Dear KAG: 20191211 Open Thread

Welcome the Deck the Halls open thread. For those NOT following any sort of Liturgical Calendar, you might be done. Well, the rest of us will be doing it this week. How about some inspirational tunes.

Yes, given the solar minimum we are experiencing, a sable under the tree would be nice. Although, I’d like my convertible to be a candy apple red 1961 Corvette with a white swoosh.

But I digress, we need tunes.

My favorite…..

Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.

Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. There are, however, limits to civility, and those limits are strictly observed here. We are all on the same team. No personal threats, baiting, name calling and other behavior your mother and grandmother told you not to do while calling you by your full name is allowed. Otherwise, we’d end up looking like the other side.

There is absolutely no reason for infighting to result in burning down the tree, house up in the branches and all. Yes, it can be rough to temper speech. However, those who would like to slog it out from the comfort of the seat behind your keyboard, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree. Please, take it there.

And now for some house keeping:

There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time, maybe while waiting in line with the kids to see Santa. After all, the line does go all the way to Terre Haute.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike. FG&C asks that you wash your hands and take some vitamin C. Daughn suggests you whip the sugar with the shortning (butter) before adding the flour.

Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative. This Christmas list is from last year, but deserves a second look.


In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed.

From today’s Lectionary, Isaiah 40:25-31.

To whom can you liken me as an equal?
says the Holy One.
Lift up your eyes on high
and see who has created these things:
He leads out their army and numbers them,
calling them all by name.
By his great might and the strength of his power
not one of them is missing!
Why, O Jacob, do you say,
and declare, O Israel,
“My way is hidden from the LORD,
and my right is disregarded by my God”?

Do you not know
or have you not heard?
The LORD is the eternal God,
creator of the ends of the earth.
He does not faint nor grow weary,
and his knowledge is beyond scrutiny.
He gives strength to the fainting;
for the weak he makes vigor abound.
Though young men faint and grow weary,
and youths stagger and fall,
They that hope in the LORD will renew their strength,
they will soar as with eagles’ wings;
They will run and not grow weary,
walk and not grow faint.

And today’s Gospel reflects the piece I memorized for a music jury once:

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

And now, on to the day’s news…..

627 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20191211 Open Thread

    1. Looks like it is time to BOOT the UN out of NYC and the USA.

      America, we pay way too much for the United Nations | Fox News

      Each year the United States gives approximately $8 billion in mandatory payments and voluntary contributions to the United Nations and its affiliated organizations. The biggest portion of this money – about $3 billion this year – goes to the U.N.’s regular and peacekeeping budgets…

      Apr 02, 2019 · “The United States remains the largest donor to the United Nations, contributing more than $10 billion in 2017, roughly one fifth of the body’s collective budget. “ — CFR

      You ALREADY get bunches of money — So FUCK OFF UN!

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    2. FTA
      Under the bedrock U.N. climate treaty, adopted in 1992, rich nations agreed to help developing countries prepare for unavoidable future climate impacts — the twin pillars of “mitigation” and “adaptation”.

      But there was no provision for helping countries and small island states now calling for compensation.

      A new mechanism was established in 2013, but with damage estimates climbing, there is no agreement on where the money might come from or even if it should be paid, although the U.S. is constantly the target of calls for financial reparations because it is rich, successful and a dominant world economic force.

      they’re estimating $300 Billion ANNUALLY–and expect the US to pay the BULK of that…screw that!

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      1. IIRC, RED China is classed as a “developing nation” under their “rules”.

        Yeah, right.

        Developing new and “better” ways to screw over the USA.

        Kick the UN out, destroy the altar of Satan in the basement of the building (yes, there IS one there), exorcise the building and the grounds, and put the building to good use.

        Might be better just to raze it (after the previous steps), and start over. The UN has been Satanic since its beginning under convicted Soviet Spy Alger Hiss and the rest of the Commie Cabal. Time to end it. And also to prosecute and punish the rapists, murderers, child-molesters and traffickers wandering its halls.

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  1. this appears to support Wolf’s theory on energy & globalists “all for me, none for thee” perspective!

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        1. Glad you are diggin… I found him a while back and suggested he is a gold mine. I’m fighting some dementia now, so no need for me to dig anymore, I forget too soon. But he has tons of info on the various inter-relationships of organizations and families. Dig away !

          Another great resource is Dawson Fields
 In fact, he has pinned a collection of his threads to the top of his TL …

          There are a couple more that I have found to be full of info… when I run across them, I will pass along to you. I have noticed your likes in my WP notifications… glad to have you here at the QTree !

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    1. Obama was one slick lying motherfucker. He and his ilk used “Russia” as an excuse to make WE THE PEOPLE pay for AMERICA to attack REPUBLICANS.

      Give that Soviet[Russia]-trained P.O.S. a trial and HANG HIS TREASONOUS ASS.

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            1. And Bubba will be there right next to her, wearing an “I’m With Her” tee shirt; she’ll be wearing (in orange) an “I’m with stupid” tee shirt…

              And on the back of both of them it’ll say, “they sending me to Gitmo, and all I get is this lousy tee shirt”…
              Hmmm. They’ll be getting more; satisfaction (for them) likely won’t be a part of it…

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    1. The Public Servants are TIME’s 2019 CABAL Guardians of the Year

      Times left out a word in the title.

      Now wait for the Autists at the Chans to get to work on that cover…

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    2. Hitler was man of the Year once too so…….HGAF? I don’t 😉

      ….talk about an irrelevant designation, it was meaningless when Time mag was relevant in the MSMs incestuous circle jerk of mutual adoration, now, its literally a parody of itself, all alone in the corner of obscurity.

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      1. “all alone in the corner of obscurity.”

        Perfectly stated…and they deserve every lonely moment. Can you imagine having to admit that you work for TIME magazine?

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    3. Amazing. The traitors at TIME show us a pair of RED DIAPER from MOSCOW who sneak into the system to cry “Russia, Russia” to support leftist takeover of America, and then calls them HEROES and GUARDIANS.

      It’s utterly Orwellian.

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    4. Whittaker Chambers worked for Time Magazine before he denounced his communism. The “media” has been corrupt, working against us for a long time. If you haven’t read his book, “Witness”, I recommend it. It also shows how the state department has not been on our side for a very long time, if ever.

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    5. GUARDIANS?????!!!!!

      WTH did they get that??? Georgia “Guidestones” ?????

      We don’t need no steenking guardians… (especially not the Grauniad)…

      Only Guardians we need are Angels sent by GOD, and of course GOD (who the YSM/MCM, deep state, and DEMONicRATS refuse to acknowledge or obey)…..

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    1. The PDO was discovered BECAUSE of the movement of fish year on year.

      The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO)

      The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) refers to cyclical variations in sea surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean. A summary of the PDO is given in D’Aleo (this volume). It was discovered in the mid-1990s by fisheries scientists studying the relationship between Alaska salmon runs, Pacific Ocean temperatures, and climate. Hare (1996), Zhang et al. (1997), and Mantua et al. (1997) found that cyclical variations in salmon and other fisheries correlated with warm/cool changes in Pacific Ocean temperatures that followed a regular pattern. Each warm PDO phase lasted about 25–30 years then switched to the cool phase and vice versa. The PDO differs from El Nino/La Nina warm/cool oscillations, which persist for only 6–18 months in an east-west belt near the equator…

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      1. I was sort of wondering if any of the Gulf people here were willing to talk about sport fishing moving from the natural reefs to the ones on the old oil rigs. Fish are going to move according to the temperatures of the water, as I understand it, and naturally predators will follow.

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  3. A comment on the “Rockin’ Around the Vintage Christmas Tree”.
    An out of the box pre-wired LED lighted tree doesn’t qualify as vintage IMHO, but it is a nice tree in any case.

    In our house, I am the tree constructor. That means I buy/build and set up the tree where the ‘boss’ tells me to. I flay out the branches, prune where necessary, water if need be. I learned many years ago that hanging ornaments is the boss’s purview (not like Mueller, whose purview was a figurehead. BTW, I wonder how AG Barr feels about his buddies’ role in the crap weasel coup attempt).

    Well, back to my tree saga, the boss tells me I know nothing (as in Jon Snow) about tree decoration and sense of space, color, and size placement to make the perfect tree. Since some time many years ago when we were first married (42 yrs ago), we would work together in decorating the tree, it was a young love kinda thingy, making a house a home, yad, yada, yada, bla,bla,bla, you know the stuff you have to say and do! Well, when the boss starting moving my ornament placements to say the next branch over, I asked “why’d you do that”; my first lesson in questioning the boss; she said who taught you how to decorate, when I said my Mom… let’s just leave it there, I won’t repeat what the boss said. Since then, I haven’t hung an ornament on any of our Christmas trees in 41 years and we are still married…..Great decision even if I have to say so myself. End of story!

    May all your tree decorating endeavors from now until Christmas be as quiet and enjoyable as mine have been the last 41 years…MAGA Christmas to all, and to all another 5 years of the greatest president ever!

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    1. great story!

      in our house, we always decorated the tree Christmas Eve after we ate a lovely turkey dinner. While the kids and I cleaned up the dishes, hubby put the lights on…then while hubby and I had dessert, the kids would put the ornaments on, then hubby put on the tinsel—strand by strand.

      now that the kids are out on their own, we still continue the tradition–decorating Christmas Eve after our dinner, except he totally decorates the tree while I clean up. Then we turn on the tree lights, turn off the other lights and sit eating dessert by the tree.

      Then in January I take down the tree and put away everything and vacuum needles and tinsel for weeks…lol…
      we share the joy and the mess…lol

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    2. Thank you. I’ve been meaning to get back to this all day. (Was hanging out on the hearing thread).

      Well, yours truly is the tree queen in this house. Two other members of the household go get one, Dad decides it comes in on the last decent day of the week (this year it was Sunday, and it’s been sitting in the stand in water ever since given my sniffles and coughing situation). The net comes off, and we let it fall for 24 hours or more.

      Lights first, layered, of course, and only incandescents as LEDs give me a migraine. Next, the ball ornaments. Red, silver, gold, and this orb looking thing that’s silver. They go inside so as to reflect light. THEN we get out the ornaments collected from trips all over the Americas and Europe during the last 25+ years of travel once everyone was out of school. The heavy ones go on first as there are only so many branches that will hold them (Santa on the alligator might not make it on the tree this year), and then fill in with the rest, the last being the brass and silver ones like the snowflakes from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

      One SIL wanted to help one year, and just wanted to indiscriminately put ornaments on the tree. I kicked her out of the process. No, you have to find the perfect hole for each item. That, she just doesn’t get.

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      1. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for now…because there may be more people involved that they are trying to track down…maybe…either that, or they are busy scrubbing their social media presence.

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      2. Here’s betting that each of them has a Mohammed or Ali somewhere in their names (and I once saw a perp named Mohammed Mohamed Mohammed!) (talk about patronymics and inbreeding)…

        I also wonder if they’re “leftovers” from the Pensacola incident – or did they get caught?

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          1. Yep. Except they have a Mo-ham-head Kebap grill (the one with the vertical spit they use to cook Kebap on) 🙂

            (They’re driving out all the Italian and Greek snack bars here with their “Kebap Shops”… probably with a little “persuasion” too… “Nice little pizza shop you got here, Luigi, shame if something happened to it”…


    1. ooops…I was wrong…


      One of the two shooters who fatally shot up a Jersey City Jewish deli in what officials say was a “targeted” attack posted anti-Jewish and anti-police messages to social media before the chaotic attack that left three civilians and a cop dead, law enforcement sources said Wednesday.

      Sources said David Anderson, who committed the deadly Tuesday attack with a woman identified as Francine Graham, was a one-time follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement and made the hateful postings on his social media page.

      Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said Wednesday that the pair of gun-wielding attackers were captured on CCTV footage “slowly” rolling up to the Jersey City Kosher Supermarket in the Greenville neighborhood in a van before they stopped in front, “calmly opened the door with two long rifles” and “began firing from the street” into the store.

      A note with religious writing was recovered by investigators from inside the stolen U-Haul van that the shooters were in, sources said.

      Jersey City officials have not condemned the shooting as a hate crime or anti-Semitic but did say that it was “targeted.”

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      1. Oh, thank you for that…that’s the first time I’m hearing names. Black Hebrew Israelite Movement? Wasn’t it members of this group that were harassing the Covington High School boys before that creepy drummer got involved?

        Either way…this will get swept under the rug pretty quick.

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    1. 06/26/17 Rare-earth rancor: Feds must stop Chinese purchase of US mine

      A U.S. bankruptcy court has decided to sell a California mine, the sole U.S. source of rare earth minerals, to a consortium including Chinese mining company Shenghe Rare Earth Shareholding Co. If the transaction goes ahead, it would turn over the unique domestic producer of these vital minerals, used in many high-tech electronics products, to a Chinese-affiliated company.

      China already accounts for some 90 percent of world production of rare earth minerals and has demonstrated its ability to prioritize its own Chinese customers with export restraints on rare earths imposed in 2009, causing anger and consternation worldwide.

      The $20-million sale of the Mountain Pass, California mine follows the 2015 bankruptcy of Molycorp, a public company that invested over $1 billion trying to build a U.S.-based producer of rare earths. There were two bidders interested in Molycorp’s assets: ERP Strategic Minerals, a U.S.-led consortium led by Tom Clarke, a Virginia-based entrepreneur and coal industry veteran and last week’s winning consortium, which includes JHL Capital Group and QVT Financial as well as Shenghe.

      Clarke told the Wall Street Journal that his ERP group intends to challenge the court’s decision on national security grounds….

      I am sure a President Hitlery would have gleefully sold to China.

      AUGUST 23, 2019

      The owner of the only U.S. rare earths mine is going on a hiring spree as it looks to significantly boost production, part of a strategy to build out American refining capability after China raised tariffs on the minerals amid an escalating trade war…

      The Trump administration has labeled rare earths critical for national defense and ordered the Pentagon to support domestic production.

      “What China has recognized is that this is a strategic industry,” said James Litinsky, co-chairman of MP Materials….

      To resume refining in California, privately-held MP Materials is spending $200 million to restart mothballed equipment at the mine and build a large roasting oven.

      “The tariffs are very painful, but we remain profitable,” Litinsky said.

      After processing, rare earths need to be turned into rare earth magnets, found in precision-guided missiles, smart bombs and military jets. But China controls the rare earths magnet industry, too.

      Litinsky and peers are betting that by bringing rare earths refining back to the United States, it will encourage other investors to build magnets and other related parts in the country as well….

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  4. Virginia Roberts (Epstein victim and witness) is now posting that she is NOT suicidal…and that if anything happens to her, not to let it go.

    I’m surprised that she hadn’t made this post sooner. I hope she remains safe.

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  5. WOW…universities not reporting foreign fudning…over a billion and climbing!
    An Education Department investigation revealed universities failed to report more than a billion dollars in foreign funding, which officials believe is only a sliver of the unreported overseas donations flowing onto campuses.

    Education Secretary Betsy DeVos told the Washington Examiner she had launched a preliminary investigation into six universities but already turned up an alarming $1.3 billion in foreign funding over the past seven years from nations such as China, Russia, and Qatar that the schools hadn’t told the federal government about, despite their legal requirement to do so.

    “It is already a reporting requirement for schools to report all foreign contributions. From my perspective, it’s a simple requirement: Report all foreign money you get.” DeVos said. “We’re going to continue to raise the flag on this, and we think, just given what we’ve seen scratching the surface, there’s a lot there that has gone undetected.”

    DeVos said foreign funding is an administration-wide national security concern.

    “We’re raising this issue and letting schools know that we’re going to be paying attention in ways that hasn’t happened before,” she said.

    In a seven-page letter to the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, the Education Department said the six investigations, still in their early stages, have revealed what acting general counsel Reed Rubinstein called “disturbing facts.” Rubinstein did not name the universities associated with each finding, citing the department’s general policy not to comment on the status or results of current investigations. But the universities under review are Georgetown, Texas A&M, Cornell, Rutgers, the University of Maryland, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    China’s secretive influence on campus figured most prominently.

    “One university received research funding from a Chinese multinational conglomerate to develop new algorithms and advance biometric security techniques for crowd surveillance capabilities,” Rubinstein said.

    China has developed advanced surveillance technology, often with international funding from U.S. companies. The country has drawn attention for its capabilities during recent high-profile incidents such as pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong and surveillance of the country’s Muslim minority population, especially ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang province, where 1 million or more have been sent to reeducation camps.

    The Education Department investigation also revealed five of the six universities had or have contacts with Huawei, a Chinese telecommunications company that the U.S. intelligence community deemed a national security threat, the FCC banned from federal broadband subsidies, and the Justice Department is prosecuting for allegedly evading sanctions, stealing trade secrets, and obstructing justice.

    The investigation also showed one university had multiple contracts with the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s Central Committee, and one university also received gifts from a foundation “suspected of acting as a propaganda and influence front” for the Chinese government. Another promotes a Thousand Talents Program, which the FBI deems a Chinese form of “nontraditional espionage,” through a Chinese company with close ties to China’s government.

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    1. Just look for “International Relations” as an offered major, or school, and that should help. U$C was HUUUGGGEEE in that regard. It was said there was graffiti on the elevators in Doheny Library in 110 languages (probably complaining about how cramped the floors and aisles of the “stacks” were, or variants of the old “here I sit” trope. And this was back in the early 1970s. Goodness knows what it’s like now. But back then, there were all flavors of Arabs, Moslems, Persians, and Jews (we had Hebrew Union College, Hillel House, and other groups, large community (being LA no surprise)). At least they seemed to get along. The Bloods and the Crips were MUCH bigger problems… I hear MS-13 has just about driven them out…

      All of the “soft sciences” and engineering are ripe for this… exchange programs are also part of it. An extended family member, sad to say, was part of the swampy bits of IR and “student outreach” in DC for a few years. FLAMING liberal….grrr. Might just get him a MAGA hat for Christmas…

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  6. taxpayers on the hook for another Obama screw up?

    The Supreme Court seemed to agree Tuesday with arguments that Congress must pay out some $12 billion to health insurance companies as part of a program meant to mitigate risks caused by the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

    The companies hope to collect those funds pursuant to a provision of the ACA that says the government “shall pay” insurers who incurred losses on the Obamacare exchanges. Despite that promise, Congress has not appropriated funds to compensate insurers.

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      1. i don’t think so…it’s connected to Obamacare so as long as that’s continuing, the insurance companies can claim restitution for losses…and OCARE was set up so they incur losses and the gov’t has to shell out the difference.

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  7. Hmmm…so members of the same anti-semitic group that confronted the Covington kids were responsible for attackinged a kosher market in Jersey City.

    Tell me again how Donald Trump hates Jews?

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      1. Wonder if they celebrate Kwanzaa… fake holiday, fake religion, only the fakirs are “real”…

        They’re as bad as the DEMONicRATS. Projecting, in a sense, with their name. They have nothing (good) to do with either Judaism or Israel.

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  8. still in the twitter weeds

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        Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy (Unfortunately now scrubbed from the internet)

        Hillary: The Clintons’ Chinese Bagmen Are Baa-aack

        Chinagate: The FBI has arrested one of the top Beijing-tied bagmen who funneled funny money to the Clinton administration. He was busted in New York with a suitcase full of cash. Some Chinese money-laundering for Hillary? Stay tuned.

        The defendant is a major Clinton fundraiser named Ng Lap Seng, aka “Mr. Wu.” He and Clinton pal Charlie Trie visited the White House several times in the 1990s, snapping photos with both Bill and Hillary.

        Federal investigators are charging him with lying to agents about why he brought more than $4.5 million into the U.S. over the last two years, including a suitcase full of $400,000 in cash to New York….

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  10. And a rally!! Anyone tired of winning yet??

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        1. Such crystal clear water is so fascinating…I can watch for hours.
          We hiked the Milford Trail in the southern tip of New Zealand. The water is so clear and so pure, it is safe to drink, not contaminated by animals since there are very few there.


  11. Horowitz is a Company man – beholden to his Democrat masters. I’m not watching that garbage he’s handing out in the Senate, but caught this by TrumpWarRoom.

    Horowitz outright lies.

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    1. Misleading and it’s the media’s fault.
      Two separate incidents.
      1. Opening the investigation – very low threshold to open an counter intel investigation. Bill Preistep was the one who OPENED. He had no testimonial or evidentiary bias which could be proven.
      2. Conduct from the actual process of the investigation was either gross incompetence or malicious. Yet. Horowitz cannot determine which. Answers/explanations were unsatisfactory.
      Horowitz referred the ENTIRE REPORT to DOJ/FBI for examination of criminal referral from the line agents involved —- all the way to the top of leadership.

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      1. Thanks, Daughn. I was really bothered by Horowitz muddying in the water – similar to what Mueller did. Didn’t know he had referred the entire report to DOJ/FBI – that’s Barr’s bailiwick. I believe Barr is going to get the job done. Interesting that Horowitz had no access to anything that Durham’s been doing. Also interesting that Durham didn’t get the report until November. Thank goodness, Durham been busy long before that.

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  12. Here’s something to think about. (or NOT, as you like)

    Full moon tomorrow, the last one of the year… on 12/12 at 12:12 a.m. ET (That’s tonight)

    Kew drop #1543

    Q Poem on D’s (Dark to Light)

    18 Jun 2018 – 2:43:38 AM

    Morning sun brings heat.
    Full moon coming.
    Undiscovered stars learned.
    Missions forward.

    Line after “Morning Sun brings heat’

    “Full moon coming”

    From the Farmer’s Almanac:

    ” The next full moon will occur on December 12th at 12:12 AM ET, and is known as the Cold Moon or Long Nights Moon. This full moon is distinctive for its high trajectory across the sky, causing it to sit above the horizon for a longer period of time.”

    December is 12th month… so we have: 12/12 at 12:12 am ET … that’s 4 12’s. 4×12 = 48 and 4+8 = 12

    I don’t know if KEW is pointing to anything, but I’m marking my calendar for 12/12 ! Tonight ……………

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  13. Incarcerated_ET has a THREAD – click a tweet

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  14. am I in the Twilight Zone? GIVE THE FBI MY FINGERPRINTS????

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation is teaming up with the “highly efficient” post office to make sure they’ve got your fingerprints. Even though it wasn’t that long ago that people were warned of sharing their DNA with ancestry sites, it seems they might have reason to be concerned now about the FBI’s desire to snag your fingerprints too.

    More of the Unrelenting Data Collection Toward Totalitarian Rule

    Now, the government has announced a new program in which they hope people will voluntarily give their fingerprints. As the public has become more aware of such privacy concerns, it seems strange that on Friday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced a new partnership with the United States Postal Service where customers can voluntarily provide them with their fingerprints while you’re at the post office.

    Through a partnership between the #FBI and the @USPS, you can now submit your fingerprints electronically for an identity history summary check (IdHSC) while you buy stamps or mail packages. Learn more about IdHSC and find participating post offices at

    — FBI (@FBI) December 6, 2019

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    1. According to a USPS employee website, the Postal Service began actively “partnering” with the FBI in this “program” SINCE JANUARY 2019.

      According to the FBI’s website, there are now 28 POST OFFICES scattered through the following states:
      New Jersey
      that are “offering” the fingerprint program. SINCE MAY 2019. The FBI is “monitoring” the “program” and will decide whether or not TO EXPAND THE “PROGRAM.”

      Hey, ain’t the FBI still under the direction of CHRISTOPHER WRAY? That SWAMP CREATURE?

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        1. If your car has been broken into, and the police need a set to eliminate yours from the set they pulled off the car, you’ll go down to the station and get your fingers blackened. I’ve done it more than once, but the police here don’t keep elimination prints.

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            1. Next thing you know, they’ll say “just spit in the bottle, and we’ll give you a free DNA analysis”…

              They could one-way-encrypt (or hash) the results… but who knows if they will…

              Looks like they’re following China’s (and the UK’s) lead. “Pre-emptive criminal analysis to find people likely to commit a crime.”

              Hmmm. Works real good on those troublesome “Asians” doesn’t it, UK…

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            1. Yep, that too.

              IMHO having to get a permit is unconstitutional, violating the US 2nd Amendment. Colorado (as well as many other Western states) has an RKBA-acknowledgement in its constitution that specifically EXCLUDES concealed carry, however. At the time these were ratified, open carry was common, and anyone who wanted to conceal his armed state was thought to be up to something.

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            2. Lots of government agencies want finger prints.

              In my world finger printed for…
              – CCW
              – Security clearances in military and as GS
              – Pointer finger to get through Immigration entering US after travel abroad
              – Both pointer fingers for retired military ID card.

              Navy took our DNA for ID purposes IF something bad happened to us.

              Navy made full dental X-Rays for ID purposes IF something bad happened to us.

              ^^^ TENS of millions of folks swept up in this “unofficial” registration and tracking scheme by the Feds. YEA, I have a tin foil hat.

              IMO, FIB and Postal Service joint venture is an attempt to sweep of those not snared by finger print scams listed above. NOTHING innocent about FIB and Postal Service venture.

              Bonus for Postal service, as they ALWAYS operate in the red, FIB probably transferring millions of dollars to help pay for the finger printing scheme.
              IMAGINE, how many finger prints are stolen by bad guys through cell phones, laptops which are accessed by finger prints, by folks hacking into those devices.

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      1. My “Suspicious Dog Meter” is running at 20 (on a scale of 1 – 10) on this scheme.
        Backdoor effort (which will be marketed as “keeping us safe” / “weeding out illegal immigrants”, etc.) to eventually FORCE every American to “give up” either a DNA sample or a set of fingerprints, to be put into a giant database CONTROLLED BY THE FBI.
        Right now, the Post Office is just “offering” the FBI fingerprint program for what appears to be “voluntary” fingerprinting by people who think it’s OK / they may need a fingerprint file copy at some point, etc.
        There’s a big difference between MANDATORY fingerprinting to get a CCW, etc., as opposed to “if you refuse to be fingerprinted, you don’t get your Social Security check”, which is the eventual goal of this FBI trap.
        And what’s to stop the FBI, after (GOD FORBID) successfully forcing this on ALL of us, from creating a “mandate” for MANDATORY facial / eye recognition for every transaction, no matter of what type?
        At that point, the United States will be “thisclose” to becoming another jackboot Communist totalitarian country.

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        1. …from creating a “mandate” for MANDATORY facial / eye recognition for every transaction, no matter of what type?

          ^^^ Went through all the posts and was about to post something along those lines. ^^^

          AND, all of those license plate readers across the country. Nothing innocent about them either.


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    1. Probably saw their publication figures (dropping precipitously) and figured get while the getting is good… never let a good crisis go to waste…

      OTOH, her mother is a Satanist… there’s the connection to the “roots” of the green movement…

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      1. I am going to build a raised bed outside and start growing my own kale and romaine. Longer growing period here in north Florida.


          1. Lol oh I live in country and every creature for miles moves thru my little 5 acres at night. 9 deer bed down in woods behind my house. I will have to fence in raised bed for sure.


    1. Dershowitz was visibly choked up, “Trump name will be remembered throughout history’, most significant moment in 65 of his 81 years for stopping hatred.
      Other Jewish gentlemen could barely speak, tears in is eyes, deeply humbled/honored.
      Jeffers, referring to Trump “on the right side of God”.
      It was a big day.
      Exec order against fighting anti-semitism, defines Judaism as a nationality.
      Can’t discriminate against a country.
      Annihilates the BDS movement on college campuses, especially if the want federal dollars.

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