20200407: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

499 thoughts on “20200407: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

      1. Honestly, I think he needs a chair. He was falling asleep up front.

        I wonder, I don’t know if “stage” is the right word but what do I know 😉

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    1. Linda I seen this earlier and I have a thing with reading the comments, 99% of all the comments are from WOKE people and it was a thrill to read em all…
      Q said these people wont be able to walk down the street lol not even their media mouthpiece….

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    1. Yeah, I’m praying that POTUS is hearing about the numerous medics refuting ARDS and pointing to oxygen deprivation. The ventilators sound like a death sentence, altho with our high comorbidity rates, it’s hard to say if some people can be saved under any circumstances. The REAL key is still getting EARLY treatment with hydroxy combo.

      But I hope he has someone telling him what docs are finding about the danger ventilators are posing by misdiagnosis.

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      1. We’re still drinking tonic water. Quinine and the original CQ drug came from the same place, so…. Hoping it’s prophylactic even if it’s poo pooed by the CDC, FDA and other vaccine centered government entities infested with DS actors.

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            1. You’ll probably get your check faster that way. If there’s a place on it to put your bank info (even tho’ you’re not owed a refund), the IRS might pick it up & do direct deposit.

              I’ll still keep looking. Might not hurt to try both!!

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    1. can you blame him ? the man is under so much stress (understatement) from all sides, relentless from the effing Left…I don’t know how he can handle it but I know he can…if anyone can, he can…

      but he’s only human….he needs our earnest prayers…and GOD’s Help thru this relentless attack..

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      1. No telling what he’s dealing with besides this virus. The US Navy for example…. and all the betrayals, deceptions and skullduggery he’s endured and exposed.

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  1. POTUS talking about WHO now – talking about how US supports them, they are China centric, denied info early on and criticized President Trump’s actions, etc. They Really messed this up – should have known …. maybe did know.

    Wow – he is attacking. Putting $ on hold and looking into it

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    1. This is part of the reason why the idea of targeting is interesting in the larger scheme of things. Elites are notoriously racist even if they claim they aren’t.

      The other thing about African-Americans is the number of them who still smoke is a higher percentage than whites.

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      1. I live in a poverty stricken Appalachia ad one sees here the same problems as in black communities.
        Poverty brings on a lot of diseases, heart, and diabetics. Smoking heavily is another problem and diet.
        Lack of healthy foods.

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  2. Focusing on our economic strength, small businesses

    #americaworkstogether

    to share stories of us all working together

    praising our mitigation and our fellow American’s willingness to do our patriotic part to slow the spread

    praising first responders, medical workers and general Americans for what we are accomplishing together

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  3. He is focusing on the reopening of the economy. He is hoping to open up strong – stimulus that includes infrastructure – real infrastructure this time

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  4. Addressing that he was concerned as could be seen by his actions such as travel bans.

    Gotcha questions, ugh

    Interesting that most of his admin or the whoever the people were in the meeting, didn’t want to close down travel

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  5. Asking gotcha numbers on African American’s being disproportionately affected.

    Me – is a connection to compliance in the areas where we see the infections? Is it a rate of infections in the same areas or a greater infection rate in the same locations?

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    1. We’re seeing that here. North county, which is very African-American centric, is one of our hot spots. metabolic diseases are part of the way of life up there. So is smoking, still.

      I can’t imagine that this isn’t part of it.

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        1. And HORRIBLE eating habits. The young black children I see who are morbidly obese, children under the age of 7, is enough to make you want to cry.

          It is that blasted food pyramid again.

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  6. “reporters” in the room are now asking for colleagues who are not in the room. they are not announcing for whom specifically they are asking questions. questions coming from essentially anonymous sources. no accountability

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  7. Q: Wisconsin voting – taking their chances with their health to do their civic duty…was SCOTUS wrong to do this?

    President Trump – Dems didn’t want to move the election until after I endorsed Kelly. Plus, worse, they wanted to Cheat, Dems are cheaters, they wanted a full week after the election! Mail ballots are corrupt

    POTUS calling them out!

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  8. There was a murder/suicide not too far from me yesterday. An ex Marine who lost his job due to the Communist shutdown, unable to provide, killed his family then himself.
    Is this an acceptable outcome to anyone for “the greater good?”

    I dont blame POTUS. Deaths that are attributed to covid and deaths as a result of dictates, loss of sense of self and control over your Independence and Destiny, are entirely different.

    I said domestic violence is rising here, alcohol use is way up. And the kids.. what about them in unstable homes going unreported?
    No more games.
    No kid deserves to be murdered by a desperate parent with what seems like no where to go, no help to obtain, no job, no income, and constant threats from the state and local governments to stay isolated.

    The cure must not be worse than the disease!!!

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  9. Q: with pills donated is there a system in place to track the side affects, the negative outcomes from this medicine?

    POTUS: side affects are mainly from zpack. discusses MI representative on the news who took it

    me – trying to get POTUS on gotcha, trying to tie any negatives from med to POTUS.

    POTUS: making point that some side effects are better than dying, the effects of Wuflu worse than the meds…meds around a long time There are many of these stories. worth trying

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  10. POTUS – get dr. recommend the med, mentions so many good stories from the meds, case study is almost complete in the NY, mentions med. workers taking protectively

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  11. now on IGs

    POTUS: Reports on now on IGs in ’17 that are biased. Putting in 7 names for IG.

    Q: WHO – China centric, what do you mean?

    POTUS: how did WHO not report what as going on? they seem to always come down on the side of China

    Q: are you responsible of people become ill after voting in Wisconsin today

    What a BS question. Insert Wolf langauge here.

    Q: how does holding election line up with social distancing
    A: ask WI Dem gov, its run by Dems there

    “reporters” are working hard to pin blame for anything/everything

    OMG Classic – “reporter” tried to ask Q, POTUS asked details on the issue, “reporter” didn’t know so POTUS skipped him since he didn’t know what he was talking about. guy turned red and was embarrassed

    INCREDIBLE

    NO OTHER GOP would have done that LOVE this man!

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    1. Knew that moment mentioned above would come out in a clip asap.

      But he is so correct – “reporters” ought to take the time to be informed on the topics and ask quality questions v. always with the negative spin and gotcha angle

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      1. I can see now why some are saying PDJT’s tie was “turquoise”.

        In the panned out footage…his tie looks turquoise!
        But in the closer footage of the podium…it looks more like a signal blue.

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  12. Q: did you absentee vote for FL election last month? if so how/why are you critical?

    Not the same – he is talking about a week later after election

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  13. OAN standing in back corner and again asking a question

    Payroll tax cut as an action to help right now? yes, he wants to do that

    What is stopping it? Democrats

    What are there reasons? IDK…discusses

    She sets them up and he slams ’em! excellent

    And he ended with her questions

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      1. ooops…right when you type that I was posting trashy but funny videos at utree. ha caught playing hooky

        “reporters” are nicer to Pence and all others + probably not as much breaking news now that POTUS is gone so I took a break … busted! ha

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          1. If I am watching, as long as I feel well enough, I figure why not? Sometimes I can’t watch but can refresh and check comments and I appreciate others doing it.

            Glad to know it is not a waste of my time. happy to do it. most are not direct quotes unless I use quote marks. Not as fast a typist as I was back in my transcription days! 🙂

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  14. Pence now and then he will have Birx speak. POTUS has left the stage and room completely.

    Pence is great at polititalk as POTUS pointed out on camera last week or the week before.

    *Stabilization* of #s in hot spots – not decline yet. Evidence mitigation is working and American people are doing a great job.

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    1. DP, I think she has a strong measure of professionalism, and attempts to maintain despite possible conflict.
      She does do a pretty good of of explaining what it is they are trying to do…even if we may not always agree actions are correct.
      Pravda pays no attention either way.

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    1. At what point does the amount misery caused by untreated “non-essential” health issues, job loss and financial insecurity, isolation, and loss of rights and normalcy outweigh the effects of the Bill Gates Virus? It’s like we’re not even allowed to ask that question.

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      1. I know what you’re saying Sadie, and I agree up to a point…

        The Bigger Picture is that this was all a coordinated attack TO STOP TRUMP FROM BEING REELECTED.

        Nothing else was working.

        The Cabalists and the ChiComs had tried everything else…and none of it was working.

        They were desperate.
        So they pulled out all the stops…and launched the Big One.

        They were desperate to Stop Trump Rallies.
        This did it.

        They were desperate to Kill the Great Economy.
        This did it.

        They were desperate to make Trump look cold hearted and unsympathetic.

        Trump has made this backfire…by going to great measures to protect us and keep us safe.

        Yes, it has had disastrous effects on the economy.
        But that would’ve happened without Trump’s recommendations and policies.

        We are in a Silent War…as Pres Trump keeps saying.

        It is a War against him.
        It is a War against us, too.

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      2. We cant wait forever. We will die. It doesnt matter if it was a plot or not. Day 17. The peaks are supposedly being calculated and we should have hard data by monday. But no….this is not a long term thing unless the destruction of the U.S. is the goal……oh, wait….

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      1. When my mom had her hip replaced, several of us had it all planned out for who was going to be where. The surgeon called because there was an opening a week early and she took the opportunity.

        All plans kablooey and Mom was like,but you all were going to be available. Mom, the date was changed.

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    2. Probably not a good time to be in a hospital environment, anyway…especially at age 84…especially surgical procedures, especially orthopedic.

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      1. Most hospitals that do joint replacements have the patients in a confined space with the rehab rooms on the same floor. I’m not so worried about that. I am worried about an 84 year old woman who lives alone in a 4500 square foot house falling, though.Her closest child is over an hour away.

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  15. Healthcare companies being hit SO hard. She is talking exactly what we have been experiencing for weeks. 10% across the board (not clinical) pay cut and 20-30% for higher earners and lay offs…all while working Very long hours to be prepared for surge of patients. But they have pulled it off and emptied beds, streamlined processes, set up processes to shift to hot spots within their system, shift workers, etc. this is husband’s company but all are going through same as they have prepared, buying supplies, equipment, etc., while taking a Huge hit on income.

    She is speaking to accelerated payments to help healthcare companies. Essentially loans as preparing what typically they bill in a particular time period.

    30 B – in grants, no strings attached. Can spend without strings. Good – got to keep our healthcare companies stay strong and be able to go back to all functions quickly as surgery passes.

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  16. Dr. Fauci emphasizes the health disparities in medicine with the African American community. He emphasizes that once we get out of this crisis – and we will get out of this crisis – that we really need to put attention to correcting that.

    Pence responds “well said” as Fauci steps from the podium.

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    1. they are addressing this issue with seriousness, dignity and caring concern. Good.

      silver lining? More of us will be aware of germ hygiene for ourselves and to protect others going forward – save lives in future flu seasons?

      Same with more awareness than even if one has a disease like high blood pressure/diabetes that is “controlled” by a pill it is still damaging your body. Maybe make people more aware and responsible for their own health?

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      1. First the medical community needs to quit thinking that medication is the solution to everything. Until we start getting diets fixed by removing the junk and focused on healthy whole foods, nothing is going to change.

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        1. don’t know that the medical community will ever move to that as their methodology….but *we* can while knowing what role the medical community plays

          maybe part of the shift is to move individuals in how they think of the medical community and their valuable but limited role in our health

          hard shift for some. comes back to individual responsibility

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        2. Diet is a personal responsibility. Exercise is a personal responsibility.

          ONLY, consumer focused “supply and demand” can change the food and drink folks choose to buy.

          Government is NOT the solution.

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      2. The reason those disparities exist are because of Democrats.

        Unless of course, they want to destroy the entire health care system and reduce quality of care to the lowest common standard – then there is no disparity when all are treated like cattle in a socialist system.

        If the Dems were serious about fixing health care they would be working with Republicans to do it – but they NEVER do. They only want to control it and make it worse. Obamacare was their Step 1 dream and it was a TOTAL DISASTER. They have had ten years to “fix” medicine and they still have disparities where people are still uninsured, Medicare/Medicaid is still an ugly nasty mess that treats people badly, and we still have these massive “inequalities” in outcome that they claim to oppose.

        As far as I’m concerned this needs to be repeated early, loudly, and often. The Democrats had a chance to fix medicine and they BLEW IT. And they still don’t want to partner with Republicans to fix it – NOT AT ALL.

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        1. Senator McGovern was running the committee that passed the dietary guidelines. Had all the experts testify and make their recommendations. But the committee eventually went with Hi Carb/ Low Fat mainly because that is what McGoverns personal doctor recommended for him.

          And that is how the obesity epidemic started.

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          1. Fats completely wrong as well – plant based fats ok but we need animal fats too. and margarine…total disaster.

            Soy has been mentioned by several recently – Horrible food to have inserted into our food system as both a fat and as an animal feed.

            And big Ag for animals and grains…so many problems in our food supply!

            Get gov out as they have twisted our eating habits, erased generations of knowledge re: food, food preparation and kitchen gardening and “reeducated” us incorrectly.

            Anyway, back to Wuflu….

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  17. Per http://www.wbtv.com/

    Researchers from UNC – chapel Hill, Emery University, and Vanderbilt University, announced that they have collaborated in developing a new drug to fight the Wuhan Coronavirus.
    The drug is called EIDD-2801.
    It has already performed well in trials on mice and human volunteer trials will begin a few weeks.
    It is hoped that pending success in the human trials, the drug can be made available for human use in a few months.
    The drug works by inhibiting the replication action of the virus once it has entered into the inner cells of the lungs.
    This would make the drug usable for other serious viral lung infections of the SARS and MERS types.

    My opinion:
    Hopefully, this drug is a success. It would be an alternative to Bill Gates’ MARK OF THE BEAST VACCINE.

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    1. Looks hopeful – https://www.wbtv.com/2020/04/07/unc-chapel-hill-scientists-hopeful-new-anti-viral-drug-can-treat-covid-/

      Quote:
      “When given as a treatment 12 or 24 hours after infection has begun, EIDD-2801 can reduce the degree of lung damage and weight loss in mice. This window of opportunity is expected to be longer in humans, because the period between coronavirus disease onset and death is generally extended in humans compared to mice,” UNC-CH’s release said.”

      The Japanese antiviral drug had to be given in early stages in order to be effective. Let’s hope this one can help late stage patients.

      HOWEVER – HCQ/Zinc/Zithromax is ready NOW – and – HAS helped people at ALL stages of CV-19!!!

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      1. Plus – the side effects/long term effects/drug interactions/allergic reactions of this new drug are yet unknown, whereas, HCQ has been in use a long time and its properties/side effects are very well known.

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      2. Well, since UNC helped the Wuhan Bio-weapons lab DEVELOP THIS BIO-WEAPON, I imagine they are well aware of how it actually works.

        A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

        Place the cursor over a name and it will tell you what university/lab the person is from.

        Zhengli-Li Shi, and Xing-Yi Ge are from the Wuhan lab

        Vineet D Menachery, Boyd L Yount, Jr, Kari Debbink, Lisa E Gralinski, Jessica A Plante, Rachel L Graham,1 Trevor Scobey, Eric F Donaldson, Ralph S Baric and Scott H Randell, all from UNC

        Wayne A Marasco, from HARVARD

        Sudhakar Agnihothram from the FDA

        Antonio Lanzavecchia, Switzerland

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  18. She mentioned backlog as hospitalized patients take precedence over drive through tests.

    in all hospitals they is probably a disparity between known, published WuFlu in the hospitals and surge in patients in the hospitals because of WuFlu

    I base this on several state’s stats and esp. CA which is in the public domain

    About a week ago, CA started reporting how many confirmed WuFlu cases hospitalized + how many in ICU. Just as interesting is that they are also posting how many are hospitalized and how many are in ICU that are waiting on test results. When we see stats for how many WuFlu are hospitalized – those are only confirmed cases. More people are already hospitalized and are in ICU that are not listed as WuFlu cases because confirmation tests results are not yet known.

    there is a lag between confirmed cases in the hospital and the # hospitalized as we see via CA publication of stats.

    Example:
    https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-046.aspx

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  19. Q: Deaths being misreported…

    Birx: straight forward to reporting here in the US
    She talks about some countries reporting WuFlu causing heart damage/issues being listed as a heart issue v. WuFlu other countries are saying it is heart issue v. WuFlu which caused the complication/heart issue

    VERY interesting – she mentioned that deaths in Jan and Feb might not have been caught. Antenna went up on that comment!!!

    She is much more worried about missing some WuFlu in deaths v. overexerting.

    She wants to know what caused/did WuFlu cause the complication/issue that caused death.

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  20. CDC will be doing more studies, learning more where testing is, will be more involved across the health care system for testing etc. post WuFlu

    Emphasizing that all mitigation is to protect your health but also protecting Everyone else’s health.

    Thinks next school year and upcoming time will be semi normal…actually encouraging for the upcoming post Round 1 with Wuflu

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    1. I knew there was something fishy about this BIG PUSH TO GET OUR DNA that’s been going on the last few years!

      Some companies have even been giving out “Free DNA Tests”…like it’s a gift or something.

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        1. Yeah, the early commercials for that ‘Twenty-Three and Me’ company…the first DNA-test company that started doing an ad blitz…tried to make it seem like the New Cool Thing.

          It was laughable.
          But apparently some sheeple fell for it and paid $99 for their vewwy own DNA report.
          🙄

          Then some other DNA-testing companies sprouted up and started advertising too.
          The false narrative had already been created.
          It was ‘cool’ to get a DNA test.

          They ought to be paying people for handing over their DNA to strangers!

          But nooo…the sheeple think it’s ‘cool’.

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          1. One of my brothers did the 23 and me thing. Interesting results, but none of the rest of us were that stupid. Of course, the one who did it is an engineer and is a retired Marine pilot.

            One of these days, I’m going to go all big sister on his six and tell him off on this and any number of other things.

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            1. And you’d have every right to, DePat.

              Especially since his DNA is essentially the same as yours, right?

              Except for the X and Y chromosomes, I think siblings DNA is the same.

              So he didn’t just give his *own* DNA to strangers…he gave away yours too.
              😬😕

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              1. Yep. Mine, our sister’s and other two brothers.

                Really, the five of us are a study in the wonders of the genetics crap shoot – five different eye colors, body types, hair colors, personalities, etc. – but where we came from is the same.

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              2. Heh…same with me and my siblings.
                😏

                Even different skin types.
                One brother looks like our Cherokee ancestors, with black hair and reddish skin.

                Two other brothers look like our Irish/English ancestors, with variations of green/hazel eyes and light/medium brown hair — and fair skin.

                There must’ve been a blue-eye blond in mix somewhere, because that’s what I ended up with.

                If we all didn’t look so much like our parents, there probably would’ve been some ‘milk man jokes’.

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              3. Yeah, the older we get, the more the resemblance is there, but when we were little, nope.

                One brother got the jet black hair our dad had, the rest of us are varying shades of brown. Eyes are hazel, whiskey brown, dark velvet brown, mucky green, and grayish blue.

                You get the gist. Each of us is an individual.

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  21. Brix was saying they did not think ‘mitigation’ would work and it had NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE.

    She is full of BULL SCHIFF! Here at the Utree we have mentioned at least three different times/places when mitigation was used successfully. (It was called quarantine)

    Here in the USA Ellis Island was set-up to quarantine people coming into the USA. The USDA up until recently quarantined animals coming into the USA and farmers, at least the smart ones quarantine new animals coming onto their farms.

    >>>>>>>>>

    So why was Brix LYING? The World Trade Organization WANTS OPEN BORDERS as does the UN.

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    1. I actually thought she meant she didn’t know if we would all follow the mitigation guidelines, that she didn’t know if the mitigation guidelines would work in getting us to take the actions needed v. she didn’t know that if we all did the mitigation actions would that actually make a difference.

      that is how I took what she said to mean – that we had never taken this much broad action across such a wide area of the country and didn’t know how the mitigating would actually go.

      I think they all thought the actual mitigation, if done well, would make a difference.

      thats how I took it anyway. maybe because never entered my mind that they didn’t think that all of the mitigation actious wouldn’t reduce infection rate/WuFlu cases

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      1. She may have meant it that way, but if the aftermath of 9-11 showed anything it’s that Americans WILL follow directions when they are scared.

        The CDC/FDA government/pressers, etc., have scared the $#!+ out of the people to the point that they are submitting to be dehumanized with the darn masks and “social distanced” into touch dysphoria.

        Due to our parents’ attitude on touching, all the kids in my family have touch dysphoria. That’s what they’re doing to the American people – and Italians and Spaniards and the French, and so many others – on an industrial scale.

        I don’t like it, and I’m tired of playing along. It’s getting really obvious.

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    1. Yup!

      My mr. wheatie saw this in a tweet earlier and showed it to me.

      Check out Scarf Lady’s face in the early part of the video!
      That gets the full side-eye:

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              1. I would want the tranq AND the squeeze chute. Some times the tranq doesn’t work as expected and has the OPPOSITE effect😲

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              2. Yep.
                Can’t be too careful!

                So then the question remains…

                How did they do a test on a Tiger?

                And…why?

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        1. That there machine wouldn’t work for kitty cats – they are more flexible and slithery than a bovine. One has to wrap a house cat in a towel to get her medicine down her. A tiger would have to be sedated, as you said.

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          1. Actually we used a canvas bag, leather gloves, a leather jacket and leather chaps when trying to get antibiotics down our barn cat the second time. We tried the towel the first time. It ended up in shreds.

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    1. He is ignoring the reason for the mitigation. To FLATTEN the curve so we do not overwhelm the hospitals. This of course is completely dependent on what the hospitalization rate is expected to be. If the Commie Chinese, WHO and CDC LIED about how severe the disease is then all projections are off.

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      1. ALL THREE LIED – Commie Chinese, WHO and CDC and some on the task force lied to us.

        Remember – the CDC (as well as Fauci and Birx) kept telling us over and over in the first several weeks – “the risk to the average American of catching this virus was low.”

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        1. Yes, they LIED and it was pretty darn obvious they were lying their rear-ends off to make sure the disease was well seeded in the USA.

          I think California is STILL lying. No WAY has that virus burned through all of California yet WITHOUT a YUGE number of deaths in the homeless population.

          I would sure like to see the REAL death stats for California for the last few years.

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          1. DONALD TRUMP DON’T TRUST NEWSOM – NEWSOM IS ASSHOE!!!

            Sounds to me like Cali is – by design – a ticking time bomb.

            They’re going to have a giant spike and then FLIP TOTALLY OUT ON TV AT TRUMP!!!!

            DEMAND OUR PRECIOUS VENTS BACK!!!!!!!

            PEEPS ARE DYING!!!!

            Meanwhile, Cuomo gets all the attention for being the media favorite

            Coma will join in with Newsom on criticism of Trump, with media and others.

            ALL PILE ON.

            WHY CANT ORANGE MAN DO IT LIKE CHINA!!!! HE FALE RESPONSE!!!

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          2. I don’t think it’s spreading like they expected in California because of factors they could not have predicted. And I can’t say what those factors are. I’m just saying something is off about what is happening there.

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        2. TIMELINE ….
          3/8/20 – Dr. Fauci – The CDC is now recommending that the elderly and physically fragile not fly commercial airlines and avoid crowds like restaurants, Churches, schools, etc., open air larger locations are best. Shopping in the early morning or evening when fewer people are around is preferred.
          Video – https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1236699147899678720
          3/11/20 – WHO declares Pandemic
          3/12/30 – Travel Restrictions
          3/15/20 – 15 Day Guidelines

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      2. But as he pointed out. The flattening just drags things out. We have just set a bad precedent to take away our rights and crush the economy.

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        1. But our Founders didn’t have a problem with Quarantines.

          In fact…Quarantines were routinely used.

          History gives us an incomplete picture of how often Quarantines were used back then…because it was such an accepted practice.

          That was *before* air travel could spread a communicable disease Before the World Was Aware Of It.

          That was *before* a global economy moves products quickly between infected areas to the rest of the world.

          So…yeah…rights are being crushed.
          What’s the alternative?
          More deaths that can be blamed on Pres Trump?

          This was a big-assed BioAttack, aimed at the US with no qualms about it hitting the rest of the world.
          It was a heinous crime against humanity as a whole.

          I think that our Founders would’ve handled it even harsher that Pres Trump has handled it.

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          1. He also pointed out that pre-internet we would not have even heard of this flu until it was done. He said these all follow a standard pattern of four weeks of infection as it moves through the population with about a 2% death rate of those infected. Also, if we have not reached herd immunity, 80% of the population, then we are almost guaranteed a second wave in the fall.

            So, the consequences of the actions taken interfered with mother natures normal course and just may have made things worse, not better. Plus the crushing of our civil rights in the process.

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            1. Historically, “mother natures normal course” has left millions of people dead.

              Are you saying this is preferable?

              There are millions of people Alive Now, who would’ve been dead if mother nature had been allowed to run her “normal course”.

              Are you saying that’s a bad thing?
              I don’t think you are.

              But apparently you are having trouble seeing this for the big-assed Trap that it was…and how it was designed to get rid of Pres Trump.

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    1. Yellow journalism at it’s finest….

      How New York City’s Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block

      ….those extra ventilators are long gone, the health department said on Sunday. The lifesaving devices broke down over time and were auctioned off by the city at least five years ago because the agency couldn’t afford to maintain them.

      …… Andrew Cuomo said he was authorizing the state’s National Guard to seize ventilators from less overwhelmed hospitals to be used where they are more urgently needed.

      Early hopes that the federal government could use its Strategic National Stockpile to adequately supplement New York’s supply of ventilators have faded amid revelations that key federal agencies were themselves woefully underprepared for a pandemic. The COVID-19 crisis has exposed the national stockpile as poorly maintained by the Trump administration and far too small to meet the competing demands that have predictably poured in from many states as the pandemic hurtles across the country.Indeed, some of the ventilators in the stockpile suffered from the same problem faced by New York — they fell into disrepair.

      On Friday, President Donald Trump faulted New York and said he could not assure the state of more ventilators. “No,” he told reporters. “They should’ve had more ventilators at the time. They should’ve had more ventilators.” (Trump himself has been widely criticized for ignoring early warnings and downplaying the threat of the virus in the face of mounting global evidence of its lethality.)….

      This tells you who wrote it:

      https://www.propublica.org/leadership/

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      1. I was actually trying to highlight the 2nd tweet. The partner of one of the WH task force members has tested positive. Now the Rear Admiral John P. and his team are working from home.

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  22. Controlled opposition alert. I never trusted this man and never will.

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    1. Yep…thank you, Sadie!

      I don’t trust Cerno either.
      Haven’t trusted him since he was so quick to turn on Pres Trump after the election.

      Cernovich is also Anti-Q, like Posobiec.

      I think they both have their own agenda…and have used their ‘support’ of Pres Trump to gain followers and pump up their names.

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      1. Cernovich tweeted a couple of weeks ago that he’s going to register Democrat and vote for Biden in November. He is definitely not trustworthy. I don’t think he believes in anything. He’s an opportunist and likes to stir up controversy.

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        1. I missed that…thanks, Linda.

          Doesn’t surprise me, though.

          Sounds like Cerno is auditioning for the leftist talk show circuit.

          His schtick would be…’Ex-Conservative insider’ who could dish dirt on our President.
          The left loves traitors like that.

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      1. Globalist Ghoul Gates!

        I read an article a couple of days ago that said…that the early vaccines that Gates had funded, were used in 3rd world countries, and in some Central American countries.

        It said that it has been learned now, that those vaccines rendered women ‘incapable of carrying a pregnancy to term’.
        😬😠

        So…those vaccines basically sterilized women in those countries.

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        1. Human experiments. The polio vaccine with live virus in Africa. Hillary and bill had a big investment in a company that destroyed trash off some well known child trafficking lake area in Tanzania? I think. Lots of connections and surface heebie jeebies.

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    1. FDA STILL HAS NOT UPDATED EUA TO ALLOW PHARMACIES TO DISPENSE HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE for symptomatic patients or prevention for health care providers and first responders. State Dept of Health will NOT draw from the SNS stockpile without hospitalization or positive test.

      FDA is the logjam. Please help get this word out!

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    2. And that can mean two very distinct things.

      If COVID was a contributing factor, pushed someone with one foot in the grave already the rest of the way in, I think it’s appropriate to label it a COVID death.

      If they guy just tested positive but there’s no sign the virus had done any real damage yet…then no bueno.

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