Dear KMAG: 20200217 Open Topic

This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

Yes, it’s Monday…again.

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But it’s okay! It’s a Holiday!

You can go back to bed:

Or have a nap:

Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

With the Storm upon us…please remember to Pray for our President.

Trump

Wheatie’s Rules:

    1. No food fights.
    2. No running with scissors.
    3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from AShamaluevMusic, titled ‘Beauty’:

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Wheatie’s Word of the Day:

Y’all

“Y’all” is a contraction of two words, that has been around longer than most people realize.

These days, we think of it as a contraction of the words ‘You’ and ‘All’.

But it dates back to a contraction of Ye and All, from the Old English that our Scots-Irish ancestors brought over with them.

Used in a sentence:

Ye all will perish if we listen to the lay-about fools who tell us that we should all share in the fruits of each others’ labours.

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Today is Presidents Day.

Presidents Day is celebrated on the 3rd Monday of February, and started out as a holiday for Washington’s Birthday on February 22nd, established in 1885.

Then, some states added a holiday for Lincoln’s Birthday on February 12th.

In 1968, the Uniform Monday Holiday Act was passed and went into effect in 1971, which combined the two birthday holidays.

There is some confusion, however, as to whether or not an apostrophe should be used after “Presidents”…because we see it both ways, and even before the ‘s’.

I don’t know which way is the proper way…but I don’t consider this guy to be in with the Presidents who are celebrated.

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Found this…and thought I would post it for our Wolfie:

And by the way…Happy Q Day!

Q-Coffee

 

 

595 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20200217 Open Topic

      1. The coup, James Wolfe, Senate Intel committee, devoting a whole hour to it and credited CTH.
        Said they were doing something highly unusual tonight.

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          1. Warner had extensive contact with Waldman. Trying to dig up dirt on Trump via Steele, etc. Kind of thing that would be illegal if a Repub did it.
            And the text “we don’t want a paper trail” indicated he knew it was stepping across the line.

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  1. oooooooooooooooooo they’re after Senator Mark Warner
    Adam Waldman
    That the repubs on committee knew about Warner—>>>> Waldman——>>> Deripaska —->>> Steele
    Holy crap!!!!!

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  2. Alright REX!

    REX @REX@social.quodverum.com
    1. It’s really annoying when our crowd starts whining like the libturds do.

    I quite like Cardillo, but this tweet is utter nonsense.

    Of course there’s a legitimate way to explain the difference between DOJ’s treatment of Gen Flynn and slimeball McCabe. Here it is:

    WE DON’T KNOW WHATS GOING ON.

    The truth is that all we can do is make an educated guess about the decision not to go after McCabe for lying to the FBI.

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    1. @REX@social.quodverum.com
      2. Cardillo is falling into a trap we have seen the libtards fall into many times since 2015.

      He is deceived by appearances and thinks that what he is seeing is the truth.

      Which is a surprise, as Cardillo knows full well that Trump is a master of strategic deception.

      Not just that, he also knows that the lying to the FBI charges don’t relate to SpyGate or to McCabe’s other dodgy activity, for example in the MidYear Exam Clinton cover-up.

      Link: https://social.quodverum.com/@REX?max_id=103665441296611876

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    2. Sundance is absolutely NAILING this topic.

      REX has nothing Sundance when it comes to this exact topic, all the documentation, timelines, and twists/turns.

      Anyone not reading Sundance on this is truly missing out.

      (HINT: put your hurt feelings aside and READ nuanced fact)

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      1. I’m not hurt. Not at all. And I was onto SD’s outdated information three years ago. All he did was repeat and recycle the same stuff. I stuck around there for the open threads where there was good information until all the people who ended up here got banned.

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      2. Let me put it this way, all of us are converging with those who are agreeing with what we’ve come to think about this.

        I happen to think that the sky isn’t falling and the report from Zero Hedge today that says Barr has siloed the DoJ into trusted, and not trusted may well be correct.

        We don’t know, because we don’t know what we don’t know and that is Rex’s point.

        I’m still going with using betrayal and being hung out to dry by the DS (Clinton, Obama, Soros, anyone who benefits from Ukraine corruption and the Iran deal) as a motivator for getting help and getting people to flip. I’m not the only one who thinks this, and until I see evidence to the contrary rather than pearl clutching and hand ringing when the cases involved are demonstrating that there is a two tiered justice system for those who don’t realize it (I think this is a coordinated communication tactic) and when the charges are more consequential than lying to congress and procedural issues, I’ll re-evaluate.

        Until then, VSGPDJT can pardon any of the mistreated any time…hence why there’s a good possibility they’re in on it. Trump is not shy about pardoning the innocent.

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        1. “I’m still going with using betrayal and being hung out to dry by the DS (Clinton, Obama, Soros, anyone who benefits from Ukraine corruption and the Iran deal) as a motivator for getting help and getting people to flip.”

          _______________

          What a shame to have to rely on that, instead of love of country.

          And belief in the rule of Law.

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  3. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/coupgate-localized-civil-war-now-underway-doj

    FTA:

    “…
    The AG has apparently partitioned the DOJ into two separate realms: the now-identified corps of coupsters working desperately to keep their asses covered in an unraveling conspiracy, and Mr. Barr’s group attempting to account fairly for all that has happened, while salvaging what’s left of the outfit’s institutional legitimacy. Too much documented evidence of crime is out there in the public domain to dismiss these activities as a “conspiracy theory.” The trouble is, so many were involved from so many branches and agencies, that fully prosecuting every angle of it could bring down the permanent bureaucracy like the Jenga tower it has become.”

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      1. eff Carlson Retweeted
        Brit Hume
        @brithume
        ·
        1h
        Devastating takedown of the New Yorker’s hatchet job on AG Barr. The magazine’s vaunted fact-checkers seem to have gone AWOL.

        27 Problems With Media’s Latest Failed Attack On AG William Barr
        Every paragraph has significant problems. Taken together, it is just one long string of innuendos insinuating that William Barr is evil.
        thefederalist.com

        https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/15/27-problems-with-medias-latest-failed-attack-on-attorney-general-william-barr/

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    1. more FTA…………………. well worth a read ……………………….

      “… Now, perhaps, you can see the scope of this big hot mess, and deduce the degree of difficulty that William Barr faces in attempting to set it all straight. He has to carefully select those who will be charged and probably not bother with some of the bit players. The charges are going to have to be serious, and the cases must be strong. It is a gigantic job of work, and rather delicate business considering the explosive potential to a government whose credibility is already pretty shredded. Failure to attend to it may turn a mere bureaucratic civil war into a genuine citizen rebellion featuring some of the 300-million-odd firearms at large in the republic. I believe Mr. Barr is aware of what’s at stake and will behave honorably.”

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    2. The trouble is, so many were involved from so many branches and agencies, that fully prosecuting every angle of it could bring down the permanent bureaucracy like the Jenga tower it has become.”

      ^^^ “The trouble is…”

      Perhaps I am missing the trouble. I WANT the permanent bureaucracy to implode. They ARE the problem.

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      1. Like you, Kal, my first, impulsive reaction…”so, that’s a bad thing?” I’m sure logical thinking will present some sound reasons this needs to be precision surgery, not a rash, damn the torpedos action.

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        1. Most people are followers not leaders so you need to DECIMATE, that is remove the top 10% who are the leaders of the ‘Purple Revolution’ aka ‘Resist’ within the bureaucracy.

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    3. “The AG has apparently partitioned the DOJ into two separate realms: the now-identified corps of coupsters working desperately to keep their asses covered in an unraveling conspiracy, and Mr. Barr’s group attempting to account fairly for all that has happened, while salvaging what’s left of the outfit’s institutional legitimacy.”

      ________________

      What’s left of the department’s institutional legitimacy can fit in A.G. Barr’s hope chest — the one that sits on top of his dresser, and plays music, with a little spinning ballerina when he opens the lid.

      There’s a little drawer at the bottom of the hope chest. I guess that’s for keeping the extra-special ‘hopes’.

      What’s left of the DoJ’s legitimacy can fit in there… no matter how many ‘hopes’ are in there.

      Or it could fit into a single slot in one of those antique printer drawers that people hang on a wall for knick-knacks. 👍

      And if he’s traveling, he could carry the DoJ’s legitimacy in the watch pocket (the 5th pocket) of his jeans.

      With room left over for a watch.

      A big one.

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    4. “The trouble is, so many were involved from so many branches and agencies, that fully prosecuting every angle of it could bring down the permanent bureaucracy like the Jenga tower it has become.””

      __________________

      That’s not a problem, that’s a feature.

      That’s what is needed.

      You can’t even begin to HOPE to salvage something so corrupt that it nearly (and still might!) bring down the Republic, and the end of any semblance of freedom for the human race, ushering in a new high tech Dark Ages.

      You can’t even begin to believe it is possible to salvage such a cancerous rot.

      You lance it, gut it, burn it with fire.

      If it shows any trace of life, you amputate the appendage.

      Or you die.

      Which part of this is hard to understand?

      Are we stupid?

      Or do we just prefer the comfort and imaginary safety of intellectual dishonesty?

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  4. eff Carlson Retweeted
    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    4h
    👀

    Axios
    @axios
    · 5h
    NEW: Top Trump administration officials are in discussions to reassign deputy NSA Victoria Coates — who has vehemently denied charges she is the official behind the “Anonymous” op-ed — to the Energy Department from the NSC.
    https://axios.com/coates-energy-nsc-switch-discussed-cd557fc3-54ce-4328-88fb-f4f4faba7863.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

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              1. Ahhh…light bulb finally! When you wrote “posting” I thought you meant posting a message, a tweet, etc. not an assignment post!
                O h yes, tunnel inspection (by candle light) sounds like a very worthy post.

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  5. We have notice no news about the China Virus. Most people are completely unaware.

    From the Chiefio site:
    Larry Ledwick says:
    16 February 2020 at 7:16 pm

    ….This is likely going to generate some heartburn. Of course there is the question if this is real or faked conversation but based on what we know I would not be surprised if this is true. We will know in about 21 days when cases in the wild can no longer be hidden.

    I have to agree I think it likely there are cases out there we are not being told about given how contagious this virus sees to be.

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      1. Gail, Slow guy here again.

        1,000 cases in 32 states. So, is that a combination of folks in quarantine, self-monitor and the like?

        Or is it 1,000 confirmed Corona?

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        1. I would think those are confirmed.

          The first known case was December 1st 2019.

          Remember the Chinese New Year (or Lunar New Year) began on January 25th, 2020. That would be just about when the virus was starting to spread in China. President Trump’s travel ban to FOREIGNERS went in effect Sunday, February 2, a week later.

          There are many Chinese American citizens who would have been in China for the celebration. There are 20 million Asian-Americans.

          60,000 flights left Wuhan in the period prior to lock down with an average of 140 passengers per flight. The only screening done was temperature which would not catch asymptomatic carriers.

          GorseFires Collectif
          @GorseFires
          Geographic distribution of cities across the globe receiving airline travellers from 18 high-risk cities in mainland China over a period of three months #coronavirus #2019nCoV Source: *https://www.worldpop.org/events/china

          The 14th confirmed case in the US is in San Diego.
          https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-case-confirmed-in-us-quarantined-flight-china

          We also know that the politicians in San Francisco met with the local Chinese

          Larry Ledwick says:
          10 February 2020 at 5:36 am
          San Francisco officials are meeting with Chinese community

          Jessie Liang
          ‏@JessieKTSF
          4 minutes ago

          #SanFrancisco Dept. of #Emergency Management and Dept. of #PublicHealth meet with #Chinese #community leaders in a close-door meeting about the impact of the novel #coronavirus. #2019nCoV #中文 #Video @SF_emergency @SF_DPH

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          1. O M G.

            1,000 confirmed Corona in US, AND US citizens NOT aware?

            Hard to fathom. Have they recovered, died, still in quarantine…?

            I realize we don’t have the answers to my questions above.

            100% struggle to believe the US has 1,000 confirmed Corona, AND, the public has zero clue.

            Knew we had 15. Read three have recovered. Then a few dozen from Diamond Princess. So 29, as I understand it.

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            1. Here is the deal. It transmits during the prodrome phase – when it is asymptomatic, barely symptomatic, or unrecognized by the victim. So there HAVE to be people exposed by the time somebody reports. 1000 sounds about right. We likely missed several who entered.

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      2. Does that include the 700 Chinese students in Buffalo that officials are gagged over?
        Funny, one of her latest tweets is from the CDC saying people don’t need to wear masks.
        What a piece of work!!

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        1. I’m guessing the 1,000 cases is those in quarantine, self monitor and the like. Can’t be verified Corona in US. They’d have to release that type of information. AND, the 1,000 number fits given the number of Federal quarantine centers on military bases and self-monitor in LA area.

          Do we have validation of the Buffalo report we saw yesterday? For me it is some guy creating click bate based on hysteria, in his report. Stuff like that needs to be verified before I run with it.

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          1. From WIKI:
            “…According to the 2010 census, the Chinese American population numbered approximately 3.8 million.[7] In 2010, half of Chinese-born people living in the United States resided in the states of California and New York….”

            Tickets to fly to China are about $500 to $600 bucks. The Chinese lady who sells at the local flea market goes back to China every year. I would think a lot of those living in ‘China town’ in various cities also fly back every year to negotiate for stock too. Then you have the students going home for the holidays.

            And that does not include the American business people…

            14 confirmed cases??? I think that number is WAY TOO LOW given how contagious the disease seems to be.

            I agree with E.M. and Larry. In two more weeks if the virus ‘is out in the wild’ esp in San Franfeces, they are not going to be able to continue to hide it.

            So we wait and see.

            The CDC even warns we are likely to see the virus:
            https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/cdc-prepares-for-coronavirus-to-take-a-foothold-in-the-us.html

            KEY POINTS
            The CDC is preparing for the new coronavirus, which has killed at least 1,115 and sickened more than 45,000 worldwide, to “take a foothold in the U.S.”

            “At some point, we are likely to see community spread in the U.S. or in other countries,” said Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

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            1. Agree with everything you’ve posted. Including the two weeks or so for Frisco or another place to fester opening Corona cases.

              Frisco health care pow wow with Chinese was the 10th. Normal incubation < 14 days. 24 days for outliers as I understand it.

              Have not tracked DoS flights from China and Japan with folks from Wuhan and Diamond Princess. Have tried to locate a one stop web site for those numbers. No luck thus far.

              The "community" outbreaks has been in my mind as very realistic for a couple weeks now. Posted as much where I displayed my household readiness plan.

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  6. Techno Fog Retweeted
    Jeff Carlson
    @themarketswork
    ·
    Feb 13
    Durham Reportedly Investigating Whether CIA Withheld Information From FBI in Russia Probe

    My latest
    @EpochTimes
    Durham Reportedly Investigating Whether CIA Withheld Information From FBI in Russia Probe
    News Analysis U.S. Attorney John Durham, tasked to look into the origins of the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation, …
    theepochtimes.com https://www.theepochtimes.com/durham-reportedly-investigating-whether-cia-withheld-information-from-fbi-in-russia-probe_3237947.html

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  7. “500” spectacular finish. Bad wreck Ryan Neumann’s car went airborne last lap of race overtime. Longest “500” in history (with the overtime).
    Hamlin wins second year in a row.

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              1. That was my thought. How mangled…that remains to be seen. In the replays the car landed on the driver’s side. Internal bleeding, concussion, severed artery…IDK. I don’t like the vibes. Just like 2001, and just like every time a test pilot went down at Pax River.

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            1. When the car flipped another one hit it right on the driver’s side while in the air then it landed on the driver’s side. Definitely not good. And they brought out a black screen to block the view of the car.

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  8. I haven’t been around much…dealing with some health issues and recovering from surgery to deal with some nerve damage in my left arm…but I’ve been reading and lurking…

    Harry recovering from surgery ^^^

    For those that are upset about McCabe skating charges recently and wondering if something bigger is coming, Dan Bongino’s show today does a great job theorising just what might be going on. Almost the entire show is dedicated to this topic and is definitely worth the listen.

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    1. I hope your recovery goes well. Do that PT and dont slow up… its your arm! Carpal tunnel is bad enough but real damage isnt fun. Besides, its easier to hold a Trump 2020 sign with 2 arms.

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  9. Isn’t CALPERS one of the largest pension funds? Wonder if Feinstein &Pelosi had a hand in bringing China into the fold 🤔

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    1. Yes calpers is huge. Teschers, police, firefighters, etc. And the Chinese guy was put it despite objections. They pass bonds every year to fund calpers even though voters think its “for the cheeldren”. Its for the unfunded stolen liabilities.

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  10. Lou Dobbs
    @LouDobbs
    ·
    1h
    Corrupt Radical Dems:
    @TomFitton
    says the DOJ takes an aggressive approach towards Republicans and people associated with
    @POTUS
    , while giving special treatment to the Dems. #AmericaFirst #MAGA #Dobbs

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  11. 3871
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 73bdd5 No.8168706
    Feb 17 2020 21:27:37 (EST) NEW

    Do people really believe this [attack] can happen against the President of the United States and nothing will happen?
    Moves and countermoves.
    Q

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    1. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

      Will George Soros be first?

      Will the Clinton Foundation be exposed for the pay to play slush fund it is?

      Will the Red Cross piggy bank be outed?

      Stay tuned to the Foggy Bottom Theater for the next episode of As the Swamp Turns.

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      1. True, 5 times previously to be exact.

        The first one is interesting though…

        Dec 21 2017
        416
        Anonymous ID: deb9fa No.143329
        Dec 21 2017 20:31:58 (EST)
        Soros takes orders from P.
        You have no idea how sick and evil these people are.
        Fight, fight, fight.
        Day of days.
        Game over.
        Q

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  12. 3871
    Feb 17, 2020 9:27:37 PM EST
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 73bdd5 No. 8168706

    Do people really believe this [attack] can happen against the President of the United States and nothing will happen?
    Moves and countermoves.
    Q
    14m ago
    8kun qresearch

    3872
    Feb 17, 2020 9:29:50 PM EST
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 73bdd5 No. 8168745
    To be blunt….
    GAME OVER.
    Q
    12m ago
    8kun qresearch

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        1. Your links looked fine to me, Harry.

          Spam bin has been screwy lately, sucking comments in for no reason.
          Wolf thinks it’s the Askimet program doing it.

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    1. What an amazing finish… I’ve watched at least 15 times now.

      You can see Ryan’s white racing gloves through the windshield, as he jerks the steering wheel, steering against the direction of the rear end starting to slide out, he was trying to save it almost all the way to the wall.

      I hope he let go of the wheel before impact. They’re supposed to, to prevent broken wrist/arms.

      Hamlin (the #11 car) clipped Ryan’s car as Ryan spun in front of Hamlin. It’s amazing that Hamlin didn’t wreck, he swerved toward the infield, still hit the driver’s side rear of Ryan’s car, straightened out his own car, and never lifted off the accelerator.

      Blaney should have won, but he was trying to correct for loss of traction himself, and it seems like he must have lifted off the accelerator for just a fraction of a second as Ryan spun out in front of him. He was back in the throttle immediately, but since Hamlin never lifted, Hamlin had momentum.

      As they come to the finish line, Hamlin is a HALF car length behind Blaney, and then Hamlin made up that half a car length PLUS enough to edge ahead like he was shot out of a canon. It almost seemed like Hamlin was sucked in toward Blaney’s car, so that Blaney’s car was pushing the air and Hamlin momentarily was driving in the equivalent of a vacuum, like Blaney’s car was pushing the air like a pyramid-shaped shockwave, and Hamlin’s car was benefiting from being inside the shockwave.

      In that circumstance, Hamlin’s car would have momentarily had much less wind/air resistance than Blaney’s car (i.e., Blaney’s car was doing all the work of pushing the air), allowing Hamlin’s rpms to jump, giving him a relative burst of speed just before the finish line.

      All three (Ryan, Hamlin, Blaney) saved their cars several times during the final stretch, the back ends kept getting loose as they were being lifted and/or pushed by the car behind them.

      That makes for exciting racing!

      I’d love to see a heart-rate monitor readout on those guys during the last quarter lap, just to see if there was an adrenaline spike when the rear end of their cars got loose, or whether all three were so focused that their heart-rates barely fluctuated at all.

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            1. I would imagine the injuries include some pretty gnarly broken bones. Idiot that I am, or was when I was a teenager, I actually watched Lawrence Taylor land on Joe Theismann’s leg.

              Yeah, didn’t listen when whoever it was said, If you are the least bit squeamish, don’t watch this.

              I would imagine this is in that realm.

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              1. Like I told my brother the couch commando, I think they knew Dale was gone when they got to him. If Newman was actually talking to the rescue squad as was reported, they knew they had time. When I was in lifeguarding, and we used to do sessions with the fire department and the EMTs they told us, just keep ’em talking. The one paramedic said, you hear some really bizarre stuff in the ambulance, but they’re alive.

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          1. I was watching it live. When Newman’s car went airborne, I jumped out of my chair and watched in horror. My daughter and I were screaming at the TV for the rescue crew to hurry. Watching that fuel dump on the pavement so close to that fire was terrifying.

            I still cannot believe Newman survived.

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  13. WARNING

    If life happens and you miss a day or three here at the QTree, like I just did, you’ll be about a year behind in info.

    Yeah, things are habbening THAT fast.

    Daytona 500 eat your heart out.

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    1. Just the other week I had stuff to do IRL and missed a couple of days, not totally, was able to skim headlines, but it took me about 5 days to catch up!

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  14. Can someone that’s into racing tell me how this is on the up and up? Cops push and spin the bad guys in car chases all the time to get them stopped.

    Ryan Blaney: “I made a move off 4 on [Ryan] Newman and he blocked it and I kind of went low and he blocked that.”

    Team Penske’s Blaney said it was then that he committed to pushing Roush Fenway Racing’s Newman to the finish line for a Ford victory, but the cars contacted wrong, causing the wreck.

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    1. Not sure what you’re asking about…do you mean the ‘team’ movements?

      There are ‘racing teams’ these days.
      This means there are groups of racers who work together to get a win for their team.

      Personally, I don’t think it’s right.
      It turns a race into a ‘game’ rather than a race.

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        1. They could limit each team to only ONE driver/car per race.

          That would dry up all this gamesmanship.

          As it is…the guys who are not on a team, are at a big disadvantage.

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    2. Pushing is a way to get both cars to go faster because of the draft so a typical tactic. But if they are not aligned right then things can go bad. Blocking is hated but legal. I believe the expression is if you ain’t trading paint then you ain’t racing.

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    3. “Can someone that’s into racing tell me how this is on the up and up? Cops push and spin the bad guys in car chases all the time to get them stopped.

      Ryan Blaney: “I made a move off 4 on [Ryan] Newman and he blocked it and I kind of went low and he blocked that.”

      _______________

      Yes, I can explain. I haven’t watched racing much for several years now, but the black #3 was my driver (Earnhardt Sr.) growing up, and I kept watching after 2001, hoping Dale Jr. would be able to follow in his Dad’s footsteps and become a multi-time Winston Cup Champion.

      On the big oval tracks, especially Daytona and Talladega, they do what’s called ‘bump drafting’. Drafting is when you pull up right on the rear bumper of the guy ahead of you, so he’s pushing all the air and you’re not pushing any. If you’re “in the draft” of the car ahead of you, you suddenly don’t have any forward air resistance. The driver ahead of you is blocking the air from hitting your car, which would slow you down.

      What happens then is the trailing car’s engine rpm’s rise because his engine isn’t having to work as hard to push the air out of the way (there is a LOT of wind/air resistance at nearly 200mph), so his car speeds up, and ‘bumps’ (hits) the car ahead of him.

      That ‘bump’ pushes the car ahead of you, if you hit them squarely, and both of you move ahead relative to other cars on the track.

      But if you hit too hard, it can lift the front car’s rear end slightly, enough for the leading car to loose traction, which is when you see the back end ‘twitch’ or ‘wobble’ (used to call it the ‘hospital wobble’).

      And if you hit the car ahead of you to one side or the other, it will spin the lead car sideways. This happened multiple times during the last lap, as the lead cars swapped positions. It’s a very fine line at that kind of speed. They have the skill to do it, and every driver on the track might do it a hundred times or more during the course of a 500-mile race, but it only takes one misstep to cause a wreck.

      I don’t know how it is these days, but it used to be that on the last lap, pretty much anything goes, short of intentionally wrecking someone, and how could you ever prove that one way or the other? And since you want to be inside your competitor’s head and cause him to make a mistake, you want him to think you’re going to wipe him out. One of Earnhardt Sr.’s nicknames was the “Intimidator”, along with “Iron Head”… I sure do miss being able to watch him race.

      When you’ve been racing for 499 miles, and you can see the checkered flag, it’s every man for himself. Winning the Daytona 500 is like winning the Super Bowl. It’s a special victory, and you might never get another chance. It took Earnhardt Sr. TWENTY YEARS to finally win at Daytona. He was close so many times… he had won just about every other place they raced, and then finally he won Daytona.

      On the last lap of a NASCAR race, just about anything goes. There are plans and strategies throughout the race, and teammates often work together on the track, and you can even work out strategies with other competitors who aren’t teammates (pit crews make deals and communicate to their drivers), but there are no teammates (usually) with a quarter lap to the finish line.

      The only exception I can think of was 2001. IIRC, Earnhardt Sr. was the car owner for Michael Waltrip’s car (the eventual winner). Dale was in second or third, and not in position to win, but Sterling Marlin had a run coming off the corner. Dale moved to block Marlin (like Newman did to Blaney), to protect Waltrip’s chance for victory (I think Dale Jr. was just behind Waltrip, and Dale Sr. was just behind Dale Jr.) and Marlin hit Dale Sr. on the driver-side (left) rear, spinning Dale Sr. to the right, straight into the wall (just like Blaney did to Newman).

      Waltrip won the race, his first Daytona 500 victory, and I’m sure Dale Sr. knew Michael was going to win, at that last moment.

      My driver didn’t finish that race.

      And racing was never the same after that.

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      1. Or maybe Earnhardt Sr. moved in front of Marlin not so much to block, but so Marlin would bump him and push him forward, to get himself a chance to pull ahead and win the race.

        Earnhardt Sr. could do that like nobody else. The commentators used to say Dale Sr. could ‘see’ the draft, but what they really meant is that he had a ‘feel’ for just the right position to get the most benefit from the draft of the car ahead, and (I think) better car-control than any driver I’ve ever seen.

        The best position to take advantage to the draft is always changing, depending on wind direction, how the wind affects the car differently in the turn than head-on, etc., even ‘side-drafting’, where you suck up inside the draft of the lead car by practically (or actually) rubbing up against the side of the car that is slightly ahead.

        Earnhardt Sr. was better than anyone at it.

        The track at Talladega, due to banking and shape differences, is even faster than Daytona, and all the same bump-drafting techniques apply.

        Earnhardt Sr.’s last victory was at Talladega the year before (2000), and it was incredible. I couldn’t remember whether he picked up 20 or more positions in the last lap (I remember it with a little embellishment, apparently 😁 ), so I looked it up:

        ……………………………………….
        “In the 2000 season, Earnhardt had a resurgence, which was commonly attributed to neck surgery he underwent to correct a lingering injury from his 1996 Talladega crash.

        He scored what were considered the two most exciting wins of the year — winning by 0.010 seconds over Bobby Labonte at Atlanta, then gaining seventeen positions in the final four laps to win at Talladega, claiming his only No Bull million-dollar bonus along with his record 10th win at the track [Talladega].”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Earnhardt
        ………………………………………..

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