20200328: CoronaCRISIS/China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

(Placeholder for the WH Daily Presser)

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

399 thoughts on “20200328: CoronaCRISIS/China Virus Daily Thread

  1. Thought I’d add another aspect for the hit that small business owners are taking from the Wuhan Coronavirus:
    Those of us who are rental property owners are starting to feel it.
    NOT whining. Just describing another item in this whole mess.
    I have tenants who can’t pay their rent because they’ve been laid off (blue-collar, don’t do the telecommuting thing). I can’t tell them to go an apply for a job at Kroger. I can’t evict these tenants due to the emergency orders in place in the states where I have these properties — and since I believe the path of “do no harm” is to NOT evict them, at least they’ll have a roof over their heads until things get better. Then we’ll work something out. .
    I have a couple of rental properties that are vacant because Realtors are not permitted to show real estate on-site, etc.: plus, people aren’t looking for rentals at this point anyway.
    My cashflow from these properties is way down. The “flip side” of this cashflow loss is that I’m still paying the property taxes, insurance, etc.
    I know that at some point, this situation will turn around. But for now — so much for this “stream of income” for retirement….

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    1. FWIW, any job is better than no job. There is no shame about working at Kroger.

      My local Kroger put out a notice on the local boards: PLEASE WE ARE HIRING, NEED PEOPLE!!!

      They said the first people to get jobs will be people who are out of work.

      It really made me happy to see how the grocery stores are pitching in to help the unemployed too!

      A temporary job to get over the hump is still a good job. I’d be out delivering pizzas if I needed to.

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  2. DO NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING FROM CHINA!!

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    1. Awesome.

      We pack and ship masks to China as part of “humanitarian aid”

      They ship us back crap masks they manufactured that don’t work.

      One heck of a racket.

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  3. On the unpredictability of WuFlu and why people are scared:

    “‘She just had a cough’: Teen’s COVID-19 death shakes France”
    https://www.france24.com/en/20200327-she-just-had-a-cough-teen-s-covid-19-death-shakes-france

    She was 16 years old with no underlying health conditions mentioned. She came down with a cough and became short of breath, and her condition rapidly deteriorated. I also find it interesting that she was tested several times for WuFlu, and was at first said to be negative. Faulty Chinese test kit?

    “A week ago, 16-year-old Julie came down with a slight cough. On Wednesday, she became France’s youngest COVID-19 fatality, shaking a nation hit by a spiralling health crisis.”

    “For many people, the high school student’s death brought home what experts have warned — the new virus is not a threat only to the elderly or people with underlying medical problems.”

    Something doesn’t add up. Why the severity in some people, if age and preexisting conditions are not factors?

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    1. I was told there are several strains, including an l strain. Maybe someone can try to verify if that is true. Seem to remember also that there was a man in Iceland who had several strains of it.

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  4. It looks like the Plaquenil and Zithromax combo kills off most of the virus on day 2, per Dr. Raoult. And here is an abstract from 2005 which most likely explains how this happens.

    rol J. 2005 Aug 22;2:69.
    Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
    Vincent MJ1, Bergeron E, Benjannet S, Erickson BR, Rollin PE, Ksiazek TG, Seidah NG, Nichol ST.
    Author information
    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:
    Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.

    RESULTS:
    We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.

    CONCLUSION:
    Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.

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  5. It looks like the Plaquenil and Zithromax combo kills off most of the virus on day 2, per Dr. Raoult.

    And here is an abstract from 2005 which most likely explains how this happens.

    Virol J. 2005 Aug 22;2:69.
    Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
    Vincent MJ1, Bergeron E, Benjannet S, Erickson BR, Rollin PE, Ksiazek TG, Seidah NG, Nichol ST.
    Author information
    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:
    Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.

    RESULTS:
    We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.

    CONCLUSION:
    Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Chloroquine+as+a+potent+inhibitor+SARS+2005

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    1. Big uptick by Day 6 in control group. Looks like immune system alone can only fight this off about 3 days. Tired of reading French for tonight. Time for cognac.

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      1. “These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

        The money sentence from this abstract.

        Like

  6. Found this on the chans. The British woman filming the video claims that she saw the police escort a man from her apartment building. The men in the hazmat suits showed up 10 minutes later claiming that the same man died hours ago. This is the letter they gave to apartment residents.

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    1. Bonus: One of the hazmat men removes his mask at 1:40. If you thought there was a need to wear a hazmat suit, then why are you removing your mask to talk?

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      1. Yeah, I think this is a poorly done psy-op to perform anti-viral sanitation in public areas of privately owned buildings. The psychological ploy is to have a “homeless” crisis actor (“rough sleeper”) take up residence briefly, drag him out, claim he died, and spray the building. The FAKE DEATH makes it acceptable to the residents. They never thought somebody would question the poorly done timeline.

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  7. I’ve never read anyone “stressing out” at all, but here’s what a couple of people in the area of Pahrump are saying.

    #1: Ladies and gentlemen stop stressing over things that you have no control over you wondering who’s going to get it when it’s going to happen how much is it going to be is a waste of energy all you should be doing is living in the essence of love be kind to one another help one another and if it comes to it the 2nd Amendment might be the only thing left that we will have to hang on to. there’s more going on than most people even know just be prepared to protect yourself and the ones U love.

    #2: I agree, CHILL OUT, even if you get it there is low % of people dying, you may get sick for a bit that’s it.

    Me? I’m not even going to enter this fray!

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  9. This would be great!

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    1. Quote: “Scientists around the world are tracking at least eight strains of coronavirus around the world, using genetic detective work to show how the virus spreads.

      Researchers say the virus appears to mutate very slowly, with only tiny differences between the different strains, and that none of the strains of the virus is more deadly than another.

      They also say it does not appear the strains will grow more lethal as they evolve.”

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  10. I found this published (26 Mar 2020) scientific paper, which is meta study of already published research papers:

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 with or without diabetes: A systematic search and a narrative review with a special reference to India and other developing countries

    Highlights

    Some drugs have been tried for Coronavirus Disease-2019 (COVID-19).

    Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine has shown some promise in treatment of COVID-19 and should be fast tracked for further research.

    We also present available guidelines and propose use of these drugs in COVID-19.

    Abstract
    Background and aims
    No drugs are currently approved for Coronavirus Disease-2019 (COVID-19), although some have been tried. In view of recent studies and discussion on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), we aimed to review existing literature and relevant websites regarding these drugs and COVID-19, adverse effects related to drugs, and related guidelines.

    Aims and methods
    We systematically searched the PubMed database up till March 21, 2020 and retrieved all the articles published on chloroquine and HCQ and COVID-19.

    Results
    Two small human studies have been conducted with both these drugs in COVID-19, and have shown significant improvement in some parameters in patients with COVID-19.

    Conclusion
    Considering minimal risk upon use, a long experience of use in other diseases, cost-effectiveness and easy availability across India, we propose that both these drugs are worthy of fast track clinical trial for treatment, and may be carefully considered for clinical use as experimental drugs. Since HCQ has been approved for treatment of diabetes in India, it should be further researched in diabetes and COVID-19, a subgroup where significant mortality has been shown.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871402120300515

    It even reference a Chinese study of 100 and this early result led China to include chloroquine in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 pneumonia

    “3.2. Studies conducted with chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in human COVID-19
    The anti-viral and anti-inflammatory actions of chloroquine have led to numerous trials urgently in the face of global health emergency. A Chinese study involving more than 100 patients of COVID-19 found chloroquine superior to the control group in reducing symptom duration, exacerbation of pneumonia including radiological improvement and promoting virus-negative seroconversion without any severe side effects [18]. This represents the first human trial ever conducted with chloroquine against COVID-19. Although the detailed results of this trial are not yet published and only available in a letter form, interestingly, this early result led China to include chloroquine in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 pneumonia. Moreover, The National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China recommended inclusion of chloroquine in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19. In this study, chloroquine was given in dose of 500 mg of chloroquine twice daily in mild to severe COVID-19 pneumonia (see Table 1)…..”

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