20200408: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

579 thoughts on “20200408: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

  1. The largest regional medical center in our area just sent out an email urging people to stick by the CDC – White House Guidelines – pretty much begging folks not to go to church on Easter.

    A couple of big funerals caused Albany, GA to have over 1001 coronavirus cases and over 62 deaths – more deaths than Fulton County, Atlanta.


    1. All residents should stay home at all times, except for when engaging in essential activities as outlined in the Florida stay-at-home order. We would like to take these guidelines a step further by offering additional recommendations that have been clinically clarified as best practices for our community and beyond.

    — While religious congregations are not legally prevented from meeting, we strongly recommend those wishing to worship find alternative forums that do not involve meeting physically.
    — Whenever possible, restrict access to your home only to members of your immediate household.
    — While outdoor recreation is not an essential activity, it can be permissible if you restrict the activity to only members of your household and maintain a strict 6-foot distance from any other individuals you may encounter while outside of your home.
    — Even when adhering to these guidelines, each essential outing presents an exposure risk. Be mindful to limit essential outings as much as possible.

    2. Any individual who has symptoms of respiratory illness should immediately self-quarantine and call their healthcare provider to discuss appropriate testing.
    — Not all individuals are candidates to be tested for COVID-19. Employers concerned about an employee’s health should rely on the recommendation of the employee’s healthcare provider regarding their ability to work.

    3. All residents should continue to adhere to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) recommendations on infection prevention, including washing your hands for a full 20 seconds after touching any non-sterile surface and maintaining a strict 6-foot distance between individuals at all times.
    — Per the CDC’s recommendation, wear a cloth face covering while engaging in essential activities outside of your home. Please note, you should still maintain a strict 6-foot distance between individuals at all times, even when wearing face coverings.

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    1. Stay home and read the lesson of Passover!!! Very important! Watch services on TV – call friends – celebrate Easter – but take a lesson from the Bible! Seeing these people die from going to services is just heartbreaking.

      Listen to Trump! He is there for a reason – to protect Americans, but especially those who prayed for deliverance!

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    2. GA – that sounds like reasonable requests based on the outbreaks there. Acknowledging religious rights and not mandating the other things is certainly less onerous than some other states. The outbreaks & deaths from those funerals were sad and alarming – who knows how many others they passed it to.

      Colorado’s guidance is about like yours. Nothing mandatory but urging use of masks. Today at grocery (it was busy) I was surprised that about 1/3 of the clerks & stockers weren’t wearing masks because last week they all were! I wear mine in the store, but not when I am outdoors “rec-reating”.

      Happy Easter to your family 💖

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  2. 😃 Replies are great. Most opt for death, the virus, or Pelosi for the booze.

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  3. Dr. Scott Jensen interviewed on Laura Ingraham this evening about misleading death certs, over estimating by medical community, revealed a BOMBSHELL.
    Jim Acosta claimed these were “conspiracy theories” and Fauci allowed his claim to stand, did not clearly refute.
    From Dr Jensen:
    Completely disagreed with Fauci and Acosta.
    It’s happening.
    Medicare has coded hospital expense allowed for a CoVID diagnosed patient.
    $13K for admission for Covid patient.
    $39K allowed if they go on a ventilator.
    Alludes to money being the motivator, unfortunately.

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    1. Saw a video on twitter from a local news anchor who read the Bill. Hospitals and medical providers were allocated $100 Billion. That equates to $108,000/bed. Huge incentive for them to claim Covid diagnosis.

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  4. Laura Ingraham is having a great show tonight.

    First she had a long interview with Barr.
    Next, she had the doctor on who is blowing the whistle on those ‘pages’ of instructions that he received, instructing doctors to count all deaths as virus deaths.

    There will probably be videos of it, posted soon…for those who didn’t see it.

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  5. DOD LEAK: Feds Investigated Birx & CDC Director for “Scientific Fraud & Misconduct”; Fabricated, Falsified HIV/AIDS Vaccine Trials

    “Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the CDC, and Dr. Deborah Birx — the Coronavirus Coordinator for the White House — were the targets of a damning Department of Defense investigation after colleagues in the U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force blew the whistle on scientific fraud during clinical trials of a HIV/AIDS vaccine…Redfield, as the lead on the Army’s HIV/AIDS vaccine project, who was assisted by Birx, — according to the DOD documents, the project was plagued by manipulation of data, inapropriate statistical analyses, and falsified data presentation and publication to attempt to get a faulty vaccine approved by the FDA to treat HIV patients. “

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    1. True Pundit – as usual – doesn’t give any links to his assertions.

      This 1997 case is the only thing I could find: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/970/19/1639236/

      JOYCE HENS GREEN, District Judge.

      Presently pending is the defendant’s Motion for Summary Judgment. Upon consideration of this motion, the plaintiffs’ opposition, the defendant’s reply, the plaintiffs’ Notice of Recent authorities and the defendant’s response thereto, and after reviewing the withheld documents which were submitted for in camera review pursuant to this Court’s Orders of September 27 and November 12, 1996, the motion will be denied in part and granted in part. Disclosure will be ordered as set out in this opinion.”

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    2. Yeah, this may explain why Birx is so cavalier with the data here. We need good data, and people who don’t respect the integrity of data are often sketchy with how it gets worked up.

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      1. This is HUGE. Thank you Wolfmoon1776 for setting the standard of verifiable comments c/w with legit links, otherwise it is understood as being opinion. And both are welcomed so long as they are identified as such.

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    1. She said she will have more of the Barr interview tomorrow night.

      Can’t really blame her for splitting it up…it was a substantial ‘get’ to get an interview with Barr.

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          1. Gonna happen sweet friend!!! We F*ing did this!!! Digital warriors!!! AND POTUS!!! What a genius!!!🤗😘🥰💖–We Got this!!! Happy Easter my sweet and beautiful sister! God had the PLAN ! And Wolfie… figured.. it out!!! And brought us All together!! How …Awesome..INDEED!

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              1. Wheatie!! THat windstorm… Will NOT let me or dogs.. out the back door!! all the furniture is up against door!! What the heck!!

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  6. At least Laura has been shining a spotlight on how our Freedoms, our Rights and Civil Liberties have been taking a beating in all this.

    And also shining a light on Fauci:

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  7. If you know this guy (center left), this is BIG!

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    1. If there were data backing up the idea that the origin was not, as he said, I expect in all likelihood it would have been produced and made public.

      Instead, what we see are information suppression methods invoked.

      But it hasn’t stopped people from asking the question, if not aloud, certainly in their thoughts.

      Many many people think they have an where this came from – when I heard people speculating openly about this at the office, in a normally highly stiff politically correct environment – you know that the suppression attempt is failing.

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    1. Yep…he just said that to Shannan Bream!

      I love Kennedy!
      He was talking about Pelosi too…and struggling with what he really wanted to say about her.
      Poor guy was having to bite his tongue.

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  8. Grrr….😠🤬


    The #CDC removed several paragraphs of information about #Hydroxychloroquine from its website, including recommended dosing information.

    The @CDCgov didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

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  9. So in addition to the Class Action Lawsuit filed in Texas, Larry Klayman has filed a complaint with the Hague.

    An official with the International Criminal Court in The Hague has informed lawyer Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch that his complaint against China for its handling of the coronavirus pandemic is under consideration………

    The complaint was submitted “in the matter of crimes against humanity and genocide by development of outlawed biological warfare weapons by the People’s Republic of China.”

    Along with China and Xi,the suit names members of the politburo, the People’s Liberation Army, the Wuhan Institute, the institute’s Shi Zhengli and Chen Wei of the army.

    It alleges the defendants “failed to prevent the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s personnel from becoming infected with the bioweapon and then carrying the virus out into the surrounding community.”

    Such actions violated a number of international treaties, the complaint contends, including the “Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons.”

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    1. Good!
      I hope the ChiComs find themselves swimming in lawsuits…from all over the world!

      The USA and other civilized countries signed an agreement, decades ago…to Not Ever Use Bioweapons.

      Did China ever agree to that too?

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    1. And…right in front of a big Huawei sign.

      Was this staged?
      Can’t help but wonder, these days.

      If it was, maybe it was staged by the good guys who are against the ChiComs.

      This second tweet was the next under that one:


      Notice the 5G sign.

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      1. The guy could be a “recoveree” like me. I still have periods of lightheadesness and confusion, though not very often. My oxygen balance seems better each day. But just today I found myself trying to figure out what I was doing in a parking lot.

        I’ll bet there are tens of thousands of “walking wounded” in Wuhan.

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        1. Keep an eye on your fingernails, Wolfie.

          The ‘moon’ at the base of your nail should be lighter than the rest of the nail…if you’re getting full oxygenation

          If it appears the same color as the rest of your nail…then you are not getting full oxygenation.

          If it appears bluish…then you’re in trouble.

          That’s why ‘rescue inhalers’ were invented.
          They will rescue you when you’re having a low-oxygen episode.

          So I hope you will try taking some Hawthorne, to offset the stimulatory effects of the albuterol.
          It really works for me.


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          1. Interesting stuff. I can get it easily – just saw it in several stores.

            And you take it to offset the cardiovascular effects of antiasthmatics – right? The active component also has some other things I could use, too, and is fairly safe.

            How does it make you feel when you take it, and what kind of effects do you see overall? That’s usually interpretable as one or more pharmacological actions.

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            1. It makes me sort of sleepy, depending on how many capsules I take at once.

              Two capsules — I’ve noticed that the veins on the back of my hand get small and flush with the skin.

              So it’s lowering my BP, I think.

              I love super-strong coffee.
              And when I’ve been having some…and have to use my inhaler…then I’ve gotten a little heart-flutter sometimes.

              I take a couple of Hawthorne capsules and I’m back to normal.

              It is quite fast-acting.

              Have taken 4 capsules at times, to knock me out and get some sound sleep.

              Effects only last for about 4 – 5 hours, though.

              I have even gotten a little eyedropper bottle of the Hawthorn extract concentrated.
              It works instantly.
              But it tastes terrible!
              Good stuff to have on hand, though, for an emergency situation.

              I have never had *any* bad side effects from Hawthorn.
              None. Nada.

              Which is why I feel pretty good about recommending it.

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              1. Good…I hope you will.

                Breathing is important.

                Your heart is too, but it shouldn’t be a matter of having to choose between breathing and protecting your heart.

                I think the Hawthorn will enable you to do both.

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              2. That might be due to the oxygen deprivation.
                I dunno.

                My doctor, who is in the same boat I’m in…with seasonal allergies, allergy to mold spores…and breathing problems from having had pneumonia.

                He has stressed to me, repeatedly, that oxygen deprivation can affect our other organs.

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              3. Nah.
                I can tell when I’m getting oxy-deprived.

                Dizziness, confusion, gasping for air.

                It’s kind of a yes/no thing with me.
                I don’t need to know how much; I can feel it.

                My doc has said that he can write me a script for an O2 concentrator, if I want one.
                For emergencies.

                But I don’t think I’m there yet.

                I do have a nebulizer, which I use sometimes.
                It pumps out a lower dose of the albuterol, in a fine mist.

                The effects of a nebulizer are more long-term than what you get from an inhaler.

                You might think of getting one of those.

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              4. We’ll have to see. Albuterol seems like it might help me under rare circumstances of airway closure, but it doesn’t seem to do anything about the basic hypoxia, which strikes me even with clear lungs and easy breathing. I may try it again for the hypoxia, one more time, just to verify.

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            2. Oh…and BTW…

              Notice that the one I take, the GNC brand, is only 150 mg.

              That is pretty low dosage.

              Notice that the Swanson one is 500 mg.

              Two capsules of the GNC is still not as strong as 1 of the Swanson.

              I like GNC’s herbal stuff because it is usually always fresh and potent and all natural.
              ….It’s a little pricey, though.

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              1. Pricey is OK for the first try of anything!!! 😀

                I’m always careful with meds. No cheaping out to fund the Clinton Foundation for this kid!!! 150 mg of quality stuff sounds very safe.

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              2. Well, GNC has a nice online store.

                So if you don’t wanna make a trek out, you can order it there.

                They ship out rapidly…and you can opt for overnite delivery, if you want it.

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