20200407: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

499 thoughts on “20200407: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

      1. Yes!! They need to bring their factory back to USA. 3M is ‘importing’ these masks from their own factory in China. Not sure they even have a factory here in the States!

        President Trump is revealing so much during this crisis.

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        1. I’ve watched the clip several times. Hope POTUS knows about this exchange. No way for it to be interpreted any other way than what we’ve seen. Fauci and Karl communicated at the end… should not have been any communication between them.

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          1. Karl, the treasonous journo, looks like he is saluting Fouci before Fouci returns a thumbs up. Must be the secret silent comms between traitors to America.

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            1. Yes, that was the first thing that happened – I believe I got caught between him and some other conservatives on twitter who were at odds with him. Later came the block at his site.

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        2. And, supposedly Karl had an earpiece that he took out as soon as briefing finished and he gave dr. Fauci a subtle approval gesture…and it was to that the doctor returned the gesture.
          Does anyone have video on this?
          SMH here…for Karl to bring in this woman, knowing for whom she currently works (forgetting other ties) is just a middle finger behavior, IMO. Most likely a little retaliation to the OANN reporter being invited. Childish in the extreme and I hope there will be some accountability.

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          1. The solution IMO is chopper pressers ONLY. It’s worth it to have POTUS take an aerial tour of DC every day if he’ll do a presser next to Marine One.

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            1. I hear you, but too much info on the situation with facts and figures at this time.
              Truthfully, although it irritates us to death the big losers every briefing are the media. POTUS comes out looking strong, decisive and fully able to handle the traitors. And, that is exactly what his base wants.
              We are amazed every day he knows the answers and details of every question asked.

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              1. It is QUITE simple, for his antics and STUNT, plus what HE obviously orchestrated against the OANN reporter, REMOVE, not suspend, REMOVE Karl’s WH press credential. NOT ABC’s, JUST Karl can’t come in. ABC can send someone ELSE. The message will be LOUD and CLEAR. Even to that dense idiot.

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              2. P Rex

                The President is not ALLOWED to do that. Remember Acosta manhandling the press secretary’s helper and HE went to court to FORCE the White house to ALLOW him back in?

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        3. Better clip showing Fauci gives “thumbs up” in RESPONSE to Jon Karl salute to him.

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    2. “Yesterday WHCA head Jonathan Karl invited a known propagandist for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) into the briefing room to question President Trump. ”

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      That’s because Jonathan Karl himself is a known propagandist for the CCP.

      Isn’t the bigger question… why is Jonathan Karl invited to WH press briefings?

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  1. So now that their models are falling apart, they are going to try to convince us that tigers….then probably our pets and livestock…can transmit or harbor the virus.

    Panic 2.0

    How and WHY did they test a tiger?? I thought they were clamoring about not having enough tests? So they used one on a 🐅?!?

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    1. Asymptomatic zookeeper believed to have given virus to tiger. Tiger was coughing and not eating. Different test, done by the vet. Several tigers and lions suspected to have the virus. Cats can’t directly pass virus to humans, BUT they believe virus can remain on their fur and people could get it that way. Heard dogs can’t get virus.

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      1. In their weekly radio show, Stack Vet. Hosp., stated that a house cat and ferret were intentionally infected with the virus. Apparently to study them. There was no mention at that time about the tigers at the Brooklyn Zoo. Stack is in NY.

        I don’t think dogs can get the virus because almost all dogs are on heartworm medicine (ivermectrin) 12 months out of the year.

        Do you remember when the chinese people were beating their dogs when the WuFlu first started out, they thought they were carriers. Maybe our gov’t is going to look into it because of so many hot spots.

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        1. YES! Rabies!

          There are probably a few other zoonotic diseases that can be transmitted.

          The role of wildlife in emerging and re-emerging zoonoses.

          …. Two different patterns of transmission of pathogens from wild animals to humans are evident among these emerging zoonotic diseases. In one pattern, actual transmission of the pathogen to humans is a rare event but, once it has occurred, human-to-human transmission maintains the infection for some period of time or permanently. Some examples of pathogens with this pattern of transmission are human immunodeficiency virus/acquired immune deficiency syndrome, influenza A, Ebola virus and severe acute respiratory syndrome. In the second pattern, direct or vector-mediated animal-to-human transmission is the usual source of human infection. Wild animal populations are the principal reservoirs of the pathogen and human-to-human disease transmission is rare. Examples of pathogens with this pattern of transmission include rabies and other lyssaviruses, Nipah virus, West Nile virus, Hantavirus, and the agents of Lyme borreliosis, plague, tularemia, leptospirosis and ehrlichiosis. These zoonotic diseases from wild animal sources all have trends that are rising sharply upwards…..

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            1. Y. pestis bacterium. I.E. Bubonic plague.

              Burrowing rodents in rural nature live with flea parasites that, in turn, are infected with Yersinia pestis. Rats pick up infected fleas from burrowing rodents (think gophers,) and bring them to human habitation. Burrowing rodents immune to the disease, but not rats or humans.

              “Zoonosis” is the technical term for a disease in humans that started with a parasite native to animals. (ζώο=zoo=Greek for “animal”.). It’s a common enough situation that there’s a general word for it.

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            2. XMRV.

              The murine retrovirus that putatively jumped to humans during polio vaccine manufacture in the 1930s. So vaccine maker passes human polio virus through mouse brain tissue hundreds of times trying to make it more persistent (for the vaccine). The polio virus picks up a mouse retrovirus through DNA insertion.

              Vaccine is given to doctors and nurses at a hospital during a polio outbreak and 198 of them are permanently disabled by a mysterious new illness. All covered up by an out of court hush settlement paid to each sufferer.

              Do not forget human methods of zoonotic transfer. They can be the most deadly kind.

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          1. Over last 20 or 25 years, Chinese researchers have about doubled the number of viruses known to science, from ~2,000 to ~4,000.

            They did this primarily by studying viruses in wild animals in jungles, or other remote locations. Most famously viruses in bats.

            Gee, I wonder why?

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        2. Cats get coronaviruses – as there are a number of different ones. Wonder if it was for sure COVID 19 or just an assumption because the keeper tested positive.

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        3. “Reverse zoonoses: Human viruses that infect other animals”
          https://www.virology.ws/2009/04/08/reverse-zoonoses-human-viruses-that-infect-other-animals/
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          An example of a reverse zoonosis occurred just last week at Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago, where a 9 year old chimpanzee died of respiratory disease caused by human metapneumovirus. This member of the paramyxovirus family is responsible for approximately 10% of all respiratory tract infections. All seven members of a group of chimpanzees were infected with the virus, but only one became ill. The virus was likely transmitted to the chimps by humans, but precisely how and when is not known. Outbreaks of fatal respiratory disease in wild chimpanzees have been reported previously, and human metapneumovirus has been one of several human viruses isolated from these primates…

          Influenza virus may also be frequently transmitted from humans to other animal species. An outbreak of influenza recently lead to the death of 6 bonobos (a species of chimpanzee) in a Congo wildlife sanctuary. Although the influenza subtype responsible for the outbreak has not been identified, it has been suggested that the source was one or more visitors during the February epidemic of influenza in Kinshasha.

          Human influenza viruses are frequently isolated from pigs. Since its emergence in 1968, the H3N2 subtype has infected pigs many times throughout the world, and has often caused serious outbreaks. More recently the influenza H1N1 subtype has been shown to infect pigs. Influenza viruses remain in the pig population for long periods of time, and may serve as reservoirs for the recycling of older influenza virus strains back into the human population.

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            1. It is not real common but it does happen.

              A friend lost a brother to a ‘horse disease’ I think it was one of the encephalitis viruses.

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        4. Human to pigs, and vice versa.

          Pigs are used as test animals because their immune systems are so similar to humans’.

          Pigs are the closest non-primates to the primates, both genetically and in terms of clades.

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      1. Isn’t there some show on Susan Rice/Barry obama’s Netflix about tigers? I hear a lot of people talking about their freaky obsession with the show, which is enough reason for me to NOT watch it.

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    2. They REALLLLY want their weapon don’t they? they are too STUPID to know that we ALL see their BLANTANT DESPERATION to keep their precious “alive”. Their precious is on LIFE SUPPORT of it’s OWN. Someone get ahold of Garrison, have him do a graphic of the MSM giving CPR to the virus.

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    1. “Cons are anti-science and should STFU about social issues.”

      Same people:

      “Gender is not binary and a fetus is not a baby.”

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    1. Rush just said he’s upped his hospitalization numbers today. I guess so – if you can’t get the drugs unless you go through the hospital system.

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      1. IIRC, Chyna approved 3M export the masks manufactured by 3M company in Chyna.

        Guessing Chyna owns 51% of the 3M plant. Of course ChiComs have ultimate say regardless.

        This sort of shit will get major headlines in the run up to 3 Nov and Trump rallies.

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        1. Americans (and the West) are spoiled with our version of contract law and biz ethics.
          In our country, we can open a business tomorrow and our success depends on our own efforts.
          It’s NOT that way in the rest of the world.

          Business School #101 always included the story about Coca-Cola in India, but the cross section of geopolitics and international business has long been treacherous.
          During the 1970s, Coke decided to expand operations into India, lower transportation costs by manufacturing and bottling there, instead of shipping a bottle of Coca-Cola halfway around the world.
          Makes sense, right?
          Problem was, the water quality in India sucked.
          So, management built a water purification plant which fed the Coca-Cola plant at a cost of 750 million dollars (lot of money for the mid-1970s)
          As soon as Coca-Cola finished building the water purification plant, India nationalized it = stole it.
          It sent shivers through the biz community and the loss endangered Coke’s dividend for the quarter.
          Message received on Wall Street, loud and clear.

          And then, the same thing happened to oil companies in Iran during the 1970s, or Venezuela under Chavez.
          History is littered with examples of countries or private biz expanding into another country and then losing their investment. Colonization of Africa was easy for European nations, but when the “Euro” power retreated with the revolutions of the 1960s, private businesses lost enormous value in assets and the revolutions/upheaval continues.

          Go further back.
          The silver mine in Potosi, Bolivia, was a modern marvel and changed South America in the late 1600’s, but Spain lost the mine. The story of Pulacayo, Bolivia, silver mine is fascinating, railways and reservoirs, industrialism on steroids. Again, biz men found and developed the mine, eventually taken over. The biz men formed a Mining “Society”, which was really a partnership among three men during the 1800s. Arce was one of the mines partners and became President of Bolivia in late 1800s. Yet, eventually “society” was redefined as “socialism” as the workers took over the mines……… and largely explains how socialism was easily spread in South America. Even today, Bolivia has the MOST socialist bent in South America and it’s because of the history of mining in the region.
          And as the screw of history turns and another decade passes, Bolivia lost enormous wealth, status and society declined. Bolivia became a “shithole”……. but the workers own it all. Suppose they’re better off?

          Fast forward to the last 18yrs+.
          I was doing a LOT of business in the Middle East, big projects/dimensional stone. As an American, I took great pride in my work……. and I wanted “OUR” money back, since I was one of the kids who waited in line for gas during the OPEC Embargo. For me, it was a little bit of street vengeance.

          Three years prior, I was approached for a complicated project for their hotel/marina, The Burg. I spent months on it, sourcing the materials and did a great job. And heard nothing……
          Screwed, right?
          Not surprising, large buildings are erected in the Middle East to create a spectacular skyline but the interiors are left empty ….. for years. Their timelines work at a glacial speed.
          I received a phone call out of the blue, same project. It had never been completed, but now they were ready to go.
          Imagine the irony…… one of the most noteworthy buildings in the world….. showing up on my desk in rural Mississippi….. twice.
          In order to get the job, and they obviously wanted me, I had to form a partnership, first with a Spanish company operating out of Doha, Qatar…. and then with a member of the AlThani family, who would take 51%. In other words, my company would do the work and only receive half of 49% or 24.5%.
          I told them all to go pound sand.
          It could be said I walked away with my pride but an empty pocket. Yet, I knew that particular arrangement would never settle until they took my 24.5% as well. My former Governor was in bed with the AlThanis and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Couldn’t do it.
          Did I make a mistake? Cuz it felt like I saved myself from a bigger loss.

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          1. Also–Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure was first built by American companies.

            Then nationalized.

            Maybe we should hit them up for compensation. Or better yet, demand they return the property.

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    1. “U.S. companies are finding out they don’t own their own factories in China. When they tried to export THEIR medical equipment, the Chinese government stopped them:”

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      Then sabotage the equipment and leave the country.

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    2. Gates is going to rig the test, watch HCQ will be deemed ineffective. Why allow Gates and cancel Dr. Oz’s test. It seems like they would need as many tests as possible. The more data, the better, right TONY???

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      1. All they have to do is give out NOTHING but placebos. Since it is DOUBLE BLIND the doctors would not know it was nothing but duds.

        I hope they catch Gates red handed.

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      2. “Gates is going to rig the test, watch HCQ will be deemed ineffective. ”

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        Good.

        Then when Billy $hithead gets CAV he won’t get the effective treatment.

        He can just die.

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    3. Gates trying to find out how to rework his precious so that it overcomes Chloroquine. It must SUCK to have spent billions engineering a virus and its vaccine, propagating it, propagandizing it with mock conferences, and IHME studies, having the Chinese release it in Wuhan, then use the vaccine to PROVE control in Wuhan. then before you can enact your evil planned vaccine and make TRILLIONS, Trump finds a cure that will STOP it before you can release it, and it costs .03 per dose, BWAHAHAHAH. All that money wasted on what will soon be a USELESS virus and vaccine.

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    1. “Trump, Biden speak by phone amid coronavirus”

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      It’s probably unfair to call what Biden does as ‘speaking’, it’s more of an incoherent babbling and rambling, with pedo anecdotes from his past thrown in.

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  2. NORMALLY (and this is NOT normal, so I am NOT describing the current situation)

    A double blind test like Fauci advocates would be called for, because there are all sorts of factors that come into play, psychosomatic effects (the drug doesn’t do anything, but people knowing they have taken a ‘drug’ does do something) for instance–you guard against those by giving some subjects a placebo; if they also get better, it’s psychosomatic.

    This sort of thing is necessary when improvements are expected to be subtle or within the range of psychosomatic effects. If it’s not done, then people will gripe that there was no control group (treated identically except for getting a placebo), and they will be right to do so!

    [I mentioned double blind. Double blind means the people giving the test subjects the pills ALSO don’t know if it’s a placebo or a real dose. That way their mannerisms–even inadvertent ones–can’t give it away and affect the state of mind of the patient.]

    (If you’ve ever hung out around someone who obviously had a cold and could swear you were getting sick over the span of 20 minutes and even felt a scratchy throat–but it went away two hours later–that’s a psychosomatic effect. People can think themselves into flu symptoms too. Well, you can think yourself somewhat better too.)

    NONE of this applies to the current situation, and this is where Fauci is wrong.

    The FDA generally likes to see evidence that a drug is both safe and effective.

    HCQ is already a known quantity as regards its safety; we already know its side effects.

    We have a huge pile of anecdotes, uniformly favorable. Of course it’d be ideal to do things under controlled conditions to guard against Factor X (something we don’t realize we are doing) being the real reason people are getting better, but so far as I know, no one has reported a negative result (which could happen if HCQ were useless but something else associated with it was).

    The before/after difference is too dramatic to be purely psychosomatic, and, as I understand it, the virus actually disappears (though the antibodies remain). No way a psychosomatic effect could kill the viruses; it can at most improve symptoms.

    Even if this is not enough to STRONGLY SUGGEST to someone that there’s something worth looking into here, we are definitely within “Right To Try” territory. What does someone who’s about to be put on a ventilator, have to lose?

    Fauci needs to get the hell out of the way.

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    1. “…no one has reported a negative result …”

      ^^^ THIS. ^^^

      After hearing the Fauci, MCM and D-Rats spout, “anecdotal” reports a few times, I realized those numskulls didn’t cite an “anecdotal” report of a negative result from using HCQ…
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      There is time, later for double blind and all of the protocols CDC and FDA ,are in my mind, blindly wedded to. Yes, double blind has its place. But it is not the absolute. This is an absolute power play rooted in perceived authority and $$$.

      Thankfully President Trump will strong arm HCQ, Zpaks and zinc into broad based play in use against CAV (China Asshoe Virus).
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      IMAGINE, the nightmare we’d be in if, we did NOT have President Trump AND Right To Try.

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      1. Let’s see…our prior administration probably would have forbidden HCQ…AND they would not have taken the (more conventional) steps Trump took to slow the spread.

        Someone called THIS situation a nightmare yesterday, in a rather long, angry post.

        But THAT hypothetical situation would really be a NIGHTMARE, with no mitigation of EITHER kind being done.

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      2. The CLEAREST indication that Chloroquine IS the answer is found in the AMOUNT of ATTACK the MSM and various Cabal issue AGAINST it. They NEVER question the model, no matter HOW outlandish, yet despite CLEAR evidence from China, Italy, France, Germany and NY, who are ALL using Chloroquine to GREAT, not GOOD, but GREAT success, the MSM CONSTANTLY deadpan, talk down, discourage, question and flat out LIE to try and scare AWAY from using Chloroquine.

        Ask ONE question, and you HAVE the answer. WHY attack something that is showing great PROMISE of ENDING this nightmare?

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          1. I HOPE not Gail, I hope they will say one thing and DO quite another with their lives on the line. The Cabal and their MSM, and people like Gates, Soros, and the CCP do not CARE how many die, they just care about the ENDS. IF it gives them money and power, they will kill BILLIONS. Remember, these are some of the people who want the WORLD population down to 50o Million, from nearly 8 BILLION. It and WE do not matter to them.

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          2. In regards to you comment comparing deplorables versus snowflakes, wouldn’t the democrats realize that they are killing off their voters just prior to the election? Most of the people that are dying are in “hot spots” around the country. I believe that the deplorables are more likely to have prepared when they saw what was coming and take precautions when they go out. Someone should do a meme or ask them if they are asking if they are dem or rep before they die. Too harsh I guess.

            Gee, it would be nice to flip NY.

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    2. I feel the same way now as I always feel when confronted with “psychosomatic” as opposed to “real” results;

      What difference does it make?

      If someone gets BETTER, who cares WHY?

      The human mind is an AMAZING creation. FAITH ALONE has healed the sick. So if someone has FAITH in a treatment and recovers, are they any less WELL?

      This is not in any way a dis of you, Steve. I understand and agree with your comment.

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      1. It depends greatly on “better, how?”

        If someone is infected, and psychosomatically his symptoms get better, but the pathogen is still there…that’s not going to last long. It’s nice, but it won’t last long; the actual disease is still there, untreated, and they will ultimately suffer a relapse (which isn’t really a relapse).

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        1. Steve, the biggie in the French doctor’s initial study was the virus disappeared!

          Patients and methods
          French Confirmed COVID-19 patients were included in a single arm protocol from early March to March 16th, to receive 600mg of hydroxychloroquine daily and their viral load in nasopharyngeal swabs was tested daily in a hospital setting. Depending on their clinical presentation, azithromycin was added to the treatment. Untreated patients from another center and cases refusing the protocol were included as negative controls. Presence and absence of virus at Day6-post inclusion was considered the end point.

          Results
          Six patients were asymptomatic, 22 had upper respiratory tract infection symptoms and eight had lower respiratory tract infection symptoms.

          Twenty cases were treated in this study and showed a significant reduction of the viral carriage at D6-post inclusion compared to controls, and much lower average carrying duration than reported of untreated patients in the literature. Azithromycin added to hydroxychloroquine was significantly more efficient for virus elimination.….
          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

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      2. Agreed this Psychosomatic effect, more commonly said as the Lazarus effect, is the NEW favorite talking point of those that still pump and pimp the models while DOWNPLAYING the effects and ACTUAL DATA on Chloroquine. Dana Perino had one on her show YESTERDAY, right on cue as I expected. It was some doc who was on the China/US virus health summit, whatever the phuck that is supposed to be..besides a DIS INFO org. I saw antother on TV this morning on NBC happily spreading disinfo the Chloroquine was NOT working, WOULD NOT work, and was a false hope. Not citing any data mind you. Said we needed YEARS of study…LOL they REALLY wan their weapon, and make NO mistake, it is being TAKEN from them DAILY. Also, note the coordination in the narrative from multiple sources.

        Q made us ALL wise to common talking points. When they do THAT, with the sheer amount of desperation to try and SAVE this scourge, you KNOW we are winning!

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        1. You ALSO know it was a PLANNED bio-weapon.

          No one in their right mind fights a cure like this UNLESS the Chinese Commie Crud was meant as a weapon.

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          1. Yes, and a weapon they ALREADY had a vaccine for. In the crates and ready to go, at the right time and at the right PRICE.

            See, and this answers Ozzy’s question, Wuhan was a CONTROL test. They released it there, let it propagate and SPREAD, but not too far, and THEN released the vaccine to SEE if they had positive CONTROL before they released it to the world. They DID.

            We were all then SEEDED, that is why this is MOST prevalent in the LARGE metro areas. They are ones with large ports and air ports, most with DIRECT flights to and from China.

            These people, carrying the virus, came and went as they pleased here, perhaps even WAITING at different times (imbedded) to spread the seeds FURTHER and not at the same TIMES.

            Insidious. EVIL. PLANNED. COORDINATED.

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              1. Plus, specific individuals who were celebrities, and part of the plot themselves (many celebrities are aligned with, or controlled by, CCP, Deep State, banksters, etc.,) could announce falsely, in the early days of it reaching public consciousness here, that they had contracted it.

                Why?

                To serve as lit matches to the media firestorm. Get the panic kicked off in a big way. To act quickly, before low information (and blue-pilled) voters, freshly numb from weeks of mindless, 24/7 shampeachment coverage, could educate themselves about the actual facts of the virus. To justify the new zeitgeist of mindless, 24/7 corona coverage.

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      1. Yes, that is an argument they have over and over again!

        When one is taking a shot in the dark with a med, it’s a lot more justifiable. After all the (proposed) med might turn out to be useless, or nearly so, anyway. And if it’s for something not life threatening, correspondingly less harm is done to those who get the placebo.

        But of course, the situation at hand is quite different…and I know they DO argue about the ethics involved. On the one hand is what you said, on the other is the horror they’d feel if they let another Thalidomide out on the market.

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  3. At last some true investigative reporting:
    COVID-19: Inside The Hospitals & Why The Lockdown? from Coreys Diggs
    https://www.coreysdigs.com/health-science/covid-19-inside-the-hospitals-why-the-lockdown/

    The end of the above excellent report is how I also feel:
    …..
    I have always been a very decisive person, and base my decisions on facts and pure intuitive instincts. That said, this is the first time I can honestly say, I am a bit torn here. If we were simply talking about the virus alone, I would say we all need to get back to work before the economy and people’s lives are damaged beyond repair. But, I see the bigger picture and there are a lot of plays happening right now with a lot of moving parts, and I just can’t say what would be in the best interest for people right now. It’s difficult for everyone to watch this play out, experience the effects of it all, and not know what our future holds, but I will always maintain hope and be optimistic about what that future may look like. All I can do at this point, is provide the facts and evidence as they surface, and pray for all of my fellow Americans, and the entire world.
    Stay strong. We can get through this together. I promise.

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    1. Chilling quote from Corey’s article:

      “Of course, Bill Gates is always front and center when it comes to viruses, which has always been rather bizarre, being as he’s a college dropout with no medical background whatsoever. But hey, he’s got billions, so who the hell cares?! From eugenics and vaccines to pandemic movies to Event 201, and on to donating millions to rescue the world from this virus, the savior himself happens to be located at the original epicenter, just 19 minutes from Life Care Center nursing home in Kirkland, Washington where it all began. Better yet, a web has spawned around him with at least a dozen nursing homes infected because some of them share staff, many of whom come in from other countries. It’s almost as though he has a front row seat.”

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  4. They’re now branding anti-body testing as “certified recovered.”

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/06/the-certified-recovered-from-covid-19-could-lead-the-economic-recovery/

    Folks, I’m going to keep hammering this point. The media keeps putting out editorials and articles about how you’re not going to be able to have a job or normal life until you submit to their medical tyranny (e.g. microchipping). This is it. This is no longer “conspiracy theory.”

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  5. The coronavirus traveled all over the world from Wuhan China, but it did not reach Beijing or Shanghai or other major cities in China. Can anyone explain how is that possible?
    There are so many questions, after all, where it all started, in China, the Chinese stock market did not collapse, but the American and European markets did, and when those markets collapsed, the Chinese bought a lot.

    All roads lead back to China

    1. They created a virus for which they already had an antidote.

    2. They purposely spread the virus for financial gain.

    3. There is a clear demonstration of efficiency to such an extent that they built hospitals in a few days. To build so many hospitals they had to be prepared with organized projects, for example, with the ordering of equipment, the hiring of labor, the water and sewerage network, the prefabricated building materials and the storage in an impressive volume. Everything happened so fast that everyone was speechless.

    4. They caused chaos in the world, beginning with Europe and the rest of the western worlds.

    5. Quickly decimating the economies of dozens of countries.

    6. Stop production and manufacturing lines in factories and primary production in dozens of countries.

    7. Causing the stock markets to crash and then they bought stocks, bonds and companies at bargain prices.

    8. They then quickly gained control of the epidemic in their country. After all, they were ready and he was never really out of control.

    9. In all this, they managed to lower the price of basic products, including the price of oil.

    10. Now they are going back to mass production while the rest of the world is stopped.

    Also note how quickly Chinese unions activated to “hoard” purchases of bus cargo to regional shopping centers across Australia, stripping our shelves of toilet paper and staple foods.

    It happened before most of us knew what was happening, even before we knew what the Coronavirus was.

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    1. many layers to this…ChiComs definitely…but they aren’t alone in this….

      they have the vendetta motives…while others reap the spoils and master mind the outcomes..

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      1. Yep. And don’t forget Satan Soros railing at Davos that the US and other stock markets were too high, and needed to come down…

        (So all those Billions in “shorts” he bought would actually make money…)…

        Probably all the real (read: evil) business went on at Davos in smoke-filled back rooms, whilst the “business” going on out front, for the haters to hate, was all for show…

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      1. Seriously pissed that China thinks we are
        1 that gullible/stupid
        And/or 2 unwilling or unable to retaliate.
        Potus and allies inc scoMo, Poland ,bologna (Brazil) bojo(if able, or his deputy)- after they finish picking over China’s carcass I want
        to grind their bones to make bread

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      1. Someone else’s observation.
        The elephant in the room.
        Swine fever found in Chinese pork products sent to Australia also. Take a little damage but export more? Sounds very Machiavellian

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        1. Your comment is what made me finally put a post together, which snowballed into a great (to me) collection of Q-Treeper info from that day!

          https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/04/10/202004010-dear-kmag-open-thread-its-4-10-20/comment-page-2/#comment-459044

          Blessings to you & yours Down Under–G’Day!

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          1. Thankyou. If you get the time it’s a great book and good, accessible read.
            Most of us don’t think like predators. We need to see their strategies. I read it a long time ago, when it was released. Hope it’s still available

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      2. In Gavin de Becker’s book “the gift of fear” he talks of the strategies used by human predators . One of these is forced pairing ie “we” have a hungry cat to feed.
        Substitute we are victims too but will help you as much as we can with test kits(defective or already contaminated), ppe that’s defective,after stripping shops of ppe PRIOR to epidemic.
        This is malign behaviour masquerading as benevolent

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              1. This is what our subconscious does. It’s the “lizard brain”. It’s constantly vigilant for danger creeping up. The conscious is only interested in the job on hand . If your ancestors didn’t have a lizard brain they would be sabre toothed tiger shit and you not exist.

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              2. Pop culture lizard creatures. Sleestaks (sp?) from a cheesy 70’s show, “Land of the Lost”.

                Gorn from the original Star Trek. Captain Kirk fights a Gorn in an epic battle of species survival in one episode as an overlord alien race tries to force one race to commit genocide on the other, iirc.

                I hope these show for you…

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          1. Anonymous conservative r/ k selection. I refer to that blog.
            This is a completely diferent thing. The bloke GdB is a security consultant. He has written this book to point out that fear is gift from our subconscious and can be lifesaving , not just paralysing.
            The book covers predator behaviour and the little tingle in the back of our minds that we MUST listen to as our subconscious has picked up clues our conscious mind has not yet processed.
            His check list on questions to ask about you kids school security protocols was so good I copied it and sent it to my sister-at the time a vice principal at a senior school

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  6. President Trump praises Fox News contributor doctor from New Orleans after leftists go on the attack:

    She pointed out the uncomfortable truth about the majority of Americans’ health in general…

    THIS particularly got the leftist knickers in a twist. They are accusing her of being a eugenicist and are calling for revocation of her medical license!

    So far as I know, Dr. Saphier hasn’t mentioned the horrible Trump remedy (HCQ)….which would likely cause them to burn crosses and kill her pets.

    Leftists daily demonstrate hatred, illogic and emotionally unstability.

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    1. This may be the REAL reason the newsies got the signal to tear down Dr. Saphier…..

      Bill Gates is the left’s new health guru.

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        1. Gates has his population control agenda and his abortion agenda and his vaccination/ID agenda….

          And strangely, it began in America close to his home:

          Chilling quote from Corey Dig’s article – https://www.coreysdigs.com/global/dear-diary-i-am-observing/

          “Of course, Bill Gates is always front and center when it comes to viruses, which has always been rather bizarre, being as he’s a college dropout with no medical background whatsoever. But hey, he’s got billions, so who the hell cares?! From eugenics and vaccines to pandemic movies to Event 201, and on to donating millions to rescue the world from this virus, the savior himself happens to be located at the original epicenter, just 19 minutes from Life Care Center nursing home in Kirkland, Washington where it all began. Better yet, a web has spawned around him with at least a dozen nursing homes infected because some of them share staff, many of whom come in from other countries. It’s almost as though he has a front row seat.”

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              1. and this…

                Bill Gates + Prince Alwaleed…

                …who are ensuring that “kids around the world” get vaccinations.

                Alwaleed is also involved with buying and selling and trading children.

                their day will come….and it will hurt them…forever…and ever…and ever….real bad…and they will find no relief.

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          1. I always thought it AWFULLY convenient that a population of the MOST vulnerable got this in a CLOSED petri dish , BEFORE the virus was widespread here….MAXIMIZING DEATH, and propaganda, and FEAR.
            The fact that it is a STONES throw from Gate’s center of influence…things that make you go HMMM.

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    2. Ironic, then isn’t it, that the YSM/MCM are calling her a eugenicist, when in point of fact Bill Gates IS A EUGENICIST!

      Projection raised to the power of infinity-1…

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    3. She is pointing out in the article that at least 60% of the US population is recognized as having underlying health conditions already and many of those undying/pre existing health conditions are brought on or made worse by lifestyle choices.

      High blood pressure & diabetes account for 1/3 of the US having Pre-Existing/underlying medical conditions known to put them at higher risk for negative WuFlu outcomes. 100 million & 30 million respectively, although some overlap in the two conditions, I am sure).

      ~1/2 of the US is obese. Obesity (again, overlap with the above groups but not all as some have yet to develop the health issues that come with obesity) is another underlying health condition for negative outcomes of WuFlu

      http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
      http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining

      To dismiss those dying as “only” those with pre existing/underlying health conditions is to ignore that the Majority of the US had pre existing/underlying health conditions.

      The older one is the more likely one is to have one of the 3 above or a combination…much less the other many pre existing health conditions. The older one is the weaker the immune system to fight off the virus and the longer the other health issues have already been damaging one’s system. So, yes, the older and the more existing the health issues the high the risk of negative outcomes…but this is still about the Virus.

      (To find a conspiracy theory is weak on the surface if one thinks that only those who are perfectly healthy with no preexisting conditions ought to count as “real” WuFlu deaths. If not for the WuFlu, many (not all) of the WuFlu deaths are people who had months – years of life ahead of them despite having diabetes, being overweight &/or having high blood pressure.)

      The doctor is getting hammered for recognizing that many of the underlying health conditions that do make one more vulnerable are brought on by lifestyle choices to a large degree which leads to personal, individual responsibility…kyrptonite for Dems!

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        1. That is a VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

          We have a lot of old, decrepit people because modern medicine lets them live long enough to become old and decrepit!

          Human life expectancy used to be below 35, though admittedly that was averaging in a lot of infant mortality–if you could live long enough to reach adulthood, statistically speaking you were likely to get past 35. But still, the 70s were considered a good run back then, and today that’s considered an early death.

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            1. In a way, the lengthening life spans have been a big part of Social Security’s problems.

              When the program first started, a huge percentage of the population wouldn’t live long enough to collect–much less collect for twenty years!! Now, of course, 20 years is not uncommon in the least. Sure, retirement age has been raised–a bit–but the mere fact that so many people live to collect so long means the retirement age is, relative to lifespan, LOWER, much lower, than it was then.

              This is a good thing for us relatively hairless apes, but a bad thing for a program structured like Social Security.

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              1. Social security, honestly, was not a good thing. It really is a ponzi scheme, despite people having been educated to have the attitude that they’ve been paying in, therefore they’re entitled to receive.

                The problem is, the money they paid in was spent when they paid it in, and the only way to pay them now is to take it from someone else. It’s as if a geriatric car thief were to justify his crime to the court on the grounds that someone stole his car from him when he was 24.

                And…there’s zero constitutional warrant for the program.

                Political reality of course is that we can’t end the program tomorrow and leave millions hanging, but there has GOT to be a way to phase it out rather than continuing to perpetuate the immoral error for generation after generation.

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              2. Yup. The difference between a Ponzi scheme, a good program, and an over-charging program that creates a slush fund, is only a matter of RATES that can’t really be predicted any better than those curves that Birx shows us in the pressers.

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              3. Well, unfortunately you’re talking orthogonal to what a Ponzi scheme is. A Ponzi scheme isn’t something that blows up because the outflow exceeds the inflow. A Ponzi scheme is ANYTHING that pays a group that thinks they made an “investment” from money taken in from others, rather than from the proceeds of an actual investment.

                Even if Social Security were set up to take in enough money to fund itself, it would still be a Ponzi scheme.

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              4. “Yup. The difference between a Ponzi scheme, a good program, and an over-charging program that creates a slush fund, is only a matter of RATES that can’t really be predicted any better than those curves that Birx shows us in the pressers.”

                You’re contrasting Ponzi schemes against “good” stable programs, which means you’re conflating the concept of a ponzi scheme with the concept of an financially unsound program.

                As far as unpredictability goes, demographics plays out over a MUCH longer timespan than an epidemic, can be much more thoroughly measured, and it’s possible to see what will happen three decades down the road–with the only variable being “how much will life expectancy increase between now and then” (and since it increases, things can only get worse). If we were watching Fruit Fly Social Security, I’d be more worried about the model not keeping up with the data.

                I suppose another factor would be the economy, but that won’t change the fundamental: Given a retirement age, what number of working age people will be supporting a retiree? At the beginning of the program, it was 15 people, now it’s somewhere between 2 or 3. Since the burden of one retired person is being split among fewer and fewer people, you MUST hit them harder in absolute terms.

                If I’m still not getting it, you’re going to have to spell it out. And I know you don’t like to do that.

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          1. For history nerds:
            FDR upon signing SS Act in 1935

            they had to really encourage peopel to take their social security, “educating” them that it wasn’t welfare

            My Grandfather didn’t take it until his mid 80s – didn’ want welfare. Mom would sometimes find job applications in his apartment well into his 90s. Different generation that was brought up with old school values.

            SS administration’s somewhat convuluted way of explaining that many did live well past 65 – makes it sound common but it wasn’t as commong as they are trying to make it sound. Interesting to see their mental gymnastics. Actually shows that most adults paid into SS but didn’t make it to 65 yrs of age. Of those that did make, they lived a similar lifespan as today’s post retirement crowd. The “problem”/increase isn’t how much longer those who are taking SS live but how many more are reaching 65 to live that long.
            https://www.ssa.gov/history/lifeexpect.html

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            1. Good example…in-laws collected over 30 years. He was more or less self-employed…hotel room service waiter basically working for tips, self-employed small commuter bus driver, etc. Shr never worked outside the home. So, very minimal contribution and undoubtedly minimal SS checks…but still for over 30 years.
              OTOH, father collected 1 month before he died after contributing his entire life. Mother also worked.

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          1. Remove the bottom of that blasted pyramid and you get rid of the obesity.

            I cut the carbs/bread/pasta… out and lost 30 lbs in a summer. Unfortunately it is tough and expensive to stay on a meat and veggie diet.

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            1. We did the same – essentially grain free (not gluten free) for 7-8 yrs. Husband lost weight and all of us healthier. I gained weight! 😦 Health improved so I stick with it. very little beans or even rice until the last 6 weeks and into the next 6 months due to meat shortages, pay cut and budget. Why did I gain? Who knows. I look forward to Heaven and learning what my health mysteries are/were here on earth.

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  7. INDIA is going to be helpful to our national recovery:

    India’s medical community ICMR officially recommended Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19.

    President Trump ‘urged’ India to back off their decision not to export it – but to produce a heap of it for the USA.

    Turns out – India can produce all we and they may ever need:

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    1. “India has 10cr tablets,can treat 7cr! Even if cases rise to 1lakh within a month v hv enough stock for all”

      To help decipher the numbers in that quote, let me mention that, in South Asia,
      1 lakh (लाख) = 100,000

      and

      1cr = 1 crore = 1 karoR = 1 करोड़ = 100 lakh = 10,000,000

      which there would be written 1,00,00,000

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  8. New updates from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: Cocktail of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc Sulfate and Azithromycin are showing phenomenon results with 900 coronavirus patients treated.

    Over the past three weeks, we’ve been sharing with you the great work Dr. Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, has been doing in the treatment of COVID-19 patients in New York. In our last piece, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko treated 700 coronavirus patients treated with 99.9% success rate using Hydroxychloroquine, 1 outpatient died after not following protocol. In the meantime, more doctors are seeing success with hydroxychloroquine and Zinc Sulphate in treating coronavirus patients, according to one report from ABC News.

    Today, we now have a new and encouraging updates from Dr. Zelenko. In a one-hour video, Dr. Zelenko provides a detailed medical explanation about why his cocktail of Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Azithromycin (not Z-Pak) works, and why the three-drug combination are really needed in killing coronavirus.

    Unlike the conventional method of admitting patients to the hospitals, Dr. Zelenko’s approach is to provide treatment to patients before their situation get worse so they don’t have to be admitted into the hospital. His approach has been so effective to the point that he has treated 900 coronavirus patients with 99.99% rate. His approach is to provide treatment to people so that they don’t have to be put on ventilators. His out-patient treatment regimen, which costs only $12, is as follows:

    1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
    2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
    3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

    In an open letter to medical professionals across the globe, Dr. Zelenko said this: “The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.”

    In this new must watch video, Dr. Zelenko went on to explain that hydroxychloroquine helps zinc penetrate the cell (zinc decelerates viral replication in the cell). He stated that azithromycin combats secondary infections. Dr. Zelenko is surprised that many other doctors operate with a “peace time mentality.” Instead, he calls for bravery and mindset adjustment.

    *https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

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      1. ANECDOTAL Definition (Webster’s, etc):
        • based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers
        • Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes: evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony.
        =====
        🤔In the last HOUR, online dictionaries have been REVISED and ALIGNED to OMIT their previous definitions stating “not based on FACTS”.
        =====
        BRITS’ Macmillan Dictionary refused to fraudulently change THEIR definition:

        anecdotal ​DEFINITIONS AND SYNONYMS
        ​ADJECTIVE
        UK
        /ˌænɪkˈdəʊt(ə)l/
        DEFINITIONS
        based on someone’s personal experience or information rather than on facts that can be checked
        =====
        Ditto for UK’s Cambridge Dictionary:
        GOOGLE & company “COLLUDING” to SCREW Americans.

        anecdotal
        adjective
        US /ˌæn.ɪkˈdoʊ.t̬əl/ UK /ˌæn.ɪkˈdəʊ.təl/

        Anecdotal information is not based on facts or careful study:
        anecdotal evidence

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    1. The hospitals are being payed if ICD-10 code for COVID-19 is listed. The flu and parainfluenza codes aren’t being used or tracked the way they normally would, so all the data is skewed. Hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin works on parainfluenza.

      CDC is getting concerned we the people are actually looking at their graphs and seeing the skews. So, per Dr. Pashima, “CDC quietly” rolled out a new website:

      CDC Launches New Weekly COVID-19 Surveillance Report

      Indicators that track flu-like illness and deaths from pneumonia both elevated at this time
      CDC is modifying existing surveillance systems to track COVID-19, and posted the first of what will be a weekly surveillance report called, “COVIDView.” The report, updated each Friday, will summarize and interpret key indicators, including information related to COVID-19 outpatient visits, emergency department visits, hospitalizations and deaths, as well as laboratory data.

      https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0404-covid19-surveillance-report.html

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  9. THIS. IS. YUUUGE.!!! We’ve been treating the patients wrong.

    Last week I commented that there had to be a connection to COVid-19, and FE (the symbol for iron). I just couldn’t figure out what the second FE stood for. President Trump KNEW in 2017 when he tweeted out COVFEFE!!

    Did anyone see the video last week of the doctor talking about the symptoms mimicking altitude sickness/lack of oxygen? HE’s RIGHT! And now word comes this morning that Boris Johnson isn’t getting ventilator treatment, rather oxygen treatment.

    This connects the bio-weapon, the therapeutics that Trump knew about, the hideous appearance of those going through adrenachrome withdrawal, and more.

    Wolfie, get in here and read this!! It will connect all the dots for you, and what you can do to help your recovery!!!

    Please read the article. It actually all now makes sense. When looking into the possibility of Plaquenil (HCQ) as a treatment for COVID-19, I could not figure out the pharmacological mechanism that would allow it to work against a supposed respiratory infection. (Background in medicine myself.) It did not make sense. But, if the possibility exists, as some ER and ICU clinicians may be implying, we could very well be treating the wrong disease altogether. This is a weaponized Coronavirus that may not be behaving like a typical Coronavirus infection. It may be infecting lungs yes, causing symptoms – but, could we be dealing with a secondary double wammie of infecting RBCs (Red Blood Cells) as well?

    Malaria is a disease caused by the bite of an infected mosquito that carries the intracellular parasite Plasmodium that eventually finds its way to red blood cells destroying them – thereby effecting the transfer of oxygen due to lack of hemoglobin. We may be seeing something similar in COVID-19. If, RBCs are being infected by SARS-nCov2 virus, which could be dislodging the bound iron from the heme molecule, that would explain what physicians are seeing – patients that are suffering from hypoxia not due to pneumonia.

    COVID is alleged to cause viral pneumonia leading to cytokine storm. The rogue iron, as suggested in the article, is what is causing the damage to lungs seen in imaging. It could also explain the multiple organ failure as seen in critically ill patients who succumb despite ventilation. Wow.

    This may not be viral pneumonia related to a SARS, but hypoxia from O2 starvation like altitude sickness. Increasing PEEP is causing more harm than good. The iron thing now makes total sense – therein -CovFeFe. COVid and Fe2 and Fe3 – COVID is ox/redux reaction gone amuck – therefore no O2 exchange. All the forced air from increased PEEP is useless because the hemoglobin is working with defective heme. The treatment is causing even more damage on top of the destruction from the excess rogue iron – that explains the rapid organ failure cascade attributed to cytokine storm.

    They are looking in the wrong place. Holy crap! It explains everything. The perfect bioweapon designed to make us look in the wrong place and treat patients the wrong way. Now look at why Barry and Honey Sherman were 187’d at their home in Toronto in 2017 – generic Plaquenil. Why are Fauci and company – cough, cough, Gates – working so hard to discredit Plaquenil and push toxic vaccines? That is why POTUS is giving them the rope to hang themselves. You do not develop a bioweapon unless you already have the cure. It needs to be cheap and effective. BOOM!

    The thread mentions 3 indicators to recognize the difference between SARS and COVID but I only see two listed. The two listed make perfect sense. If any anons can come up with another indicator I would be grateful. The article lists #1: increased hemoglobin production #2: elevated ALT. I could not find #3.

    Update: I think the #3 indicator may be elevated Ferritin levels. Update with lancet study showing blood serum ferritin over 500 ng/ml for patients with COVID when normal is 20-200 ng/ml.

    https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173

    In addition, I think there is merit to use the Plaquenil prophylactically to prevent infection. Mostly to those people who are most at risk from infection such as health workers and the military. A bioweapon is designed to take them out first thereby leaving everyone else vulnerable to attack. There is a long established safety record for the drug – but there does need to be monitoring with individuals with liver dysfunction and other preexisting conditions.

    If a person becomes symptomatic then treatment with the dual combination of Plaquenil and Z-pak can be used – but with caution in cardiac patients due to the azithromycin. Believe it or not, quinine and macrolide antibiotics have been used as an established treatment for malaria. The Plaquenil could possibly prevent the binding of the virus to RBCs – thereby preventing the loosening of the iron from hemoglobin and viral replication at the same time. The Azithromycin also helps to reduce viral replication.

    I want to give a shout-out to the Patriot MudPuddlePie who passed this article on to me for review. Proof why we need each other. This information is exactly what needs to be promoted right now. This is giving us the starting point to go on and do some research – more anons on the case. So feel free to disseminate this out there. The more eyes on the better.

    I feel really sorry for the clinicians in states where they are only allowed to prescribe in emergency cases. I guess there needs to be an uptick in new Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis diagnoses. Actually, there are less known autoimmune diseases that would fit the bill with far less scrutiny. The states where physicians are allowed to prescribe the Plaquenil and Z-pak are having fewer cases that go on to critical condition.

    Be safe Patriots and keep digging. This was a real plandemic by the DS years in the making. We also have possibly switched the more deadly variation of the virus originally planned to be released. But, people are still getting sick and the treatment may very well be killing them when they become critical. (Please don’t blame the physicians who can only go by the treatment protocols they have.) Getting this information out there can help. Don’t think there are no physicians who are on these boards from time to time.

    The DS has to go with the script they already have. There are too many moving pieces to change now. That is why the discrepancies are glaring and becoming more so by the day. But, there are still people who are sick – that is not a hoax. We must help them and the clinicians who are treating them. Life is still precious. Pray, pray, pray – we are winning.

    Additional stuff:

    Covid-19 Does Not Lead to a “Typical” Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome

    https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1164/rccm.202003-0817LE

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    1. “I guess there needs to be an uptick in new Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis diagnoses.” 👍

      And here I was going with something more simple concerning ventilators not working.

      Assume the virus was engineered. Most likely one (of likely many) of the qualities this engineered virus has is it allows for the virus to be more receptive to / sensitive towards electromagnetic disturbance from things like 4G/5G. Think about the receptor spike glycoproteins on the corona of the virus that if bio engineered may cause the virus to then be more receptacle to outside forces than normal biological material is. Example this might interfere in the blood being allowed to pick up oxygen while passing through the lungs (think harden spikes attached to cell walls that continue to oscillate quicker than the bio material they’ve attached themselves too resulting in jerking normal cells thus not allowing them to do their job which is to pass oxygen on to red blood cells) . Meanwhile the patient is surrounded with multiple electric fields some of which are actually attached to the patient. Are the bio engineered receptors on the virus the cause of this because they are more receptive to outside stimuli than normal bio material? If that is the case then the patients should be shielded from as many electro magnetic fields as possible or those fields need to be turned off or reduced so the blood cells can collect the needed oxygen.

      Also might a more active glycoprotien spikes account for scaring in the lungs and possibly a longer activity span for the virus since the virus responds more readily to outside influences occurring in electro magnetic fields?

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    2. This answers my question about why HCQ treatments are helping, in light of this new information:
      “The Plaquenil could possibly prevent the binding of the virus to RBCs – thereby preventing the loosening of the iron from hemoglobin and viral replication at the same time. The Azithromycin also helps to reduce viral replication.”

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        1. Also, azithromycin, like all antibiotics, is immunosuppressive. Thus, it is thought to reduce the cytokine storm by tuning down the general level of the immune system, reducing damage to healthy lung tissue.

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  10. Here’s the article the comment above is referring to. It’s already been pulled but someone archived it. I’m posting it in full here as a back up.

    https://archive.is/ONUmi

    Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
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    In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
    There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
    Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.
    Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.
    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.
    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:
    1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others. Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
    — — — — — — — — — — — — –
    Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT). BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
    Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.
    The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.
    Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.
    The story with Hydroxychloroquine
    All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
    How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.
    No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.
    Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.
    Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
    Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
    Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
    Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
    Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.
    Fini.

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    1. WOW. That is a GAME changer. Just had a conversation with Mrs Rex. As some of you know, once upon a time, she was an ER tech, and a GOOD one. She ALSO was a phlebotomist, and an even BETTER Cardio Tech. She ALSO did a TON of medical coding, dealt with prior authorizations (PAs) She also did Renal. She was basically ALL over the medical industry. When she retired, it took THREE people to replace her.

      Now, why that is important, it is context about how I know what I am about to tell you is TRUE. One, there is NO WAY this is from mother nature’s Kitchen…NONE, too specific, too specialized, especially coming OUT OF THE BLUE.

      Two the Iron and Hemoglobin is a BIG deal. That is basic organ function. No OXYGEN, no function. The body WORLD then , over react, trying to GET the oxygen, making things WORSE. Then the Iron POISONING from the early release would EXACEBATE the condition, as the immune system would go in OVERDRIVE to try and STOP the poisoning, but with NO WAY to supply the FUEL needed to do it, and NO WAY to rid the WASTE. The lungs, heart, liver, kidneys would ALL ramp into over drive trying to do THEIR part to fight the disease, but they cant, they don’t have the FUEL/oxygen. They would then release enzymes CALLING for reinforcements that will not come, and signal the DEATH knell. the Cytokine storm.

      Now the WORST part. This is being mis diagnosed as we ALL see. The insidious part, Dr’s in a CRISIS, let alone a PANDEMIC, do NOT have the time to diagnose each and every individual situation. They ONLY know that the patient has Covid 19, and they need to do x,y, z to combat and mitigate it. the PROTOCOL.

      As the symptoms get WORSE, the protocol says do this, then THAT. Drs, can adjust, but they basically FOLLOW the protocol to the “T”. now, when people get worse after x and y do NOT mitigate, the protocol says do Z, intubate of ventilator.

      IF this study and article is RIGHT, that is the WORST thing to do and WOULD explain the 85% that DIE from this once on a ventilator. Lung function via diaphragm is NOT the problem, NOR is Lung capacity. Lack or O2 exchange in the BLOOD and EARLY and MASSIVE release of IRON in the body is. Mechanical ventilation will ONLY make the body, lungs, and HEAR work HARDER, trying to make up the difference. It would do NOTHING for the hypoxia.

      Quite simply you literally die from lack of oxygen. NOT from capacity FOR that oxygen. Not from reduced lung capacity or function (which is what a vent does it tries to make “flooded” lungs PUSH wore oxygen out to the body. The PROBLEM is what they are pushing does not have the KEY ingredient, Oxygen.

      Now the BAD BAD part. Someone somewhere WROTE this protocol that nearly everyone is following. They did this WITHOUT doing BASIC blood tests for FE, and Hemoglobin. Had they DONE that, they would have KNOWN it was not Pneumonia (fluid in the lungs and reduced capacity from it) but REDUCED OXYGEN in the BLOOD itself. Even the o2 meters only measure the amount of oxygen getting OUT, but NOT the amount of oxygen IN the blood. They ASSUMED it was lack of function (pneumonia) and NOT lack of o2 in the blood (Hypoxia).

      The fact that they are NOT altering the protocol, or even TESTING for it to SEE if they need to, speaks VOLUMES.

      Then the WORST part. They have their own Code for Covid 19, and that is coding, IE BILLING. That is why EVERYTHING is chalked up to Covid 19, to get PAID, since nearly EVERYTHING else is shut down. ALL about money.

      There seems to be NO urgency to adjust EITHER the protocol for treatment OR the billing for it. What does THAT tell you.

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        1. I would not DOUBT, that one of THREE suspects wrote that protocol, Fauci, Birx, the head of the CDC or Rosenstein’s sister. There is ALSO the posability that this entire thing was patterned after the “mock” conference Gates held a few months ago. We already know it was EEIRILY similar to what actually happened. We all know that Fauci and Birx USED and are USING the IHME model, written by Chis Murphy, but FUNDED by Bill Gates. I would not doubt for a second that the ventilator protocol was BOTH written by someone on Gate’s payroll, and highlighted in both the mock up conference, AND in the IHME study.

          IF true, and I am RIGHT, and that study about Hypoxia is RIGHT, someone has BLOOD on their hands, and BETTER pay.

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          1. Key Point: CHYNA was used to MODEL to the rest of the world how grim and hopeless THEIR protocol was. Our minds were already being conditioned to accept their death-by-hospital strategy without questioning.

            #CCP #GATES Lied. People Died.

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  11. Anybody giving this Alex guy a look?

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  12. From the White House to my inbox:

    FOX NEWS article by Rep. Roger Marshall: China’s coronavirus reckoning – act now to end US dependency for drugs, medical supplies

    Quote:

    “Having practiced medicine for nearly 30 years, I have seen how foreign dependence, specifically on imports from China, harms the medical supply chain and our readiness for an outbreak firsthand.

    Just five years ago, I noticed supply shortages even in the course of normal events. Common items like IV solutions and disposable surgical devices, as well as many anesthesia medications, became difficult, if not impossible, to obtain. Surveying the problem, there was a common denominator: “Made in China.”

    For years, China has created artificial medical supply shortages because they know we depend on their imports. The COVID-19 pandemic has exacerbated problems that were already festering. As a result, the entire country is feeling the impact of our foreign dependence and a weak medical supply chain. It is threatening our long-term health as a nation and it must be confronted with real action. I am supporting two plans that would immediately do so.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/coronavirus-china-drug-supply-chain-roger-marshall

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    1. There are currently no FDA inspectors in China.
      An FDA inspector in the USA has the right to enter any facility at any time = spot inspections and unexpected.
      In China, our FDA inspectors travel with a green passport = China knows when they arrive, which hotel, and make prior arrangements for inspection = the best possible review.
      Take a look at the reports, even then.
      Jack Maxie went over it on War Room Pandemic. The results are red alarm, crazy.

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      1. We saw it in food over a decade ago.

        We tax payers pay out over 1/2 of what we earn and get NO actual safety measures from the FDA/USDA.

        The New York Times article “The Safety Gap” written by Gardiner Harris, 11/2/2008
        *http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/magazine/02fda-t.html

        This year, [2008] 18.2 million shipments of food, devices, cosmetics and drugs are expected to enter more than 300 U.S. ports; the FDA. had 454 investigators in 2007 — one and a half per port — to scrutinize them..”

        “China’s leap to one of the biggest suppliers of pharmaceutical ingredients in the world over the last decade [note the date], Generic drug makers in the United States, where price competition is fierce, were the first to seek cheaper drug ingredients… Over the past six years, the F.D.A. has managed to inspect annually an average of just 15 of the 714 Chinese drug plants that export to the United States. At its present pace, the FDA. would need more than 50 years to visit all Chinese plants. By contrast, the FDA. inspects domestic drug plants every 2.7 years ”

        This Report Rips FDA Oversight Of Produce

        FDA’s efforts to combat foodborne illness are hampered by staffing shortages, infrequent inspections and lax enforcement at fresh produce processing plants, according to congressional investigators. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) report also said only 1% of produce imported into the U.S. is inspected, and the practice of mixing produce from several sources makes tracing contamination challenging…The report said inspections at produce-processing facilities are rare, and when problems are discovered, FDA relies on the industry to correct them without oversight or follow-up.
        Between 2000 and 2007, FDA detected food safety problems at more than 40% of the 2,002 plants inspected, yet half of those plants were inspected only once. The plants with food safety problems received only warning letters from FDA, and even those ended in 2005…

        Salmonella Source Found

        The Salmonella strain associated with the latest foodborne illness outbreak has been found, in irrigation water as well as in a sample from some serrano peppers at a Mexican farm. The farm is located in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. “The agency seized no fresh produce, sought no injunctions and prosecuted no firms” http://www.americanvegetablegrower.com/veggie_bytes/page.php?page=crops_markets#fdafouled

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        1. “By contrast, the FDA. inspects domestic drug plants every 2.7 years”

          !!! In the 80s I worked in a food processing plant in the US. The FDA had an office with 2 or 3 full time employees in the building. Inspections of one type or another were daily.

          I never figured out if the FDA paid rent to the company for the office space, or if the company was just expected to provide the space for free and absorb that as a cost of doing business.

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  13. The movie contagion had gates dream plan. A vaccine for a deadly virus and people wearing an id tag to show they had gotten the vaccine.

    And what movie keeps playing on Netflix?

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    1. I’ve posted this before but it deserves a review . . .

      “Contagion”: How Disaster Movies “Educate” the Masses
      Published 8 years ago on March 8, 2012
      By Vigilant Citizen
      https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/contagion-or-how-disaster-movies-educate-the-masses/

      In the wake of this “crisis” [H1N1 Swine Flu PR disaster], the UN’s World Health Organization (known as the WHO) was harshly criticized and even accused of colluding with Big Pharma to sell vaccines. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (the CDC) also had its credibility tarnished as investigations revealed that the agency misled the public regarding the number of actual cases of H1N1 (for example, see this report from CBS News). As a result, these two agencies needed a good PR stunt to restore their credibility and to scare the hell out of the public. This is where Contagion comes in.

      Directed by Steven Soderbergh, Contagion was produced with the active cooperation of the CDC, the WHO and other governmental organizations and its function is clear: To present a hyper-realistic disaster scenario to justify the vaccination campaigns promoted by these agencies while discrediting those who criticize them.

      Nothing in the movie hints that it is a work of fiction. Quite to the contrary, everything in Contagion is made to be as realistic as possible, using actual locations and governmental agencies, to make the story as plausible – and as frightening to the masses – as possible. As the slogan of the movie says: “Nothing spreads like fear” and, boy, does it try to spread fear. This movie’s message is: “Nothing was exaggerated, and next time there’s a virus outbreak, listen to us … or you’ll die”.

      How the Movie “Contagion” Laid the Blueprint for the Coronavirus Outbreak
      In the midst of the coronavirus panic, the 2011 movie “Contagion” became one of the most-watched movies online. Here’s a look at the main themes of the movie and how they are becoming a reality in 2020.
      Published 4 weeks ago on March 11, 2020
      By Vigilant Citizen
      https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/how-the-movie-contagion-laid-the-blueprint-for-the-coronavirus-outbreak/

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      1. Movie also had the cure found in a level 3 or 4 bio lab. The reason for the virus bats. FYI cure happens months or years later it’s been a while since I’ve seen it.

        The ending shows the environment being destroyed by a USA company in China bat flies into pig holding pen and cross contamination. So yes way too many hints.

        Happens at thanksgiving, no one wanting to shut it down. Officials saving family, panic buying, telling so telling

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  14. He knows…..

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  15. May God have mercy….

    FTA…

    Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday……

    …..When the funeral homes opened to distributed ashes two weekends ago, witnesses estimated that some funeral homes were distributing as many as 5,000 sets of remains a day. Estimates as to the number of sets of remains distributed last week in Wuhan range from 30,000 to 46,000 people……

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  16. I just have to rant. We got two more cases in our county and a “exposure” at the local nursing home (which I’d true, is not good).

    The nurse I know is going off that we are PEAKING AND THE SKY HAS FALLEN AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO PANIC IN TOWN AND IT IS AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!

    I had to rebuke her. She is the voice of our local clinic on the tele-health line.

    The medical personnel are being spun up….those very people that need to remain calm, fixed on facts and not fear.

    Unbelievable.

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    1. They are often VERY closed minded. I have had a lot of arguments with doctors over the years. And had more than one ask on a second visit “How in heck did you know that?”

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      1. Arrogance and pride is a universal human affliction.

        Solomon wrote about the man in the city who knew how to save it, but no one listened to him because he was a man of no position.

        People are no better today.

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  17. POTUS was right about this week being really hard. There have already been more deaths today than the previous high on 4/4. And it’s just Tuesday. Prayers that it’s much less than forecast.

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    1. Do not forget that ALL likely deaths are being coded as Covid-19 whether they are or not.

      Socialists LIE!

      You can see MOST Pneumonia deaths no matter what the cause are getting listed as Civid-19 from this chart.

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  18. I’ve been talking with an engineer who has done all his own modeling based on nation and his home state statistics.

    He says that based on his model the IHME is far too conservative in its construction.

    The model he built can fluctuate wildly between extremes depending on the assumptions he puts in. At the high end it can estimate 20 million U.S. deaths, but on the extreme low end it models 100k to 200k total U.S. deaths.

    In his opinion, the IHME is too low.

    I respect his engineering abilities to generate models. Normally his models are impeccable and can be taken to the bank.

    That said I want to point out that estimation of viral penetrance and death rates is NOT the same as modeling transitive load over complex power circuits.

    Also, his calculation of the death rate is a standard mathematical calculation. That’s fine, however we’ve also had plenty of discussion that the death rate is not as simple as “numerator over total denominator”. His death rates are coming out much higher as well.

    While the exact same statistical analysis techniques apply, virii are biological entities that do not follow the predictable physical models that voltage and current do. There are no Maxwell’s Equations for epidemics. They don’t behave like discrete particles.

    This doesn’t include many other road hazards:

    * TGP reports data are being deleted from websites (*https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-covid-tracking-website-deletes-information-hospitalizations-icu-patients-tgp-reports-numbers-fall-bogus-model-predictions/)

    * Hospitals continue to have motivation to improperly code cause of death (*https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/04/07/fudging-numbers-cdc-tells-hospitals-to-list-covid-as-cause-of-death-even-if-youre-just-assuming-or-it-only-contributed/)

    * TGP observing/reporting that the IHME models are over-reporting deaths even with the above (*https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/updating-predictions-sunday-latest-ihme-predictions-already-20-actual-numbers-may-looking-46000-total-us-coronavirus-deaths-less/)

    One key counterpoint can be made to all the above . . .

    “What we’re doing with mitigation is working”

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  19. Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
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    Apr 5 · 8 min read
    *https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb

    N.B.: Archive.org. Copying here for CONTINUITY AND ARCHIVE:

    ~ ~ ~

    In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

    There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.

    The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.

    Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.

    Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.

    When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.

    Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

    1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.

    2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others. Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

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    Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT). BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.

    Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.

    The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.

    Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.

    The story with Hydroxychloroquine

    All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.

    How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.

    No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.

    Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.

    Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:

    1. Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.

    2. Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.

    3. Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.

    4. Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.

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  20. I guess that’s why they wrapped up the Star Wars and Marvel franchises in 2019. They knew 2020 would be a bust with all the movie theaters closed, and a drastically reduced, socially-distanced, “certified recovered” audience when they re-open.

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  21. A shot across the bow…..

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    1. And this email just arrived from the White House…..

      “Today, April 7, is World Health Day. Amid the global Coronavirus pandemic, it’s a moment to acknowledge the incredible work being done to protect the health and well-being of our fellow Americans.

      As President Trump writes in his Message for World Health Day 2020:

      The United States will defeat this invisible enemy. On this World Health Day, Melania and I join a grateful Nation in paying tribute to all of our doctors, nurses, healthcare administrators, researchers, scientists, educators, public health officials, and all of the extraordinary men and women who are helping diagnose, heal, inform, protect, and reassure the American people.
      The best way to thank healthcare workers today is by each of us doing our part to stop this virus. Every American should follow the simple and necessary precautions outlined in President Trump’s 30-Day Coronavirus Guidelines.”

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  22. Delivery of groceries is taking 2-3 weeks including a fee. If you want to order and pick up, theres a fee. Grocery stores are exempt from these social distancing requirements per even Gruesome.
    So the point of this is what?
    I guess they dont want shoppers for making a Easter dinner?
    They want social unrest?
    Ralphs says in some places they will force customers to move only 1 direction in the store.
    How is this going to work?
    The elderly get to stand in line all morning? A lot of people avoid walmart to go to the regular store and dont want to be out, yet cant afford more than a weeks worth of stuff.

    KTLA (@KTLA) Tweeted:
    Starting Tuesday, Kroger, which operates Ralphs and Food 4 Less, will reduce its store capacity by 50%

    https://t.co/wfpHi7Kbvg https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1247555882658885633?s=20

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