Dear KMAG: 20191110 Open Topic

This ACTION NOVEMBER [1110] SUNDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).

U.S. President Donald Trump prays during the National Prayer Breakfast event in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 2, 2017. Photo courtesy of Retuers/Carlos Barria

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

However, we have a new policy. Starting NOW. Keep it SOMEWHAT civil.

We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation. NOT HERE.

This board will remain a REFUGE for those who tire of both the Scylla of Socialist Fake Civility and the Charybdis of Drain-Circling Civility of the Censored, and thus seek PLACID WATERS.

Well, maybe not THAT placid.

Tell me if you see any giant alligators, or even red squirrels chewing things, and we’ll airlift them lovingly to the Wild West saloon next door.

Back to the SCRIPT.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.






Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed


Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Now – some bad news. T3 is going to be giving up the SUNDAY OPEN THREADS to devote more time to other commitments. I think it’s worth providing a quote so everybody is aware of what is going on.


November 8, 2019 at 11:35

In reply to above discussion about civility and uncivility…

In her usual succinct manner, DP has summed up an observed behavior pattern.

And the big issue, IMO, was a combination of personal attacks, ridicule of belief systems, and baiting participants.

After thinking it over, I highly doubt that this behavior will change on this site based on the m.o. as observed up to this point. An enlightening self-description came when he described what he considered fun for the trick or treat guests to their home. A sign on the tent he sat in said, “don’t look” and when they violate the injunction, the consequence dealt out is a full blast of cold water to soak the offender. Asymmetrical attacks that apparently soothe the person’s missing sense of feeling powerful in their life. Adults shouldn’t need to assault others, especially children, to meet some need in their world. Especially when the payload carries not just intensity but apparent malice as well.

In regards to needing to step down for now…

I do appreciate having a good enemy from time to time to strengthen me and develop a greater love for the One who died for me when I was still His enemy as well. And therefore I’ve been doing a lot of processing and listening since yesterday’s new developments.

I came up with strategies for how I would fully lean into remaining engaged. And then I finally just asked the question, “What am I to do?” and the answer was very clear, “Let it go.” This has probably been the answer since about July, but as usual I’ve been fighting my inner knowing that I need to step away from a current commitment to engage with other new commitments.

The timing of this is going to cause some people to assume I’m unhappy with the site or Wolf or others. Not true and I don’t really want to have a long discussion about it. Some people are just going to get it wrong and nothing I say will likely help.

I love this site and I love how it have challenged me, stretched me, made me a better person. But I must follow my heart and step away from the commitment to post the Sunday open, perhaps remaining active in comments when I have the time or fading away if that is what is needed for the other work I’m engaged with now.

You have my respect, my appreciation, and my affection, all.

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I have to respect this, and was not completely in the dark that this was coming. However, T3 is still an Author here, and is welcome to post any time, in addition to commenting at any time.

As things stand, the Sunday posts will fall to me – OR ANOTHER VOLUNTEER. If there are any volunteers to take over the Sunday daily, please let me know when you are READY.

I would like to maintain the traditions set by T3, of the Sunday Daily actually being a SUNDAY WEEKLY, in terms of spiritual tone and purpose. One need not be as good at this as T3 has been – just BETTER THAN ME.

That’s actually QUITE EASY! *wink*

So, I’d like to end this by THANKING T3 and offering CONGRATULATIONS and BEST WISHES. Take your rest, T3 – it was well earned.

Defaulting to my devotional for today, Psalm 86, a prayer of strength for ALL of us!

Psalm 86 New International Version (NIV)

Psalm 86

A prayer of David.

Hear me, Lord, and answer me,
    for I am poor and needy.
Guard my life, for I am faithful to you;
    save your servant who trusts in you.
You are my God; have mercy on me, Lord,
    for I call to you all day long.
Bring joy to your servant, Lord,
    for I put my trust in you.

You, Lord, are forgiving and good,
    abounding in love to all who call to you.
Hear my prayer, Lord;
    listen to my cry for mercy.
When I am in distress, I call to you,
    because you answer me.

Among the gods there is none like you, Lord;
    no deeds can compare with yours.
All the nations you have made
    will come and worship before you, Lord;
    they will bring glory to your name.
10 For you are great and do marvelous deeds;
    you alone are God.

11 Teach me your way, Lord,
    that I may rely on your faithfulness;
give me an undivided heart,
    that I may fear your name.
12 I will praise you, Lord my God, with all my heart;
    I will glorify your name forever.
13 For great is your love toward me;
    you have delivered me from the depths,
    from the realm of the dead.

14 Arrogant foes are attacking me, O God;
    ruthless people are trying to kill me—
    they have no regard for you.
15 But you, Lord, are a compassionate and gracious God,
    slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness.
16 Turn to me and have mercy on me;
    show your strength in behalf of your servant;
save me, because I serve you
    just as my mother did.
17 Give me a sign of your goodness,
    that my enemies may see it and be put to shame,
    for you, Lord, have helped me and comforted me.


U.S. President Donald Trump gestures to reporters as he departs on travel to Kansas City, Missouri from the White House in Washington, U.S., December 7, 2018. REUTERS/Jim Young

554 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20191110 Open Topic

    1. I don’t know, I didn’t think it was that bad. She got some strong cheers at the end.

      I’ve seen KG basically “coming up short” before (she ain’t the VSG, that’s for sure), and they still keep her in the speaker mix.

      Overall, I think this is a GOOD conflict, and she handled her side well. But I’m glad they’re getting pushed.

      We need the BETTER HALF of what EACH of the two sides are pushing.

      The “Boomer” half is pushing some good things like alliance, political realism, stealing black crypto-conservatives hands over fist, etc., but some bad shit like falling back on immigration, falling back to establishmentarianism, etc. But notice where immigration numbers are IN FACT right now.

      Hmmmmmmmm. Wonder why that is……

      The “Gen X Pepe” half is pushing some good things like booting communist ADL as a moral reference, getting real on immigration, getting real on religious liberty, getting real on freedom of speech, etc., but some bad shit like dragging in hard-core deniers, etc. But notice how much WINNING is on these is happening IN FACT right now.

      Hmmmmmmmm. Wonder why that is…..

      VSG knows what he’s doing is my thought.

      What’s going to emerge? IMO the GOOD SIDES of BOTH are going to WIN. And I think people like US are going to help that happen. WE help separate the wheat from the chaff on both sides.

      Now I will say this. This is important! VERY IMPORTANT.


      My dear wife – who was a PRIME CROSSOVER TRUMP VOTER in 2016 – has warned me that IN HER OPINION, Trump needs to NOT LOOK OVERLY BIASED TOWARD ISRAEL in order to WIN in 2020. She is absolutely convinced that if he looks biased and controlled by Israel, or if it looks like HE is controlling Israel, then 2020 is at risk.

      I don’t agree with her. I think this is silly. But she is so concerned about it, she MADE ME SAY SOMETHING ONLINE.

      Now here is the deal. I had to actually explain the “Embassy to Jerusalem” thing to my wife. She must have gotten the impression from the FAKE NEWS that *WE* (America) were responsible for moving the Israeli capital. Yes – I know it sounds crazy. That is how messed up the Fake News messaging has been, that it’s OUR FAULT – as in TRUMP’S FAULT – that the embassy IS in Jerusalem. My wife apparently misinterpreted the Fake News LIE that “moving the capital is America’s fault” to be something like “America forced Israel to move it’s capital”. So whether WE control Israel, or Israel controls America, it’s BAD from her viewpoint.

      I had to explain that ISRAEL WANTED TO MOVE THE CAPITAL, and that we were simply moving our embassy to where it made sense – THE CAPITAL THAT ISRAEL WANTS – and explained THAT part, too. She was happy with that explanation, but still insisted on her point about 2020. She thinks people don’t understand.

      So the bottom line – fake news has brainwashed her so backwards on Israel topics, that it’s all sounding like TRUMP’S FAULT to her.

      Somebody is going to have to figure out what is going on here. Maybe there just needs to be CLARITY about Trump and Israel. I will keep asking her what she means, but she REALLY, REALLY thinks this is some kind of risk.

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      1. I pretty much gave up trying to understand anything about Israel, because it appears to be a pointless exercise in rabbit hole land.

        If there is more contradictory information and disinformation about any other country in the world, I don’t know what country that would be.

        My guess is that the people of Israel are mostly great, like the people of most civilized nations.

        As for the capital, I thought Jerusalem had always been the capital, or at least for a long time, but the rest of the world simply refused to recognize it, so Israel had to play along, and pretend like the capital was Tel Aviv.

        So I checked the unmatched wisdom of wiki:

        The Jerusalem Law states that “Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel” and the city serves as the seat of the government, home to the President’s residence, government offices, supreme court, and parliament.

        United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 (20 August 1980; 14–0, U.S. abstaining) declared the Jerusalem Law “null and void” and called on member states to withdraw their diplomatic missions from Jerusalem (see Kellerman 1993, p. 140).

        So the U.N. overruled the decision of a Sovereign nation to recognize its own capital city… and all the other putzes went along with the U.N.

        So it would appear that all Trump did was finally recognize that Jerusalem is obviously the capital of Israel, and then relocated our embassy to the capital city, where the embassy should be.

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        1. I have no doubt they need us as an ally, and I’m glad to have allies.

          But is Israel really surrounded by islamic nations that hate them?

          Seems like Jordan and Egypt get along fine with Israel.

          Thomas Wictor doesn’t think the islamic middle east is unified against Israel. For one example, he thinks Saudi Arabia is Israel’s best friend, and that Saudi Arabia gave Israel $5 trillion dollars to develop next generation warfare technology that even we don’t have, but Israel and Saudi Arabia have.

          Of course, Thomas never (and I mean never) supports any of his assertions, about anything. His approach is to be a swami, a crystal ball seer who pronounces wisdom and knowledge from a mystery machine behind a curtain which is never revealed.

          Which, while entertaining and enjoyable, is equal parts frustrating and often insulting.

          And nobody ever calls him out for it.

          Look at practically any Wictor thread, and just start asking basic questions, like “How do you know this?”, “What is your source for this astounding information?”, etc.

          Nobody ever does. Which makes Wictor seem like a psy-op.

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      2. “The “Boomer” half is pushing some good things like alliance, political realism,”


        What is ‘political realism’, and who decides?

        Is ‘gay marriage’ and tranny/gender insanity just ‘political reality’ and that “surrendered without a fight” ground can never be recovered?

        This is where the boomers always miss the plot.

        If the Left has taught us anything, it is that REALITY is whatever we decide it is.

        15 years ago not even Hussein would have advocated for gay marriage.

        Today we have trannys breaking women’s sports records and teaching little children in schools while dressed in full drag.

        What would boomers ever do about it?


        Besides complain.

        That’s how ALL of this happened.

        Boomers have way too much to lose to ever actually DO anything to stop the always encroaching and fear-inducing Marxist police state.

        But what the Boomers COULD do is get behind the young conservatives and Anons (some of whom are called ‘Groypers’), who are so screwed that they literally have nothing to lose, so they are free to take ACTION.

        Boomers will say all the sexual deviancy is just ‘political reality’, just like Dan Crenshaw said in the video I posted.

        I say that all that degeneracy can be vanquished even more quickly than it manifested, if We the People decide that is the political reality we want. Remember, it’s like 1% of the population that rammed all this garbage down America’s throat. If the 99% (or even a tiny fraction thereof) actually stood up and said HELL NO!, the frauds and phonies who push this garbage would scurry back under their rocks.

        But in the absence of ANY pushback, they just pushed the envelope to infinity, like a rocket moving through outer space without any resistance.

        Another example. Boomers will say it’s ‘political reality’ that we have 25+ million illegal aliens in America. Boomers will say that it’s just impossible to remove 25+ million illegals. Boomers always say it’s ‘impossible’ whenever they really just don’t want to do something, or whenever they’re happy with the status quo.

        Those 25+ million people can absolutely be rounded up and expelled. All that is required is the political will to do it, and that will is coming.

        Another example is islam. Boomers would have let Leftists import islam right up to the 5% to 7% of the population islam requires before they begin taking over. There’s no doubt at all that Boomers would have allowed that.

        They would have complained loudly, but they wouldn’t have done a *&^$ing thing to stop it. It’s just a ‘political reality’, don’tcha know.

        Here is another reality: islam can be outlawed, based on the same criteria established by Founding Father Samuel Adams, i.e., that while religious toleration is commendable, there should be no toleration of any religion that seeks to subvert civil government or society.

        So recognize the plain, undeniable, incontrovertible TRUTH about what islam is, and outlaw it. And anybody who is islamic and won’t renounce islam can be evicted. Make THAT ‘political reality’. It isn’t going to happen on its own, and the Boomers sure as *&^$ aren’t going to do it, but the Groypers and Anons might, if the Boomers support them.

        Outlaw Communism for the exact same reasons as islam, and based on the exact same principle established by Samuel Adams. Make that a ‘political reality’.

        If the Left can put the Overton Window on Wile E. Coyote’s ACME rocket skates, then why can’t we stop it, and send it right back the other direction?

        We can. 👍

        Trump is saving America. America was in critical condition, and Trump is stabilizing the patient.

        Hopefully, he will recognize and harness what America’s young conservatives are doing, and take the next logical step, which is RESTORING America back to full health.

        And a BIG part of that requires:

        1) stopping ‘replacement population’ mass-immigration

        2) stopping all of the gender/tranny nonsense

        3) removing the intentionally injected cancer of islam

        4) removing the intentionally injected dementia of Communism

        Basically, STOPPING all of the insanity that the Marxist Globalist Cabal has FORCED on our country, and the brownshirts (muzzies) they imported as foot soldiers.

        It’s all doable.

        If the young conservatives are willing to take up that fight, Imma thinking they should receive massive support.

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        1. I agree! I think it’s a great fight. The TRANSGENDER INSANITY is exactly where I think we have to just say NO FUCKING WAY.

          Any Republican who wants the trans insanity and satanic drag queen story hour is GONE, and Don Jr. needs to check his friends to make sure he’s not getting CAUGHT IN A PINCH. Would not surprise me if TPUSA is being manipulated into becoming a TRAP FOR TRUMP.

          But I will also say this. I do NOT want to EVER go back to the way it was when I was a kid, when “beating up fags” was an acceptable youth sport. “ANTIFAG” is every bit as NAZI and repulsive as ANTIFA.

          This is why I think that our VSG has perfect aim with his push on decriminalization of homosexuality. That is exactly where I think the sweet spot is.

          There was a happy and SANE medium, and we passed it a decade or two ago, because of the Marxist Globalist Cabal, exactly as you said.

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          1. “But I will also say this. I do NOT want to EVER go back to the way it was when I was a kid, when “beating up fags” was an acceptable youth sport. “ANTIFAG” is every bit as NAZI and repulsive as ANTIFA.”


            Very much agreed. I never saw anybody get beat up for being gay when I was a kid, but then again, when I was a kid, I didn’t know anybody who was gay. It wasn’t anything that kids thought to even talk about, until MTV in the early 1980s, and guys started wearing earrings to signal they were gay. I remember when that was a big thing. For my age group, it’s not like homosexuality was a regular subject of discussion, just the opposite, at least until we had no choice because suddenly homosexuality was everywhere in ‘pop culture’.

            Nobody ought to be beat up or intimidated, there’s nothing lawful or Christian about that. Just as homosexuality should never be endorsed or promoted. There’s nothing lawful or Christian about that, either.

            And at this point, a lot of the so-called ‘gender confusion’ or ‘uncertainty’ at a young age has been forced on kids. If I understand correctly, the DSM always categorized it as a mental illness, until suddenly, for Leftist political reasons, it was changed.

            I don’t know that any credible medical argument was ever even advanced for changing it, it appears to have been changed for completely for subversive Marxist reasons, i.e., the homosexual agenda, as outlined in books like “After the Ball”.

            And since it has been and is currently promoted and glamorized, is anybody even trying to find an effective treatment or cure?

            Homosexuals are often quoted as saying they would never choose to be gay, and they would be straight if they could. Is anyone even trying to help them, instead of enabling their condition?


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