20200127: Coronavirus Update Thread

NOTE FROM WOLF: Please go to the newest update thread BELOW for current postings:


This thread retained for reference and historical data.

Thank you – and thank you, Daughn, for these threads!


Our Coronavirus thread has grown substantially. Please consider this the update thread. This thread will run all week long (unless something dire happens and we need another one but not likely).

None of us want to spread bad information, and we don’t want to OVERreact and spread hysteria. The problem with this issue is, that as fast as the disease is spreading, so is the bad information. Thus, this thread. Perhaps we can sort fact from fiction within this forum.

Most of the reporting refers to various provinces of China (like our states). This map might be helpful as a reference.

World Health Organization Link: https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus

American CDC Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html

The South China Morning Post is an outlet many of us follow. They are tracking the story closely. Here is their link: https://www.scmp.com/news/china

Hat tip to Itswoot for the following link and idea:

This is the website for the military version of the Center for Disease Control (CDC) Nothing here yet, or any other recent updates, on Coronavirus. Maybe worth checking on for research insights that they may come up with independent of the CDC.https://www.usamriid.army.mil/

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  3. Press Secretary:

    Secretary Azar:

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  4. Whoa…Wuhan City is China’s test city for 5G.

    “It is expected to be accessible to users at the Military World Games in 2019.

    By 2020, 5G network will cover every corner of the city and be available at an affordable price.”


    The Military World Games were held in late October 2019. If I’m understanding this correctly, there was an increased rollout of 5G in October, then WuFlu started showing up by December. Did everyone in Wuhan get their immune system nuked by 5G?

    I’m still firmly in the “The WuGaloo is a Chinese psy-op,” but the 5G stuff is an interesting angle…

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  5. Pre-print of a study from China (OFFICIAL)
    “Estimating the effective reproduction number of the 2019-nCoV in China”
    Authors: Zhidong Cao (1), Qingpeng Zhang (1), Xin Lu, Dirk Pfeiffer, Zhongwei Jia, Hongbing Song, Daniel Dajun Zeng

    … Early genome sequence and clinical studies of 2019-nCoV provided the evidence of human-to-human transmission and revealed its similarity to as well as differences from SARS (3-5). However, epidemiological investigations of 2019-nCoV are just beginning, and data-driven studies are critically needed to develop insights into this ongoing outbreak….

    Using the data described above, is estimated to be 4.08, indicating that an infected 𝑅 patient infects more than four susceptible people during the outbreak. This value substantially exceeds WHO’s estimate of (supposed to be smaller than ) between 1.4 and 2.5, and is 𝑅0 𝑅 also higher than a recent estimate between 3.6 and 4.0 ( 𝑅 8). Compared against the 2003 0 SARS epidemic, of 2019-nCoV is higher than that of SARS in both Beijing (2.76) and 𝑅 Guangzhou (3.01) (calculated using the same method)….

    The SEIRDC model estimates the fatality rate for 2019-nCoV is 6.50%. As a base of comparison, the fatality rate for 2003 SARS was 7.66% and 3.61% for Beijing and Guangzhou, respectively. We used the model to predict the confirmed case counts and death counts in the first 80 days of the ongoing 2019-nCoV outbreak….

    In conclusion, considering transmissibility and fatality rate, 2019-nCoV poses a major public health threat, at least at the level of 2003 SARS. E


    Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Automation, Beijing, China (Z. Cao, D.D. Zeng)

    University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing (Z. Cao, D.D. Zeng)

    Shenzhen Artificial Intelligence and Data Science Institute (Longhua), Shenzhen (Z. Cao, D.D. Zeng)

    City University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong (Q. Zhang, D. Pfeiffer)

    National University of Defense Technology, Changsha (X. Lu)

    Peking University, Beijing (Z. Jia)

    Chinese PLA Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Beijing (H. Song)

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  6. OH CRAP…

    Transmission of 2019-nCoV Infection from an Asymptomatic Contact in Germany

    ….A 33-year-old otherwise healthy German businessman (Patient 1) became ill with a sore throat, chills, and myalgias on January 24, 2020. The following day, a fever of 39.1°C (102.4°F) developed, along with a productive cough. By the evening of the next day, he started feeling better and went back to work on January 27.

    ….Before the onset of symptoms, he had attended meetings with a Chinese business partner at his company near Munich on January 20 and 21. The business partner, a Shanghai resident, had visited Germany between Jan. 19 and 22. During her stay, she had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection but had become ill on her flight back to China, where she tested positive for 2019-nCoV on January 26 …

    Contact tracing was started, and the above-mentioned colleague was sent to the Division of Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine in Munich for further assessment. At presentation, he was afebrile and well. He reported no previous or chronic illnesses and had no history of foreign travel within 14 days before the onset of symptoms. Two nasopharyngeal swabs and one sputum sample were obtained and were found to be positive for 2019-nCoV on quantitative reverse-transcriptase–polymerase-chain-reaction (qRT-PCR) assay.2 Follow-up qRT-PCR assay revealed a high viral load of 108 copies per milliliter in his sputum during the following days, with the last available result on January 29.
    On January 28, three additional employees at the company tested positive for 2019-nCoV (Patients 2 through 4 in Figure 1). Of these patients, only Patient 2 had contact with the index patient; the other two patients had contact only with Patient 1. In accordance with the health authorities, all the patients with confirmed 2019-nCoV infection were admitted to a Munich infectious diseases unit for clinical monitoring and isolation. So far, none of the four confirmed patients show signs of severe clinical illness.

    However, it is notable that the infection appears to have been transmitted during the incubation period of the index patient, in whom the illness was brief and nonspecific.3
    The fact that asymptomatic persons are potential sources of 2019-nCoV infection may warrant a reassessment of transmission dynamics of the current outbreak. In this context, the detection of 2019-nCoV and a high sputum viral load in a convalescent patient (Patient 1) arouse concern about prolonged shedding of 2019-nCoV after recovery. Yet, the viability of 2019-nCoV detected on qRT-PCR in this patient remains to be proved by means of viral culture…


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  7. This is my biggest fear. The tiny tot carrier who does not understand hygiene yet.

    ….The case of a 10-year-old boy who was diagnosed with the Wuhan coronavirus even though he showed no symptoms is raising concern that people may be spreading the virus…

    In Japan too: ”Symptomless Japanese tested positive…”https://twitter.com/caasi_daisuki/status/1223131273075388416

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  8. Article title: Coronavirus Contains “HIV Insertions”, Stoking Fears Over Artificially Created Bioweapon
    Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 01/31/2020 – 17:35

    An excerpt from the conclusion of the article:

    …Until he realized something disturbing.

    Oh my god. Indian scientists have just found HIV (AIDS) virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov virus that are not found in any other coronavirus. They hint at the possibility that this Chinese virus was designed [“not fortuitous’]. Scary if true. https://t.co/h6xPX1gYvj pic.twitter.com/kCpd1I00uE

    — Anand Ranganathan (@ARanganathan72) January 31, 2020
    “Scary”… but relax, it’s just another ridiculous “conspiracy.”

    Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

    Was reading a part of the Tom Clancy book, “Executive Orders”, which part of the plot gets into a weaponized ebola attack on the USA. I found this sentence in the story to be of interest as it relates to the altering of Coronaviris to weaponize it.

    “Besides, there are ways to fortify a virus, as you know. You admit some cancer genes into the structure”

    Clancy was a thorough researcher when writing on any subject.

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        1. They know they can get away with it. They have excuses – “reasonable doubt” – only if there are people at Twitter BRAVE ENOUGH to tell the truth when the time comes.

          I saw how this works in Shallow State. They keep the “need to know” very small. REAL conspiracies minimized key knowledge distribution. Most people act on WRONG information that gives the right outcome. Just like the “Russian bots” thing. They can’t make all those people conspire for a nasty malignant purpose – so they deceive those who can be deceived. Just like I was in CA3. I was a true-believer, but I had other “qualities” that were needed for the ruse.

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    2. This study is being examined like crazy right now.
      Noteworthy scientists concerned about these findings and examining the study.
      Does not make sense for the RNA to be found normally in a coronavirus (“It would not happen naturally”)

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    3. www2.health.vic.gov.au/public-health/infectious-diseases/disease-information-advice/hiv-and-aids

      So — it appears that the SEROCONVERSION PERIOD for HIV (when the virus becomes detectable in the bloodstream) is between 1 – 4 WEEKS. From there —
      The period of time from seroconversion to the DEVELOPMENT of ANTIBODIES in the blood is anywhere from 1 – 3 MONTHS. From there —
      The interval between HIV infection to the DIAGNOSIS of AIDS is anywhere between 9 MONTHS and 20 YEARS, with reports of “rapid onset” to AIDS between 3 – 5 years and also of people who DO NOT develop AIDS at all.

      S0 — IF it is PROVEN that ANY presence of HIV (or HIV derivative) is in the Wuhan Coronavirus, that makes the possibility that ANY PERSON infected with Wuhan can not only have HIV themselves, but ALSO be carriers of HIV.

      Remember the post I put on this thread a few days ago, about the Chiefio commenter who has an MD friend and is ALREADY following precautions in their own clinic?
      The MD said that as of 7 FEBRUARY, all persons need to start wearing masks and gloves in public — create and use a “drop area” in their homes where all clothes worn outside are removed and dropped into the washing machine for HOTTEST WATER cleaning — HOT showers — avoid crowds — get in supplies — etc.

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  9. I would be terrified if the UN, WHO, CDC, or Obama administration were in charge. When it comes to public health, Trump appointees are old-school.

    And the thing about old-school? It pisses people off, but it works.

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    1. Amen. You know who Obama made into his “Ebola czar”? A friggin’ DAMAGE CONTROL PR EXPERT with zero real crisis management or scientific background.

      When people called him “Obola” and leftists complained, I gave them an EARFUL!!!

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  10. Source is an NBC affiliate, but sharing just in case

    NBC Bay Area
    JUST IN: A man who recently traveled back to Boston from Wuhan, China, has been diagnosed as the first Massachusetts resident with the new coronavirus, and the eighth case confirmed in the U.S.


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