20200318: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Trump meeting with tourism industry from yesterday: Transcript found here = https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-in-meeting-with-tou-1842384687

459 thoughts on “20200318: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

  1. Wolf look at this. We were asking why and we get this BS answer.

    Sick staff fueled outbreak in Seattle-area care centers

    https://apnews.com/7994b669d63c73db4d3f73d444e53b25

    Staff members who worked while sick at multiple long-term care facilities contributed to the spread of COVID-19 among vulnerable elderly in the Seattle area, federal health officials said Wednesday.

    Wait wait wait Staff members. As in more than ONE staff member. Why are those people working there and how did they get it?!?!?

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    1. It’s not just a simple math error, but it IS a simple error – the one I’ve been talking about since the beginning – the “bad denominator problem”.

      It’s been corrected now, but yeah – the WHO guy gave a bad number.

      HOWEVER…..

      The number itself is a bit of a lie. Ultimately, to judge this virus, one has to look very closely at data and compare it to what we have for flu – AT ALL AGES.

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      1. True.

        Plus many have been pointing out we are too focused on the numbers. And a lot of times we are getting false numbers.

        Plus drop the numbers from Iran and China because we can’t trust those.

        But the WHO guy yikes.

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  2. FBN Liz Claiman

    China’s exports to America

    95% Ibuprofen
    91% Hydrocortisone
    70% Acetaminophen
    40-45% of US imports of Penicillin
    40% Heparin
    80% Antibiotics

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      1. All of this can be made here easily. Stainless steel reactors, the works. MADE IN THE USA.

        Ibuprofen is easy. We can ramp that up in a week.

        Microbrewery equipment is pretty much the same as fermentation tanks for everything else.

        GO TO IT!!!

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  3. Well —
    Just called WRAL in Raleigh and lit a fire under one of their top reporters on the situation in the Raleigh-Durham situation regarding the Wuhan Coronavirus (son lives in Durham, he’s a doctor).
    Raleigh confirmed cases just shot up to 22, from 17 a few hours ago.
    Durham confirmed cases rocketed from ONE case 3 days ago, to TWELVE cases today.
    (per http://www.wral.com/ and NCHHS stats)
    There supposedly is a “State of Emergency” declaration in these counties, but apparently people are acting like the situation is a big nothing.
    Admittedly, I have a “dog in the fight” as my son lives in the area. He’s the one who told me a couple of days ago about the agreement he had to sign from his hospital, that requires all doctors there to be available to work at any day or time and in all medical areas of the hospital, even if it’s out of the doctor’s area of practice.

    After I pointed out to the reporter that the current “don’t need to do much” of the local boards of commissioners and the local health departments made everybody down there “sitting ducks”, including the reporter, she began to listen closely…I then made the point that while nobody is looking for a complete shutdown, the “flip side” of doing nothing to slow the spread of cases is just as bad.

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  4. The US and the WORLD need a new kind of ‘Most Favored Nation’ status!

    BASED ON These Criteria:

    – Good Health and Sanitation Practices – no exporting diseases.

    – Good Pollution Practices – no pollution of Land, Air and Rivers, Ocean practices.

    – Good Neighbor Practices – no aggression against neighboring nations and no violation international treaties.

    – Good Humanitarian Practices – no genocide, no ill treatment of minorities, freedoms and rights respected.

    – Good Citizenship Practices – no stealing other nations’ patented technology and no counterfeiting goods.

    – Good Standards of Products – no selling sub-grade or toxic products.

    START OVER – Make them earn their MFN Status before granting it!

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  5. White House:

    Be wary of anyone selling products that claim to prevent, treat, or cure COVID-19.

    The @US_FDA and @FTC have issued warning letters to 7 companies for selling fraudulent COVID-19 products—including teas, essential oils, tinctures, and colloidal silver.

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    1. Nice of them to just issue warning letters and not just shut down the companies as we’ve seen in the past. Don’t they have something better to do than threaten small companies that believe they can relieve the suffering of Americans?

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  6. IMPORTANT MESSAGE

    Twitter is hitting me VERY HARD with people I don’t normally see, trying to sell the idea that Trump is hurting the economy, all a hoax, Fauci is off his rocker, etc. These are valid opinions (which I do not share at all), and I see them organically, but Twitter is dumping them on me VERY HARD, so it is definitely a CABAL position now.

    Twitter is VERY MUCH using their old algos. Anybody else seeing this?

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      1. I come through ALL GREEN.

        And yet, I *am* being heavily shadowbanned. How is this possible?

        There are several answers, which together reveal the functionality of Twitter’s NEWER and MORE SOPHISTICATED shadowbanning tools.

        MORE LATER. But until then, I want people to think about the problem. In particular, TRUMP admin people who come through ALL GREEN, and who ARE reaching people, but also feel like they are being LIMITED, are probably right, and the SAME TECHNOLOGY is likely being used on them.

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  7. This doctor has previous experience treating both SARS and MERS.
    Has been treating suspected Covid cases at his offices in WA state.

    Everything he covers cites published medical research.
    His practice specializes in helping patients that standard of care could not help.

    Dr Dietrich Klinghardt MD, PhD has posted a Youtube video that outlines his personal protocol for dealing with the Corona Virus. The protocol is based on his personal experience with previous Coronas and is science based (references provided). Vit C is at the top of the list and then specific herbs. Personal hygiene is important and social isolation is recommended.

    Presentation slides

    Click to access Dr-Klinghardt-Corona-2020-slides-9-march-2020.pdf

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    1. As an add-on to what T3 posted, here is a quick video on why chloroquine is an effective way to treat covid-19

      and Gregory Rigano briefly appeared on Tucker Carlson’s show tonight where he discussed how promising this treatment was. Here is his twitter account

      Sounds like a near term end to this is possible.

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    2. “Of the deaths in Washington, 6 occurred in the same hospital
      (Evergreen hospital in Kirkland). Kirkland has prided itself as being one of the first towns in the US wired for 5G. Evergreen
      hospital has according to our own measurements the highest levels of WiFi exposure ever measured in a hospital.”

      This tidbit stood out to me from the slides you shared. Thanks for that excellent & comprehensive info!

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      1. Yes, and while it is not a commonly proposed issue, there have been rumors of population wide dissemination of some “agent” (whether by vaccination, GMOs or airborne particle) that would potentiate the “effects” of something coming from the 5G installations. IF that is true, one could wonder, would it make people less calm, less rational, less willing to love their neighbor, less able to create, love, pray, trust, believe?

        My own observations lead me to believe that ALL wireless (and even dirty electricity fed into your home wiring from solar panels or other sources) are central nervous system irritants which do modify behavior.

        Also, of note is Dr. Devra Davis’ recent commentary that wireless is an immune system suppressant that leads to chronic inflammation in the body.

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  8. I wonder how Q’s “these people are sick” relates to all of this. I did a brief scan and most of the “these people are sick” crumbs are about false flags or pedophilia. Nothing immediately jumps out. Just something to keep in mind as the news unfolds.

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      1. Perhaps, it does not measure up in intensity to others in the past by comparison – no way to tell for sure – if the reporting is skewed – we may never know the impact – odd that China appears to be at the end of their crisis (closing hospitals) while others are just beginning – how did that happen – was this a true pandemic – or was this an attack on the world by an economically failing state? Just speculating here, T3.

        The chart could be a projection – something to stop the panic – dunno T3.

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    1. We can not base Any actions based on the current totals or assess it based on current totals because it is Not over yet. We have no idea what the final numbers will be. The way to think of it is that this one is a Big Deal because of its potential and projections.

      Think about this… the chart says 4,700 deaths and just since this chart was made the death total has ~9,000. We are Almost double Just since the graph was made. Think about how fast the death total Doubled! We will quickly pass the Ebola and then keep going. It is projected to be as big as the biggest plagues IF we don’t take immediate and Strong actions.

      Would be interesting and might help get people’s attention if the graphic artist inserted the projections of dead from the Wuhan Flu.

      The Story is the Potential that we Hope and Pray we Never see the Potential.

      The HUGE story is if this pandemic does Not become huge and have High numbers then President Trump will have been Very successful! Having low numbers will not prove President Trump wrong – it will prove him to be a great leader and a success.

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  9. Need advice from the Green Tea Experts. I want to make a gallon of green tea. If I put a gallon of water on simmer how many green tea bags should I add for optimum health benefit without being too strong. Also, I am using generic green tea. OK? Finally, I am planning on drinking it as ice tea. That won’t dampen its health benefits will it?

    Thanks for whatever input you can give to a career coffee drinker who gave that up 6 months ago and had no idea what a change for the better that would be.

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    1. Not an “expert” (has-been drip under pressure) here, but for good green tea taste, you brew it at ~ 165 – 175 deg F. If you boil it. you will leech some very bitter tastes (very bitter) out of the tea.

      However, recent studies show that the bitterness (whatever that is) opens up you cells so that they’ll accept zinc into them, killing or damaging coronavirus in the cell.

      I’ve got a tea kettle with which you can set brewing temperature.

      Just an engineer here, not a tea connoisseur.

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      1. Hello BakoCarl.
        I was just going to look for you.
        Found a prayer we might want to have handy…

        A BLESSING FOR THE SICK


        Lord Jesus, when you were on earth, they brought the sick to you and you
 healed them all. Today I ask you to bless all those in sickness, in weakness
 and in pain.

        For those who are blind and who cannot see the light of the sun;
 the beauty of the world, or the faces of their friends:
 Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those who are deaf and cannot hear the voices which speak to them:
 Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those who are helpless and who must lie in bed while others go out and in:
 Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those whose minds have lost their reason and those who are so nervous that 
they cannot cope with life:
 Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those who must face life under some handicap; those whose weakness 
means that they must always be careful: 
Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those suffering from debilitating or terminal illness and for their caregivers: 
Bless your people, O Lord.

        For those who are near the hour of death and in their final struggle:
 Bless your people, O Lord.

        Father, your only Son took upon himself the sufferings and weakness of the
 whole human race; through his passion and cross he taught us how good can 
be brought out of suffering. Look upon our brothers and sisters who are ill, whom
 we now remember in a special way. In the midst of illness and pain, may they be
 united with Christ, who heals both body and soul. We ask this through Christ our
Lord. Amen.

        Almighty God, as we ask your help for our brothers and sisters who are ill, we 
ask you to help us to be healing people in our time and place. May your love
 touch others through us, and may I help all people to live in peace. We ask this
 through Christ our Lord. Amen.

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    2. I’m Not a green tea expert but I know that one can make “sun tea” by using a jar or bottle (like an old juice container) that you fill with water & add the desired number of tea bags, depending on how strong you want it, then leave it in a sunny place for much of the day (or perhaps more than one day) & the sun steeps the tea.

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  10. This is just wrong. Truckers blocked from access to clean services and food?

    https://wearethene.ws/notable/90470

    Post 8466905 4 hours ago • View on 8kun
    TRUCKERS NEED YOUR HELP

    I don’t know how else to get our industry help… I’m concerned and feel disappointed, discouraged, and disrespected… We are breaking our balls to supply Americans during this crisis..

    my location has quarantined us completely from the entire facility. we can’t even use the bathroom.

    we are subject to temperature monitoring upon entry and exit.

    we can’t even get access to a real bathroom as it is… we have two porta potties onsite, to serve 50+ drivers…

    with this virus we are facing unsanitary conditions, normally I wouldn’t complain… however it’s not just warehouses.. businesses all across the country refuse to give us entry to a restaurant or bathrooms. we are LUCKY to find a truck stop with ready to go food..

    I’m getting to the point that I’m going to sit at home with my gear and equipment and wait this bullshit out..

    Corporate America clearly doesn’t give a shit about my health and well being.

    at least local Police departments are offering to help us get food…

    now lets look at the Pennsylvania

    Pennsylvania shuts its rest stops to all activity, including parking

    Sauce https://www.freightwaves.com/news/pennsylvania-shuts-its-rest-stops-to-all-activity-including-parking

    now to be fair.. they are reopening 13 of the 35 rest areas for parking, no services…

    I don’t mean to bitch. I’m busting my ass and feel neglected and thrown away…

    We Need help from the Feds on this…

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    1. I had to run an errand and travel to a town 60 miles west of here today…

      Was on I-40 quite a bit.
      Going both East and West.
      Truck Stops were open…and doing a brisk business.

      In addition, all the LOVE Stores that I saw were open and doing a lot of business.

      So out here in OK, this crap is not happening.

      I-40 traffic was normal…lots of 18-wheelers, RV’s, pickup trucks and cars.
      The streets in the towns that I’ve been in are far from deserted; look like normal traffic to me.

      I didn’t even see one person with a face mask on.

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        1. I dunno.

          Truckers talk to each other, though.

          Word of this will go out and they will re-route around those truck stops that are doing this!

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  11. Gail mentioned this: illusive FOURTH PAPER from Australia that Dr Boyle mentioned…

    May of found illusive Fourth Paper from Australia Setting this here for her to look over. At a minimum this definitely establishes tie with Chinese Doctors working with Australian out fit during time frame Dr. Boyle is trying to focus people on.

    Our Chinese Dr’s show up on page 81 of this document (last page abouts).

    “Zhao JJ, Cheng D, Li N, Sun Y, Shi Z, Zhu QH, Tu C, Tong GZ and Qui HJ (2008). Evaluation
    of a multiplex real-time RT-PCR for quantitative and differential detection of wild-type viruses
    and C-strain vaccine of classical swine fever virus. Veterinary Microbiology 126(1–3):1–10.”

    file:///C:/Users/stephen/Downloads/AVP_CSF_V4-0_2015-1.pdf

    The above link comes from this>>>

    https://www.animalhealthaustralia.com.au/our-publications/ausvetplan-manuals-and-documents/

    Could be more links to them on this page. Many papers in here. Aready checked the bat study but nothing in there.
    I trailed to the bottom of studies to check names but just on bats and this one pdf. Everything else is too dense for me so handing it over for your perusal.

    Started Here link below and then followed the Resource Hub to >>>AUSVETPLAN. from>>>
    https://www.animalhealthaustralia.com.au/resource-hub/

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  12. Earlier on Tucker – About that EO Peter Navarro has been working on to have our medical supply manufacturing return to US. Currently we rely on 20 countries for them, $120 Billion worth. As of now, 13 of those countries (including China) have put restrictions on, meaning they won’t send to us, even with trade deals in place, even from American companies overseas!! DoD, HHS facing similar situation with $49 Billion worth of contracts. Blocking our own damn companies??? So much for allies! We MUST become self sufficient, PERIOD!!

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      1. Michael Pillsbury just said the propaganda they’re pushing is them interfering in the election, which he didn’t expect. And he would/should know.

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          1. Pilsbury is a China Expert, advises POTUS.
            China is blatantly interfering in the elections by pushing the propaganda. They obviously want Joe. (We know that! DJT has been kicking their asses. They’re probably freakin about what he has in store after this nightmare is over)

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          2. Pilsbury was on Mark Levin’s show last Sunday night. Really good info on POTUS dealing w/all issues China, Definitely worth watching.

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              1. Go t0 Fox site. At very bottom select shows, then go to Levin. I find easier than YT.

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  13. And now the messages from medical professionals in the hardest hit areas are starting to come out. Hopefully, supplies will get there in time. I expect to see more of these as the people will think they will hurt President Trump

    President Trump is moving to hospital ships into position to help with the overload on the hospitals – 1 to NY City and one off west coast – I think off of LA but maybe off of San Fran or Seattle…???
    President Trump is emphasizing FEMA ready and activated as well as MASH units

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8126007/Washington-doctor-warns-ventilators-needed-coronavirus-peak.html

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  14. Ground Report: My local walmart.

    Canned stuff mostly gone! I was able to pick up a few things, but not much.

    Vitamins–was able to get what I wanted.

    Fresh meat was gone. Most cheese was gone. One side of one aisle of produce was totally bare. Frozen meat was basically gone too.

    I was able to get some things, but not a lot. But all I’m trying to do is lay in near-term consumables; my “stash” is built up.

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    1. It was so weird in Safeway yesterday. Meat counter almost empty…where Tp paper towels and etc usually are was totally empty.
      Had like 3 items I wanted…My chips, and a couple of TV dinners I like ….I was gone when I got them..
      On top of that store were like a haunted house.
      Did drive by the walmart…parking lot was cramed

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            1. think I will be paid for a couple of months, after that who knows—
              All the good Trump did is being destroyed
              H3ll many of the liberals have said this is what they wanted to get rid of Trump

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              1. My sense of things is that this is a painful but temporary place we find ourselves in. Our VSG would not lead us through it if there wasn’t great benefit or massive reduction in harm for this path.

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  15. Something BIG is coming tomorrow. POTUS was really excited about the FDA briefing tomorrow morning.

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  16. They want us to believe that multiple basketball players—young men in excellent athletic condition—came down with the WuFlu. Meanwhile, every reported case in my county is over the age of 60. Something is not adding up.

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    1. Reports from other countries are saying that more and more younger people are coming down with this.

      Maybe there are unreported cases of young people in your county?
      The testing hasn’t really been all that great…yet.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house-concerned-about-reports-from-italy-and-france-on-young-people-getting-seriously-ill

      ——- From the article:

      One of the top officials on the White House’s coronavirus task force team warned that reports out of Italy and France suggest the virus is spreading among the younger population.

      Dr. Deborah Birx told reporters at a press briefing from the White House on Wednesday that the task force is “concerned” about the news from Europe, which counters the belief that the illness doesn’t greatly affect young people.

      “We are concerned about the early reports coming out of Italy and France,” said Birx. “There are concerning reports out of France and Italy about some young people getting seriously ill and getting very ill in the ICUs.”
      Her warning came a day after Baylor Dean of Tropical Medicine Peter Hotez said a “significant number of young adults” are “seriously ill” in Italy.

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    2. Sadie, young people have been catching the virus all along. Fewer have complications that warrant hospitalization and fewer die than 50+ yrs but they have been catching it all along.

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    3. The Dems and their complicit media partners are well practiced exploiting natural disasters by dragging their feet, casting blame, confusing issues and generally working to the detriment of the country for their own self aggrandizement. Being so well practiced it’s not too hard for them to make shit up like get a bunch of basket ball players together and say, your sick, your sick, and your sick. Sick or not the mistrust is well earned.

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  17. “… read in today’s Sydney Morning Herald that Isaac Newton as a 23 yr old Cambridge student when the Black Death hit, went back home to his farm in the north of England and self isolated for the year, 1665-6. He used his time inventing calculus; discovered that white light comprises all colours; and watched apples falling from the trees in the garden, hence developing his theory of gravity. He said ‘I can calculate the movement of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people’.”

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