Dear KMAG: 20200209 Open Topic

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness.
For we do not know what to pray for as we ought,
but the Spirit himself intercedes for us
with groanings too deep for words.
Romans 8:26

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My apologies, if due. I’ve reduced the size of the intro because of the size of the topic.

The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


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The Problem with Prayer

For many, there appears to be a problem with prayer. “It’s a one-way conversation.” “It doesn’t seem to work.” “God takes too long to answer.” “God does what He wants anyway.”

Crushed between the mortar and pestle of life, it’s easy to think there’s a serious problem with prayer: God. When God doesn’t answer according to our will, we can get frustrated. We can feel like our prayers are just floating around the galaxy, too insignificant to catch the Creator’s attention. In the midst of this disappointment, we’re often too slow to accept that the problem with prayer is not God, but us.

The Problem of Misunderstanding Prayer

I used to think that life would be a lot easier if God answered a few more strategic prayers — just a couple key petitions to remind us that He’s listening. I was convinced that a profound healing here and there would add spice to the life of the church.

Then God healed Karen.

Our Sunday school class gathered for desperate prayer the night before the surgery to remove a tumor from Karen’s brain. The surgery would probably render her unable to speak for a long time. Leading the prayer, I asked God to comfort her husband, daughter, and family at this time of crisis, to help the surgeons, to speed her recovery, and — if He willed — to miraculously heal her.

Of course, that last part was just for show. Although I believed God could heal Karen, I was certain He would use less glorious means. As we drove home, I even told my wife, “Karen will probably never be the same again.”

The next morning the tumor had disappeared.

I assumed Karen’s response would be just as profound as God’s answer to prayer. After all, when a person experiences the awesome intervention of the Almighty God, we should expect an explosive revival, right?

Less than a year later, Karen left the church and divorced her husband.

I had always thought answers to prayer would strengthen faith and ignite thanksgiving. Disappointed in Karen’s response, I was reminded that even the Israelites grumbled and rebelled in the midst of powerful answers to their requests (Numbers 11:1-4).

You see, the problem with prayer is not God, but us.

The Problem of Abusing Prayer

When I was a new Christian, I mistakenly followed the “prosperity gospel,” the “name it-claim it” theology that overwhelmed Christian television and bookstores — and continues to overwhelm today. “Don’t make negative confessions,” I was told. “If you’re sick, confess that you’re healed!”

On one occasion, I mentioned to a self-proclaimed “prophetess” that I was going bald. Instantly, she placed her hand on my head and shouted, “No you’re not — in the name of Jesus!” That “prophetess” treated prayer like a credit card she could whip out at any time to make major purchases.

We may not be as extreme as that woman, but we can all fall into the trap of abusing prayer. While we may tack on a halfhearted “Thy will be done,” deep down we think, “No! My will be done!” Yes, Christ said, “Ask, and it will be given to you” (Matthew 7:7), but his brother James reminds us, “You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives” (James 4:3).

Once again, the problem with prayer is not God, but us.

Correcting the Problem with Prayer

After a dozen years in Bible college, seminary, and Ph.D. studies, I’d hoped to finally have a handle on prayer. I don’t. In fact, the more I pray, the less I understand its profound mysteries. However, I’ve come to several conclusions that might help correct our perceived problems with prayer.

First, we need to understand that the purpose of prayer is not for God to please us, but for God to change us. If a father constantly gives in to a little child’s whiny demands, we’d take him for a lousy parent. Why, then, do some think God’s a stubborn God when He doesn’t give us everything we want? We need to trust that God is wise and powerful enough to answer rightly — and right on time. 1 John 5:14 says, “This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.” That is, God won’t jump at every loose-lipped confession. Prayer offered up in true faith submits to His will — our sanctification (1 Thessalonians 4:3). God’s will is to change us, not please us.

Second, we need to accept that the power of prayer is perceived in even the smallest response. I’m convinced that humans don’t fully comprehend how little we deserve God’s love and grace. Consider that what we regard as “crumbs” of answered prayer may really be bountiful feasts once we realize that God owes us nothing (Genesis 32:9-10Luke 7:6-9). When we adjust our attitude about our own unworthiness to receive God’s favor, we’ll never regard “small” answers to prayer as insignificant.

Finally, we need to acknowledge that the process of prayer is not as important as the attitude of prayer. When God chose in His sovereignty to heal Karen, He did so even though none of us expected it. Our feeble prayer was a simple act of faith — turning our worries over to God’s care (Philippians 4:61 Peter 5:6-7). Christians can get hung up on method, worried that they haven’t said the right words, haven’t prayed hard or often enough, or haven’t believed deeply enough. That’s hocus-pocus, not prayer (Matthew 6:5-8). If you’re concerned about not praying with the right words or for the right things, memorize Romans 8:26 — God’s Spirit even helped Paul pray!

Of course these reminders are easy to read, but they’re not easy to live. To our finite human minds, we’ll always perceive “problems” with prayer. Are you struggling with your prayer life, not seeing results, wondering if God is listening? It might be time for an attitude change. It might be time to finally accept that the problem with prayer is not God, but us.

Adapted from Michael J. Svigel, “The Problem with Prayer,” Insights (October 2005): 1-2.

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I realized that the deepest spiritual lessons are not learned by His letting us have our way in the end, but by His making us wait, bearing with us in love and patience until we are able to honestly pray what He taught His disciples to pray: Thy will be done.

~ Elisabeth Elliot

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593 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20200209 Open Topic

    1. Well well well.

      Would ya lookie here. The DoJ wants to delay his sentencing…again. Hmmm.

      That Fox news piece seemed VERY short on info, so….

      I did a Google search. Google’s algorithms said nothing new had been published about this (imagine that!) so I went to



      “In unusual Sunday morning court filings, the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington did not explicitly call for a postponement of Flynn’s scheduled Feb. 27 sentencing on a single felony charge of making false statements to the FBI, but suggested putting off looming deadlines in a way that would make it unlikely for any sentencing to take place this month.

      >>>> The pair of prosecution filings submitted on Sunday do not bear the signature of Brandon Van Grack, a former member of special counsel Robert Mueller’s team who has been the lead attorney on the case since its outset.<<<< 😳

      WAIT…. WUT??

      “The new submissions are signed by an assistant U.S. attorney in Washington, Jocelyn Ballantine, who has helped handle Flynn’s case since Mueller’s office shut down last May. The filings are the first in the case submitted under the authority of Tim Shea, the new, interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia appointed last month by Attorney General William Barr.

      O’RLY???? 😏

      “Van Grack and Justice Department spokespeople did not immediately respond to requests for an explanation of why Van Grack‘s name was not on Sunday’s filings or about his status on the Flynn case…

      It is possible Van Grack was left out of the latest submissions because he, like the Covington lawyers, could wind up as a witness at a hearing that Sullivan is considering holding on Flynn‘s request.



      Do you good folks remember this little bombshell from a little over a week ago??


      Jan. 30, 2020 at 2:13 p.m. CST

      “Attorney General William P. Barr on Thursday named former federal prosecutor Timothy Shea as the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia (DC).

      The announcement comes just a day before Jessie K. Liu, the city’s current U.S. attorney, leaves office on Friday. Liu, 47, has served in the post for a little over two years.

      Liu, who worked as a line prosecutor in the office decades before returning as its chief in 2017, declined to comment on her tenure or her plans.

      Liu oversaw myriad high-profile cases. It was her call last year to dismiss charges against 188 defendants who were charged with rioting during Trump’s 2017 inauguration.”


      1. AG Barr removes the corrupt Jessie Liu. A week later…
      2. Suddenly Van Grack can become a witness in a case he was prosecuting and now….in unusual Sunday filings…..seeking to delay Flynn’s sentencing hearing AGAIN…..submissions to Sullivan’s court are being signed by someone else.


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        1. Let’s see….

          1. AG Barr removes Jessie Liu just over a week ago
          2. DoJ makes UNUSUAL SUNDAY filing just over a week later, delaying sentencing hearing AGAIN
          3. Said filing is NOT signed by Van Grack
          4. Neither DoJ nor Van Grack will comment
          5. It is speculated that this is because Van Grack May now become a witness is a case he was prosecuting (turning state’s witness, anyone??)

          I have maintained for YEARS the Flynn case was going to turn out to be a sting op against corrupt me,bears of the DoJ, FBI, and others.


          …..this is EXACTLY how a sting goes down.

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  1. 8kun remains under heavy attack. Something big must be coming down the pipeline real soon.

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    1. Sadie – my suspicion is that this is related!



      9 Feb 2020 – 4:33:49 PM



      My suspicion is that something BIG happened, and there is PANIC about when and how it comes out.

      The MSM deep cabal connections are in a panic.

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        1. Gee…..the flak aimed at QAnon is getting heavy.

          According to the NYSlimes, it’s being called “a cult”…”a potential domestic terrorist threat”…

          But QAnon conspiracy theory was/is “baseless”.


          That sure is a lot of flak for a baseless group of folks!!

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              1. They’re trying to advance the El Paso false flag MK bot with 90 charges against him.

                How about his TACTICAL PRO buddy? Will we see any justice there?



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    1. “Vetting”

      As in checking for fleas and ticks??

      I looked up the official definition of the word….

      “ make a careful and critical examination of (something).”


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        1. Personally, I think it’s safe to assume that “vetting” here means “incorporating into the on-going criminal investigation being conducted by US Atty Durham.”

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            1. Well, after all, Mayor G made his bones successfully prosecuting the mafia in NY city. He is a HIGHLY respected criminal prosecutor.

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    1. And in light of Sec Pompeo’s speech yesterday….there’s this….

      Seems like the tide is definitely turning

      Liked by 9 people

          1. Could be Chris Wray saying that the FISA investigations were all illegal.

            I think we’re about to see actual justice. HANG ON…..

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    2. As I and so many others have been saying for years.

      McCarthy was a man WAY ahead of his time….and his enemies successfully took advantage of his weaknesses to paint him as an extremist.

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      1. The Fake News handled McCarthy just like their communist friends, handlers and bosses wanted. Realizing that the FAKE NEWS led him over a FALSE CLIFF was a real revelation.

        Thanks to Thomas, I finally *actually* listened to the famous clip where McCarthy was allegedly beaten to a pulp, and no such thing happened, IMO. The MEDIA FRAMED IT THAT WAY. In fact, the lawyer who pulled that line sounded a lot like Hillary Clinton, with her famous, shoulder-bouncing, super-staged, rehearsed, “At this point, what difference does it make?” speechlet.

        It was BOGUS. McCarthy was NOT humiliated. The FAKE NEWS simply created that psychology, on cue, as part of their STAGING.

        McCarthy stayed mature in his reponse, but the press simply REMOVED THE OXYGEN with an EXCUSE, that day. It was a very cunning and coordinated plan. Just like the whole fake news came out with “dark” after Trump’s inauguration speech, so they turned on McCarthy in unison and CREATED a false reality.

        Americans FELL FOR IT. And thus the communist plot proceeded in EARNEST.

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    1. A little information about DiFi from 8 kun ..

      ▶Anonymous 02/09/20 (Sun) 17:05:17 a12e68 (2) No.8083662>>8083697 >>8083735 >>8083875 >>8084026
      Gavin, DiFi 2005 Delegation to China, with handy Cali China Friendship Timeline!
      Former Mayor of San Francisco Dianne Feinstein formed the San Francisco-Shanghai Sister City Committee.
      In 1980, former Mayor of San Francisco Dianne Feinstein visits Shanghai for the first time and establishes the Sister City Relationship with former and current President of Association for Relations Across Taiwan Straits Mayor Wang Daohan.
      Medical exchange programs begin
      Establishment of the American Foundation of Traditional Chinese Medicine and Business Management Program.
      First class of the Business Management Program is formed.
      Shanghai Judges Delegation is formed.
      Agricultural Delegation is formed.
      Shanghai Hotel Delegation is formed.
      Former Mayor of Shanghai and former Premier of China Zhu Rongji visits San Francisco.
      Former Mayor of Shanghai and the Executive Vice Premier of China Huang Ju visits San Francisco.
      San Francisco-Shanghai Sister City Committee is awarded the Rotary International Awards for “Most Outstanding Friendship Program.”
      Shanghai Week in San Francisco.
      Former Mayor Frank Jordan’s visit to Shanghai.
      Sports Exchanges begin
      Former Mayor and former President of China Jiang Zemin visits San Francisco and dedicates the Maletesta Library at the University of San Francisco’s Center for the Pacific Rim.
      Former Mayor Willie L. Brown, Jr. visits Shanghai.
      San Francisco Week in Shanghai.
      Agricultural Exchanges continues.
      Former Mayor and former President of China Jiang Zemin.
      Funding to Ricci Institute for the Shanghai Library Catalogue project.
      Most recent class (7th) of the Business Management Program is formed
      Mayor Han Zheng visits San Francisco.
      Senator Dianne Feinstein, Mayor Gavin Newsom, and over 50 delegates embark on San Francisco Trade and Friendship Mission to Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong organized by James Fang, Chairman and the San Francisco-Shanghai Sister City Committee.
      New projects between San Francisco and Shanghai include:
      – A Shanghai Healing Garden at University of California San Francisco’s Osher Center.
      – Middle School Exchanges.
      – Business Management Program executive fellows are sent to Shanghai.
      – Policy and Public Security Exchanges.
      – San Francisco Symphony, led by Music Director Michael Tilson Thomas, will embark on a historic two-week tour in China.

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      1. ▶Anonymous 02/09/20 (Sun) 17:08:31 a12e68 (2) No.8083697>>8083735 >>8083875 >>8084026
        BRIDGE PHAMACEUTICALS & Gavin Newsom:
        Bridge Pharmaceuticals yesterday dedicated its recently completed Bridge Zhongguancun Preclinical Drug Development Laboratory I.
        In attendance at the ceremony were: San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom; Deputy Mayor Beijing Municipal Office Hao Lu; Beijing Deputy Mayor Bo-Yuan Fan; US Embassy Senior Commercial Officer Craig Allen; Former Beijing Deputy Mayor Zhao-Guang Hu; Director of Beijing Municipal Industrial Development Bureau Lian-Yuan Cheng; Director of Beijing Municipal Science Technology Office Hai Feng; and Former San Francisco Mayor Frank Jordon.
        This 7,800 square meter facility puts Bridge at the forefront of preclinical outsourcing to China and will be the first and only US level GLP and AAALAC designed facility in China. The Zhongguancun facility will house primates, rodents, canines, rabbits. Services will include: FDA compliant GLP toxicology, pharmacology, predictive PK/ADMET, safety pharmacology, formulation and other services. Through its Vital Bridge joint venture, Bridge has expert local partners in China that provide animal supplies from the largest and only US-franchised (Charles River and Marshall Farms) quality animal breeding facilities in China.
        For Bridge, the opening of this facility marks the next phase in outsourcing preclinical drug development to Asia. By controlling its own facility in China, Bridge will have the capacity and expertise to provide FDA compliant preclinical drug development services to pharmaceutical and biotech companies throughout the world. This new facility positions Bridge as the leading preclinical CRO in China targeting US and EU biopharmaceutical companies.
        “The San Francisco Bay Area is the birthplace of biotech and has remained the worldwide leader in life sciences innovation. Escalation of the price of drugs, as evidenced by California’s recent ballot initiative, is an increasing hardship and concern,” said San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom.


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  2. So, can the US Marshalls be at the Oscars? With bracelets for swag? And extradite Barry Soetoro to Ukraine? On national television? Pretty please, with sugar on top? DREAM BIG!!!

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  3. I really like Mike Huckabee’s videos…so informative and entertaining. Apologies if they are already posted. Here are the ones I watched today:

    LTC Allen West Is Giving NEW HOPE To Texas Conservatives | Huckabee

    Funny AND true: Impeachment FALLOUT: Trump Is More Popular Than EVER | Huckabee

    They Called Alan Dershowitz HITLER For Defending The Constitution! | Huckabee

    I’ve sent these to some of my Canadian friends, who don’t like PDJT…

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  4. No background or reference anywhere on this. Replies suggesr broken beck or sedation. She is breathing at the endnof the video and wouldnt do that without assistance for long depending on the severity and placement of the fracture. Essentially we just shouldnt believe anything from China, or anyone from here that defends them, esp over the top defense.

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    1. Hmmmm. What is it the commie bastards say?

      “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

      How many people that the commie Chinese gov’t “see” as enemies are they using this crisis to take out??

      “Oh, he/she was a victim of the virus.”

      These people are sick and evil.

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          1. Very true.

            You know they always made comments about what if during WWII they would have had cell phones. People would not have seen what was happening and stopped it. You know I used to think that but look at any of these atrocities we see nowadays. In South Africa ec now in China and the world watches and does nothing.

            But I agree people overlooked what China really is.

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  6. I was listening to the radio while I went out to grab a pizza and heard them say something about “the ninety second Oscars” and thought, “Cool, they’ve trimmed the whole gruesome spectacle down to a minute-and-a-half.”

    But, no……..

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    1. Uh, some of us have the Oscars, Grammy’s and whatever other hollyweird lovefest awards where they celebrate each other to record time. ZERO seconds.

      Easy peasy. Don’t watch. Easily ten years since I watched any of those assholes slobber on each other AND insult Americans that don’t align with lefty crap.

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    2. Haha. I was thinking they should go back to radio Oscars announcements. With at the woke climate folk worried about co2 they wont have to travel, get dressed up, eat meat or anything. Just sit and listen like anyone else who is interested in it.

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  7. Lisa Mei Crowley Retweeted
    James Woods

    This is a stunning moment in American culture. Proud, dedicated police sergeants declaring war on a treacherous cop-hater who has done more to incite violence against #LawEnforcement than anyone in history. No punches pulled. A shocking indictment of #CopHaterDeBlasio

    · 5h
    Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!

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    1. As always, need way more info to know what really happened.

      Here is what I can see thanks to the video…

      – Small airport with only one runway. How long was that runway? What was the wind speed/direction?
      – Flaps not full (which is not unusual…but it can be a factor)
      – higher than normal approach speed…could be many reasons for this, but unusual given runway conditions of snow/ice
      – rate of descent dramatically increases in the last 50 ft before touchdown

      That last one is what I’d be focusing in on right off the bat. What caused that? Too many possibilities to list.

      As usual, likely a chain of issues all leading to the event. 99.9% of the time it’s never just one thing.

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        1. The term “concrete” has long been suspected of the Pope’s code word for help but I’d of thought he’d of gotten a new one by now since so many are aware. Anyone’s guess but it does seem time if there is any truth to the kettle getting beginning to boil over there as well as here.

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  9. Evil and brought to you by a firmer potus.

    “Documentary filmmaker Julia Reichert used a line from “The Communist Manifesto” during her Sunday night acceptance speech after winning an Oscar for best documentary feature.

    “Our film is from Ohio and China, but it really could be from anywhere that people put on a uniform, punch a clock, trying to make a better life,” Reichert said after winning the award. “We believe things will get better when workers of the world unite.”



    “Workers of the world unite” is a well-known line from “The Communist Manifesto” by Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx. Translated “Proletarier aller Länder vereinigt Euch!” in German, it means “Proletarians of all countries, unite!” but became common in English as “Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!”

    Reichert’s documentary film “American Factory,” co-directed with Steven Bognar, is the first picture to come from Higher Ground Productions, the production company ownedby former first couple Barack and Michelle Obama.”

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    1. “Workers of the world unite”…is also the motto of the SEIU.

      Service Employees International Union.

      The SEIU is for Open Borders and other commie policies…and is a huge supporter of the Dems.

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