20200316: COVID-19/ Coronavirus/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information on these Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is no one better prepared than we are.

March 16, 2020: “We’re going to be backing the airlines. It’s not their fault. It’s no one’s fault, really, ……… unless you go to the original source.” (Which would be CHINA!!)

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

434 thoughts on “20200316: COVID-19/ Coronavirus/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

  1. Pardon if already posted… Bold added


    Much of San Francisco Bay Area under ‘shelter-in-place’ order due to coronavirus

    Residents in six San Francisco Bay Area counties will be confined to their homes for the next three weeks under a new shelter-in-place order aimed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus.

    The mandate, which goes into effect Tuesday and will affect nearly 7 million people, orders residents to avoid unnecessary travel and only leave their homes for food, medicine and exercise, according to county officials who made the announcement.

    It affects the counties of San Francisco, Marin, Santa Clara, San Mateo, Alameda and Contra Costa, as well as the city of Berkeley.


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  2. WOW…I think I figured out why the President started tweeting “CoronaVirus” with the capital V.

    Prior to March 5th, he always wrote “Coronavirus.”

    On March 5th, he started using “CoronaVirus” with a capital V. I made a post about it here a few days ago asking what changed. Well, I still don’t know that part, but I think I get the capital C and V now.

    Chinese Virus.

    (Worth noting that c = 3, V = 22, CV = 322. Skull & Bones. That’s probably related, too).

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      1. YUP.

        I’m doing a thread on Twitter right now, showing how this bug is designed to be a 4GW weapon. I think that FG&C’s assertion that this release was intentional is going to become “circumstantial evidence” from the nature of the weapon. In other words, if you find a murder kit in a stalker’s car trunk, the serrated combat knife ain’t there to fix a tire.

        CCP = O.J. Nobody is going to believe this was innocent or negligent.

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    1. Yep. Military has great field hospital capabilities. Modular.

      – IIRC, In addition to state side field hospitals across the states, I believe our prepo ship squadrons have field hospitals in ISO containers. Not always easy to get to, but ISO containers can be offloaded from prepo ships. Multiple ISOs loaded on C-5 or C-17 and flown to nearest airport to location required. Believe prepo squadrons are at Diego Garcia and Guam/Saipan. Was a third in LANT AOR. Been awhile since I operated in that realm. Material on prepo ships are intended for war operations overseas. BUT, 9-11 emphasized the obvious, The Homeland Is Number One priority.

      Outfitting, equipment may or may not be a challenge as I am guessing greater need for ICU, ventilators… Alternate sourcing must be pursued.

      Staffing probably the hard part.
      – National Guard from particular state units for starters.
      – Regular Reserve an easy call.
      – Active military, but only those serving on bases in direct support of civilian dependents. Those facilities cut way back on non emergent care at base clinics and hospitals. Sort of like deferring truly elective surgery. Only broader cut back.
      – VERY last resort, Active Military in direct support of Active Military.

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  3. Well well well, now isn’t this interesting? (ChiefIO

    Tony Hansen says:

    As you say “super interesting”.

    There seems to be well documented comorbidity in fatal outcomes in the elderly.

    If I recall correctly there was an autopsy study from the USA 2 or 3 years ago that suggested 60% of those autopsied were being treated for things they did not have.

    There is some suggestion that Aspirin losing its trademark contributed to the high death rate from the Spanish Flu. There is also suggestion that the Iranian medical community prefers using steroids to treat Covid19 symptoms. There are also some that suggest the Italian preference is for using NSAIDs.

    What if it is not the underlying diseases that lead to fatal outcomes?

    Could it be the underlying medications that firstly predispose one to more symptoms or more severe symptoms, and then secondly to fatal outcomes?

    Sorry I can not find the actual study. I did find that since the 1970s autopsies have declined.

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    1. Steroids work to reduce inflammation, But they also leave you more susceptible to infection at the same time.
      My FIL had to take massive amounts of steroids the 1st 3 days of each round of chemo. Oncologist issued the warning about avoiding germs.
      I just finished a medrol 6day dose pak, been in self quarantine. Looked up the half life (how long it stays in your system), says 36 hours, so I will wait an additional 2 more days before even considering going out. Fortunately I don’t have to, got tp, no FORO (fear of running out🤪), just tired of being cooped up. Pray for America, giving up freedom is not in our nature!!

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  4. Found this:

    How Vaccines Can Damage Your Brain:
    Vaccines, Depression and Neurodegeneration After Age 50: Another Reason to Avoid the Recommended Vaccines
    By Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.

    It goes along with “Vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to SARS-CoV has been documented.”

    Evaluation of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV Infection in Rhesus Macaques Immunized with an Inactivated SARS-CoV Vaccine

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  5. OMG – this is a GREAT IDEA.
    If someone is determined to be carrying coronavirus, put them aboard a CRUISE SHIP to isolate them.
    The ship has a mini-hospital which could be expanded.
    There are thousands of beds available.
    Dock the ships at ports in NYC/Miami etc., and stop the spread of the virus.
    The cruise lines NEED the money – and the government can work out a deal to pay the cruise lines.
    It would greatly improve the PR image of the cruise lines.
    They become hospital ships.

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    1. Great idea. Shortage of hospital beds GONE. And what a hospital! 😀

      One of the things we have to figure out quickly is what happens to people after they recover. Can they still infect others? If not, can they catch it again? That could mean different things for what options we have. If I can get tested to prove whether I had it already, and we know I can’t get it again, nor pass it on, that frees me up for hazardous duties, instead of just hanging out in quarantine.

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  6. Ground Report. I got an email from the local thrift store announcing their closure. It included a paragraph preaching against racism that ended with “If you have any concerns, please email us immediately.” Then they asked for a donation.

    i am now up to THREE emails regarding the WuFlu that felt the need to lecture about “racism.” A one sentence “Closed until further notice due to coronavirus” is literally all that needed to be said. This country has lost its damn mind!

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  7. This is comforting.

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      1. Begin???
        State Dept summoned Chinese ambo last week over editorial, told them to cut it out.
        Today they were caught spreading the same propaganda in Africa, blaming the US.

        I wanna jump through the screen at this little Witch! 🤬🤬🤬

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    1. Remember all of the food tampering headlines last summer? I theorized a few days ago that it’s related to the current pandemic somehow. A test run for 2020, perhaps?

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      1. USA 85 deaths from Johns Hopkins Worldometers says 91
        48 are in WA state, 29 at Nursing home
        10 CA, 7 NY, 5 FL, 3 LA, 2 NJ, 1 in others.

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  8. Well, that escalated quickly…..

    Silicon Valley is in one of six California counties subject to “Cower In Place” orders. I’m not supposed to leave home next until April 7. This was announced at 1:00 pm and takes effect at midnight.

    The protocol at my local Trader Joe’s was (1) stand in line — the store was “one in; one out” [N.B. — the line was not staggered six feet apart]. (2) Before entering the store, hands are sprayed with hand sanitizer, while you are rubbing that on, you are issued two disposable gloves — and, while you’re putting the gloves on, your cart’s handle is swabbed. (3) Upon entering the store, you are told (by a sign) to exercise courtesy and take no more than two of any item.

    I inquired at the information desk, telling them that my usual practice was to buy a case of wine. They told me that was fine, I was limited to two cases. 😉 I also picked up some other stuff.

    As I told the checkout cashier, if this extends into the future and gets really bad, about the worst-case scenario will have the National Guard leaving MREs on our front porch. Being able to wash them down with wine will make a big difference. She mentioned that wine/beer/liquor purchases had been relatively minor — everyone was buying rice, beans, and pasta……when nobody in Silicon Valley knows how to cook.

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      1. Mind you, I know how to cook……but, yeah, whole lotta people who do not, as a rule, cook. It’s why there was panic buying of ramen last Wednesday. They cleaned the local supermarket out of tomatoes…..there is no way these will all be consumed before half just rot.

        And there have been plenty of humorous bits for those with the eye to see them. For a while, 100% of the Clorox and house-brand regular bleach was gone….and the fruit-scented and floral-scented were the only types left. Every brand of laundry detergent except for Tide was gone…..but there’s plenty of Tide — people won’t buy it even in a panic situation. Clorox toilet-bowl cleaner completely sold out in all varieties……Lysol brand sitting next to it has plenty.

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          1. I don’t know. I just know that Clorox owns toilet bowl cleaning and that people won’t buy Tide even if there’s nothing else available because I can observe it in realtime.

            There are other weirdisms. My local store is a Lucky, and there’s a Safeway a few blocks away. Yesterday, the Lucky was sold out of bread but had milk; the Safeway was sold out of milk but had bread.

            Considering that stores with scanners record item sales at scan, there is a whole lot of marketing data in the last couple of days…..and it’s not going to be pretty for some people. The All or Gain people are going to be asking if Lucky should really be giving six feet of shelf space to Tide and four each for them…..

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          1. Dishwashing stuff didn’t get as hammered as laundry detergent — and go figure why not. Beats me.

            The only bar soap left was Zest, Irish Spring, and Olay.

            The first meat to sell out was chicken, the last was pork, then sausage went — and, again, I don’t think enough people in Silicon Valley know how to cook to get it all consumed before there is massive spoilage.

            Avocados were some of the first produce to disappear. I was told you can freeze ’em.

            Bagged shredded cheese is gone — plenty of block cheese left.

            All very weird.

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  9. Interesting thread from the UK on personal coronavirus experiences and symptoms. Some were worse than others:

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    1. Very interesting – and additional proof that this is pretty much hype moreso than dangers to the general population beyond the targeted groups.

      Just use your heads, people. There are those who just don’t want to do that.

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  10. After spending WAAYYYY to much time on FB today, I’m convinced…the people out there who are really into this WANT to be scared. They WANT the excuse to not go to Church even if they protest they don’t. They WANT to be led by the nose rather than think for themselves. They WANT to be inconvenienced even if it’s just something to talk about for most of them.

    They WANT to be afraid.

    What kind of a life is that?

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    1. I’m convinced a lot of people are going to be genuinely mad if the death toll from this stays under 100,000, and I’m not just talking about Chinese Communists and Satanic cabal members. I’m talking about the doomcasters on social media who are so bored and miserable with their lives that they crave any kind of novelty that disrupts it. They’ve dumped so much time and emotion into this that anything less than mass death will be considered a disappointment.

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  11. Governor Nuisance keeps talking about “non-essential businesses” and “essential businesses.”

    The economy has a way of sorting that out that is infallible: essential businesses make money; non-essential businesses lose money, go broke, and go out of business. All the government regulation in the world cannot quash essential businesses (e.g. liquor under Prohibition), nor sustain non-essential businesses (Solyndra, anyone?).

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    1. Okay, but still, if you have an e-reader, there is an independent author out there who could use the sale of a book or two. Explore a little. You have no idea what you’ll find out there.

      Okay, I know I’m a broken record about this, but indies really do work hard to put out a unique product that has by-passed the NYC publishing houses and goes straight to the consumer.

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  12. New Study Reveals Taking Chloroquine Fights Off COVID-19 in 6 Days and Works as Preventative for Coronavirus Infection


    From the link:

    On Monday Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, announced that the first trial vaccine for the coronavirus is now being tested. The trial taking place in Seattle, which has been a hotbed for COVID-19. The test includes 45 people age 18-55 and they are receiving two injections, one at zero days, one at 28 days. The individuals will then be followed for one year. The trial results is still months away.

    Me: A year!!!!


    Laura invited Dr. Gregory Rigano, the co-author of the study to discuss the latest findings.

    Dr. Rigano said their study found that those COVID-19 patients who took hydroxy-chloroquine were found free of the disease in 6 days. The patients were testing negative for the coronavirus in six days!

    Dr. Rigano also said taking choroquine could act as a preventative.

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