one brother is like me and loved Africa and India and his wife had to live in the mountains in India because she could not take it.
      I do feel for people who are sensitive to heat.
      Thank God people have conditioner.


    1. Hey DP, thanks for the clip of the 2012 SD firework boo-boo-. I had heard ab it, but hadn’t thought to look up a video.
      that was awesome!!!
      Great Scripture selection also…we know a bit ab abandoning God…seen on nightly news.

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      1. One has to know the Lord first before one can abandon him.

        We could have an entire thread on this topic.




        The devil’s inroad was television.

        Selected text from Revelations 13:11-15…makes it as clear a crystal.

        Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth.
        It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast
        it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.
        Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, and it deceived the inhabitants of the earth.
        The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak




        Read Rev. 13:16-17 for the kicker.

        This is where we are today, IMHO.

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        1. “The devil’s inroad was television.”

          First came movies…and the propaganda potential was quickly noticed and put to use.

          But people had to leave their homes to go see a movie.

          Television brought the propaganda right into the home, where it could be piped in every day around the clock.
          Advertisers quickly pounced on this new way to push their products.

          People are visually oriented.
          This makes us vulnerable to being influenced by what we see.

          This is why I think it is ludicrous when people say that first-person-shooter video games “Don’t influence teenagers”.
          The genre of first-person-shooter games grew out of military training games…developed to make new recruits desensitized to the act of shooting people.

          And unlike in the military…when a teen is playing one of those games, there is no Sargent standing over them telling them Who the enemy is.

          Moving images on a screen can be used for both good and bad.
          Unfortunately, the bad guys in the entertainment industry outnumber the good guys.

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          1. TV was a great blessing for a long time.

            And the potential for it’s misuse was well recognized, hence ratings and standards.

            But it’s fallen a LONG way from the standards of our childhoods to today. And for what (and how)?

            Filthy lucre and power.

            Same as it ever was.

            And the fact that God gave John the vision for seeing how “the image of the second beast” would “perform great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people”, “deceived the inhabitants of the earth”, and “was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak” makes it clear that movies and TV is CLEARLY what John was speaking of in the prophecy given to him by God.

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        2. “The devil’s inroad was television.”

          I would posit that it started with literature and theater – see James Joyce and Oscar Wilde with a few others thrown in – and television helped the acceleration.

          The romantic period in opera was pretty loaded with sinful themes. La Traviata (Verdi) is all about a mistress in Paris. La Boheme (Puccini) is about “the Bohemians” in Paris which includes a lot of free sex. Saint-Saens’s Samson et Delilah has one of the most sensual arias in all of opera in it.

          It started long before television.

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          1. And yet the themes you speak of have always been present throughout mankind’s history…including in plays/dramas/stage.

            “…so that the image could speak” …plays, etc could always “speak”…

            ….and “perform great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people”

            is clearly a reference to movies and TV.

            …in my opinion.

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      2. I came across that video earlier in the week. Being from STL, where fireworks is a staple of summer, and the displays are really stunning, I LMAO. That’s a MAJOR oops.

        And the scripture is from today’s Mass readings. That’s usually where I go to make a selection.

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  1. .
    As Michael suggested, update your avatars.

    You can easily use the meme generator I showed you how to use to set the image above inside your current avatar, save as a new pic, then upload.



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  2. Mmm…bacon. I love bacon.
    And I like mine crispy too, DePat.

    How about a mountain of bacon…bacon for everyone!

    BLT’s…bacon and eggs…I even like to crumble up bacon and put it on my oatmeal.
    Or even better, on a bowl of Cream O Wheat or Malt O Meal.
    Bacon added to a salad can make the rabbit food much more palatable.

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    1. “How about a mountain of bacon…bacon for everyone!”

      When I see mounds of bacon, I think of “rashers of bacon”. Those words do something for me! Sensuous, in a way.

      I just finished reading a James Oliver Curwood story from the gold rush era in the far northwest where bacon was a staple in every breakfast made — at the cabin, or on a campfire on the trail. I wondered how they kept it from spoiling.

      Smoked bacon that preserved it?

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        1. Interesting. I remember reading of salt being layered in with fresh meat (fish, passenger pigeons) and placed in a barrel prior to shipping to distant markets. Also I remember salted pork being mentioned in the Curwood story. The bacon was cut from a slab. One of the main characters had trouble cutting consistent thicknesses of bacon, as he was distracted by his new love interest, who was nearby.

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      1. Speaking of rashers reminded me of this:

        There are two Mexicans who have been lost in the desert for weeks, and they’re at death’s door.

        As they stumble on, hoping for salvation in the form of an oasis or something similar they suddenly spy, through the shimmering heat haze, a tree off in the distance.

        As they get closer they can see that the tree is draped with rasher upon rasher of bacon. There’s smoked bacon, crispy bacon, life giving juicy nearly-raw bacon, all sorts.

        “Hey, Pepe,” says the first bloke “Ees a bacon tree!!! We’re saved!!!”

        “You’re right, amigo!” says Pepe. So Pepe goes on ahead and runs up to the tree, salivating at the prospect of food.

        But as he gets to within five feet of the tree, there’s the sound of machine gun fire, and he is shot down in a hail of bullets.

        His friend quickly drops down on the sand and calls across to the dying Pepe.

        “Pepe!! Pepe!! Que pasa hombre?”

        With his last dying breath Pepe calls out… “Ugh, run, amigo, run!!

        Ees not a Bacon Tree!”

        (Scroll Down, ees worth it!)
        “Ees… a…. Ham bush”

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        1. You already know how bad that is so it would be a waste of time to tell you how bad that is but I cannot help myself so …

          THAT WAS BAD!!!

          [snort out loud; groan]


          1. I have an excuse, though 🙂

            It was sent to me by a Scottish colleague… Scotland, ye know, tha land o’ Haggis, battered Mars Bars, and some sort of alcohol filtered through remnants of peat bogs 😆

            They kilt it, then they distill’t it… 🙂

            (that famous team, Gordon Bennett and Pete Boggs)…


  3. I just now read the first page of yesterday’s open thread and saw the part about SD (OT). Realizing that I don’t know everything that is going on because I no longer read over there, I had a few thoughts.

    I agree with Tom F, who mentioned “drama queen.” I also agree with Wheatie and Deplorable Patriot — none of us are fans. I respect Wolfmoon’s right to his opinion, of course, and everyone else’s, for that matter.

    I also reject the boxes people get placed in. I “trust the plan,” but reject the ridiculing, derogatory terms used OT, which smack of Alinsky tactics against our own side. Trusting the plan doesn’t mean I think everything is in the bag and will be perfectly pulled off. There are way too many variables in life for that to happen without a hitch. Instead, trusting the plan means that we finally have people with the brains and guts to do something about the mess that America and the world are in. Knowing that, we watch. And we see that things are happening. Even when it looks as if we should be losing, we are winning. That leads to more trust.

    We are all impatient and want action now. It is human nature to think we know best, when we don’t have all the data to base that assumption on. If you believe they have everything, then they know the right time(s) to strike.

    I didn’t see anyone mention this: What if some actions taken by SD (or anyone else) would sabotage the plan? I don’t know what he has in mind, but what if it would be akin to that guy in the movies who just can’t wait and who takes matters into his own hands, spoiling everything because of his hubris and lack of knowledge or causing the planners to have to regroup? Sometimes people get killed, and sometimes, in real life, things get ruined beyond repair. I have zero reason to trust that any action of SD’s would enhance what Pres. Trump, Barr, Durham, Q, and the rest of the team are trying to do. In fact, I see it as a probable liability for their end goal.

    So I look upon the drama, mystery, and self-aggrandizement of one riding in on a white horse to “save” the Trump administration before the election, with nothing but trepidation. I have many reasons to trust a team that has proven itself over and over, but no reason to trust someone whose judgment I have had multiple occasions to question.

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    1. Thank you, TheseTruths!

      I’ve had the same thoughts about ‘sabotaging the plan’ and wondered about Sd’s motives in some of the things he has written.
      Like when Matt Whittaker had been made Acting AG and Sd got wind of a ‘covert group of people who were working behind the scenes to help Pres Trump’…

      Sd wanted to expose who those white hats were.(!!)
      He made a post about it, asking us to crowdsource it and find out ‘who’ these guys were.
      How is that…helpful?
      Why do that?

      So thank you for this post, TT…I think you are spot on!

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      1. “Sd wanted to expose who those white hats were.(!!)
        He made a post about it, asking us to crowdsource it and find out ‘who’ these guys were.”


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        1. Sundance:
          “…immediately following each adverse action, we see a mysterious countermeasure of sunlight from an unknown origin. And we never stop to ask: where does the sunlight come from?

          Sd goes on to list the times that helpful evidence was mysteriously released, then asks:

          “We gleefully chew over all the details, but in the bigger picture – where is/was all of this public information, the countermeasures, the evidence that exposes the corruption, coming from?”

          Then a couple of days later…he points to Matt Whittaker as being the ‘source’, and basically calls him out for being a leaker:

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          1. Hmmm.

            That’s not how I read that SD post you linked re: Whittaker, at all.

            Wanting to know where the data came from is quite reasonable and it sure as heck doesn’t jibe with this accusation…

            “SD wanted to expose who those white hats were.(!!)”

            Btw, I couldn’t find this (below) in any of the links you provided. Maybe I missed it.

            “ he made a post about it, asking us to crowdsource it and find out ‘who’ these guys were.”

            So am I to believe you think SD could find out this information and the “black hats” and their sources INSIDE the gov’t could not, thus making SD responsible for “exposing them”??

            Because this is what you are indirectly implying.

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            1. That’s how it struck me.

              I mean…why ask “where is this sunlight coming from?”

              Why give the black hats any help at all?
              No matter how small the help…
              It made no sense.

              YMMV, but that’s how it struck me.

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              1. “why ask “where is this sunlight coming from?”

                You really need an explanation for that BESIDES some nefarious accusation that SD was trying to expose “white hats” (and, by necessary extension, harm PDJT)??

                “Why give the black hats any help at all?”

                Again…you really think they needed SD’s help to figure this out??

                “It made no sense.”

                Actually and in point of fact, what makes no sense is the very particular….and peculiar….accusation and the associated reasoning you are pushing here. It’s one thing to say one doesn’t like SD for his censorship of Q related posts/comments…

                …it’s quite another thing altogether to suggest that Sundance is either stupid and/ or working on behalf of the Democrats and deep state against PDJT’s best interests…

                …which is precisely what you are doing.

                I also note that you are the first one here at Q Tree to EVER make this accusation, to the best of my recollection.

                I wonder what Daughn would think of all this.


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            2. FG&C, Sundance absolutely DID out Matt Whittaker as the person he believed was the source of information he was getting.

              Here is the post where he did it. “Snorkle Extensions.”


              Here is the quote:

              “What I can share is that it seems likely, after more than a year of trying to understand/follow a never discussed background information network adverse to the administrative state, I’ve finally found the source; the source of more than a years worth of breadcrumbs…

              …He was hired as Sessions chief of staff in October 2017…”

              That last line is under the mouse photo. It is a LINK, and I think some people missed that fact, thinking it was only a sentence. Click the link, and you get:

              “Matthew Whitaker: Trump defends acting attorney general amid protest”


              I was SHOCKED at the time that Sundance would do this, and I have never trusted him since. This was self-aggrandizing at the potential cost of damaging a very important White Hat.

              Sundance has done some good work, but he has a personal agenda that has been made patently clear, at least to me.

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              1. Exactly how did this damage Whittaker…or PDJT for that matter??

                Be specific, please.

                I hear the accusation. Please show us the evidence.

                Lack of a response will be taken as no evidence exists, that the accusation is false, and you…like Wheatie….have falsely accused someone who is very much a “citizen journalist” and great investigator. And again, you don’t have to like him personally. Heck, I was mad at him for more than a minute. But everyone here, including you I assume, hates false accusations (exactly no different than being called a racist simply because we support PDJT).

                I loath hypocrisy as much as the Lord. I want your evidence that supports the accusation. If I’m going to be hard of liberals over this, I can’t be a hypocrite and let it slide when our side does it.

                Integrity matters.

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              2. My statement was:

                “FG&C, Sundance absolutely DID out Matt Whittaker as the person he believed was the source of information he was getting.”

                This is absolutely accurate. Nowhere did I use the words “damage Whittaker.” That is your interpretation. You are doing your classic intimidation/bullying bullshit with me, and it won’t work, so knock it off. I said PRECISELY what I meant, and presented the evidence (Sundance’s own words) as the backup to my statement. YOU just don’t like it, because you are a Sundance fan. Which is fine with me, but it doesn’t change the FACT of what Sundance DID. If YOU have evidence that there was any OTHER reason for Sundance to make the above statement other than self-aggrandizement, present it.

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              3. Addendum.

                I did say this:

                “at the potential cost of damaging a very important White Hat”

                Note the word “potential.” I don’t know if there was “damage” or not. What I do know is the potential for damage in outing a source should be obvious to any “journalist,” citizen or not.

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          1. Keep your friends close, and your ENEMIES closer perhaps? I always was very suspicious of someone who downplayed EVERY action that revealed there WAS in fact a PLAN. I wrote a LO”NG post that SD banned. I knew then that something was NOT kosher with the sheer AMOUNT of vitriol by SD towards ANYTHING Q.

            At FIRST I thought it was JUST about $$$, and “competition” of a contrary narrative to his own. Then I saw the, SD was more, especially in the LATTER stages of 2018-2019, about the SAME time Drudge flipped, dis info than INFO. Yes he would have the “occasional” reveal, and then get people thinking about an issue, but THEN he would go about dissecting ANY opposition to HIS opinion.

            Prime examples. This is by a “small group” in the DOJ. PFFFT. I told him this was WAY more than ANY small group and it was ALL over the world, Got BANNED for it. Then his being ADAMANT that even Trump could NOT win, the swamp was too deep. All the while those with their eyes OPEN saw EXACTLY what was happening to the swamp, first the safeguards and GUARDIANS at the gates had to be removed, like a PLAN.

            IMHO SD is now one of those sites that, for PROFFIT, were NOT MAGA, but sources of DISSENT and DIS info. Put out JUST enough to make you credible, but if ANYONE gets too close to the target, dissuade, deflect, counter, and finally BAN. Q did WARN us to be wary. Look at Corsi as an example.

            I THINK there may have been a CONCERTERD effort to BUY OUT select Conservatives sites, and change the narratives from WITHIN. Drudge is ONE example, is CT ANOTHER? Think it CAN’T happen, I give you Fox news over the last 12 months.

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            1. Show me the disinfo.

              Not believing in Q is different from intentionally misleading people.

              Show me the evidence of intentionally misleading people.

              I’ll wait.


              1. I did, the very denial of a plan, Q, and the “small group” narrative. The Trump cannot and ?IS not beating the swamp being another. I am sure I can find more,

                The very FACT that SD could not and WOULD NOT tolerate ANY dissent to HIS narrative is in fact a form of dis info, SUPPRESSION of free thought.

                Tell me FGC, is what SD did to Q believers ANY different than what Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, and the MSM is doing to conservatives, suppressing dissent, suppressing free thought and discussion, and putting out a counter narrative to that dissent, WITHOUT allowing ANY counter discussion because of being BANNED?

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            2. “I THINK there may have been a CONCERTERD effort to BUY OUT select Conservatives sites, and change the narratives from WITHIN. Drudge is ONE example, is CT ANOTHER? Think it CAN’T happen, I give you Fox news over the last 12 months.”

              This is a possibility, but I will say this as a paid blogger for six years, advertisers can and do make demands of the sites where they monetize. I’ve been working with the same guys for most of those six years. We’re on site #7 or 8 at this point because we keep getting banned, but back in 2014 and 2015 when we were making good money before the big algorithm changes happened, AdSense, which is the service many blogs use for monetization, made demands and it effected the content, and ultimately page views.

              In the case of CTH, SD, etc., the real truth has not been revealed and may never be, but all options we speculate are possible without more details.

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              1. That is why, no matter IF I get a large following, will i EVER monetize. It is NOT about $$ to me. I do NOT need someone telling how to write or how to think!. I am like a TV, don’t like me, DON’T read, change the channel.

                IF SD sold his principles for $$$ that would speak VOLUMES as to his true convictions and motivations. JMHO.

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              2. Oh, I know that, JMHO. Question, IF SD were in on the plan, would it NOT have been easier to simply have a priviate message with the “offenders” instead of an all out BAN, with no recompense to EVER come back? I think THAT answers the question. I have had warnings from blog moderators before being banned, I got no such warning from SD, only a BAN. I think THAT happened to MANY here, and THAT speaks volumes.

                I even IM’d SD, NO response. Tried an EMAIL to, no response. Offered an apology, even said what ever I did, I would NOT do again, just tell me, NO response.

                It is TOO coincidental to be over looked that at approximately the same time, Drudge, CT, Fox, and a few other large Conservative sites “flipped” from pro trump to decidedly NOT pro Trump. Those sites that did NOT flip. have been systematically ELIMINATED by shadow ban or outright deplatforming.

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        1. Cozy now? She’s been a CTH reader for years. Even comments on occasion. I directly spoke with her through CTH comment section. In fact, it could be that CTH was at least partially responsible in getting her involved in the defense of Gen. Flynn, which most assuredly was a GREAT thing, though she has told another story about how that happened (which I am not fully convinced of).

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      2. YW. I lost respect for how things are done over there even before I started posting there several years ago. But it was the most truly conservative and, later, Trump-supporting site at the time, so I joined in. I read and learned so much from the commenters.

        People thinking they know what this administration should be doing, when they couldn’t possibly know all the facts, is a major pet peeve of mine. I didn’t, and don’t, agree with Steve Bannon’s taking credit for a lot of things and speaking as if he were the brains behind the Trump administration. By the same token, I don’t know what SD is planning, but I don’t appreciate one individual with no insider ties that we know of, stringing people along about some plans he has to move things along because he thinks they aren’t happening fast enough before the election. (If I’m mistaken about the plans or stated intent, people can set me straight on it.)

        Such actions could be a colossal mistake. And as I write, I believe Q and the team know and will not be sabotaged. But having to deal with this kind of thing would take energy away from other things that those close to the president could be doing, and I resent such efforts by people who are not elected, not appointed, not on the inside, and not approved for such missions. A real insider would not be telegraphing his intent to his loyal followers — which in many cases would amount to leaking; he would just act, often without credit.

        For the record, there is a difference between expressing an opinion and causing division. I want all true patriots to succeed because they are fighting for America’s best interests and for her founding principles. At the same time, we don’t have to all agree 100% of the time about the tactics used.

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    2. Whenever these posts come up I feel compelled to repeat what I have often said in the past.

      I wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for SD, because I wouldn’t have “met” The Wolf and others had it not been for CTH.

      SD’s true value is in the depth of his research and the unwavering focus he brings to many specific topics…

      …much of which simply cannot be found elsewhere, save for his blog.

      In fact, I give SD the credit for my own “political awakening“, in that what I know, understand, and realize today as hard, important truths is vastly different (and far better) from what I thought I knew and understood PRIOR to discovering CTH.

      Sidney Powell herself is a long-time (and current) CTH reader. And SHE is, of course, DIRECTLY plugged into and with Gen. Flynn, who was talking about a “digital army” before Q ever made his/her/their first post. Moreover, she has a brilliant, erudite mind. If a person like Sidney Powell finds CTH valuable, and she does, in my humble opinion that speaks volumes.

      That all said, I don’t take SD’s word as gospel 100% of the time. Yet he unquestionably helps me to be better informed about topics I consider to be vitally important…even when/if I may personally disagree with something he wrote.

      And this, too, must be said. SD:

      1) loves the Lord and his son Jesus
      2) has the same beliefs and opinions re: our beloved Republic that we here do
      3) is unquestionably an ardent supporter of PDJT and his exceptionalism
      4) is a passionate promoter and supporter of the conservative movement
      5) has done FAR and away more than I (or any of us here individually) have done at this VITAL point in our nation’s history in service to #3 and #4 above.

      None of this should be construed as implying that I don’t have my issues with SD. I myself was banned at CTH simply for coming here to say hi to posters (like Wolf) who had been banned at CTH. But like Wolf, I believe that this may have either been for the best and/or even perhaps even necessary in the grand scheme of things.

      After all, the Lord moves in mysterious ways, and his ways are often inscrutable.

      At risk of stepping on some toes here, I think refusing to read CTH…at all…is akin to chopping off one’s toes despite having the desire to walk. But, that said, to each their own. As for myself, I am not going to allow my personal disagreements with SD (my feelings) interfere with my need to have a deeply and well informed opinion of what has been and is now taking place in/with America (my logic). Like it or not, SD has been a stellar documentarian of this, and he still is.

      You don’t have to like or agree with his style, per se, but ignoring the information he collects and highlights means being less informed, overall, than I care to be.

      As ever, YMMV.

      PS – As usual, I agree with most of Wolf’s take on SD and CTH. I say this as I’m not going to repeat so much of what he has already said, and repeated, many times on this topic, including in yesterday’s discussion.

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      1. Excellent post FG&C.

        So much of it echoes my awakening, how I ultimately got here and treasure this site, Wolf and every poster.

        If I were to ignore CTH and SD, it would contribute to my NOT being informed. Sort of like intentional blinders. Not an intelligent position for me to follow. IMHO.

        Difficult times we are navigating. Divisiveness is NOT helpful to our cause.

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        1. Indeed.

          And a few are allowing themselves to engage in it here. The EXACT same kind of division that cost us Daughn, who was a HUGE loss, the reasons for which I will never forget.

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    3. “What if some actions taken by SD (or anyone else) would sabotage the plan?

      Forgive me, but…

      Don’t you think that China, the DS, the EU, and the democraps have been doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR COLLECTIVE POWER to do that??

      And you wanna FEAR that SD could succeed where they have failed???

      Am I reading this right??

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    4. FWIW, SD retweeted The Oath and #WWG1WGA last week. I saw that retweet in the sidebar and it shocked the heck out of me. THIS is the same SD that banned me for saying, “I believe Q is the real deal”? Part of me hopes he was recruited by white hats to force the Obamagate issue, and the other part cautiously remembers Q’s “all assets deployed.” We’ll see.

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        1. It happens to me, too. I post something I find elsewhere only to discover later it was already posted. I don’t mean any disrespect when it happens.

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      1. He did?

        Well, it is all the rage on Twitter.

        Something else to consider when it comes to a personality like the one that emerged with SD is that such people do not care to lose influence.

        I wonder if there’s some of that now that we’re two and a half years, almost three now, removed from the beginning of Q.

        That being said, I will echo FG&C on the point that without SD we all wouldn’t be here. Where we diverge is in what we brought to the table in the first place and how that influences opinion formation.

        That’s why such discussion boards can be a great thing, so long as emotions are banked and not provoked.

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    5. I agree, although, I will say that we finally have a FRONT MAN in President Trump with the brains and the savvy to do his part without interfering with the rest of the operation where he is not the professional.

      As for “The Plan”…if you’ve ever worked outdoor events, you know that the planning takes a year or more just to get things lined up, and work out contingencies, emergency procedures, logistics and more. The multi-day fundraising events I used to work…the plan books were three inch binders. The one St. Patrick’s Day parade here it’s the same. You have to plan for all contingencies. The plan is not unsimilar to how surgeons, pilots and other professionals in life and death situations train. You have to be ready to react, not think about it before doing it.

      Imagine the breadth and scope of the plan to take out the Cabal. Q did say that all contingencies were considered. That means that “The Plan” on paper at this point is probably several file cabinets worth of paper. Remember when GHWB was buried, and the Q team wrote “nicely played. Allow us to counter”? Everything stalled for a week. But the planners were ready to take the blow as it came.

      Frankly, this is one hell of a show. Yes, it’s rough at times, but in the end you have to trust all will be well.

      BTW, the brick fairy left all those pallets…were any ever used? Why not? Oh, that’s right, the PLANNERS used all the tactical units in the executive branch of the government to capture them under the cover of darkness at night, and no one in the media ever asked about that.

      Alright enough from me on this.

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      1. The 3” binder….when I worked with the Miss A Pageant we had weekly planning meetings for a year prior to the event with literally an hour by hour schedule for each of the dozens of committees and overall activities from the minute the contestants arrived until through the press conference the morning following the crowning. And…daily meetings for any changes. Can’t begin to tell you just how many hundreds of times those details were looked at and refined with new information….so I appreciate your point. (Same with the space launches and all that follows…mind-boggling!)
        We had special canvas bags just to carry that lifeblood binder with us at all times. I kept one for several years just as a reminder of the depth of planning and attention to minute details involved.
        I can only imagine what the Q Team “binder” must be! LOL
        BTW, describing Trump as the front man is spot on, IMO. Of course, I think the same could be said about Obama, in most respects. One for love of country…the other for love of money.

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    6. Back here not too long ago there were posts about SD’s identity and if memory serves, one post said he’s a former Hillary supporter.

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      1. He has been posting conservative since at least 2010 and may have been liberal originally.
        The group at honeytrail came from another blog run by a liberal/semi liberal/who knows as he became unpredictable & then split again in feb, 2011 when the treehouse was founded.

        Feb, 2011 treehouse had a feel much like this treehouse. Sundance’s writing has changed through the years and his tone & attitude have undergone a marked transition.

        Some speculate he is not the sole writer who posts under the name “Sundance”. Maybe so, maybe no. However, going through the public exposure as well as learning what he has learned will change a person. Also, tones change as mission develops and one becomes focused.

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    7. Sorry, just got caught up on this that I completely missed yesterday on the early open thread and asked about later last …..did a quick read of yesterdays and this thread so I may have missed this but…

      Anyone find it odd that this crusade by SD coincides with the General Flynn Pledge/WWG1WGA twitter post?

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      1. Not when one considers that SD was, at least at one point, convinced that AG Barr’s #1 motivation was to protect the institutions (ie. DOJ, FBI, etc.) vs. seeking accountability within said organizations.

        It has actually been quite interesting to watch Sundance evolve on this specific issue. Earlier in this year he was quite certain that Barr was proactively attempting to protect said institutions in the believe that exposing the corruption within them meant they could not possibly remain standing afterwards. however, with certain actions and in particular with recent interviews, Sundance appears to be increasingly optimistic on this front. Who knows? He may be communicating directly with Sidney Powell who he has enormous respect for as she does for Sundance. this may well explain Sundance is retweeting of the post in question (pointed out by Sadie above).

        One thing is for sure. People who don’t read Sundance very much…if at all… are unlikely, if not all together unable, to see all this.

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        1. Speaking of Sundance, suggest reading today’s eye-opening article about the “17” resistance team put into place…and, how Mark Warner was so involved. Now there’s a name that I sincerely hope has a sealed indictment waiting to be opened. IMO, not only should he be removed from the Senate but sent to prison.
          Anyway, great research by Sundance and the promise of more yet to come on the topic of the FISA debacle.

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        2. If he’s coming around, great, but after a while, I was there to read the comments, his posts were so repetitive, and since all the commenters I sought out came here, I followed.

          There’s other things, but in this exchange, it’s irrelevant.

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    8. One thing you can’t miss in this conversation is that SD was not going to be a champion of D-Class nor let you be a champion of D-Class. Q was and Q people were. IMO that’s why many were sent packing.

      Was it a good idea to not champion what the President himself wanted? SD put up a several arguments against it. From save the institutions to we don’t know all the players involved, to we need every ‘i’ dotted and ‘t’ crossed in going after deep state.

      Truthfully I don’t know how that would of played out. We still haven’t seen full D-Class even now. The process of discovery could have likely opened the door to much of what we know now. It may of kept the House from changing hands too. It also would of rocked the Dem world and put them on defense instead of letting them ramp up an offense.

      Anyway, those are loose thoughts on the subject and we are where we are. I didn’t make a study of SD when I was there. Most of you would know better.

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      1. I must be getting old because I don’t remember SD being against declass. In fact, that would be extremely odd, given that he eagerly absorbs same and analyzes in great detail.

        In fact, one of his more recent posts points out how most missed an important recent declass.

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        1. From my notes, but these are after we left there.
          “On Declas.

          Reasons SD gives for no Delcas.
          >* Save it for Leverage.
          >* Horse Trading instead.
          >* Muh Institutions Need to Be Preserved.
          >* Nothing will come of it (prosecution wise) because there are no real investigations or investigations have been choked.
          >* Law Warfare will see to it there are no prosecutions.
          >* Nobody is paying attention and only a few are wise to what has happened.
          >* Fixes can not occur with in institutions without external pressure.
          >* It will be considered obstruction of justice.”

          Those notes were collected through out a span of time of at least a month or two.

          Now I do have other notes, but they are dated from 28 Nov which is well after the election and primarily have to do with “Saving it for Leverage”. So I could be mixed up date wise. Also Sundance qualified and defended his remarks but many argued with him.
          A problem with a look back at that is that many remarks against his views disappeared even while the thread was still hot.

          Anyway best I can do. Feel free to take my previous post as an opinion and not a certifiable fact. I’ve little enough time determine it one way or the other even for myself and is just going on what I think I remember.


            1. I’ve likely already put too many words in his mouth. However ascribing the best motive to him he wanted D class when it’s the right time. He wanted an as pristine condition as possible for both gathering the evidence and prosecuting the evidence while at the same time having a wide enough net to capture just the guilty with no wiggle room. That’s to say he didn’t want a messy prosecution and wanted a better picture of what needed prosecuting instead of relying on discovery to determine these things.
              Right now the picture is pretty much developed and we are certainly in the same mode but as you can see by all that has happened since the mid terms we’re clearly paying a price for that pristineness and now even if we get it the left having developed multiple facades is going to try to laugh it off and call it partisan politics even as we start (hopefully) to cart some of these criminals off to jail.

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              1. It takes time to prep the battlefield.

                The important thing in 2018 was holding the Senate, as Q said.

                Dems will lose the House this year. We only need 17 seats, and we’re very competitive in over twice that number.

                It a big reason why they are panicking. Once we take the House, we retake the chairs of committees.

                Investigations….with supporting documentation….and subpoenas with testimony under oath….will happen.

                They are already crapping their pants over 2021. this is what all their surrogates are rioting in the streets about.

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      1. For those with granular control over the javascript in their browsers — you need to enable (to get the page), (to load the viewer), (to run the viewer), and (which actually serves the video) to watch……,,,, , and appear to be unnecessary.

        When you start seeing the way “shiny! shiny!” slips in links to all sorts of dreck, you can’t unsee it later.

        And this is with Joe Dan, a white hat.

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        1. I won’t claim to understand all that…so it’s good that I won’t be tested on it later.

          But I thought that I had posted Joe Dan’s videos from the Utah Gun Exchange site before.
          And they embedded and displayed just fine.

          Not this time, though.

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          1. Web pages routinely include javascript. Javascript invites your browser to run a program downloaded from a website on your machine — but it doesn’t say or control just what that program does. It could be innocuous (here’s a video), or it could me a full-court press on your machine’s security. Many such programs report back information about your IP address and location, your operating system and version, your browser and version, even if that has nothing to do with the given reason that the programs want you to run them. Apps are similar — Karl Denninger found an app that reported the physical GPS location of his cellphone to a central server every five minutes….even though it was only supposed to make wine recommendations (try this Pinot Grigio with the fish!) — and it did this even when it was supposedly not active.

            With apps, you have to jump through some hoops to get them listed on Google Play Store or Apple — although Apple has been far more protective of users than Google. With javascript, all bets are off.

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          2. even if i copied it onto my palm for the quiz, I wouldn’t know what the heck it meant…lol…
            my mind sees … words, words, words, TO WATCH, words words words, AND, words, words, words, appear to be unnecessary.
            (really glad cthulhu knows what this means tho!)

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            1. There was a meme several weeks ago that said the person has washed their hands so much during the Virus, the crib notes for tests taken years were starting to appear again. LOL
              I’m with you, Pat…we’ll just leave all that to those with overdeveloped brain cells in that field and concentrate on the important stuff such as what “season” we are so we can choose the right colors to wear next to our face. 😂

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  4. Regarding SD, I’m curious if anyone else remembers this. This was back in late 2018 around the same time many of us were banned from OT. There was speculation that SD’s analysis of declass or Flynn or something along those lines got too far ahead to the point where it was threatening white hat operations, and Team White Hat asked him to stop. Sorry for being vague, but late 2018 was rough for me and that’s all I remember. I forgot about it entirely until the recent cryptic SD posts mentioned late 2018 in them.

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    1. Yes…I remember it, Sadie.

      At the time, I thought “This is Not Cool.”

      Was he that desperate to be ‘right’ about something…to the point of exposing what our good guys were doing behind the scenes?
      It made no sense.

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      1. Again…

        You don’t think the forces arrayed against PDJT couldn’t figure this stuff out without SD??

        THAT is what makes no sense.

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      2. I vaguely recall something of the sort. It wasn’t that he was against Q per se, but he didn’t want anyone to discuss Q because it might screw up The Plan. This, of course, included discussion of The Plan or even acknowledgment of its existence.

        Gradually, this got more screwed-up and paranoid to the point where people started to get banned over there because they’d commented over here.

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    2. Yeah, well, I don’t ever remembering him stopping.

      And I’d like a solid example of him doing so In support of said “speculation”.


    1. Of course, Butterfly.

      May the Lord watch over her and her surgeon, and grant them a successful operation with a speedy recovery.

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    2. I pray that all goes well for your niece! Please keep us updated.

      May the Holy Spirit be with the anaesthetist, surgeon and the nurses attending her.

      May the Lord grant your niece relief from pain and a swift recovery. This we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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    1. I’m real close to the point where he could fall down a staircase, take the elevator to the third floor, fall down the same staircase again, take the elevator again, and fall off a balcony, and I’d think he had it coming.

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    2. My first thoughts about the falls was that it may be a good excuse to “retire” from the bench since he appears to be painting himself into a corner with his recent votes. Lots of interesting dynamics in the Court these days…perhaps more than any other time in history.

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    3. What an odd picture to use of Roberts. Does not look like his usual composed self. Why use this unflattering pic? Head injury….looks somewhat off….Hmmmmmmm

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    4. I’m not saying it is him, however, the name John Roberts is on the Epstein/Lolita Express flight logs. If it is, it explains everything related to him including his past betrayals to the Constitution and law at times. The story would build for his “retirement” over the next few weeks since GM is in custody.

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      1. What if Epstein “helped” with the adoption? Sure would explain a few mysteries.

        I have a theory that the “Lolita Express” was a real-life version of “spinnaker” (Sum of All Fears).


    5. demoralize Dems have left the party because of the insanity of their leadership and now open, visible hatred for America are not going to return because of “Supreme Court”. And the left has effectively ceded centrists in this fight.

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      1. Remember, Trump is a Tsun Tzu scholar.

        “Keep your plans hidden and as dark as night, and when you move, move lie a THUNDER BOLT.”
        ” When you are near make your enemy think you are FAR away, and when you are far away make your enemy think you ARE near”

        The greatest feat Trump did was to make the Cabal THINK that he was Elmer Fudd and NOT a genius.

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        1. Oh, I don’t think the Cabal thought that at all about Donald Trump. Not at all. If they did, a few of the ringleaders would still be alive today.

          BUT, they did have their mouthpieces convince a chunk of the public that he is, and that lie is currently being dismantled.

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    1. And the intelligentsia of the left starts to turn:

      Jonathan Turley

      Omar yesterday insisted that we cannot allow people to “prioritize profit without considering who is profiting.” That question is now being raised in growing ethical concerns over Omar giving her husband’s company a massive amount of her campaign funds …

      Omar Faces Ethics Outcry Over Payments To Husband After Decrying Those Who Profit Under Our “System…
      Visit the post for more.

      8:02 AM · Jul 8, 2020·Twitter Web App

      Jonathan Turley
      Replying to

      …The story shows once again that the only defining element in Washington greater than irony is hypocrisy. If you really want to stop politicians from “prioritiz[ing] profit without considering who is profiting,” you can start with the families of politicians like Rep. Omar.

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    1. It only took the threat of tearing down a statue of a Crusader to get it started.

      And yesterday, the governor said we would not be changing the name of the city. Not that the people here would go along with that anyway. Some people still call Dillard’s “Styx, Baer & Fuller” and they were bought out in the 80s.

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  5. By the by….and just to prove I am not unreasonable….

    If anyone wants to attack SD vis a vis “exposing white hats” or his latest posts re: “forcing the issues”, it occurs to me that the most logical avenue explore in this regard is Q posts re: “those who profit from supporting MAGA” (I paraphrase here) vs. SD’s blog (which is monetized).

    Note that this is not an accusation. That said, since no one is mentioning this most obvious and potential conflict of interest, I thought I would so as to prove:

    1. I do not blindly support SD


    2. Some of his biggest detractors here seem oblivious to this (which, IMHO, calls much else of what they have said [and say] into question).

    It will be amusing to see who, like a horse, takes this particular bit and runs with it.

    Any guesses as to who that might be?

    You don’t have to answer that. We all know.

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      1. Yes. Making false accusations without proof….namely…

        That SD “outing” former acting AG Matt Whittaker was “damaging” to “the white hats” (and, by inference, PDJT).

        We’ve heard the accusation, but we haven’t seen any evidence in support of it.

        Not only is that bad argument, it makes it a baseless accusation of exactly the kind which the left regularly engages in against all of us and most particularly our president, which we all detest. if any of us engages in doing the same thing, that makes us a hypocrite.

        I myself was accused by Wheatie and one or two others recently for “outing” Thomas Wictor as Carlos Osweda. suggesting I had “damaged” him by inarguably proving the two were one and the same. Needless to say, as soon as I pointed out how Wictor had made it quite easy to connect himself with his nom de guerre, and in so doing proved that he wasn’t too concerned about being outed as Thomas Wictor, they had nothing left to say.

        All of this is quite useful in pointing out a few hypocritical, divisive accusers within our ranks and how they go about it. Exactly the kind who cost us Daughn’s participation here at Q Tree, in fact…one in particular….and sadly people fall for it. As they have today with SD.


        1. “I myself was accused by Wheatie and one or two others recently for “outing” Thomas Wictor as Carlos Osweda. suggesting I had “damaged” him by inarguably proving the two were one and the same.”

          Wasn’t me.
          Where is your proof of this accusation…because as I recall, I agreed with you that he was one and the same.


      1. Not necessarily, but that isn’t really the issue.

        The issue is that Q, for example, offers clues, hints, tidbits, and ask questions in support of the Maga movement without any expectation of renumeration. Therefore, motive is pure and untainted. monetizing one support for the Maga movement has the potential to opening the door to questioning one’s real motivation for supporting the Maga movement, and therefore true authenticity and sincerity.


              1. Hi, Patty! Oh, dear – sounds like a personal problem – suggest volumizer shampoo – some people have that problem all of their lives – same thing with greying hair – met a 19-year old with a full head of grey hair – hereditary – and yet – we are all ‘special’ and ‘unique’ in God’s eyes – God loves you no less now than He did when you were born – God is Great in His Gifts!!!

                May the sun shine inside and outside – I pray – Have a Blessed Day, too! Hugs!!!

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              2. giggle…I have A LOT of hair–it’s shorter now, but even with it falling out I still have thicker hair than most younger people…my stylist says I give her job security…lol…but Dad’s hair turned gray overnight at 16…each if us kids, on our 16th spent a sleepless night waiting to see if it would happen to us…it didn’t.
                guess what? hubby looked at the photos from the trail cam…we have ANOTHER raccoon…at least one more!

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              3. Strange occurrences in families – LOL

                Here we go again, eh? Hard to tell him from the others – they all look the same – LOL

                Looks like this is going to be a battle of wits all summer or until they find new ‘digs’ – what happened to the bear?

                Golly Gosh – this has not been fun at all!


              4. Maybe, the others told him – LOL –

                Hey, Patty – please watch AND WE KNOW – there are 179k Plus indictments – plus a map – 18K Plus in PA – largest number in CA – second largest in TX – Wow!!!

                I hope one of those indictments in PA is for Wolf!!! – one in CA for Gruesome – two in NY for Cuomo and DeGerman Guy in NYC!!!

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      1. OMG I want PDJT to retweet this so badly, but then again I don’t want the left to target this beautiful woman (which they most assuredly would).

        This. Was. AWESOME!! 😆

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  6. [but nothing is happening]

    Continuing to drain the Swamp in Los Angeles!

    Another councilman pleads guilty for taking bribes to help Chinese investors build property in downtown L.A.

    #ButNothingsHappening HT
    Quote Tweet

    FCCED – Financial Crimes News
    · 13h
    The former Los Angeles City Councilman Mitch Englander has pleaded guilty to taking cash, escort services, other gifts from a real estate businessman and trying to obstruct the investigation into the allegations in a pay-to-play scheme.
    7:58 AM · Jul 8, 2020

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    1. Also in the category of but nothing is happening….

      The college admissions scandal indicted more than 50 individuals, and implicated numerous universities including Yale, USC, UCLA, U Texas, etc. The investigation started as a result of information that came from an unrelated securities investigation, it’s reported. In reading about it, I noticed that the bribes to the institutions/individuals were structured as donations to a foundation…very similar to the way Epstein’s money flowed into Harvard and MIT. (Could shed some light on how Epstein’s racket worked; who was being extorted, and who was being paid.) Combine this with the light being shined on Chinese funded researchers; is it any wonder that all Harvard classes are online this fall?

      Also interesting is the racketeering indictment of Tashaki69 and his testimony against gangs. He talks about the relationship between gangs and his music career in some reports; opportunities, protection, money, etc.

      Huawei: anyone know what six companies lost intellectual property due to theft?

      All racketeering investigations…

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    Anonymous 𝑸 Patriot ★★★

    People NEED to understand that just because someone tweets out info under the #QAnon umbrella branding it as “truth” doesn’t automatically make it true!!! We must always vet info/fact check for ourselves! Blindly following others is what nearly destroyed us in the first place…
    1:34 AM · Jul 8, 2020

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    1. Yep.

      Same as accusing others of something without evidence of same….like saying SD “outing” Matt Whittaker damaged him (and PDJT by extension).

      Divisiveness comes in many forms, and if we are going to denounce the left for doing so, we should be DOUBLY careful to police our own side.

      we are a nation were accused people are assumed innocent until proven guilty. The left wants to turn this on its head and make accused people guilty unless they prove their innocence.

      that’s horseshit. and we shouldn’t be participating in it in ANY way, shape, or form.

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        1. confront your fears. Don’t run from them. Overcome them.

          That is one secret to a life well lived.

          I wish I had a $1k for every fear I’ve overcome since childhood that I was subsequently left wondering “why in the world was I afraid of that?”

          everyone who has ever lived has had this experience.

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          1. Do not doubt this is true – still makes me sick to my stomach to view anything from above, FG&C – won’t catch me jumping out of a plane, either – just not my thing – I guess.


              1. That, to me, was easier to overcome than heights – although it was a challenge – there is help and effective methods one can employ – am sure you have heard about the audience in underwear – but, there is more to speaking in front of a group – such as the adrenalin rush and how to use it to your advantage – I learned from a Master – however – I also learned you have to develop your own system and/or sequence – not true the more you do the easier it gets – even the most accomplished speakers still get weak in the knees.

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    1. An old friend….Heliotrope Bouquet is a collaboration between Louis Chauvin and Scott Joplin, published the year before Chauvin died of tertiary syphilis (which later got Joplin, as well). The first theme is a beautiful ragtime melody that completely avoids everything about any previous ragtime composition — it’s as if he took a normal piece and played the spaces in-between the notes.

      OMG! I only just now realized……DP lives by STL! Does the building for Tom Turpin’s Rosebud Saloon still stand?!? I’ll have to ask her.

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      1. From what I can tell, the Rosebud Saloon which would have been on Market Street…no, sadly. That particular part of Market Street was destroyed during the time when the U.S. Highway system was put in.

        But the Scott Joplin house is a landmark.


      2. And…I actually live about a mile from the STL city limits. That part of downtown is about 7-8 miles away.

        We do treasure rag, though. It, along with jazz, is a big part of our heritage.



    Prayer for the Nation:

    God our Father,
    Thou guidest everything in wisdom and love.
    Accept the prayers we offer for our nation; by the wisdom of our leaders and integrity of our citizens, may harmony and JUSTICE be secured and may there be lasting prosperity and PEACE.
    Through Christ our Lord.

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  9. H/T DORA

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    1. That top image…around here, houses built before the 1950s and central AC mostly have a second story porch outside of the framework of the house. They are generally screened in and are called “sleeping porches” because that was the original function. If you didn’t have one, you went to the park to sleep at night.

      We forget about that sort of thing, but people of the past had to deal with the weather just the same as we do.

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      1. yep. Many of the homes in my family still have those sleeping porches, although they have been converted to regular porches and no one sleeps in them anymore. When my siblings, cousins and I were little we did sleep out on them at family gatherings because there was no room inside the main homes. Plus the elders knew that we would stay up late into the night giggling and chatting with one another and it was easiest just to put us all outside together for the peace and quiet inside the house.

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      2. Yep. The first thought that came to mind was the song “Up On The Roof”, by the Drifters. It also reminded me of houses (at least in the south) that have wrap-around porches, screened in (to keep out the car-sized mosquitoes and other critters), and with plenty of comfy chairs, gliders, etc. to sit or rest in…

        Peace and quiet for the young’uns, and peace and quiet for their parents…


        1. It’s funny, I wrote that, and then walked out into the back yard. The two houses to the east were built in 1925 and 1926. BEAUTIFUL representations of the age, both of them, but they don’t have sleeping porches.

          The house behind us, about 1919, 1920, does, and so do several others.

          Really weird.


  10. Interesting thread that gives a guess as to the next piece to come out:… Begins here.

    1of6) November 4th, 2016. Erik prince talks about the “Insurance Policy” on Breitbart News Daily. What’s on the Weiner laptop?

    [video is here of Erik Prince talking]

    Yesterday I did a small thread which I will show a few tweets down. Why am I bringing this up from 2016? I believe it’s about to become…
    6:27 AM · Jul 8, 2020


    This thread is couched inside the one above.

    Ernie PlumleyMedium starMedium starMedium star
    1of5) October 28, 2016

    POTUS Trump-They have discovered new e-mails that pertains to the former Secretary Of State, Hillary Clinton investigation, and they are reopening the case into her criminal and illegal conduct, that threatened the security of the United States of America.

    [video in original tweet here]

    2:09 PM · Jul 7, 2020

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    1. The thread ends:

      Please friends, be patient. We are going to get to the arrests of these corrupt politicians. The people of the US have to…

      5)…be awakened, to understand for themselves what they have and are doing. They have to see for themselves how sick the DS is, before arrests are made. People ARE waking up in greater numbers. They are seeing the devastation of their policies and lack of concern for the US.

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      1. 6) If you think POTUS was hanging with people like this for fun, you’d be mistaken. The reason he met people like these is so he could gain some knowledge of their activities. It’s kind of like being an undercover cop pretending to be part of the “bad guys”, when in actuality…

        7)… you are getting info and “dirt” on people involved with nefarious activities. Trust me, that’s exactly what he’s been doing for many years prior to being elected. POTUS knows how they operate. He knew/knows how sick they are and have been.

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    Donald Trump Jr.
    What’s the excuse going to be in the end? I’ve heard this notion from friends who run in some fairly liberal political circles in NY. Those donors don’t want Biden on the debate stage with
    and for obvious reasons.
    Quote Tweet

    Raheem Kassam
    · 10m
    The New York Times is already making up excuses for Biden ducking the debates.

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    This begins as a downer from Ben Stein, but these paragraphs get a “HALLELUJAH” from me, as people like Stein are the ones that have to say it for influence in certain spheres:

    “I give you an example: a woman I have known well, a patriotic, talented woman, lives near the Federal Building in Westwood, the neighborhood in L.A. where UCLA is. Every day, there are crowds in front of her house, and they won’t let her car out onto the street unless she shows them a poster that she made herself that says, “BLACK LIVES MATTER.”

    “This is pure Orwell. Needless to say, this woman, who previously did not have a bad word to say about blacks, now hates them. I wonder how many other Americans feel the same way.

    “And it’s all based on a big, fat lie: that America is guilty of “systemic racism.” It all reminds me of what my sainted mother used to often say: the problem with America is not junk food, but “junk thought.” This phony bill of goods is being sold to America by the media and the Democrats and behind them, with axes and guns, the gangstas.

    “Guess who is now espousing this huge lie as his central campaign issue? That imbecile Joe Biden, of course. Former segregationist. From a slave-holding state. Very dumb and dishonest guy.

    “I guess he’ll ride this pink pony all the way to the White House, and then that’s the end of the Constitution.”

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    1. This hate by some blacks in the US against whites and against the US itself has been taught to them.

      Supposed “racism” in the US and the twisted Dem version of US history has been taught & is used as an excuse for dipsarity of “outcomes” v. the differences in choices/behavior that lead to the disparity of outcomes. It is an excuse, a crutch and is embraced to remove personal responsibility as well as “reason”/excuse not to assimilate into mainstream American culture, values, morals, behavior and ethics.

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  13. Yes, Tom Fitton toots his own horn a lot, but he’s getting the job done in a lot of ways.

    om Fitton
    files 2 new federal lawsuits to clean up nearly 2 million names on voter rolls in NC and PA! Leftist groups trying to intervene to stop clean up! Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections!

    Quote Tweet

    Tom Fitton
    · 14h
    #VOTERFRAUD RISK! @RealDonaldTrump is right: Dirty election rolls can mean dirty elections! Left’s plans to flood mails with MILLIONS of ballots could lead to massive fraud and Election Day CHAOS! @JudicialWatch Update on our fight for cleaner elections:

    10:07 PM · Jul 7, 2020

    Video included in second tweet:

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  14. Junior is on fire today:

    Donald Trump Jr.
    Police cars revolving lightPolice cars revolving lightPolice cars revolving light Promote yourself, censor others seems fitting for today’s Main Stream Media.

    The New York Times Dropped Millions On Facebook To Advertise The 1619 Project…While Trying To Bully Facebook Into Censoring Others.

    The New York Times Dropped Millions On Facebook To Advertise The 1619 Project…While Trying To Bully…
    The New York Times’ massive campaign to pressure social media giants into restricting freedom of information — particularly dissemination from sources other than mainstream outlets — has now kicked…
    8:55 AM · Jul 8, 2020

    Liked by 8 people

  15. Video directly linked in Q3975

    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6

    Clear your mind.



    Replying to@Kabamur_Taygeta

    It’s a Torus Energy Field symbol… Yin Yang, Plank Field Theory. Nassim Haramein, The theory of everything!
    The Physics of Spirituality | Nassim Haramein with Vishen Lakhiani

    In this talk from Mindvalley University in Tallinn, Nassim Haramein and Vishen Lakhiani talk about the science of the near future, delving into topics such a…


    1. Lifted from the Comment section:

      “Jan Kasparec
      1 year ago

      One of the most enlightened scientists alive, way up there with Campbell and Dr. Dispenza. The thing that you, dear listeners, have to read between the lines, and that Nassim is very well aware of and is not mentioning it for a very significant reason, is that all that he describes will lead to FREE ENERGY, which will mean FREE HUMANITY from the parasitical system we have in place (free energy = free food, free transport, so what do you need to fight for, vote for and go to a redundant job for?) which is employing all its apparatus NOT to let this happen, and have been doing so since Tesla came up with Tesla generators generating electricty from electromagnetic field of Earth (= free energy). Yes, everything is connected, and our minds sustain the system we have, so the way out is exactly as Mr.Haramein suggests = LOOK WITHIN. BE THE CHANGE, and WORLD WILL CHANGE. FREE HUMANITY IN THIS LIFETIME! Science WILL NOT SAVE US unless we also make a quantum leap of consciousness and leave our fear-based selfish patterns behind. Much Love to all.


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    1. Be careful about Der Spiegel: they make the NYT and Washed Poo look conservative…

      Die Welt, and are more evenhanded. Merde-Kuh is spending around €2B per year for media and “opinion shaping” endevors. And she is effectively a green, or more likely, NSDAP…

      Having said that, HCQ+Z is not an option over here; Remdesivir have bought their tickets to the party to the exclusion of almost everyone else… sigh…

      The goal of the German media (shepherded by Merde-Kuh et. al.) is to keep beautiful downtown Deutschland in a state of constant turmoil, wearing masks here, there, and everywhere (KARENS on steroids), fear everywhere, and the sheeple compliantly following and hanging on to every deceitful word that Merde-Kuh utters (dare I say, udders)…

      Kings College (and basically the British medical establishment, e.g. the NHS) are also along for the ride. The operative word here is Control.

      But all we have is CHAOS…

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    1. When there still was innocence in the general public. The guy looks like Lincoln, could have fit in the late 1800’s.

      Thanks, Dora. Fun song.

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          1. Thanks, realized that as soon as I hit send. RBG is an atheist of the first order – never met a religious issue she didn’t want to destroy.

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  16. Dude is a Whacko!!

    Kanye West’s Fourth of July declaration, via Tweet, that he was running for president lit the internet on fire, even as pundits were trying to discern how serious he was. Over the course of four rambling hours of interviews on Tuesday, the billionaire rapper turned sneaker mogul revealed:
    That he’s running for president in 2020 under a new banner—the Birthday Party—with guidance from Elon Musk and an obscure vice presidential candidate he’s already chosen. “Like anything I’ve ever done in my life,” says West, “I’m doing to win.”
    That he no longer supports President Trump. “I am taking the red hat off, with this interview.”
    That he’s ok with siphoning off Black votes from the Democratic nominee, thus helping Trump. “I’m not denying it, I just told you. To say that the Black vote is Democratic is a form of racism and white supremacy.”
    That he’s never voted in his life.
    That he was sick with Covid-19 in February.
    That he’s suspicious of a coronavirus vaccine, terming vaccines “the mark of the beast.”
    That he believes “Planned Parenthoods have been placed inside cities by white supremacists to do the Devil’s work.”
    That he envisions a White House organizational model based on the secret country of Wakanda in Black Panther.

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    1. He’s actually HELPING re-elect President Trump…

      AND he KNOWS IT…………. which is why he’s doing it.

      Those in the black community who do not want to vote DIM but are uncomfortable voting Republican will vote for Kenye… taking votes from DIM nominee (which may NOT be Biden)

      Those in the black community who have never voted and did not intend to do so, will be energized to vote for Kenye… again, taking votes from the DIM base.

      And who will really be on the DIM ticket? A black female as VP? Can’t you hear Kenye attacking their platform? Black on black, so to speak… saying what no white candidate would be able to say without heavy repercussion?

      And how about the down ballot candidates?

      Think Kenye will be silent about candidates he OPPOSES down ticket? Especially given his passion about removal of PP clinics from black neighborhoods?

      Think what his candidacy will do for black males… what pride they will feel. (zero never made them feel proud)

      AND there’s the possibility he may throw his support to POTUS just BEFORE the election…

      Who knows?

      I see his candidacy as a positive… jes sayin’

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    1. I don’t think I can make myself wade through that opinion, so . . . a question.

      Is the ruling clear that it applies only to “religious organizations”, such as a church or denomination affiliated organization, or can it apply to a “religious employer”, where the employer, such as the owner, objects to offering medical coverage that includes abortions?

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      1. It looks like the government can’t force anyone to provide it. “Religious or moral objection” is the phrase used.

        I couldn’t read Thomas’s opinion. Alito’s is easier on the eyes, but focuses on religious organizations. Haven’t looked past that.

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        1. Thanks. Having the ruling apply to Hobby Lobby or My Pillow or other non-religious affiliated organizations will make this ruling a lot more effective in tamping down the “right” to kill your unborn baby.

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  17. Meanwhile, in Albany, Cuomo is now blaming health care workers for the spread of civic in nursing homes:

    Did he forget that it was his policy to allow covid exposed/positive workers to continue to work until he changed the policy at the end of April?

    This article has a link to the policy document.
    More on this horrendous policy, and it’s impacts upstate:

    Learn more about Hornell Gardens, a Hurlbut Care Community. Hornell Gardens transferred “negative” patients to a clean Hurlbut facility in Waterloo. The Waterloo facility discovered infections shortly after.

    Here’s a copy of the policy document:

    Click to access doh_covid19_essentialpersonnelreturntowork_032820.pdf

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  18. So no education but they are going to take those tax dollars.

    More than a million New York City students will return to school in September on a staggered schedule of two- and three-day weeks, officials announced Wednesday.

    Mayor Bill de Blasio and Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza announced the “blended model” plan, which involves a mix of in-school and remote learning.

    “For the vast majority of kids and the vast majority of schools, you will be going to school to either two days a week or three days a week, depending on the week,” de Blasio said at his daily coronavirus press briefing.

    The rest of the days, the students will have remote learning — which families can opt into completely if they choose, Carranza said.

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  19. A primer from a Q helper account: It begins will this, and I’ll put the relevant replies below.

    Morpheus 78
    Another BS story. This one smells like GITMO. Are you seeing the pattern? Pedophile billionaire Bing kills himself. Justice Roberts falls, badly gashing his head after walking, and now this…. and all conveniently after SDNY Berman is fired and Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested? Thinking face
    Quote Tweet

    KOMO News
    · 13h
    Mary Kay Letourneau, who made headlines in the 1990s for an affair with her underage student, has died after losing a battle with cancer.

    10:42 AM · Jul 8, 2020

    Morpheus 78
    Replying to
    They changed their headline now to rape after many protested on Twitter to their pedo-enabling headline.

    Morpheus 78
    Once a pedophile always a pedophile. The media used this pedophile rape-story and romanticized it as a teacher-student love story. They used it to normalize pedophilia as child-love. You can’t rehabilitate a pedophile. You can only end it by ending the perpetrator. Cancer?

    Morpheus 78
    Under a Trump presidency pedophiles are taking L’s like it’s out of style. I’m not buying this story at all. A lot of pedophiles and adrenochrome junkies are kicking the can these days, since Trumps EO in December of 2017. Not a coincidence.
    Morpheus 78
    John McCain also had “EYE CANCER,” and he and his MCCain Foundation were child trafficking scum for the Deep State. The media said he died of “eye cancer” but John Kasich slipped and said he was executed.

    Morpheus 78
    If you read the story you will find that this media company is a Sinclair company: an Illuminati company whose owners are Luciferian pedophile Epstein customers. They call it sex with a minor. It’s rape. And dying of cancer? Right after Maxwell’s arrest? Thinking face

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      1. There is a video (Morpheus included it in the thread) of John Kasich saying McCain was “put to death.” Also, there’s a couple of Q drops that indicate this is what happened, since Q gave the EXACT date and time to the minute when McNoname would expire.

        “Ever dog has his day” was one phrase used, and what do you know, the senator died on National Dog Day.

        John McCain’s Day is Coming
        30 Jun 2018 – 3:46:19 PM
        30 Jun 2018 – 3:40:09 PM
        Please do not let No Name off the hook. he is a disgrace to Veterans across this great country and needs to be held accountable.
        Think SC vote to confirm (coming).
        No Name action.
        Every dog has its day.
        Enjoy the show.

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  20. It’s the one issue that has common ground.

    Flag of United States 𝟜𝟘ℍ𝕖𝕒𝕕 Flag of United States ⭐⭐⭐ Flag of United States
    18 children rescued or saved from exploitation!

    65 bad guys arrested for manufacturing and or distributing child pornography and or child exploitation materials.
    FBI’s Op. Kick Boxer leads to arrest of distributors, makers of child sex abuse materials
    MILWAUKEE — An FBI operation dubbed Operation Kick Boxer has led investigators to identify and arrest distributors and manufacturers of child sexual abuse materials — and to recover child victims…

    10:56 AM · Jul 8, 2020·Twitter Web App

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  21. Brian has a thread:….

    Here’s why I don’t think Ghislaine Maxwell ends up dead:

    Epstein was completely disposable. He wasn’t the real power behind the throne. He was a useful pervert, nothing more.

    Of course, none of the victims see this, their belief is that Epstein was running the show.
    The FBI and the DOJ and…[I can’t prove this yet but I strongly suspect it] the NSA/CIA grabbed Epstein then spent almost a full year keeping discreet tabs on Maxwell, where she went, who she met with, who she called, who called, who exchanged emails with her, etc.
    They didn’t need Epstein to talk because he didn’t know anything they didn’t already know.

    When he figured that out, that he had NO LEVERAGE, they were gonna offer him NOTHING because they weren’t really interested in him to begin with, he killed himself.
    That’s not the case with Maxwell. SHE knows quite a bit. And during the past year they were watching her and spying on her, they got a taste of what she knows.

    So they won’t let Maxwell kill herself and they’re not going to let anybody off her either.

    More at the thread reader link above.

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