Dear KAG!: 20191226 Open Thread

 This Night before Daughn Thursday 20191226 Open Thread is Open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG! You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

However, we have a new policy. Starting 20191110. Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation. NOT HERE. This board will remain a REFUGE for those who need civility, either some or all of the time.

They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM. Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


Also remember Wheatie’s Rules: •1.No food fights. •2.No running with scissors. •3.If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone .

Hoping you all had a Merry Christmas and as President Donald J. Trump said Wishing You a VERY HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR!


336 thoughts on “Dear KAG!: 20191226 Open Thread

    1. Trump’s use of the ECONOMY to batter THEM was a great plan. Trump’s use of ENERGY to power the ECONOMY was also a great plan. Hence THEIR counterattack on ENERGY using Carter Page and George Papadopoulos and running it through reliable leftist minion Stefan Halper.

      THEY have fought Trump very smartly every inch of the way.

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    1. Found it in the replies. This link:

      See Moby’s Grim New Video About Smartphone Addiction

      Here is the video:

      MOBY. As soon as I saw THAT (Rolling Stone and Moby), I was visited by an old friend:

      First of all, I noticed. This is powerful demoralization.

      Yes, I agree, we need more personal connection in real life. This is all brilliant criticism of the “online move of humanity”.

      BUT – I will be honest – we could never have begun to take down the cabal without social media. THEY KNOW IT.

      So what gives? Is the smartphone world GOOD or BAD?

      Smartphones – connectedness – the internet – these are precisely the SOCIAL ADVANTAGE that is LIBERATING US from the freaking CABAL. Yes, these things are TOOLS, and like all tools, they are weapons, too.

      Go back and analyze that video – scene by scene. All the BAD from social media – in many cases just goofy crap side effects. What are the positives of social media and personal devices?

      Followed by…..

      So – yes – society is being CHANGED by social media and smartphone culture in ways that we don’t want. But we must not let the LIARS and CABAL get us to throw the baby out with the bathwater – AS THEY WANT.

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            1. I’ll say this – since I’ve learned to leave my devices alone while driving or walking, they have definitely shifted into the “mostly good” category. That, plus no apparent real-time tracking by black hats. They are back into the helpful and benign category.

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      1. It seems (to me) that the problem is not social media in and of itself, but all the psychologically addictive behaviors it very purposefully creates and implements.

        If it was just a neutral tool, that’s one thing.

        It’s quite different if that tool is intentionally designed like a joy buzzer that gives the rat new rat-pellets every time he pushes the joy buzzer button.

        And that is the problem.

        Yes, it is a tool.

        If it was a tool that was completely under OUR control, like a hammer (or a gun), no problem.

        But it’s not.

        It’s a tool that is being used AGAINST us, very purposefully.

        And you don’t want to be around a hammer (or a gun…) that is not COMPLETELY and TOTALLY under YOUR control.

        THAT is the problem.

        It is designed to be addictive, everything about it. And everything about it is designed to collect data on YOU, because that data is making someone else MONEY.

        Not only are you not being compensated for your contribution, but all the manipulation and privacy violations (and monetization of same) is likewise hidden from you.

        So it’s a million times worse than cigarettes.

        Cigarettes are designed to be addictive so once you’re hooked, you continue to buy them, and the side effect is declining health until you die. But the cigarette companies were ‘only’ making money off the continual purchase of cigarettes.

        Cell phones / social media are designed to be addictive (like cigarettes), and once you’re hooked you continue to use them. But unlike the cigarette companies, it doesn’t end there, that’s just the beginning of the abuse and negative side effects.

        Once you’re hooked, you are continually exposed to the latest, greatest addictive constructs that research money can buy, and the appetite for your personal information (and ways to capture it and monetize it) is voracious and insatiable.

        It’s sick.

        I won’t use one.

        Maybe a trac-phone in the car for emergencies, but even that, I would remove the battery and tape it to the outside of the phone, so it can’t be used as a tracking device.

        The whole scheme needs to be exposed and people should be prosecuted and sued out of business. This is a million times more dangerous than cigarettes ever could be, and nobody is even THINKING of putting a warning label on it, much less calling it the poison that it is.

        I hate regulation. I don’t trust regulation, regulation is abused, and it’s only a stop-gap measure until companies figure out ways around the regulation.

        But I trust the multinational corporations and enemies of America even less than I trust regulation.

        It won’t stop until we stop it.

        I wouldn’t let my kids have a cell phone, and if I could take my nieces and nephews’ cell phones away, I would throw them in the trash. I see what it does to them, how it’s gives them an ‘out’ to disengage from social situations and go into their ‘online world’, and their parents do nothing… oblivious.

        And if you say anything to their parents, they either agree but do nothing, or roll their eyes and change the subject.

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    1. I would LOVE to see Mittens indicted! Don’t forget he and McCain connect to the Ukraine also.

      𝙳𝚛. 𝚀𝚞𝚒𝚐𝚕𝚎𝚢 @CarrollQuigley1

      Pretty crazy how Burisma has several Romney guys on the board including former CIA agent Cofer Black.

      Oh and Senor was also on Rubio’s security council….

      Senor built a reputation on pro-war disinformation, propaganda, regime change, and investment banking. He became a familiar face on Fox news as a mouthpiece for the military industrial complex.

      Eventually went to work for Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney….

      From his thread:

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      1. Yeah,
        You have several ReBoobs as well as DemonRats. As long as people on BOTH SIDES go down for corruption, I think Americans as a whole will not kick. After all it will be bipartisan. 😋

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        1. “As long as people on BOTH SIDES go down for corruption, I think Americans as a whole will not kick. After all it will be bipartisan.”


          I could care less if Americans ‘kick’ or not.

          They can kick all they want. Scream too.

          Neither one is relevant to justice.

          In fact, the more certain American’s ‘kick’ and ‘scream’, the better.

          That means the message that justice could care less about your favorite brand of traitor is getting through LOUD and CLEAR.


    1. Hey Pete, you should get together with Mark Galli and share Theology notes.Sounds like its time for a new version of the Scriptures. Let’s go with the Political Bible. Maybe you can get Antifa to hand it out.

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    2. Pete Buttigieg: “Today I join millions around the world in celebrating the arrival of divinity on earth,”


      Pete, does that same divinity not declare your homosexual fornication an abomination?

      Asking for a friend.


    1. Love these kids.
      Gunner’s favorite game as a kid was Mousetrap, then he found the erector sets, and my dad’s marbles. He consistently won the Rube Goldberg challenges.
      Proud of them.

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  1. This right here is a HUGE weapon in 2020. NO DEMS!!!

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  2. The current Intellectual Froglegs is excellent, as usual. It mentions the TEA Party and how the media tried to portray it as a bunch of gun-crazed racists. I remember when some network showed a gun being carried at a TP rally to prove their point, but they didn’t show that the owner of that gun was a black man. That was my first realization of how far the media would reach to smear and defeat us — in short, that they would shamelessly lie.

    It seems to me that, today, they would not be able to get away with it nearly as easily. There are citizen journalists everywhere, and they are fearless. People video everything, and we have crack researchers who can find anything. The number of people with their own video channels has exploded. Citizens also have big media on their radar and are watching their every move. So the media is still going to lie, but they know they will get caught and called out for blatant stunts like that. They are reduced to making things up that are not as easily disproven, like producing false witnesses with false timelines. We are the news now.

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      1. It’s very important that people start piecing together the SOVIET SCRIPT of setting enemies up for failure. This is STRAIGHT OUT OF SOVIET COMMUNISM. In order to rise in communism, one must set up one’s competitors. This is how Lavrentiy Beria rose to become Stalin’s head of the secret police.

        To rise as a Soviet asset in America, these people had to set up AMERICANS as their enemies.

        Glenn Simpson’s RED DIAPER WIFE who is joined at the waist to HILLARY CLINTON becomes extremely important.

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        1. The word SCRIPT is vital to understand what is happening, IMO.

          Actually SCORE, as in a conductor’s score, would be more appropriate, IMO, as an orchestral score is far more complicated with every section and part having its own line, but without band or orchestral experience Americans have not been exposed to that. What VSGPDJT and the Q Team are doing is more along those lines.

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          1. YES. Consider that the Supreme Soviet was running literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of operations simultaneously to bring down the West.

            Ask why this operation against TRUMP, who is backed by the US Military, or at least most of it, seems to have gone so smoothly for so long. They are PRACTICED at this. Comey the FIXER got Hillary off of the Whitewater / Rose Law Firm stuff AS PLANNED.

            They JUST KEEP DOING IT. They’re RELENTLESS.

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        1. No doubt!

          Sometimes it feels like we are being pulled further into the Swamp just to uncover its layers. After recently having a FUBAR in real life with a broken sewer pipe, I’m kind of sick of ‘digging deeper’.
          When do we get to stop digging and fix this fucker ?!?!?

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          1. Yes. PLANTS. And Manafort was especially important, because the Podesta brothers knew where all his bodies were buried, so they could create the LIES to use Manafort to bring DOWN anybody associated with him – PROVIDED the Fake News media were there to help.

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              1. I hate to say it again, but “AND logic”.

                Manafort was both a crook and a victim.

                Manafort was a MESS. He was dirty, he was out of work, he was under legal pressures, and he NEEDED that job from POTUS. He NEEDED a cash cow. The FBI working for Hillary and Podesta KNEW IT.

                I read a great article talking about Manafort’s personal life prior to getting the job with Trump. The guy was nearly a mental patient. He was tweaked, goaded, gang-stalked, pointed and harassed into NEEDING that Trump job, which the media helped get him into.

                Manafort was a toxic TIME-BOMB that the Dems wanted to PLANT in the Trump campaign. They used the FAKE MEDIA to help plant the bomb, getting rid of Lewandowski, and pumping Manafort’s brand like it was the greatest thing ever. Notice that nothing bad was really coming out about Manafort while the media helped insert him. Oh, NOES! Handsome Paul Manafort was Trump’s ONLY POSSIBLE SAVIOR from the mean old Cruz Delegate Scheme that coulda taken down Godzilla, guaranteed!

                OH, it’s all so obvious now!!!

                But afterwards? Oh, they changed tunes quickly when it was time to light Paul Manafort on fire to burn Trump.

                Any candidate who listened to the FAKE NEWS MEDIA would have been played like a TENDERFOOT. But NOT TRUMP.

                Manafort was a crook, but a victim, too.

                Once a crook tries to go straight, they are ALWAYS undermined, both by themselves AND by their old criminal friends, unless they just resist with everything they’ve got.

                And who do crooks betray? OTHER CROOKS. Who do crooks use? OTHER CROOKS. So Podesta and Comey and Mueller used that guy to the MAX.

                Manafort was the perfect plant. HE was the one that really counted. And Trump just nuked that ploy when he got rid of Manafort and brought in Kellyanne Conway and Breitbart / Bannon / Mercer.

                Notice how well-prepared Trump was to DITCH Paul Manafort? He knew. I’m convinced that he knew.

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              2. What a phenomenal story – it all makes sense now – I had little interest in Manafort – because the media made such a big deal about him – all of the ladies OT were smitten with him – well – no all – I was not.

                I was suspicious – then – when I discovered his connection to the Podestas – that was it – the bell went off loud and clear – when Q said he was a plant – I did not have the background info upon which to draw – which you have so graciously provided – Thanks!!!

                I knew Trump would have to go from one person to another – to get things done – he was surrounded with people he could not trust – but – from whom he could garner information – one after the other bit the dust – and suddenly – it all became clear – he knew all along they would undermine him – so he brought them in – watched them and used them – and when he got what he needed from them – they got the boot.

                What an ingenious plan – could you have accomplished this with a straight face – i could not – he knew these people – he knew they were dirty – and yet – there they were – right up front for all to see – Wow!

                No wonder we call him a very stable genius! Well-prepared – lol – you funny guy, Wolf!

                Remember – though – without God – none of this would have been possible!!!

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              1. I don’t think so, but no one thought Trump had a chance. The final race to the Republican nomination was between Cruz and Trump. No doubt Cruz was being carefully watched (and I imagine spied upon) just in case.

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            1. “In case Cruz became the nominee?”

              Cruz was a sitting target. Remember he is NOT an natural born citizen. He was born in Canada by a NON-American father out of a ??British?? Mother. (He had his Mother’s passport SEALED) She lived in the UK, I think was married and it is thought she became a UK citizen. She moved to Canada and VOTED in a Canadian election during the critical time period.

              Elisa Sluijs, Also said
              “….even by the American Immigration Laws he gave up being American when he turned 22 and had not denounced his Canadian status before then. by the Laws of immigration you must choose by the 21st birthday there is no holding duel citizenship in the US beyond 21 years of age. notarized copies of all these records are now filed with the Court of Queens bench in safe keeping so that no one can make them disappear as well as having been turned over to American Authorities whom we did not trust to investigate this matter as well, so we also sent to England copies of these notarized documents so they can not be destroyed or gotten rid of….”
              I know this is true because my boy friend in high school, US mother, Canadian father born in Canada, was agonizing over which citizenship he would hold and which he would give up. We had many many discussions about it. He decided Canadian.


              Elisa Sluijs said:
              ” And as a neighbor to Elanor I know more that I am sure Cruz does not want told but the Consulate in Calgary Alberta has no problem in stating she could not and did not record his birth with them as she was not American at the time of his birth. She could not have been for as many years as she lived in Canada with out visas being issued, All records previously stated are public records you however must send in a written request to obtain copies, Unlike the US this is all public record for a fee.

              I lived next door to Elanor Elizabeth Wilson for many years I was present when she went to Canada Immigration in 1968 and denounced her US Citizenship and surrendered her US Passport. she at that time was given Canadian Citizenship she went directly from there to the Canada Manpower Office and obtained a Canadian Social Insurance number, she then went to Alberta Health and obtained Alberta Health care, she also registered to Vote in the Canadian elections and did so as a Canadian citizen no Americans can vote in Canadian elections, nor can they hold Alberta Health coverage nor reside in Canada that long with out being deported for over staying her visa, she was American at the time of his birth I know I was there, I know too she went to the American Consulate in Calgary she was told she had given up her citizenship and her children had no status in the United States.

              She used her birth certificate to reenter the US under false pretenses as a US citizen in 1974 and did not let on she had denounced her citizenship I expect. But I can prove by consulate records, voters records, Alberta health care records, Immigration of Canada records, Social Insurance records{basically the same as social security in the states} that she was no longer American at the time of his birth but Canadian and had not reapplied to get her citizenship back either.

              Cruz whole claim to American Citizenship is false he is not American, and even by the American Immigration Laws he gave up being American when he turned 22 and had not denounced his Canadian status before then. by the Laws of immigration you must choose by the 21st birthday there is no holding duel citizenship in the US beyond 21 years of age. notarized copies of all these records are now filed with the Court of Queens bench in safe keeping so that no one can make them disappear as well as having been turned over to American Authorities whom we did not trust to investigate this matter as well, so we also sent to England copies of these notarized documents so they can not be destroyed or gotten rid of…

              Another commenter:

              This is the act that was law at the time of Cruz` birth.
              SEC. 320. [8 U.S.C. 1431]
              (a) A child born outside of the United States, one of whose parents at the time of the child’s birth was an alien and the other of whose parents then was and never thereafter ceased to be a citizen of the United States, shall, if such alien parent is naturalized, become a citizen of the United States, when-
              (1) such naturalization takes place while such child is under the age of eighteen years; and
              (2) such child is residing in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence at the time of naturalization or thereafter and begins to reside permanently in the United States while under the age of eighteen years.
              (b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply to an adopted child only if the child is residing in the United States at the time of naturalization of such adoptive parent, in the custody of his adoptive parents, pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence.

              By the language above you can see that Cruz never has been a legal citizen of the US. His father didn’t naturalize until 2005 so Cruz was over 18 years of age at the time of that naturalization so the naturalization of his father had no bearing on Cruz himself and there is no paper work with the INS for any legal admission to the US for Cruz at any time. He isnt even eligible to be a US Senator.
              Canada did not recognize dual citizenship between 1947 and 1977. His mother is listed on the Canadian voter rolls and actually voted in the Canadian National Election of 1972. So she had to have given up her US citizenship at that time other wise Canada would have never let her vote. That may why Cruz has had all his families records in Canada sealed. Much like Obama did.

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              1. Interesting info. During the campaign I argued that Cruz is not a natural born citizen, and got so much push-back. Many people don’t care about natural born citizenship or don’t agree with the strict definition of it. But I see that you’re arguing that Cruz is not even an American citizen.

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    1. Now they’re revealing their real plans. Our Constitution is anti-UN agenda. It’s about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which includes owning a home with land around it if we choose. The rest of the world can go down the climate path to h3ll if they choose.

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    1. seems to me increased homeless, fecal studded sidewalks and burned out homes is the GOAL of Pelosi mafia family, which includes her nephew the Gov…

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  5. Donald J. Trump Retweeted

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  6. Woke up with a sore throat. Happens after eating crap proceessed foods for Happy Thanksmas. Meat and eggs for 30 days to get back on track starting Friday. Lets go fat folks. US popultion predicted to be 50% obese come 2030. Ever seen a centenarian that was fat? No. If you are fat, you will die early.

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