Dear KAG: 20191023 Open Thread

October 23 over the centuries has brought a number of highlights. One of them is actually Phyllis Schlafy’s daughter’s in-laws winning the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1947. American immigrants from what was then Czechloslovakia, Carl & Gerty Cori won a legitimate prize for their work in the discovery of glycogen metabolism.

In keeping with the spirit of the Czechs other than Father Gregor Mendel the grandfather of genetics, here is what some Germans did with a famous Czech composer’s best known work with socialist overtones.


Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.

Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Seriously, when watching the action, none of this now.

Julie Newmar is right. Those boys are juicy.

And a quick photo I took at Scott Air Force Base at a federal employee fundraising event. The eagle’s name was Liberty, and he was recovering from having been hit by a car. The sanctuary where he was recovering was one of the non-profits featured that day.

And now for some house keeping:

There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time. In that amazingly long line at the grocery store is a good spot.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.

Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.


In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed.

Today’s Lectionary tells us what is our responsibility in the bargain of salvation:

ROM 6:12-18

Brothers and sisters:
Sin must not reign over your mortal bodies
so that you obey their desires.
And do not present the parts of your bodies to sin
as weapons for wickedness,
but present yourselves to God as raised from the dead to life
and the parts of your bodies to God
as weapons for righteousness.
For sin is not to have any power over you,
since you are not under the law but under grace.

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace?  
Of course not!
Do you not know that if you present yourselves
to someone as obedient slaves,
you are slaves of the one you obey,
either of sin, which leads to death,
or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?
But thanks be to God that, although you were once slaves of sin,
you have become obedient from the heart
to the pattern of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Freed from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

And now, on to the day’s news…..

774 thoughts on “Dear KAG: 20191023 Open Thread

    1. “HERO MATT GAETZ: “We Gotta Stop Thinking We Can Use Marquis of Queensbury Rules Against Angry Pack of Rabid Hyenas””



      Has Godot actually arrived?!? 😁

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      1. The DEMONicRATS have put her there to normalize polyamory, infidelity, and total lack of principles and ethics. She is a prototype for what they want… and the deep state, no doubt, owns her…

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    1. A Latino outreach campaign in Spanish for a U.S. election rubs me the wrong way. They might as well say, “You can come here (even illegally) and not assimilate. And then vote for us.”

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    1. Yeah, InfoWars (or one of their new bad hires) pulled a fake news on us there. The injectables is a SEPARATE issue, and definitely not in Austin. They’re using normal biometrics as the KEY, and storing the stuff in BLOCKCHAIN on the internet.

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      1. Biometrics are the scariest thing. Facial recognition, fingerprint scanning….never do it. Of any sort. Even what appears to be a harmless game on Facebook. One step closer to Big Brother.

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        1. I agree. AVOID!

          I’m a bit hypocritical on that recommendation, b/c (1) some biometrics were REQUIRED of me, so it’s water under the bridge, although I can still limit (beyond what the ChiComs have hacked out of various databases) who ELSE has it, and (2) the situation is even worse for me, in terms of trackability. I just live with it. Like I said, water under the bridge. SO much water, I am simply thankful I didn’t drown.

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  1. Put this in the “good luck with that” category:
    NYC Bar Calls For AG Barr to Recuse Himself From ‘Ukraine-Related Matters’ – Including Ukrainian Involvement in 2016 Election, Biden Crime Family

    “The NYC Bar said that since Bill Barr was mentioned in the transcript of Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he should not be allowed to investigate anything related to Ukraine, including Crowdstrike and the Biden crime family.”

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  2. Praying Medic
    Why did Adam Schiff say he doesn’t need the whistleblower anymore?
    What if there is no whistleblower?
    What if Schiff wrote The whistleblower complaint?
    What if Trump knows?
    Quote Tweet

    Donald J. Trump
    · 13h
    Where’s the Whistleblower?

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    1. I’ve been thinking there is no whistleblower from the start. Obviously I could be wrong, but no whistleblower fits right in Schitty ‘s MO, kind of like the “proof” he’s been spouting off about for how long.

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      1. Just the possibility that this is true and that it will all come out is delicious.

        I thought it might do us all a little bit of good to indulge in a tiny bit of hopeful glee.

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        1. I’m with ya LM. There is too much secrecy surrounding this whole contrived b.s. Rush says it is they way the Ds are campaigning. They have nothing to offer except to build hate and distrust. Fail!

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        2. Regarding Grassely’s tweet about deep 6ing the investigation, ristivan at TCh says:

          ristvan says:
          October 23, 2019 at 8:07 pm
          Grassley is showing his age and hence subsequent ignorance. Lets go over the basics yet again.

          PDJT said NEVER AGAIN concerning Spygate. That promise is only kept if there are perp walks and convictions.

          PDJT’s chosen instrument is AG Barr. We know that because of his publicly conferred declass power. NOT for us, for Durham grand juries.

          We know from Barr congressional testimony that he knows there was spying on PDJT, the only question being whether adequately justified. He is pursuing that question on two tracks:
          1. Horowitz FISA abuse, where he already has Nunes criminal referrals. When Horowitz agrees, is done. At least Comey and Yates down.
          2. Durham EC predicate. And now we know via Ms. Powell that Barr and Durham went to Italy, got the Mifsud deposition, and got both his cellphones using UK SIM cards. Mifsud was western intelligence, not Russian as Mueller report said. Leads to MI6 leads to improper EC predicate. Game over. t least Brennan and Clapper also down.

          This all starts VERY soon. Hence Dem frantic antics.

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    1. This excerpt from the linked article might interest Wolfmoon:

      “How is Russ so good at playing make-believe? He says hypnosis is a great tool.

      “When I use the hypnosis I can put you in a kiddie pool with a couple inches of water and tell you there’s a great white shark in there, and you’re gonna think there’s a shark in there,” he said. “And so, when you have that kind of power over people, and have them do and see things that you want them to see, then they can leave here thinking it really happened, and they’ll go to the authorities and say, ‘oh, whatever,’ and I have to come back and show the footage and say, ‘it didn’t go that way at all.’

      “It’s saved me a thousand times.”

      Over the years, Russ has been able to tap into the fears of everyone that’s come through the manor. He says he works each show around everyone’s individual fear, so it’s never the same show.

      Russ says a common fear people share is water.”

      Sounds like mind-control / MK-Ultra-ish.

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      1. Yeah Scott and the guy said he has 22 years military lol,he enjoys his job to much.
        It is to bad we cant send him down into the basement of the White House to deal with the dems.

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        1. “It is to bad we cant send him down into the basement of the White House to deal with the dems.”


          At first I laughed at the idea 😁

          Then I thought imagine if he could.

          Then I thought… why couldn’t he be hired to freak-out, gaslight and otherwise mess with Devilrats… in the basement of the House… or anywhere… else?

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            1. Could be.

              Need a ‘Go Fund Me’ page, and some way to record the reactions of the Dems, so it can all be posted on the interwebs for viral Halloween laughs 😁

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      2. Exactly. This is why I have been able to zero in on what Sidney Gottlieb actually accomplished. Nothing magical – just some highly unethical human experimentation, modern medicine, abused psychology, and extreme secrecy.

        The FEARS (in fear-based hypnotic conditioning) don’t have to be elaborate, either. Nor do they have to be terrifying or troubling. THIS is one of the key points that allows the process (Gottlieb / 80’s-era drug / hypnotic MK) to be used surreptitiously on people and they walk away without a clue. And remember – in the case of “real MK”, we’re talking about benzodiazepine-assisted amnesia of everything surrounding the programming. The memories of the induction and programming are LOST just like dreams.

        In the case of CA3, they needed to channel two people to not deviate from a script, and ultimately the legal defense of the institution would likely have been that the people did not deviate from the script (see how that works? – they LOVE reinforcing responses) – but the fact is, the people SHOULD have deviated from the script. And why did they NOT deviate? In one case for sure, and probably the other one – FEARS. An assortment of small, “seemingly normal-ish”, but irrational fears that only seemed “too illogical” in retrospect. FUTURE PROVES PAST. Very hard to describe, very hard to track – requires a certain view of time that’s hard to articulate to people, and is only possible with an extremely strong memory.

        The problem is that this stuff is TOO MAGICAL. Gottlieb knew he had something brilliant – a true holy grail. They went to extraordinary lengths to cover it up, even the whole-cloth sacrifice of the project as a failure, using their ridiculous Senate kabuki. But think about the extraordinary pay-off they got from it – the ability to CHANGE HISTORY almost unseen, just like (IMO) “pencilneck”, who I believe did the due diligence of making sure that there was a functional “ad hoc” programming interface in humans from WAY BACK. We just hacked our way in.

        They ALMOST got rid of Reagan. They ALTERED HISTORY with affirmative action. Just by TWO OPS in 1981. Who knows what else, but I think a LOT of stuff.

        Like he said, hypnosis is a great tool. And that tool is a PIPSQUEAK next to REAL MK – where SCIENCE took the carnival act and made it SPY GRADE.

        It’s too tempting. Think about it. Think about the TEMPTATION of this stuff. And THAT brings us back to Lanza’s psychologist and the teen girl patient who claimed he was raping her.

        It had to be abused. It was only a matter of time.

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        1. “They ALMOST got rid of Reagan. They ALTERED HISTORY with affirmative action. Just by TWO OPS in 1981. Who knows what else, but I think a LOT of stuff.”


          There should be a way to get a rough estimate.

          It looks like MK-Ultra began in 1953. Suppose it was operational by 1960. Anything that altered history would be like a ‘Black Swan’ event.

          So figure out the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events from 1900 to 1910, and from 1910 to 1920, and 1920 to 1930, etc., up to 1960. Get a baseline for how often ‘Black Swan’ events occur.

          Then compare that data to the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events occurring from 1960 to 1970, and 1970 to 1980, etc., up to the present day.

          If the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events is relatively consistent across the decades, and then there is a significant jump beginning in 1960 to 1970, and steadily increasing each decade up to the present day, that could certainly be an indication that something non-organic or unnatural is going on.

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          1. Interesting idea. It may work best with certain specific subsets of events.

            There will be changes and jumps in such categories of events for other reasons, but we may still see some kind of statistical evidence.

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        2. “It’s too tempting. Think about it. Think about the TEMPTATION of this stuff.”


          And people (most people) will never believe it’s even possible, until they see it. I have a hard time believing it, and I spend at least some time reading about this stuff.

          If you wanted to open peoples’ eyes to it, make a Hollywood movie that uses it as a major plot point.

          Once the necessary percentage of minds are then prepped (no idea what percentage of the population the ‘necessary percentage’ is, but I’m sure that percentage is known), it just becomes a matter of public consciousness. Not the reality, but the concept, and how it would work, in theory.

          Then declassify official government docs, showing that the theory is actually reality.

          The same or similar two-step procedure could be used to prepare the population for nearly any classified subject matter deemed too jarring for public consumption.

          As always, the problem is ‘what is too jarring’, and who decides.

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          1. Good points. Although, I think it’s much more likely that there would be Hollywood cover-up by “fictionalization”.

            The difference between a portrayal that makes something plausibly real, and a portrayal that makes something plausible but clearly unreal and (important) the likely source of any leakage on the REALITY, is pretty small. Hollywood is very good at creating fictions which seem CLOSE to promotional, and which take advantage of speculative minds, but are actually detracting, and thereby protect the realities.

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    2. I read about that, and it’s not just about ghosts and spooks. You sign a waiver to allow them to do things to you, like lock you in a coffin with live cockroaches or even poisonous spiders, or hold your head under murky water until you feel like you’re going to drown. (In the case of the spiders, it is your responsibility to remain still and not get bitten.) It’s actually dangerous, and it goes on for hours. You can beg to be allowed to leave, but it’s up to the personnel to decide if you can leave immediately or if they can make you stay much longer. You sign away your freedom and rights, and it’s an injurious, traumatizing experience.

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      1. I watched the videos and this guy is definately someone you dont want in your head.
        When I was 11 my sperm donor abandoned me in a haunted barn to go have his affair in the parking lot.
        I was left alone and pushed into a place a didn’t wanna go.
        3 seniors from the high school volunteered to scare the shit out of everyone and I was the main target.
        I dont do haunted things anymore because I do get physical,not by choice,it just happens.

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        1. I am so sorry that happened to you. Sounds genuinely awful and made 10x worse because your father chose to leave you by yourself in that experience. you did not deserve to be treated that way. One thing I have learned is that the way a parent treats a child is a reflection of who the parent is not a reflection of who the child is. Every child deserves a loving parent who will do their best. So sorry for that experience!

          I don’t do anything haunted – why choose to live through an unpleasant experience?!

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    1. The waiver is absolutely necessary because of the things I wrote in my description above, and more. It’s a truly dangerous experience. Anyone with health conditions or allergies to bee stings or the like (or even a healthy person) could be in very real and perhaps life-threatening danger. The guy has been sued many times but has prevailed because of the waivers.

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        1. Yeah, it’s weird. He sounds like a clean-cut guy who doesn’t smoke, drink, or do drugs, and he has spent a LOT of money putting this thing together (and each experience is different). But he doesn’t charge admission except food for his dog(s). It’s hard to know his real motivation.

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        1. “What moron would give him permission to be hypnotized.”


          All the morons would.

          That’s why they’re morons.

          And there’s no shortage of morons… 😁

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