Dear KAG: 20200506 Open Thread

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Today’s Psalm, 66 or 67 depending on Translation of Scripture:

 [2] May God have mercy on us, and bless us: may he cause the light of his countenance to shine upon us, and may he have mercy on us. [3] That we may know thy way upon earth: thy salvation in all nations. [4] Let people confess to thee, O God: let all people give praise to thee. [5] Let the nations be glad and rejoice: for thou judgest the people with justice, and directest the nations upon earth.

[6] Let the people, O God, confess to thee: let all the people give praise to thee: [7] The earth hath yielded her fruit. May God, our God bless us, [8] May God bless us: and all the ends of the earth fear him.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. And this week, lots of prayers for those who have the virus, and those who have died due to it are part of daily prayer.

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616 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20200506 Open Thread

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  2. Omg.

    They are going to force people out of their homes into camps.

    Roxanne Beckford Hoge (@RoxanneForAD46) Tweeted:
    This would be a great thing for journalists to ask @GavinNewsom about at today’s presser — @MattShupePR

    You test positive for covid and the state of CA can’t trust that your family knows how to clean your one bathroom so they *remove* you from your home?? https://t.co/u1TT5rvph5

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    1. FOUND HIM!

      The man talking about “removing people from their homes” is —
      DR. ROBERT LEVIN
      Director of Public Health, VENTURA COUNTY, California

      The entire news conference, posted on youtube.com/, is —
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKf_gWrBio4
      Dr. LEVIN comes on just after the opening remarks by the (female) chair of the county Board of Supervisors.

      NOW HEAR THIS — Since Dr. LEVIN is the director of the county’s public health department, HE LIKELY CAN make it happen that people “who have one bathroom” in their home but need to be “isolated” from others in the home, due to the Wuhan Coronavirus, will be “removed” from the home and placed somewhere else for the isolation period. Dr. LEVIN is indeed hiring and training “contact tracers” (INVESTIGATORS) for Ventura County.

      County public health directors HAVE ENORMOUS, UNCONSTITUTIONAL POWERS because of the Wuhan Coronavirus pandemic. A county public health director can ORDER any number of things to happen, like closing the schools — closing businesses — ordering people to wear masks outside of their homes — HIRE AND TRAIN “CONTACT TRACERS”, like Dr. LEVIN is doing in Ventura County.

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      1. Newsom said he wants them throughout the state. Thousands. First dibs for state employees short hours.
        So if they come to the house to ask for voluntary submission and you dont answer, they track you at school at work FOLLOW YOUR GD TRACKING DEVICE IE YOUR PHONE, then force you to comply. Then they can say ANYONE is positive. Anyone.
        Cattle cars, disappearing in the night.
        Where is the President? Where us the Attorney General?
        Where is the military?
        Want to start a war?

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        1. Many people are so brainwashed that they’d hand the person over.
          Today I had to wait for a curbside order at Home Depot.
          This youngish mom dutifully masked, her mini me daughter masked and a boy maybe 10 walking to the side of them with mask off, twirling it.

          He wanted to go to the car by himself but mom says… you can’t. There’s corona virus out there. OMG..not no, a car might not see you..but corona virus.

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      2. “ Since Dr. LEVIN is the director of the county’s public health department, HE LIKELY CAN make it happen that people “who have one bathroom” in their home but need to be “isolated” from others in the home, due to the Wuhan Coronavirus, will be “removed” from the home and placed somewhere else for the isolation period.”

        No.

        He can’t.

        Yanking someone out of their home because “ other people may not be able to keep the bathroom clean“??

        No. This doesn’t even come close to passing Constitutional muster.

        No one has the authority to drag you out of your home without a legal warrant for your arrest. And that legal warrant is a CRIMINAL warrant, meaning you are suspected of having broken some criminal statute (law).

        There is no criminal law against getting sick.

        If they try to drag you from your home WITHOUT a legal warrant for your ARREST, tell them the are breaking the law under Title 18, U.S.C. Section 242, “Color of Law”, and you will file a criminal complaint against them with the FBI.

        Print this out and put it where you will remember where it is….

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    2. It seems to me that these kinds of abuses need to be stopped before they start. I understand the strategy to let it play out and reveal who the Dems are and what they will do when in power, but I just want someone to clarify deprivation of rights under color of law to all Americans. Educate us and stop the usurpation of our rights. With Dems, there is a never-ending supply of schemes for them to gain power and harm us.

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    3. Alrighty then. Can one further expect these are the same ones that will come to pick up ballots? May one assume that the persons doing this service have criminal background checks? Or might they be the felons recently released from jail? Might one assume a search for firearms will be conducted as well? Lots of mistrust in the responses and I’m sure there’s going to be link to California’s notorious Child Protective Services which is code for Child Pimping Services.

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  3. This could be why Azithromycin plays a prominent role in the Zelenko Prorocol –

    1SARS-Cov2 enables anaerobic bacteria (Prevotella, et al) to colonize the lungs disrupting homeostasis – symptoms (ARDS, septic shock, blood clots,arterial stroke) finds resonance, with key differences, in the `forgotten disease’ Lemierre Syndrome, caused by anaerobic bacteria enabled by Epstein Barr Virus.
    Sandeep Chakraborty

    Abstract

    Metagenomic studies of Covid19 patient sequencing data from different countries (China, Brazil,Peru, Cambodia) shows a pattern that SARS-Cov2 enables anaerobic bacteria (e.g., Prevotella, Veil-lonella, Capnocytophaga, Fusobacterium, Oribacterium and Bacteroides) to colonize the lungs, disrupting the homeostasis found in healthy patients. These bacteria are implicated in the cytokine storm, cause ground glass opacity in lungs and are associated with cardiac injury – all symptoms associated with Covid19. Many studies also show several bacterial infection markers – like Procalcitonin, C-reactive protein (CRP)and ferritin – being significantly high. This is also confirmed here in the lung sample from a 74 year old deceased patient, showing high levels of IFITM3, ferritin and S100 calcium binding protein. Anaerobic bacteria causing initial symptoms like persistent fever, chills, pain and later symptoms like ARDS,blood clots, arterial stroke and septic shock finds resonance in a “forgotten disease” – Lemierre syndrome (LS). Very interestingly, LS is enabled by Epstein Barr Virus – possibly by “a transient depression of T cell immunity”, and the complex interaction can “cause diagnostic uncertainty”. However, there are key differences – for example origin of LS is the jugular vein while Covid19 starts in the lungs (and thisdifference should result in Covid19 to be easier to treat). Co-infection of EBV and SARS-Cov2 leads to greater symptoms (fever, higher CRP) in a study of 67 patients. Enhanced pathogen testing kits, which include searching for these bacteria, could confirm this disruption in Covid19, and thus anaerobic-specific antibiotics could significantly help in therapy.

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  4. Government researchers changed metric to measure coronavirus drug remdesivir during clinical trial
    Death rate was eliminated as a primary outcome measure, replaced with the time it took patients to recover.

    Government clinical trial investigators changed the primary metric for measuring the success of Gilead’s experimental drug remdesivir as a coronavirus treatment two weeks before Anthony S. Fauci’s announcement that the drug would be the new “standard of care.”

    Instead of counting how many people taking the drug were kept alive on ventilators or died, among other measures, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said it would judge the drug primarily on a different outcome: how long it took surviving patients to recover.

    Death and other negative outcomes were moved to secondary measure status: They would still be tracked, but they would no longer be the key measure of remdesivir’s performance. The switch — which specialists said is unusual in major clinical trials but not unheard of — was publicly disclosed on the government’s clinicaltrials.gov website on April 16 but did not receive much attention at the time.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/01/government-researchers-changed-metric-measure-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir-during-clinical-trial/?utm_source=reddit.com

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  5. Robert Patrick Lewis (@RobertPLewis) Tweeted:
    it is Los Angeles, after all.

    The counselor / facilitator / woman who saved me after my divorce asked last week if I’d join again, so I did today(phone).

    One of the biggest lefties of the group spent 10min going line-by-line over the ridiculous pork poison pills Pelosi forced-

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      1. burying the lede here – this is a group that leans very, very, very much to the left & center left. Furious at Pelosi & MSM. If the Dems lose California…we just may get our country back.

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          1. Guarantee you that millions of Trump haters aren’t gonna go along with the “yank you out of your home just because you are sick, says the local health dept.” thing mentioned above.

            We can thank the Lord for one immutable truth….

            Leftist ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS overplay their hand.

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    1. 🙂
      2 came up quick…..
      I gambled that you would be johnny on the spot…..
      So I grabbed the 2nd one while you were busy with the 1st.
      Looks like I gambled right 🙂

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    2. Looking at some of these older photos of Michelle(and this is a good example)…she’s had a lot of “enhancing procedures” done…and by the best money can buy ‘cause they are very good. Rather ironic for someone who seems to be defined by race is erasing all the typical characteristic features of her race!

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  6. Hey, all —
    I just posted above under the video clip from Roxanne Hoge / Bobby Axelrod, the clip about “people who have one bathroom in the home” being removed to be “isolated” out of the home if necessary — I found the speaker who said this — he’s Dr. ROBERT LEVIN, the public health director of Ventura County, CA. Since he’s the public health director, he MAY WELL BE ABLE to make this happen.

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    1. Oral arguments in the Wisconsin Supreme Court yesterday….pertains to Ventura Cty and other public health directors……

      “One of the rationales that we’re hearing justifying the Secretary’s order in this case is that, ‘well it’s a pandemic and there isn’t enough time to promulgate a rule and have the legislature involved with determining the details of the scope of the Secretary’s authority.”

      “I’ll direct your attention to another time in history — in the Korematsu decision — where the [Supreme] Court said the need for action was great and time was short, and that justified, and I’m quoting, assembling together and placing under guard all those of Japanese ancestry in assembly centers during World War II. Could the Secretary, under this broad delegation of legislative power order people out of their homes into centers where they are properly socially distanced in order to combat the pandemic?”

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    2. And it appears that OHIO Gov. DEWINE wants to do the same type of thing, using FEDERAL money from the “Cares” Act to hire and train the “contact tracers” — also beginning with state employees who have had work hours reduced or are on furlough.
      Per 700WLW, Cincinnati

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      1. It’s crazy to understand that the State is obviously aware already that furloughed workers won’t be returning to their jobs anytime in the near future. CV 19 is here to stay .
        I’d normally take comfort in knowing that PDJT knows the score and will pull a rabbit out of his hat but this time..I’m not feeling it. It’s gone so far to the dark side and they’re loving it.

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    1. If all this results in guilty verdicts with probation and procedure changes and additional training for the departments involved, then I will undoubtedly produce a “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!” worthy of becoming a youtube icon for years to come.

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        1. At least in front of a Military Court charged with Treason, Sedition or Subversion.
          Then executed if guilty. READY….FIRE….AIM !!!!!

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    1. I posted summaries of two articles about the murder of Prof. BING LIU on this thread, one page back.
      It appears that Prof. LIU was on the trail of really finding out the cellular mechanism of the Wuhan Coronavirus and how it creates the physical complications that can kill people who get it.
      Make NO mistake — Prof. LIU’s murder WAS A PLANNED HIT.
      Question: Is this like a medical version of “SETH RICH”? Sure stinks like that to me.

      Liked by 8 people

        1. mollypitcher3
          No problem. Getting the story out about Prof. Liu’s murder in as many ways as possible is what’s important now.

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      1. Correct me if I’m wrong but the killer who committed suicide was another male, also of Asian decent and was found miles from the murder scene where he presumably killed himself. Meanwhile they call it Murder/Suicide in all the head lines and that makes one think of something domestic and most will stop reading at that point assuming the ‘Nothing to See Here’ mentality, thus no press for further answers from Johnny and Jane Public.

        I’m sure there is more to this story. Might even be the murderer was a hit man and was then taken out after completing the job to provide an easy answer to the investigation and to frustrate further investigation.

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      1. Hey Steve,

        I found a expanded version of the above, trimmed it up and entered it into the Media file. I entered two. One was the above image, but if you use that as a banner, it’ll clip off the top and bottom when you open your thread. The version where the eagle is not centered, I trimmed it so that when you open the thread, the eagle itself is not chopped off.

        Try ’em both. See what you like.

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        1. I’ll take a look…but based on what happened last week, unless you expanded it (which I hope you didn’t) it will be too narrow, and will be rejected.

          I want to fill in somehow; it’s already kind of blurry and expanding it would make it blurrier.

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          1. I actually test posted both of them into a draft post as the featured image and they both worked. The state that the featured image should be 1200 x whatever is only a “should”. I’ve used many that are less than that size.

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            1. OK…as I said I saw your trimmed version. It has MORE water in it to the right of the Eagle than the one originally posted. It can’t have showed up like that because of your trimming. Are you getting to some sort of original file somewhere?

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  7. The man who wants to be God…at it again~

    Bill Gates offered House of Reps $10m bribe for speedy passage of compulsory vaccine bill – CUPP alleges

    The Coalition of United Political Parties (CUPP), on Monday, alleged that it has intercepted a human intelligence report that the Nigeria House of Representatives leadership was poised to forcefully pass the compulsory vaccine bill without subjecting it to the traditions of legislative proceedings.

    In a statement issued and signed by the spokesperson of the opposition political parties, Barrister Ikenga Imo Ugochinyere and sent to DAILY POST in Abuja on Monday, the body urged lawmakers in the lower chamber to rise against impunity.

    The body in the statement alleged that a sum of $10 million was offered by the American Computer Czar, Bill Gates to influence the speedy passage of the bill without recourse to legislative public hearing, a development they averted as anachronistic, adding that the Speaker, Femi Gbajabiamila should be impeached if he forces the bill on members.

    More at https://dailypost.ng/2020/05/04/bill-gate-offered-house-of-reps-10m-bribe-for-speedy-passage-of-compulsory-vaccine-bill-cupp-alleges/

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  8. https://dailypost.ng/2020/05/04/bill-gate-offered-house-of-reps-10m-bribe-for-speedy-passage-of-compulsory-vaccine-bill-cupp-alleges/

    The Coalition of United Political Parties (CUPP), on Monday, alleged that it has intercepted a human intelligence report that the Nigeria House of Representatives leadership was poised to forcefully pass the compulsory vaccine bill without subjecting it to the traditions of legislative proceedings.

    In a statement issued and signed by the spokesperson of the opposition political parties, Barrister Ikenga Imo Ugochinyere and sent to DAILY POST in Abuja on Monday, the body urged lawmakers in the lower chamber to rise against impunity.

    The body in the statement alleged that a sum of $10 million was offered by the American Computer Czar, Bill Gates to influence the speedy passage of the bill without recourse to legislative public hearing, a development they averted as anachronistic, adding that the Speaker, Femi Gbajabiamila should be impeached if he forces the bill on members.

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    1. Molly…I just looked, and you’ve got two comments in the Spam bin.
      No idea why, they look fine to me.

      Sorry I can’t release them since I didn’t author this thread.
      DePat or Wolf will have to do that.
      I will try to let Wolf know, though, on his Plandemic thread.

      Liked by 3 people

  9. I found this interesting. We teach our son conservation, and even some preservation and stewardship of all.

    This video was actually very fair to climate change skeptics. We are skeptical of human caused global warming or even human caused climate change.

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        1. Yes, leads one to the generalization that somehow the medical community has decided there is room in that diving for dollars trough for them as well, professionalism be damned as long as they can virtue signal and grab bucks at the same time. Meanwhile going against the stream will seem to daunting to most and might jeopardize their futures, thus the silence but for a few of the better grounded.

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  10. JUST ON NOW:
    700WLW, Cincinnati, 9:30PM Eastern, news report

    OHIO “Republican” Gov. DEWINE is going to VETO a bill put forth by the Republicans in the Ohio state legislature that would LIMIT THE POWER of the state’s health commissioner, DR. AMY ACTON.

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  11. Another statement that Remdesivir has little or no effect on WuFlu

    COVID-19 patients with no symptoms might be less prevalent

    Dr. Donald Yealy, chair of the UPMC emergency medicine department, said no asymptomatic patients have tested positive for the virus in Western Pennsylvania since the hospital network last month began testing patients who come in for scheduled procedures, regardless of whether they have symptoms.

    Dr. Rachel Sackrowitz, UPMC ICU Service Center’s chief medical officer, said only one patient out of about 500 tested across the hospital network’s multi-state system tested positive for the virus under this program.

    Sackrowitz said two drug treatments are mainly offered right now. Hydroxychloroquine — an antimalarial drug previously touted by the federal government, though the Food and Drug Administration has cautioned against its use outside a clinical setting — and steroids have been offered to patients enrolled in the international study that uses artificial intelligence to determine treatment options.

    Soon three more drug treatments will be offered, Sackrowitz said. Convalescent plasma, which is the blood of patients who have produced COVID-19 antibodies, as well as vitamin C and anticoagulants are in the pipeline.

    Remdesivir — an antiviral originally developed to fight the Ebola virus — is not yet in the works. Yealy said the two studies on remdesivir have shown little to no effect against the coronavirus.

    http://www.thecranberryeagle.com/article/20200506/CRAN0101/705069909/-1/CRAN02

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        1. Would be great if Chanel asked a series of Remdesivir questions…cost, numbers in study, how many died… With a follow up on with HCQ, Zpak and Zinc use results.

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        1. Thank you!
          I started to type “$1000 per dose”…but then thought, ‘that can’t be right’.
          😏
          I could’ve sworn that I’ve heard/read the ‘$1K per dose’ thing somewhere.

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          1. Ridiculous. Chemo can cost up to 500k per rounf deoendi g on what is being treated. But this antiviral preference to the cheap easy proven mec is not for healthcare. No Good MD who isnt a bureaucrat or just basically evil would act this way.

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  12. Obviously, I am messing around on youtube while son and husband are hanging out.
    Trump supporters – opinions. Interesting to hear the variety of opinions.
    Comments – predictably far left for the most part.

    Like

    1. OK, looks good–but on saturday I was told the file HAD to be 1200×675.

      I saved the first version of this, and it’s 1073×856. I was going to reduce the height to 675 and put some filler off to the side, maybe an American flag, 127 pixels worth.

      Although the original that was posted didn’t show all that water to the right of the eagle, so I’m not sure where you found it.

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        1. Ah, good.

          I’m thinking the one originally posted might have been cropped to a square and then blown up, which is why it looked blurry to me.

          I’ll try to get over there and look at it–bandwidth is an issue until midnight my time.

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  13. This makes me happy 😊😊😊

    EXCLUSIVE: Transcripts of House Intelligence Committee interviews that have been cleared for release show top law enforcement and intelligence officials affirming they had no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, senior administration and intelligence community officials told Fox News on Wednesday.

    This would align with the results of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation — which found no evidence of illegal or criminal coordination between President Trump, the Trump campaign and Russia in 2016 — but the numerous transcribed interviews could raise further questions about committee Chairman Adam Schiff’s past statements saying that there was “direct evidence” of collusion.

    🦋🤸‍♀️”Schiff is in panic mode,” a senior administration official told Fox News.🤸‍♀️🦋

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    1. Excellent!
      Yes! This makes me happy too!
      😁

      Next…I’m hoping there will be a Reveal about how it was the Dems who were ‘colluding with Russia’.

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      1. “As the Worm Squirms”
        Shame the House is in hiding, would love to see him peppered with questions by Fox and OANN reporters.

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    2. “statements saying that there was “direct evidence” of collusion” . . .

      If Schiffty made those statements to the press or to the public, there’s probably no penalty. If politicians couldn’t freely lie to the press and the public, they be out of jobs.

      But . . . if he lied to Congress, or in a letter to the DOJ or FBI . . . now we’re talkin’.

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  14. Q said, “BOOM WEEK AHEAD.” Tonight, Hannity covered how the FBI knew the dossier was false and Mueller was appointed anyway, and how that whole cascade of events was fraudulent. Lindsey Graham is going to hold hearings (yes, I know, but it’s something). Graham says he supported having the Mueller investigation but now he knows the truth and will investigate.

    Grenell has forced Shiff to release transcripts, and Schiff’s lies are being revealed. I could get used to this.

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  15. TX AG Paxton said on Laura that since she was held in contempt, Governor Abbott can’t pardon Shelly Luther. Also since she’s only serving 7 days, there’s no time for an appeal. Only recourse is public pressure. 🙄😒

    The good news is he’s paying her fine. And her gofundme is over $500K. Also this….

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    1. Thanks…yeah, I just read that about her GoFundMe reaching over $500K.
      That’s great!

      I wish Gov Abbott would send the TX Rangers to that jail and get her out!
      😏😄

      It’s good to see Sarah Palin getting out…I was thinking the other day, that I hadn’t seen anything from her in awhile.

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  16. 4133
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 167396 No.9060298
    May 6 2020 22:40:16 (EST) NEW
    There is a reason why Congress did not return to work this week [DC][non_COVID related].
    Think [BOOM] drops this week and next [2019, 2020][+1].
    [C]oats before [D]eclas [ongoing_now].
    Q

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    1. It’s happening! Not sure what [2019, 2020][+1] means. Q 4119 referenced Q 3332 from 5/12/19, which said “BOOM WEEK AHEAD. Treason doesn’t pay well in the end.”

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    1. That looks like the same video that Q posted in 4126…just a clearer version of it.

      Hmm.
      What is Q trying to tell us here?

      Liked by 2 people

      1. “What is Q trying to tell us here?”

        Boom week related? Shock and awe?

        I recall that Muslims in Iraq nicknamed the AC-130 gunship the “Spitting Witch.” Fearsome.

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