20200319: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ China Virus/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

254 thoughts on “20200319: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ China Virus/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

    1. It’s going to happen. These people are meeting all sorts of people every day — not the likes of you and me, however. They have lots of small or large gatherings scheduled every week.

      Merkel is self-isolating because, a few days ago, she met with a doctor working with coronavirus patients (BBC News, Sunday, March 22).

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    1. CHLOROQUINE:

      http://www.drugs.com/sfx/chloroquine-side-effects.html
      Be sure to read all the way down the page, including the section “For Healthcare Professionals”
      http://www.medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a682318.html (US National Library of Medicine)

      HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE:

      http://www.drugs.com/hydroxychloroquine.html

      Please be aware that Chloroquine, while it may be effective in fighting the Wuhan Coronavirus, has side effects and interactions with the use of this drug. The same is true of Hydroxychloroquine. BOTH must be prescribed by a medical doctor or other qualified medical professional. The same is true of Hydroxychloroquine. DO NOT BUY THEM ONLINE.

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      1. Clarification:
        DO NOT BUY Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine online UNLESS you have a valid prescription.
        The same is true for QUININE TABLETS or QUININE POWDER. The side effects and interactions of Quinine tablets or powder are as serious as for Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine.

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        1. What’s the word on Tonic Water? I often drink it and it’s diluted enough that as long as it meets the FDA requirements for quinine content it’s unregulated.

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              1. Couple of day ago I said, “I don’t want to know who is hoarding toilet paper, I want to know who is rationing it.”

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          1. There are some folks who are sensitive to quinine, in particular those with “Mitichondrial myopathies”, or problems with the electron chain respiration (conversion from ADP to ATP). Really rare, but it can be a huge problem for some folks…

            For the rest of this, the main problem is finding a good Gin at a good price (Tanqueray, for example)… just kidding.

            Over here, most of the stuff that’s sold OTC in the USA is pretty much locked down, thanks (not) to big Pharma. On the other hand, if something requires a prescription, it’s best not to buy it online. And one has to wonder about the origin of those online bargains…. Chyyyyynnnaaaa, perhaps? Or India? (though they’re not as bad as China)…

            Wackypedia has some interesting articles on this:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_cycle
            And a paper (with a zillion links)
            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8330918_Quinine_Inhibits_Mitochondrial_ATP-regulated_Potassium_Channel_from_Bovine_Heart

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            1. For the rest of US, not rest of this….

              geesh, wurst press, don’t like G&Ts, eh?

              (oh, right, they probably like VODKA and Tonic. RUSSIAN Vodka…).

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  1. per 700WLW news conference:
    Female Chief Justice of OHIO — If I hear this correctly, she apparently wants any prisoner who can, to BE RELEASED if at all possible. This is to “protect the health of the other incarcerated persons” and to “isolate possibly infected persons outside of the prison”.
    Judges are to have the “discretion” to review all sentences.
    It appears the Chief Justice of Ohio has just issued a directive on this!
    LEGISLATION is also being considered in the Ohio legislature to put this idea INTO LAW in Ohio, “In very limited circumstances”.
    Question from reporter: Is there any protection for witnesses and jurors related to the release of prisoners?
    Answer: If there is a need to intervene, I would look into that.

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    1. This is crazy.
      Reminds me of the UN, who just suspended their migrant immigration program…… to protect the health of the migrants from exposure in Europe.
      WTHeck?

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  2. Surprises me how many cases in florida are due to community spread – no known travel and no known contact with a traveler

    Total cases 328
    Traveled 92
    Contact with confirmed case 56
    Traveled and contact with confirmed case 71

    Neither 109
    Travel is unknown* 67
    Contact is unknown* 21
    Contact is pending* 60

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  3. https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/19/dear-kag-20200319-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-433344

    Think Ahead

    Oh, WuFlu, WuFlu, what’re we to do?
    How can we survive when it comes through?
    What to do?

    Pessimists say that humanity’s done,
    With nowhere to hide and nowhere to run
    We’re all doomed!

    The Clueless say that it’s just the flu
    It won’t get me and who cares about you
    Just the flu!

    Pragmatists say that we’ve got to plan
    We can do it if anyone can
    Think ahead!

    Sanctuary cities, all run by Dimms
    Filled by rot and waste right to the brim
    Clean ‘em up!

    Alien invaders are comin’ in
    Bringin’ their diseases with all their kin
    Build the wall!

    Group gatherings only spread it more
    Passed from you to me, an infectious spore
    Shut ‘em down!

    All the kids at school will spread it around
    To the school staff, then it’s homeward bound
    Close ‘em now!

    People with fevers, we need to find out
    If it’s WuFlu , so there is no doubt
    Test ‘em all!

    Make the test kits reliable and fast
    Make ‘em by the millions so that they’ll last
    Send ‘em out

    Make those test kits available to all
    Do it with speed, it’s not the time to stall
    Test ‘em now!

    Ventilators are needed, thousands more
    Put our manufacturers on this chore
    Make ‘em now!

    People with WuFlu need more than a nurse
    Don’t wait to see if it’s gonna get worse
    Treat ‘em now!

    After they’re cured they’re weak and might shed
    Give ‘em time to recuperate in bed
    Watch ‘em close!

    For those folks who cough, sneeze and spray
    Let’s all get masks and wear ‘em today
    Wear your mask!

    Drugs to kill WuFlu are needed fast
    Made in U.S.A., not like in the past
    Make ‘em here!

    We’ve got approved drugs that now work well
    And more coming soon to kill those germ cells
    Use ‘em now!

    Avoid all crowds and give people space
    Stay and home and avoid face-to-face
    Isolate!

    Don’t go to work when you start to feel sick
    And call your doctor, and better call quick
    Do it now!

    Wear gloves, use wipes and wash your hands
    All work together for WuFlu’s last stand
    Disinfect!

    When all this is over and finally won
    We’ll be amazed what Americans have done
    We are one!

    Praise and thank the Good Lord for His grace
    Return to Him now and seek His face
    Praise the Lord!

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  4. Giving the Right Name to the Virus Causing a Worldwide Pandemic

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/giving-the-right-name-to-the-virus-causing-a-worldwide-pandemic-2_3277200.html

    They are calling it the “CCP virus,”

    Meanwhile

    Close Up Photo of Trump’s Notes Shows He Crossed Out “Corona” and Replaced it with “Chinese” Virus

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/legend-close-up-photo-of-trumps-notes-shows-he-crossed-out-corona-and-replaced-it-with-chinese-virus/

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  5. Talked to a neighbor:

    -She’s sick of the MSM panic.
    -We are not to mention what she had to say about China.
    -Hasn’t looked at her 401K but says its going to come back.

    Talk to family overseas and you can’t fix stupid!! I kept telling the relative’s order food or have someone else hope for them. I get the ‘no the delivery costs to much and X,Y and Z is just so so busy’. I give up

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  6. Ground Report. People in my moderate blue neighborhood are talking about this being a Chinese bio-weapon to stop President Trump’s re-election. Nobody is being called a “crazy conspiracy theorist” for saying it. Never thought I’d see the day when we could talk about this stuff openly in public.

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    1. OTOH, I sent an older cousin a short chart showing the cases and deaths as of a couple days ago (deaths less than 100) compared to the last flu epidemic in 2009, which of course was the point. Basic message..Chill This is being promoted by the media to cause panic…the media that barely showed any concern, if at all, in 2009.
      He, then passed it on to his uber liberal LA-based granddaughter, who promotes fashions on her website (for a hefty fee, of course)., and therefore is an expert on the Coronavirus.
      She took it upon herself to write me a rather long email, being “very concerned” that I was giving her beloved grandfather absolutely false information and therefore false hope since the deaths are now 150 with 10,000 cases, and that I was basically endangering his life by sending incorrect information.
      Then, to top it off, she demanded to be taken off my email list. Of course, she was never on my email list. I have never even met the little twit! LOL.
      Got to love the LA liberal loons.

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      1. It’s Christmas for the virtue signallers and Moral Police. Not only do they have ample opportunity to preach, but believing we’re truly a life-or-death situation makes them twice as zealous about it.

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    2. I wish the people in my neighborhood would talk to us. We’ve lived here longer than anyone else at this end of the block, and there’s a clique that goes around us and a couple other households.

      Yes, they’re all blue.

      When this is all over…maybe. We’ll see. At least the people on the corner, who have been here four years less than us, and the guy next door aren’t as cliquish.

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      1. It’s by no means perfect here. We had two online neighborhood groups go to war with each other because the tyrant running one of them didn’t like the other. It’s like these overgrown children never left high school.

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  7. WIPES CLOG PIPES

    With the shortage of toilet paper more and more people are turning toward using personal wipes and baby wipes for their personal needs. Additionally, many people are using more cleaning/hand wipes to stay safe.

    The Clark County Water Reclamation District reminds you that Wipes Clog Pipes and need to be thrown in the trash, not flushed down the toilet.

    Wipes clog sewer lines and pumps and can cause sewer overflows. Now is not the time to have a sewer over-flow in your home. Sewer overflows are messy and costly. Plumbers may not be available during these unprecedented times.

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          1. I can state 1 thing as fact…this pandemic or disaster drill, or storm, or whatever the crap this is would have likely driven me “over the edge” without the calm, steady guidance and support on these pages. We will come out on the other side of this with guidance from God POTUS and Q….

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            1. You’re right, Volgarian. Remember the days before Trump? When we all went through the Obama years? And we knew everything was wrong, but we were alone in our opinions? No more.

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              1. At this point I honestly don’t know how we survived with any sanity! The Grace of God has brought us here and given us a chance with PDJT to turn this ship around….as for me, I will do my part to help pull the ropes on that mast until my hands bleed but I will NOT let go!!

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  8. DP we can’t even go to IKEA…

    An Update on Our Response to the Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)

    To our IKEA Family members and valued customers:

    Across the country and the globe, we are facing uncertainty and unforeseen challenges due to the rapid spread of the coronavirus. What remains clear, however, is that we are committed to doing what is best for the health and safety of our co-workers and customers.

    As we’ve seen, this is not a problem that can be solved by one person or group alone; it requires individuals, businesses, and governments each to take action.  In order to do our part to slow the spread of this virus, we have decided to temporarily close all of our U.S. stores to the public, effective March 18. We remain available at  IKEA.com and will continue to offer click and collect in many of our stores, according to local regulations and only as long as we can do so in a safe and healthy way. You can find updated information on your local store page on IKEA.com.

    To support our co-workers, we have put in place additional measures to ensure their work environment is clean and sanitized and that co-workers are working at a safe social distance. We will also be providing free meals and bottled water during shifts. IKEA will continue to support co-workers through its comprehensive benefits package and paid leave policy.

    We know that this is a complex and fast-moving situation. We are constantly monitoring to ensure we are taking the appropriate actions, and we will keep you updated as things continue to evolve.

    Be well,
    Javier Quiñones
    Javier Quiñones
    IKEA U.S. President

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  9. “Wu Mao 50 cent Army” is composed of about 2 million actual Chinese citizens who are paid 50 cents to post good things about China on social media.
    They act like an outrage mob and have successfully kicked many conservatives off of Twitter.
    We are in the midst of a full blown CCP media influence operation.
    Buckle up.

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  10. Ouch, smack.
    FOX Biz, few minutes ago. Chinese authority within China sought a patent on drug Remdesovoir, produced by Gilead, before China admitted the problem with SARS 2 or Wuhan Flu.

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  11. Update on stuff around here. Banks still open for now,kids will be laid off shortly,Fema is at the VA hospital since yesterday and there boss said get ready to go home . All business is pretty much shut down in towns and cities but down at the end of our road the lumber mill is still chugging along .
    don’t about any more infected in our county as I couldn’t listen to anymore corona stuff,it’s getting to be to much so I took a break from it today and just listened to the blessed sound of all the quietness.birds were singing and very light traffic off in the distance,deep blue sky,the goat jumping and running about was so nice.going to enjoy it for now.

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  12. Smith’s, Krogers family supermarkets, sent an email that in part reads… bold added.

    “At Smith’s, we believe everyone deserves to have access to fresh, affordable food and essentials, especially in times of uncertainty.

    That’s why we’re starting senior shopping hours. On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, we’re reserving the first hour of shopping time, from 7-8am, for customers ages 60 and up.

    We’re also waiving all service fees on pickup orders for customers ages 60 and up through April 18.

    Our stores will still be open to customers of all ages from 8am-10pm. We appreciate your patience as we try this new program, and as always, thank you for shopping with us.”

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  13. COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/
    March 19, 2020
    “Prosecutors press to release inmates, drop charges amid outbreak”

    Law enforcement officials and prosecutors in Washington, DC; Maryland; San Francisco, New York, and Dallas TX, are pushing for judges to release prisoners who can’t afford cash for bail, who are elderly, or who are within 6 months of finishing their sentences.
    The prosecutors are also pushing for police departments in the areas above to cite and release arrested suspects “who pose no physical threat.”

    NOW, from “America’s Truckin’ Network” radio show, 12AM – 5AM, 700WLW, overnight last night:
    Steve Summers, the host of the show, read an account from Dallas, TX, giving the details of this scheme:
    Local police are being told to “turn a blind eye” to anyone committing property theft; simple assault that does not result in physical injury; shoplifting; purse-snatching; and other offenses that do not involve gross injury or death to the victim. The rationale given is that the police would be reducing potential exposure to themselves if the perpetrator is carrying the Wuhan Coronavirus.

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    1. This is the Stupidest thing I have seen throughout this 2.5 month ordeal…at least the stupidest to date. Even more idiotic than the teens and young 20somethings congregating in bars and on beaches – at least they have the excuse of uneducated and young. But judges and civil leaders releasing criminals in time of emergency? Criminals who are in jail …. crimes!!!! And telling the same that you won’t be arresting right now?!!!

      Of all of the things I have read in the past about emergency situations I have never read about something like this or thought about purposeful release of criminals or telling, advertising that the police are going to stop arresting and jailing!

      Recipe for disaster!

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  14. Can anybody please tell me WHY the FDA is NOW, all of a sudden, claiming that using Chloroquine for the Wuhan Coronavirus HAS TO BE STUDIED FIRST?
    per 8PM Eastern Time news report, 700WLW

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    1. Probably has to do with dosage. It can have some NASTY side effects. For malaria, people take once a week for 8 weeks. For the WuFu, a higher dose is given 2X/day for 6-10 days in a row. Again side effects are really NASTY.

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  15. Early symptoms of the ChiCom Virus could be diarrhea and gastrointestinal problems.

    Early symptom of coronavirus might be digestive issues: study

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/early-symptom-coronavirus-might-be-digestive-issues-study

    ——– From the article:

    Could diarrhea and other gastrointestinal issues be the first signs of the novel coronavirus, also known as COVID-19? Yes, at least according to one study published Thursday in The American Journal of Gastroenterology.

    [ … ]

    Not only could digestive issues be the first sign of illness, but the patients who reported them became more seriously ill than those who did not.

    “Moreover, as the severity of the disease increased, digestive symptoms become more pronounced. Patients without digestive symptoms were more likely to be cured and discharged at the time of this study than patients with digestive symptoms,” the authors wrote, noting 60 percent of patients without digestive symptoms subsequently recovered and were discharged, compared to roughly 34 percent of those with digestive symptoms.

    The researchers concluded that their findings call for more research that evaluates “the prevalence, incidence, predictors, and outcomes of digestive symptoms in this still-emerging pandemic.”

    “In the meantime, clinicians must bear in mind that digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea, may be a presenting feature of COVID-19 that arise before respiratory symptoms, and on rare occasions are the only presenting symptom of COVID-19. Clinicians should raise their index of suspicion when at-risk patients, such as those exposed to COVID-19, present with fever and digestive symptoms, even in the absence of respiratory symptoms,” the study’s authors wrote. “This knowledge may help with earlier identification of COVID-19, faster time to treatment, earlier quarantine, and lower exposure to bystanders.”

    The findings come after scientists from the Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Science in February discovered the novel virus may transmit through the digestive tract, specifically the fecal-oral route, in addition to respiratory droplets.

    More specifically, those researchers found “virus genetic material” in stool samples and rectal swabs from some patients.

    ————- End quote.

    Maybe this has to do with How You Caught The Virus?

    If you caught it through breathing in the virus…you develop respiratory symptoms?

    If you caught it from eating or drinking something…you develop gastrointestinal symptoms and diarrhea?

    I remember seeing a little blurb early on, about diarrhea & GI distress being some of the symptoms.
    But then…haven’t seen anything more about it, until this.

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  16. Gov Newsome just ordered all of California to stay home.

    Senator Burr of Intel Committee accused of insider trading. Received Intel briefings on pandemic, then Dumped all his hotel shares before market tanked. Made 33 transactions, Estimated he sold $700-$1.2 million

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