Dear KAG: 20200121 Open Thread

Welcome to the new Tuesday open thread where the Classical World’s god of war will be front and center. The day, in fact, in every language is named for him.

And given that our source known as Q has all but said it’s showtime, Mars is front and center. It’s on, and we’d best be ready.

A little mood music is in order.

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  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.


A quick word from our Eternal Sponsor via the Prophet Isaiah:

Do you not know? hath it not been heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have you not understood the foundations of the earth? [22] It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. [23] He that bringeth the searchers of secrets to nothing, that hath made the judges of the earth as vanity. [24] And surely their stock was neither planted, nor sown, nor rooted in the earth: suddenly he hath blown upon them, and they are withered, and a whirlwind shall take them away as stubble. [25] And to whom have ye likened me, or made me equal, saith the Holy One?

[26] Lift up your eyes on high, and see who hath created these things: who bringeth out their host by number, and calleth them all by their names: by the greatness of his might, and strength, and power, not one of them was missing. [27] Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel: My way is hid from the Lord, and my judgment is passed over from my God? [28] Knowest thou not, or hast thou not heard? the Lord is the everlasting God, who hath created the ends of the earth: he shall not faint, nor labour, neither is there any searching out of his wisdom. [29] It is he that giveth strength to the weary, and increaseth force and might to them that are not. [30] Youths shall faint, and labour, and young men shall fall by infirmity.

[31] But they that hope in the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall take wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

411 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20200121 Open Thread

  1. illegals getting drivers licenses in Illinois voted…”system glitch” failed to remove them from voting rolls…would would have thought?
    Spokesman Matt Dietrich told WCIA on Monday that 574 non-U.S. citizens were inadvertently registered to vote in Illinois, adding, “We do know that some of them voted in 2018.” He surmised that some may have been legal citizens who incorrectly filled out the state form to vote, although it appears much if not all of the problem was that Illinois permits non-citizens to obtain driver’s licenses.

    Democrat Secretary of State Jesse White’s office acknowledged the mistake in a letter to the State Board of Elections on December 18. Spokesman Henry Haupt of White’s office stated, “For whatever reason that technological programming error did not properly remove the individuals. The individuals who are applying for driver’s license were inadvertently pooled into the automatic voter registration.” He added, “This was an isolated case that impacted less than one-tenth of one percent of the people registered through automatic voter registration. As soon as the program error was discovered, it was fixed, and the individuals were notified, including the State Board of Elections and the local election authorities.”

    The Macon County Sheriff’s race was decided by one vote. The News-Gazette reported in December 2018:

    A Decatur man who was told he lost his bid to become Macon County sheriff by one vote is asking a judge to review the election results in hopes he’ll be declared the winner. Republican Jim Root filed suit Wednesday in Macon County Circuit Court against Democrat Tony “Chubby” Brown, the current sheriff, seeking to overturn Brown’s victory …The request for judicial relief comes on the heels of a discovery recount that Root’s local attorney, Jerrold Stocks, believes actually puts Root five votes ahead of Brown instead of one vote behind.

    WCIA noted, “Illinois law allows immigrants who are not citizens to get a driver’s license or state identification. Both state and federal law prohibits non-citizens from participating in American elections … Non-citizens who vote in American elections can face swift consequences, including immediate deportation.”

    State Representative Tim Butler (R-Springfield) explained, “Non-citizens can have driver’s licenses in the state of Illinois. A driver’s license is a key tool in registering someone to vote. Oftentimes it’s your driver’s license that is one of the two documents that we use to verify that you’re a registered citizen … If that person voted, that’s a huge problem when it comes to the federal government. That’s a deportable offense for this person. And if that’s the case, that’s something that’s on the Secretary of State’s office for allowing that offense to happen.”

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  2. My brain tells me that dismissal based on the law is the most logical and sensible thing to happen.

    But my heart tells me to put on every frigging witness anybody wants, and to have VSG be the very last witness.

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    1. ^^^ 100% shampeachment needs to be bottom blown…disposed of. Horrible precedent. No crime.

      AND, while I would like a treasure trove ofd D-Rat bad actors and others experience a meat grinder of interrogation on the national stage, I, perhaps we, can be patient a bit moar.

      I continue to believe President Trump through AG Barr will ensure everything is exposed AND justice will be delivered. Good we are a patient lot. Surely an emerging characteristic for me.

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  3. Wow. They want to say Tylenol causes cancer even though really theres zero evidence. All this will do is remove any acetaminophen from the entire CA market, in at least 600 products and create a lawsuit dresm market for scum sucking ambulance chasers. GD govt fools.

    “SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A fight is coming to California over whether to list one of the world’s most common over-the-counter drugs as a carcinogen, echoing recent high-profile battles over things like alcohol and coffee.

    The drug is acetaminophen, known outside the U.S. as paracetamol and used to treat pain and fevers. It is the basis for more than 600 prescription and over-the-counter medications for adults and children, found in well-known brands like Tylenol, Excedrin, Sudafed, Robitussin and Theraflu.

    Acetaminophen has been available in the U.S. without a prescription since 1955. Concerns about its potential link to cancer come from its relationship to another drug: phenacetin. That drug, once a common treatment for headaches and other ailments, was banned by the FDA in 1983 because it caused cancer.

    State regulators have reviewed 133 studies about acetaminophen, all of which were published in peer-reviewed journals. Some studies reported an increased risk of some types of cancers, while others did not. Overall, the review noted acetaminophen has been difficult to examine because it is hard to isolate it from other variables that could contribute to cancer, such as smoking.

    A state law known as Proposition 65 says California must warn people of any chemical known to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity. The state’s list has grown to about 900 chemicals, including toxic pesticides and flame retardants, and is more extensive than any in the U.S. Some critics say California regulators have been overzealous, requiring warning labels for countless products that confuse instead of inform consumers when the risk of cancer is disputed.

    Supporters of Prop 65 say it protects not only Californians but consumers nationwide by compelling manufacturers to make products safer.

    Evidence for acetaminophen’s link to cancer has been weak enough that the International Agency for Research on Cancer declined to list it as a possible carcinogen following reviews in 1990 and 1999. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has warned state officials that labeling acetaminophen as cancer-causing would be “false and misleading” and also illegal under federal law.”

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      1. DHMO (Dihydrogen Monoxide) is found in EVERY cancerous tumor, causes billions of dollars in property damage every year, and thousands die from inhaling it every year.

        Ban it, CA. Or get stuffed.

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    1. Sounds more like a shake down to fill the coffers. When Trump went into office product recalls dropped off perceptively. If they aren’t going to fork over money under the table then watch for aspirin commercials to start leaning left.

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    2. The whole cancer thing is bogus……but I refuse to have acetaminophen in my house. It has the smallest gap between “minimum clinical dose” (where it can be detected doing good things) and “LD50” (Lethal Dose 50[%] — the dose where it will kill half the people it’s given to) of any over-the-counter drug. In any given year, it is the #1 or #2 cause of acute liver failure in the UK or US, and has been for years. If you have any sort of impaired liver function (like casually drinking alcohol or, I dunno, being sick), it is EXTREMELY dangerous.

      And it’s found in many, many, many different compounds. If you take something for menstrual cramps, and a night-time flu medication, and something for your achy bones, you can easily go over the government “safe” level.

      I doubt it would be approved for prescriptions if licensed today, and it certainly wouldn’t be over-the-counter. The stuff is just toxic…….but carcinogenic? Nah.

      By comparison, ibuprofen is innocuous.

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        1. It also rips at stomach lining. I have a friend who lost a niece to internal bleeding due to her having taken ibuprofen on an empty stomach for a prolonged period of time.

          Plus, pregnant women can’t take it.

          Tylenol is rough on the liver.

          I avoid it all like the plague.

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      1. My son, now 6+ years post liver transplant, is not allowed to take ibuprofen. He can take acetaminophen if needed for fevers or pain. During another post-transplant surgical recovery period he was allowed tylenol w/ codeine. He is also prescribed a baby aspirin daily for some heart conditions.

        I recall during my post-partum phase being allowed to layer acetaminophen & ibuprophen (which could go up to 800mg in a dose during times of extreme pain). This would be taking one med & then about half way through the dosage period (2/4 or 3/6 depending) taking the other med. We rarely use that amount of medicine but it’s nice to know that we can help ourselves at home using over the counter meds reasonably.

        My son gets regular blood work to check his liver function & so far his liver numbers have remained very strong. He does have low level “chronic kidney disease” & I don’t know how the use of the various meds he takes impact that condition though it’s been there for years & hasn’t seemed to have gotten worse thankfully.

        In my son’s case using ibuprofen would be considered dangerous…glad to be in a place w/ freedom of choice unlike so many of the nanny states trying to make sweeping decisions restricting our freedoms & ability to make reasonable choices based on our individual needs/wants/medical requirements, etc…


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  5. in case not posted already

    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: aa5bcf No.7866851
    Jan 21 2020 14:06:47 (EST) NEW
    [D] party leaders [‘Big 5’]:
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) – Speaker of the House
    Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) – Chair Intel
    Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) – Chair Judiciary
    Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) – Senate Minority Leader
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) – Ranking Mem Judiciary
    Control over [CA] & [NY] vital to maintain [D] structural integrity?

    Leverage (control) dictates how far you rise within the [D] party.

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  6. 3779
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: aa5bcf No.7866857
    Jan 21 2020 14:07:34 (EST) NEW
    They are not attempting to remove POTUS from office.
    [2/3rd Senate will not vote to convict [no law(s) broken]]
    They are attempting to protect themselves from prosecution and prevent the public from discovering the truth.

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      1. I believe the witnesses will indeed expose them, and ONLY an impeachment trial will have enough visibility to do the damage to them that needs done. if the senate just acquits and holds hearings…guess who will NEVER let their customers see anything about the hearings??

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  7. 3781
    Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: aa5bcf No.7867006
    Jan 21 2020 14:25:16 (EST) NEW
    Anonymous ID: 96d735 No.7866980
    Jan 21 2020 14:22:36 (EST) NEW

    Thank you, Anon.
    [SEC] server re-routes create delays.

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  8. Why in the hell is Schumer issuing a subpoena NOW?
    And why are we entertaining said subpoena with a vocal reading on national television.
    If they wanted a subpoena, why didn’t the HOUSE do it?
    Or fight and pursue objections to subpoena?

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    1. The target is the Senate. They know they can’t beat Trump so they plan to after the Senators. Slow his progress and then do impeachment when they have the numbers.

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  9. OK, for some diversion:
    Prince Harry just figured out a way to finance Meghan’s lifestyle now that he’s been cut off from British taxpayer funds:
    Prince Harry and Meghan Markle apparently sent letters, via a Canadian attorney, to several British news outlets, threatening to sue photographers from the outlets who are snapping pictures of Meghan in Canada.
    The prince, who landed in Canada to join his wife and son Archie, hired the Canadian law firm Schillings to send the letters.
    He compared the “harassment” of Meghan to the treatment from the press that his mother, Princess Diana, was subjected to.

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        1. She thrives on it and plays the victim. Mo money mo attention. Now what TRULY DEEPLY concerns me is that baby is fast approaching the time when he will be the one who is more vocal and needs attention. A nanny can only do so much. How far will she go when he “gets in her way”?

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  10. Looked to me like Sekulow was trying to control his anger, and who could blame him after sitting through that Schiffshow!

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        1. Well… I “told” her… And I gave GA/FL the “credit”… When I “shared” it elsewhere…!
          (let me know if I was within the “rules of etiquette”!)

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          1. I know – the word stealing bothers me – I like sharing, better – that’s all – besides – one kind find these things all over the Internet – no one owns them – and they are frequently shared.

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    1. Throwing the Iranians out of their country!!!!!!!!
      This is sooooooo good.

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    1. COO of the NYC Public Libraries?

      Iris Weinshall (born September 5, 1953) is the Chief Operating Officer of The New York Public Library,[1] former vice chancellor at the City University of New York and a former commissioner of the New York City Department of Transportation.[2] Weinshall was appointed Chief Operating Officer by the Library in July 2014, and she began her tenure on September 1, 2014.[1] She is the wife of U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer.

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        1. Did you mean this? “Opposed to the installation of a bicycling facility on her own street, Weinshall helped to organize a group calling itself Neighbors for Better Bike Lanes (NBBL) aimed at removing the bike lane.”

          Nahhh. She’s just ahead of her times, thinking local and not big picture. It’s typical commie clean up. “Remember all that stuff we promised you if you’d put us in power? Yeah, well we didn’t really mean it.”

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  11. Compare and contrast:

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        1. Why would they do that? Satan’s neatest trick is to avoid the spotlight so that the people forget he exists. You’d think someone like Brennan would understand the strategy. Valerie J. certainly does. And I’m waiting for the dirt on her to see the light of day. I would imagine there’s algae and fungus growing on it at this point.

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      1. Well, as Q posted…it’s all about leverage. In this case, there has to be MAJOR leverage against Brennen and he’s like an organ grinder’s monkey that performs on command.

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    1. This is precisely why Dr. Epstein is worth killing, shutting up, or discrediting, to Deep State and the Soviet Democrats. A loose hit that takes out either him or his wife became a no-brainer to these horrible monsters.

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      1. Dr. Epstein seems more of an Expert Witness as opposed to a Fact Witness having exposed some rather scullery evidence against the Lords of Technology and their client the Hilderbeast. The hit against his wife, if one can assume that is what it was (he certainly doesn’t seem to be in a mood to dissuade people it wasn’t) seems thus more a thing of retribution and warning to others as opposed to a silencing, since he’s already released his information to the public. Any further action against Dr. Epstein may well be just adding the exclamation point to said warning.

        What I’d wonder is if Dr. Epstein understood just how badly he’d crossed the Cabal or did he think once he exposed things he’d not be pursed. I’m thinking their may of been some naivety on Dr Epstein’s part though such seems gone now.

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  12. Greg has a THREAD on C_A involvement in NYT, Wapo, etc. – click time stamp

    I lived through the Church Committee Report hearings, which is why I forget that not everyone knows slime media is propaganda……….. that was 1975……….. how long does it take for peeps to believe something and still they listen every day and quote the crooks… SMH !

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    1. It’s subliminal brainwashing, PR – like robots – they are drawn to the TV – the constant hum – habitually – it is sad really – I understand many of the so called ‘reporters’ on these networks are former employees – so the propaganda does not surprise me –

      If you listened to Dustin Nemos’ little compilation about what the MSM said of the VA Protests – it is obvious they were spinning a different story – unfortunately – they did not get it – it was as if they were salivating, too!

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      1. True. Hunter’s financial records will raise more questions about Joe and Ukraine (and who knows what else). If they are thinking about Joe’s election chances being affected by this, they don’t appear to have a strategy to fight it.

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    1. Two thoughts.

      Hope the judge tosses where’s Hunter in solitary until financials are delivered to the court.

      AND, wonder if where’s Hunter’s ex has copies of their tax returns. If so, she could provide them.

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    2. Not sure how this part ends since the last judge recused himself, for what we have no earthly idea, and thus one might assume some judge shopping has occurred. Hopefully they shopped the wrong judge. Definitely one to watch.


  13. Is there a limit to how many impeachment amendments they can submit? It seems they could make this go on forever. What I’ve seen of Repub lawyers has been good, but I want fireworks. 🎆 I want the pic of Schiff with Ed Buck, I want the whistleblower called as a witness, I want O’s real birth certificate, LOL.

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  14. A little something to take your mind off things

    A guy walks into a bar in New Orleans and sees that the bartender is a robot.
    The robot says,
    “What will you have?”

    The guy replies, “Whiskey.”
    The robot brings back his drink and asks,
    “What’s your IQ?”
    The guy says, “168.”
    The robot proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration, and medical technology.

    After the guy leaves and the more he thinks about it, the more curious he gets, so he decides to go back.
    The robot asks,
    “What’s your drink?”
    The guy answers,
    The robot returns with his drink and asks,
    “What’s your IQ?”
    The man replies,
    Then the robot talks about NASCAR, Budweiser, the Saints, and LSU.

    The man finishes his drink, leaves, but is so interested in his “experiment” that he decides to try again.
    He enters the bar and, as usual, the robot asks him what he wants to drink.
    The man replies,
    The robot brings the drink and asks,
    “What’s your IQ?”
    The man answers,
    The robot leans in real close and asks,
    “So . . . do you folks really think you’re going to impeach Donald Trump?”

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