Dear KMAG: 20191208 Open Topic

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2nd Sunday of Advent ~ God’s Peace

All around us, in these days, the lack of peace is everywhere; violence, hatred, fear, anxiety, worry and doubt abound: within ourselves and our families, between ethnic groups and religions, and between countries . . . everywhere. Our finances and employment situations rise and fall, the media uses our fears in the news to boost ratings, the entertainment world capitalizes on lack of peace to sell their movies and TV dramas, and political groups either claim or cause unrest to further their agendas.

During the Advent season, we look to the past to recognize and celebrate the effects of Christ’s 1st coming, and we look to the future in anticipation and a peaceful assurance of what Christ’s 2nd coming will bring.

Looking to the past, when Jesus died on the cross at Calvary, He gave us the means to reconcile our inherent sin nature and our sins with the holiness of God, the Father. At the Last Supper, Jesus said ” Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.” Christ’s peace is real for all who believe and trust in Him.

And when we rely on God, His peace is real also ” Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” And “You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is kept on You, because he trusts in You.”

God is in control. Nothing happens that is outside of His will. When we turn to Him in our lives, we gain the greatest remedy for fear, anxiety, worry and doubt. God offers us something the world cannot give us . . . His peace, which surpasses all understanding, and which will fill our minds and hearts.

Peace from God is a state of calmness or quietness of spirit that goes beyond the happenings in our lives. God is the God of peace, Jesus is the Prince of Peace, peace is one of the fruits of the Spirit, and God blesses us with peace.

Looking to the future, when Jesus comes again, we look forward to the fullness of God’s peace, His shalom . . . an unprecedented level of peace that will encompass all life in the world.

“Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

They shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.

“The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.

This fullness of the shalom of God is more than inner peace or peace within the family, more than the absence of hostilities between ethnic groups, religions and nations. Its meaning encompasses completeness, soundness, welfare, success and peace. It’s even more than the reconciliation between us and God. The fullness of the shalom of God results in a universe governed by God in which all relationships are fully loving and just . . . all in a right relationship with God, and it touches every facet in life.


As we await the fullness of God’s shalom, we can trust God for our welfare. Jesus encouraged His disciples, “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world”.

Colossians 3:15
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace.

James 3:18
Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.

Romans 12:18
If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Far away in the depths of my spirit tonight
Rolls a melody sweeter than psalm;
In celestial-like strains it unceasingly falls
O’er my soul like an infinite calm.
Peace, peace, wonderful peace,
Coming down from the Father above!
Sweep over my spirit forever, I pray
In fathomless billows of love!
~ ‘Wonderful Peace’ Don Moen

As we prepare to celebrate the birth of Jesus, may we enjoy the peace we have with God through Christ. And may we be given a foretaste of the peace on earth that is yet to come.



301 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20191208 Open Topic

      1. Oh, the White Hats knew exactly what they were doing. They knew the Dems would have to defend on Ukraine, and in doing so, they would cook their own goose.

        The Chanel Rion / Rudy Giuliani explanations on OAN are DEVASTATING. MAGA needs to tweet clips of this stuff HUGELY.

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        1. Sundance is absolutely right!

          Great “Eeyore” comment (agreeing with Sundance) in response:


          JimWVa says:
          December 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm

          Watch this space! Sundance has outlined the true purpose of the impeachment hoax. It’s a UniParty challenge to President Donald J. Trump. President Trump works harder than them all.


          I have to agree that this is very dangerous crap.

          It’s clear WHY our VSG had to have a great prosecutor like Rudy go after this stuff, because the SYSTEM would not. Our DOJ and FBI are kind of a joke on this. They basically have to allow all kinds of graft because “everybody does it”.

          Well, no more. No more of this shit.

          I think Graham should be replaced, if he’s not up to the task.

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          1. Playing catch up again today.

            Off the cuff, Ms Lindsey needs to be exposed or otherwise given an “offer he can’t refuse” to vacate Judiciary. Ms Lindsey, we have known for months is either not up to the task or knows his corruption is about to be exposed.

            Grassley, or an honest Senator take over for Ms Lindsey.

            IMO, it is President Trump’s call how far and what detail Senate works the impeachment farce. President Trump AND precious few folks know the true depth of the corruption that has targeted President Trump AND IS CRIPPLING our Judicial system.

            Guessing here, President Trump AND a few key folks have the leverage to manage Ms Lindsey, AND IF necessary, McConnell.

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          2. I think Graham is protecting himself and the system. He was to involved with No Name.
            If McConnell has any (…) he would replace Graham with an ethical person.

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        2. From OT:

          ristvan says:
          December 8, 2019 at 5:26 pm
          The squeezed out Ukraine toothpaste CANNOT be put back in the secret tube.
          PDJT said, ‘we caught em all.” Another swamp promise kept.
          All that remains is the reveal and denouement. That starts but will not end with IG FISA abuse report and criminal referrals tomorrow.

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      1. How I would love to see Isikoff go down with this gaggle of criminals. As big of a joke as yahoo is a lot of lazy numbskulls actually get their news from that disgusting website. It’s 24/7 TDS.

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  1. Some story here.


    Nader, Khawaja, Clintons, Pope Francis, and Elite Converge in UAE & Africa

    Welcome to the jungle of elites, criminals, and Pope Francis who all seem to have their eyes set on South Africa, while Russia and China run naval drills off the coast. It’s an interesting intersection of events and individuals. What’s more interesting is the timetable of recently indicted George Nader and Andy Khawaja, along with the Clintons and Pope Francis, that leads to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), who also have a big interest in South Africa.

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    1. Same in the UK and in France.

      Several years ago, one of the local primary schools where I live had a publicity drive from Qatar. It was on the last day of term before summer holidays.

      The kids received sport-oriented (see below) Qatar tee shirts and gift bags. This was no doubt not an isolated visit.

      Can’t find much about Qatar PR and the UK online, although there is this from 2017:

      ‘A Belgian parliamen­tarian, speaking at a roundtable forum at the European Com­mission office in Ma­drid, accused Qatar of allocat­ing millions of dollars to Muslim Brotherhood activities in Europe.

      ‘Citing “European financial and security reports,” Koen Metsu, a member of the Belgian parlia­ment and president of the Bel­gian Temporary Parliamentary Committee for the Fight Against Terrorism, asserted that Qatar has for a decade financially sup­ported the Muslim Brotherhood in France, the United Kingdom, Italy and Denmark, with more than $175 million. Qatar was said to have also provided “ideologi­cal support.”’

      As for France, there are two articles. One is from 2017 about Paris Saint-Germain football (soccer) club and alleges Qatar wants to ‘influence diplomacy through sports’:

      The second is from 2018:

      ‘… the French Ministry for the Economy and Finance requested le Tracfin (acronym for Intelligence Processing and Action Against Illegal Financial Circuits) to reinvestigate criminal charges connected with Qatar’s investment in France. Le Tracfin is the ministry’s agency mandated with fighting money laundering and terrorism financing.’


    1. Watching for faux “breaking news” in No Nads committee tomorrow.

      Thousands of docs dropped late Saturday. Me thinks, some of those docs will be cut / paste or otherwise manipulated to raise hell in the short term. BUT, debunked 24-48 hours later.

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  2. Good Evening Patriots
    As We await the “incoming” IG report tomorrow & *Other” Impeachment Effort’s
    Talking too a few folks “boots on the ground” efforst here..
    Impeachment is a loosing proposition..

    Several “long-Term” Democrat’s,, are,, Simply, just Simply,, Disgusted..
    I knoe several “Black-Familes”..
    I take oysters to , (they were once MY neighbors) , Hard core Dems..
    (Voting for the gimmies)..
    They ALL, (as in the whole family), have gotten Jobs now, thanks to the Trump economy..
    They are for Trump! Voting for Him in the up-coming Election(s)..
    They are quite disgusted and “woke” to the Fake News Media..
    That’s all I can relay ATM on that subject..
    DAD is still “hanging on”.. I don’t know WHY…
    As I’m about to take on My shift this evening..
    (On going Joke is He is waiting for Heaven to get “re-stocked” with Beer)..
    I have Him “blinking” His eyes at Me to TRY to get across what-ever He wishes..
    One blink yes, two blinks “No”..
    This is getting VERY DIFFICULT
    My fishing Buddy, My “DAD” & FIL, laying there a “shell” of a former Proud MAN…
    Look I gotta go, I’ll keep ya’ll updated.. 😦
    Love David & Angie..

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  3. Donald J. Trump Retweeted

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  4. Donald J. Trump Retweeted

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  5. Donald J. Trump Retweeted

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  6. Donald J. Trump Retweeted

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  7. Moar!

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  8. He’s still retweeting – Whew….

    That is all – for now

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    1. Are journalists concerned…No. They are solidly the propaganda arm of the DemCom party. They say what they’re told and are so far down the rabbit hole that they believe their own advance prepared statements. Their job is to lie, obscure, foment faux outrage and try to damage PTrump

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      1. Uh, me thinks Ms Lindsey is NOT conflicted. Ms Lindsey has intentionally done nothing in the Judiciary to help expose D-Rat corruption, State, DOJ, FIB…corruption.

        AND now, Ms Lindsey states he’ll kill Impeachment AFTER D-Rats testify, presenting the D-Rat case.

        ^^^ How f’d up is that. D-Rats get the stage. Ms Lindsey buries it…giving the impression D-Rats spoke the truth.

        HELL NO. Allow President Trump to determine when and how impeachment flow in the Senate. President Trump is the main aggrieved party. Americans and America ARE the larger target.

        FFFFFFF…. Ms Lindsey. She is the worst of the Uniparty, as was McStain…parading as a Republican, but a traitor to America. F’m!

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        1. HELL NO is right!! POTUS is entitled to confront his accusers, mount a defense, and call his own witnesses. If Miss Lindsey calls an early vote, he’ll be denying POTUS his rights, same as the Dems have done. And that also leaves him under a cloud of suspicion in which Dems and media will continue to bludgeon him with. HELL NO!!! We want a full on trial totally exonerating POTUS and demolishing the Dems. Nothing less than that will do.

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      2. Now we know why he wants this all to go away and deny POTUS due process in the Senate and dismiss the impeachment in his committee. Graham’s skeletons are in Syria and Ukraine.
        He cannot call a Congressmen or the whistle blower because that would implicate him. Another traitor to POTUS and the American people.

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    1. We just need to get on Gab. This whole Twitter thing is RIDICULOUS.

      Read Twitter’s new rules, effective Jan 1, 2020.

      TWITTER ENSHRINES separate rules for WHITE PEOPLE.
      TWITTER ENSHRINES separate rules for MEN.
      TWITTER ENSHRINES separate rules for CHRISTIANS.

      Twitter’s leaders are not our friends. LEAVE.

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          1. Yes. Very much like that.

            There is some very weird **** going on here. It’s like “Clash of the Titans” – IG report vs. Impeachment. BOTH of them involve potential betrayals of different kinds.

            Buckle up. Could be very interesting.

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  11. Dr. Quigley has a THREAD –

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    1. He didn’t even publish the whole thing. Others had published it. He just linked to it in order to inform that it was out there. Twitter has been playing a lot of obvious games with Conservative accounts these last few days, many believe they’ve been gearing up to silence voices for the IG report.

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    1. Way back in 2010~~~ From Salon of all places..sounds like the perfect guy to explain it all as the patriotic thing to do..the commie way

      Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama’s closest confidants. Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama’s head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for “overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs.” In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-“independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens’ faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists. The paper’s abstract can be read, and the full paper downloaded, here.

      Sunstein advocates that the Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.” He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called “independent” credible voices to bolster the Government’s messaging (on the ground that those who don’t believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government). This program would target those advocating false “conspiracy theories,” which they define to mean: “an attempt to explain an event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role.” Sunstein’s 2008 paper was flagged by this blogger, and then amplified in an excellent report by Raw Story’s Daniel Tencer.

      There’s no evidence that the Obama administration has actually implemented a program exactly of the type advocated by Sunstein, though in light of this paper and the fact that Sunstein’s position would include exactly such policies, that question certainly ought to be asked. Regardless, Sunstein’s closeness to the President, as well as the highly influential position he occupies, merits an examination of the mentality behind what he wrote. This isn’t an instance where some government official wrote a bizarre paper in college 30 years ago about matters unrelated to his official powers; this was written 18 months ago, at a time when the ascendancy of Sunstein’s close friend to the Presidency looked likely, in exactly the area he now oversees. Additionally, the government-controlled messaging that Sunstein desires has been a prominent feature of U.S. Government actions over the last decade, including in some recently revealed practices of the current administration, and the mindset in which it is grounded explains a great deal about our political class. All of that makes Sunstein’s paper worth examining in greater detail.

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    2. He is also married to Samantha Powers. Yes, the UN Diplomat who doesn’t know how her ID was used to request over 200 unmaskings. 🙄🤥🤥

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      1. This part from his paper….. He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called “independent” credible voices to bolster the Government’s messaging (on the ground that those who don’t believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government). This program would target those advocating false “conspiracy theories,”

        That sounds like the Soros wallet and it also makes me suspicious cat about Q haters who have considerable influence

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        1. Q haters? This is giving flesh to the phantom we already knows exists and could easily account for a large % of the trolls on most news oriented sites on the internet. In some way, form or fashion this has likely been implemented officially or not. And yeah, Soros et al.


  12. Okay folks…..
    Pretty please, get some sleep tonight.
    Tomorrow will be a wild one.
    In addition to our wonderful Daily thread, UTree, and FLEP’s good news posts..
    We will have a post up for the House Judiciary “evidence hearing”
    AND another post up for the OIG report.

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        1. OH YEA!!!!

          9th IG Report. AND, No Nads shit show.

          10th Hershey, PA.

          11th Horowitz Testify.

          18th Battle Creek, MI

          Indictments & arrests can’t come too soon.

          MOAR winning;-)

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        2. Yes ma’am, POTUS gonna be lit 🔥 talking about the report. I can’t wait. 🦋🦋🦋🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🦋🦋🦋

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  13. Barney discusses why the weather is changing…its the A bomb! ha
    Most of the clip is another skit but thought it was funny to hear yet another weather theory

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    1. Interesting interview – talks politics, Reagan, much else. Enjoyable.

      He Really wanted Reagan to be POTUS but didn’t live to see it happen in ’80. Liked hearing him talk about the Fake News (obviously, he did not use that term) – pointed out how Conkite et al were pushing a narrative based on who they favored in the primaries.

      He wanted Reagan for change, for finances, wanted to get out of bureaucracy gov., wanted the party and the fed gov to clean out.

      Listening to him now I KNOW he would have Loved President Trump’s platform and presidency.

      He comes right back to Donahue and defended himself as a liberal explaining that a liberal is supposed to listen and think about all different points of view and he does that while others don’t want to listen and call themselves “liberal”. He could be talking about right now…just think about how much worse it has gotten. the ’80s were a slow down but Bush clan and deep state were deeply involved. President Reagan didn’t really go after the deep state/fed gov as president like he did as gov. He wanted to focus on foreign policy and that is ok. But it seems like President Trump is doing both.

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      1. Said he is not a fan of porn – “sex is not a spectator sport”. Classic

        Said favorite book…”Well, it has H-O-L-Y on it”

        About the 32: mark a lady discusses how his movie, The Alamo, was educational to children who aren’t learning their actual history in school. This was 1976 and the children were Already not being taught actul history. Interesting to hear how “social studies” was being enforced v. true history. Unexpected little tidbit that was eye opening.

        So much that was going on then as just kept happening and much worse now.

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        1. Mike Douglas, Merv Griffen, and then this jerk Donahue were the ones that were always slowly pushing the socialist envelope. Also John Wayne was right when he said he thought he was a liberal. Socialists hijacked that term even before then. Once upon a time capitalism was a liberal idea.


    1. Wonders if the earthquake guy (his name eludes me, looks: dutchsinse) has a trace for this like he does for most seismic events. Seems his last vid was Dec 2nd. Nothing current. It’s billed as an active site, thus the tours in the area, but it seems to have caught everyone off guard.

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        1. It’s going to be a very interesting day! I’m wondering how long it will take after the report comes out for us to understand its important points and their implications.

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