20200327: CoronaCRISIS/China Crisis Daily Thread + Dear Congress, Please Get Your Act Together

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
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  • Other news items

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Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

383 thoughts on “20200327: CoronaCRISIS/China Crisis Daily Thread + Dear Congress, Please Get Your Act Together

    1. Cuomo ~”Hospitals don’t need Ventilators yet”
      Reporter asks Cuomo if they have ventilators in storage like Trump said:
      “That is incorrect and grossly uninformed.”
      Then Says:
      “We have ventilators in a stockpile & we didn’t send to the hospitals yet”Thinking face

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    1. Ben White is the Chief Economic Editor for Politico.
      Jesse Lee used to be the Senior Advisor and in charge of Comms for Speaker Pelosi, AND Special Assistant to Obama.

      Yeah…….. Trump standing and taking questions, slicing and dicing the media, is killing the left…… those who are looking at this pandemic via a political lens.

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  1. Annoying Reporter: Can you promise that everyone who needs a ventilator will get one?
    POTUS: Don’t be a Cutie Pie…..Wise Guy.

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  2. Wow just a wonderful day to be outside. Most everyone was out and about cleaning their back yards.

    My neighbor tells me he’s turned off the MSM. He said he’s sick of the BS and that America needs to get back to work asap.

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  3. Here is the famous tweet, NYHealth Officials encourage people to go out and attend a festival in Chinatown. Accuse administration of disinformation on Coronavirus.
    This was 10 days AFTER Sec Azar declared a National Health Emergency, and the Trump Admin ordered testing of arrivals from China at NY airports beginning January 21st.

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        1. She believed the timeline. She believed the ChiComs. She believed the lying head of WHO, puppet of the CCP. Worst of all, she believed the LYING ChiCom-Led Soviet Fake News Media.

          The Boy Scout motto is BE PREPARED. But these people denigrated the Boy Scouts, and look where it got them.

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  4. My fav is: “Hold on, let me get this straight. The governments’ telling me to sit right here, and do nothing for weeks? That’s the most sense they’ve ever made.”

    What’s bad is I do couponing as well so I fully understand.

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  5. Sending Breakfast/Lunch to school children during a pandemic is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
    Just because these families are poor, doesn’t mean someone can’t make a peanut butter sandwich.
    So, USPS, UPS, and PepsiCo are sending BOXES with 2 weeks worth of food, even to rural families.
    So, we’re clogging the delivery system.
    Probably with Broccoli that the kids won’t eat.

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    1. There are pros and cons. Some kids just don’t have good parents, rich or poor, city or country, north or south, east or west..

      Some ‘parents’ will sell the meals for drugs. The kids will still go hungry…for food and love and guidance and stability and safety.

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    2. ‘course you and I don’t think kids are properly fed with boxed food designed to last two weeks! Yech.

      We want their Mama’s to serve fresh vegetables, freshly squeezed orange juice, fresh eggs, vegetable soup, chicken and rice, corn bread, fresh hand shelled butter beans and peas, okra and tomatoes, pecan pie and home made ice cream…. pies and muffins!

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  6. https://gab.com/AdanSalazar/posts/103897319907590518

    Alex Jones reposted

    1h
    Adan Salazar
    Verified Account
    @AdanSalazar

    Texas Judge: National Guard Troops to Conduct Door-to-door #Coronavirus Checkups – https://www.infowars.com/texas-judge-national-guard-troops-to-conduct-door-to-door-coronavirus-checkups/

    Texas Judge: National Guard Troops to Conduct Door-to-door Coronavirus Checkups
    Dallas County judge says troops will be on ‘medical mission’ inquiring about contact with coronavirus patients

    http://www.infowars.com

    3 6 9

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      1. Yeah – I want them in full battle gear, helmets, goggles, armor when they go around the neighborhoods. Maybe drive a tank or armored troop carrier fan out in platoons!!!

        That would be so much fun in neighborhoods with dealers, gangs and illegals!

        :8-D

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        1. Yeah, I wonder how much of this “medical mission” is about rooting out drug dealers and other scum. Remember folks, we allegedly found Osama bin Laden via a “medical mission” (faux CIA vaccine program).

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      1. Remember that they are replacing nurses who do the exact same thing – go from house to house to check on patients as part of in home care.

        they are no more likely to spread the virus than are the nurses as long as they take the same precautions as the nurses.

        this is not a new service, just being shifted to the military to free nurses to cover nursing shortages due to ill nurses and due to increase in patient load.

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    1. This is good news…Hospital through put is a major issue and strategy.

      Everyone is being pushed to the next farthest level to make room for incoming ICU WuFlu patients. Feds have rolled back red tape and regulations specifically for this.

      Patients that would normally stay in the hospital are being pushed out early to the skilled care and patients that would normally be in skilled care are being pushed to home/self care that are dependent on visits from home health care workers/nurses.

      One of the many challenges with this plan is the sudden surge in demand of patients at home and need for home health care workers and nurses to do the home visits and check on the patients.

      This is a solution to help facilitate changes of standards who are going to be at home that might have been in skilled care in normal times.

      this is also a working solution to free nurses to be in the hospitals giving skilled care to both meet the increasing demand for nurses as patients surge + help to cover for the increasing number of nurses who are sick themselves with WuFlu. Shortages in nurses and medical care due to increasing medical workers having Wuflu and increasing WuFlu patients.

      So glad so much of fed gov and private industry including healthy care companies are forward thinking!

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    2. This sounds like cover for some other military operation. “Pay no attention to those men in military gear! They’re nurses! And don’t get too close and try to take pictures or anything because you don’t want to risk getting sick.Just stay at home and don’t investigate, citizen!”

      “Medical mission,” my foot.

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      1. Shhhh. 😉

        Agreed. Like I love to say, “No cover like reality.”

        AND logic.

        Someday I’ll go back and identify the Sandy Hook researcher who flipped the switch and turned on the lights. I owe that boy a LOT. From there, it was VEGAS where I suddenly realized that there was BS layered on reality.

        Once the White Hats knew the virus op was GO and irreversible, the rest of the script wrote itself.

        “You’re watching a movie.” YUP.

        Should be rather exciting.

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  7. Media being media, again.
    THIS is why it’s so important to see the whole presser for ourselves and NOT rely on the filter of the media.

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    1. Based on my own experience, if you THINK you might have it, it changes behavior, and reduces the chance of spousal transmission. I didn’t think I had it, so my wife kept in contact and she got it. She MAY have gotten it before I became symptomatic, but not sure. More likely AFTER I became symptomatic, because she didn’t separate herself from me.

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  8. Bwwhahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OMG, we have the best President, ever.
    Now i get it.
    Worth every penny of the 25 million dollars.
    Trump just appointed 10 members to the Board of Trustees to the Kennedy Center.
    Among them, Mike Huckabee and Jon Voight.

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    1. That adds a Very Different perspective to the NY #s. They are not spiking merely due to widespread testing catching mild & non symptomatic cases as some have thought (and I thought was happening in NYC) but are due to more people being really ill. :-0
      Good to know many extra ventilators are ready in NYC and 100K more in 100 days. Hope we do not need them.

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  9. http://www.wkyc.com/
    Updated 6:14PM March 27, 2020

    DR. AMY ACTON, Department of Health Director for OHIO, said this afternoon that the state will have 10,000 new cases of the Wuhan Coronavirus PER DAY by the projected peak in late APRIL. These figures are based on data and projections from the Cleveland Clinic.

    700WLW, Cincinnati
    Gov. DEWINE of Ohio will call up the National Guard to start building temporary hospitals, in addition to converting hotels and college dorms into hospital rooms.

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  10. Ok I have kinda held my tongue about Gov Cuomo (well to some extent). I have seen the PCs, I have read as much as I can about what is going on in NYC and I want to offer my point of view. Feel free to disagree, offer additional points ..whatever. I am not an expert just someone interpreting what is going on.

    This guy (or guys..DeBlasio too) is messing up completely. In a really bad way and it is affecting the country. Why?

    The governor cannot tell you what each hospital needs. He has anecdotal information, He uses projections based on positive testing. He doesn’t even know where his supplies are. Pres Trump embarassed him by providing a photo of ventilators delivered to a warehouse in NJ.

    He should be getting/giving a rundown of what each hospital needs on a daily basis. All of them, Every one. Tell us one by one. Then his people should be matching up that with their actual supply chain. The PPEs can be managed effectively with a precise focus on inventory. The ventilators are a different issue. He can’t possibly handle 30,000 ventilators. Not doable. Not enough trained personnel to deal with it. Plus the needs vary from hospital to hospital. That is a panic-stricken projection that they have not thought through.

    We need to give him what he needs in a timely way but not dump it on his lap all at once. That jeopardizes the needs of other states. Now Pres Trump is marshalling as many resources as he can get. Even dropped the hammer on that Dem lady who runs GM. But Cuomo/DeBlasio are harming the response that the Feds can give other states.

    Cuomo needs to alter his approach to become more granular in his assessments for the public. He needs a superior supply chain management guy. Top notch. Someone who can walk in and help NYC out ASAP. He and DeBlasio need to assign state/local people in every single hospital in the city so they can report accurately. Perhaps cases can be tranferred to other hospitals (probably already thought of but hey).

    This blame game is getting tiresome and it is affected the needs of other cities by diverting Federal attention to solving their problems for them.

    Basically Cuomo and DeBlasio are in waaaayyy over their heads and they are not smart enough to organize their actions to address their needs effectively in a timely way. I haven’t even touched on their policy decisions or the statements of the people they hired. Their liberal inclinations are biting their ass now and they hired incompetent people. It is affecting the entire nation now.

    OK just some thoughts. Fire away. I am sure I got some things wrong but I am frustrated. I am in NY and it is changing what we do even here in upstate NY. I don’t see an end yet. Go easy..I am a novice at this.

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    1. ^^^AGREE 100%^^^ – wish YOU could get them straightened out….or PDJT could send some people to manage resources. I’ve decided Democrats can’t do or manage or fix diddly squat!!! (southern expression)

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    2. Yep. Yep. And Yep.
      Cuomo HAS to get a grip on the hospital conditions and manage the inventory. It’s Obvious he has no clue.
      AND
      That’s why Blasio keeps calling for the Military to take over. He can’t handle it either.
      Sad that Dumb and Dumberer are in charge of NY.

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    3. The Dems tried to force communism on Trump, and he is forcing AMERICANISM back on them. By putting the responsibility on Cuomo and de Blasio, their PC is now running up against REALITY. Utopian socialism is running out of everybody else’s everything.

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        1. Yup. Just being honest with oneself first, and then with others.

          I think Cuomo’s probably not as out to lunch as de Blasio. Maybe he should put the NG in charge of NYC, reporting to him. Do you think people would be OK with that? I sure would.

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    4. NYGuy….I think you are pretty much on target.
      From what I’ve read, voter turnout in NYC is so low it is why people like AOC can get elected with something like 16,000 voters….and it’s equally bad for important offices like Mayor. And, that’s not even addressing the corruption and fraud of the unions.
      So, in some respects if you elect incompetent politicians who are in it for the money how an you expect them to actually run a city in a crisis? It’s a parallel situation to the hurricane in Puerto Rico.
      Isn’t it ironic that all the former “jewels” … the glamorous paradise of Los Angeles, the uniqueness of San Francisco, where everyone left their hearts…and the center of the world with the lights of Broadway, the Big Apple….have become rotting, empty shells…going the way of Detroit and Chicago. And the apathy of the citizens just allowed it to happen.
      Why would anyone go there now…they have nothing to positive to offer. JMO

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    1. France is not and may never have been a well-run country. They’ve got the EU problem, the leftist Macron problem, the Antifa posing as yellow vests problem, the influx of Islamists problem. They’ve got rapes, car burnings, high taxes…. lots of over-burdened, unhappy unsafe people!

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  11. FL/GA CORONAVIRUS REPORT/COMPARISON:

    FL TESTS
    3/26/20
    28,644 tests
    24,553 negative
    2,359 positive

    3/27 AM
    32,468 tests
    28,186 negative
    2,765 positive

    3/27 PM
    33,822 tests
    30,766 negative
    3,054 positive

    GA TESTS
    3/27 AM
    Lab – Positive Tests – Total Tests
    Commercial Lab – 1739 – 8119
    GPHL – 263 – 1746
    3/27 PM
    Commercial Lab – 1933 – 8119
    GPHL – 265 – 1746

    FL/GA STATISTICS + Counties where I have family members.
    3/23/20 – MONDAY
    FL – 18 deaths – 1412 cases – 194 hospitalizations – Leon 7 – Suwannee 0
    GA – 32 deaths – 1026 cases – ? hospitalizations – Lowndes 10
    3/27/20 – FRIDAY PM
    FL – 46 deaths – 3,198 cases – 503 hospitalizations – Leon 12 – Suwannee 1
    GA – 65 deaths – 2,198 cases – 607 hospitalizations – Lowndes 20 cases/1 death

    LINKS
    FLORIDA – updates 12 pm/7 pm – https://floridahealthcovid19.gov
    GEORGIA – updates 12 pm/7 pm – https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report

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    1. Are those totals Accumulative?
      As in, new test numbers added to the previous totals.

      Or are they totals of New tests…in addition to the other totals?

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      1. Florida has gone all out on their CCV website – revamping it frequently to offer better data, clarity, visual impact. Florida has a great disaster pages, etc. I guess we are more geared to disasters with the hurricanes and more interested in protecting our elders.

        GA is stingy with its one page…and refused to give information re: travel because of ‘stigma’ and PC.

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    1. Very haute art….a happening.

      So many symbolisms and metaphors, every kind, every level.

      It’s just perfect that he’s Asian….and the beer is Corona.

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      1. A Chinese sword would have been a nice touch, but the chopsticks are good. It needs a bat.

        He’s more of a swine flu persona, don’t you think, with the short nose, rounded face and body.

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        1. Larry Klayman with Judicial Watch filed a $20 trillion suit in Texas, everyone can join. Also saw tweets of other lawyers in FL.

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    1. It’s well past the time to get truckloads of HCQ and Z-Paks out to at least everyone who is in the serious or critical WuFlu categories . . . then work down from there with the available doses.

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      1. Will be a HUGE game changer for hospital saturation which is an issue that brings its own crisis. reduce hospital stays and reduce length of those who are admitted. medical stay begin to take as a prevented would be a huge game changer for understaffing due to illness/medical staff becoming contaminated.

        impact on need for new meds and vaccine – Huge

        So excited about this

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    1. The ChiComs operate the biggest Troll Farms on the planet.

      I’ve seen bootlegged pics of rooms full of iPhones mounted on cubicle walls…with each person operating dozens iPhones, posting the prescribed propaganda online.

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  12. According to worldometers, the U.S. now has 2,463 serious and critical cases of the WuFlu in the country. If I remember reading correctly, you would be classified as serious if you need supplemental oxygen. About 1/3 of the total serious and critical cases need mechanical ventilation. That would be 821 cases that need mechanical ventilation in the U.S.

    New York currently has about 43% of the active WuFlu cases in the country. Assuming an even distribution of the cases across the country, then New York currently needs about 343 ventilators. Naturally they need to have a safety margin, and the number of ventilators needed by NY is growing rapidly.

    So they don’t need an emergency drop of 30,000 to 40,000 ventilators. They have a certain number in use now, and 2,000 more should keep them going for, maybe, 12 days at the present growth rate of about 15%.

    That’s not much time, so more ventilators will be needed very shortly if that growth rate continues, reaching 30,000 ventilators in about 32 days . . . again, if that growth rate continues and ignoring any ventilators that may be freed up by the recovery or death of the user.

    The bottom line is that if the WuFlu continues to grow across the country at anything near a 15% growth rate, we will, indeed, needs lots of ventilators quickly.

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    1. Yep, tsunami is coming and the hospitals and President Trump see it – hence all of the drastic actions of the last weeks to do their best to prepare. We are SO Blessed to have President Trump as POTUS right now as NO ONE else could have accomplished what he has!

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  13. Cuomo admitting he doesn’t need 30,000 ventilators yet. They are a projection

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        1. I was carried away by the thought and the moment, so . . .

          I just ordered 3 pounds of juicy pastrami, a jar of deli mustard and a loaf of rye bread shipped out.

          Sorry, I’m drooling on the keyboard.

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  14. Hannity- Dr. Oz reporting 1) New test just approved can have results in 5 minutes. Up to 5million tests/day can be used to track virus. 2) French Dr. did larger study using hydroxychloroquine and zpac, 79 out of 80 patients recovered. Also helps to shed virus quicker. 3) Plasma test on ICU patients, 5 of 5 recovered.
    6) NY chloroquine trial being done on 250 patients, don’t expect results for a few weeks. 7) Lots of Medical staff taking chloroquine as prevention to keep from getting virus. The NY guy in scrubs who did video calling it Biblical was on Tucker and admitted taking for prevention.

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    1. Some of the gov orders re prescribing meds was aimed at stockpiling for use as a preventative.

      but this also means a preventative was known …. grrrr…..

      But cutting the length of stay in the hospital will Change Everything!

      >>Statistics Alert<<
      …just scroll if you don't like stats….

      Question: Serious cases are listed as ~2,500 in the US as of right now on the site WP hates.

      But there are more than 2,500 hospitalized…rightt?

      503 listed as hospitalized FL as of tonight…or is that were hospitalized at any time and includes “resolved” cases that have passed away or ongoing cases but those well enough to be discharged to home care? Confused and wish I had better data.

      I have been playing with #s for the last hour and hospital saturation is one of the top concerns in this pandemic and to avoid becoming an Italy…anyone else hospitalization rates v. "serious" cases? Are the "serious cases" on the site that shall not be named accurate?

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    2. A very good thing they are taking it. I believe that lung damage like mine can be PREVENTED that way.

      My first symptom was light-headedness, which I now believe may have been from shortness of breath. So GETTING AHEAD OF THE VIRUS IS CRITICAL.

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    3. “Lots of Medical staff taking chloroquine as prevention to keep from getting virus” This alone could explain why more is not being done with patients. Until supply exceeds medical staff’s extended needs the sick are going to be denied? Question then becomes who is medical staff and what more is being hoarded for whom? Example does some mayor or city official want it for his police, fire, ambulance, personal staff or personal use? Where would it stop. The right answer should be it goes straight to the sick and only the sick, not the maybe sick.

      If this type of hoarding is suspected then they should radio tag the packaging and see where it’s going (sitting actually, held in reserve at someones home?)

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    1. Having public and private school children at home during the shutdown is Not “homeschooling”. They may be at home and they may be doing some homework/schoolwork but not the same.
      We can’t do our usual homeschooling either during the shutdown/quarantine and we homeschool full time!

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