Can The US Government Seize The Assets of the Climate Fraudsters?

Just sayin’. If it’s a scam, it’s a scam. (H/T Intellectual Froglegs for opening image.)

FIRST:

THEN:

AND THEN:

Because the financial swindle is pretty well known now.

And it’s mostly THIS DUDE.

  • MONEY
  • It’s a scam
  • Don’t think
  • Them banks
  • In Europe
  • even
  • GIVE
  • a damn.
  • MONEY
  • It’s a con
  • Don’t think
  • Them kids
  • Realize
  • What
  • Fear drugs
  • Teacher
  • PUT
  • ‘Em on.

Yeah. CLEAN IT UP. Hit the MONEY and watch ’em SCATTER LIKE RATS.

W

PS – check out Greta’s mom. WEIRD A. F.

UPDATE (Thanks, Scott!) – First two tweets are PARODIES – followed by REAL STUFF.

PARODY:

Repeat: PARODY:

REAL STUFF:

And finally, a deep thread on “MK Greta”:

Oh, wait – one more thread about “Gr€ta”…

93 thoughts on “Can The US Government Seize The Assets of the Climate Fraudsters?

      1. A bit of background on the ‘Follow the Money’ aspect.
        The banks own the press, or at least a large portion of it. link

        WHAT IS IN IT FOR THE BANKS?

        World Bank Carbon Finance Report for 2007
        The carbon economy is the fastest growing industry globally with US$84 billion of carbon trading conducted in 2007, doubling to $116 billion in 2008, and expected to reach over $200 billion by 2012 and over $2,000 billion by 2020

        Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after ‘Danish text’ leak: Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement…

        …The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

        The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as “a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks”….

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  1. Good thread.

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        1. Apparently Martin got into a spat with Neon Revolt recently, over Martin’s support of SB2 (‘Serial Brain 2″?), who (apparently) almost got some innocent woman killed with his numerology conclusions.

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          1. Sure looks like Geddes has made a stench of himself in the nostrils of Neon Revolt and his following for quoting Serial Brain. The funny thing is that Praying Medic just recreated an older serial brain series and no one seems to be pushing back against him about it. I do recall Wolf pushing back pretty hard against SB2’s numbers games in the past and others here have seemed to feel his thoughts have some value.

            What is being argued about isn’t as interesting a data set to me as how the players in the argument handle themselves. In this case Neon Revolt is positioning himself as the SME, citing his time in the game and history with the movement. And while being right, you could say he is showing a certain level of arrogance in his response. And Geddes responds in kind. Others chime in to support Neon Revolt by mocking Geddes.

            Not looking super mature.

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            1. Some said SB2 was sent in, was pushed in, or himself came in to harm the movement, taking advantage of Q’s schtick of not criticizing people TRYING (and failing at) “logical thinking”.

              I chose not to attack SB2 directly, but to state my personal belief that he was doing what amounts to a card trick which moves the desired card “miraculously” to the right place. Whether that trick is done intentionally or by self-deception really doesn’t matter – it’s a trick.

              My money is on self-deception – among the most extreme forms of “confirmation bias” – where one searches through arbitrary connections, FINDS ONE THAT WORKS, and says “it was planned that way”, when the planning and operation are not even close to worth the effort.

              SB2 knows Trump and Q won’t answer. He can say whatever.

              Self-deception or deception – take your pick.

              I plant small literary Easter eggs myself, but with MINIMAL effort. So I have my own “gem-planter” bias, but it is sound reasoning, b/c I have loads of time and spend minimal effort on “gemming”. Trump? Gem-planting numbers? No. He does make sly barbs, allusions, references, and under-the-table strikes in his tweets, but he doesn’t play with timestamp Bible codes, IMO. The Q team that manages his Twitter DOES play games with timestamps and references, but not some of this stuff SB2 alleges. No way.

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              1. 1. SB2’s number games just look like games to me because there are SO MANY WORDS in our language and only 9 integers & 26 letters, therefore he can pick and choose to his hearts content.

                2. Q’s purpose is to make people think LOGICALLY and to DIG information out of public sources. He gives clues to start that digging. SB2’s number games are orthagomal to Q’s purpose. I doubt Q wants us wasting time on ‘analysing’ HIS comments INSTEAD OF the public sources.

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            2. Agreed very much.

              Neon often comes across as you describe, and I get the impression that is mostly due to his age (guessing he’s in his 30s) and, primarily, because the volume of information he is processing (and the number of cranks he almost certainly deals with) compels him to not ‘suffer fools lightly’ as it were, and that can easily come across as arrogance.

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              1. Also after a while it is a lot harder to ‘suffer fools gladly’ ESPECIALLY after you realize they are not just fools but ACTIVELY promoting dis-information with the goal of enslaving others.

                Tony Heller went that route and I certainly do not blame him. I have not followed NeonRevolt enough tohave a clue to what he is thinking.

                That said, conservatives have a bad habit of devolving into spats amongst themselves and the Commies are delighted to help that division along…. It really makes me want to KICK ASSES!

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              2. AMEN!!!

                Also worth noting that SB2 is not always on Planet Random Construct. Especially the “first two steps” of some of his proofs. They often start off on what looks like a real (but small) Easter egg, but then get sketchier and sketchier.

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        2. Further down in the Neon Revolt thread, there was this question posed by Martin Geddes:

          Martin Geddes asks: “Question for Christian friends: how would you react if the #GreatAwakening revealed the Bible you are using is missing critical passages; has had false doctrines inserted to decieve you? (We already have things like the book of Enoch; how much more?). “The end won’t be for everyone.”
          https://gab.com/MasterpieceTheater/posts/102811671203227155

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          Great question.

          How would I react?

          NO FEAR, that’s how.

          The same way I reacted to the “Sam Harris Demolishes Christianity” video I recently stumbled across:

          It’s always intriguing to watch someone who manifestly doesn’t understand the subject (Sam Harris) attempt to ‘demolish’ it, because what immediately becomes apparent is that he doesn’t understand why his points miss their intended target.

          All he manages to do is reveal is lack of understanding, he doesn’t land any ‘blows’. And that has ALWAYS been the case with every speech, article or video of this nature that I have experienced.

          So I have no fear at all from such challenges.

          And besides that, God certainly has nothing to fear from the truth, so why should we?

          I would ask Mr. Geddes if he has given his own question enough thoughtful consideration that he could pose an example.

          It wouldn’t be easy.

          For one, the fact that the Book of Enoch is NOT in the Scriptures is evidence that books which were not inspired by God were excluded, and there are of course MANY more which have been excluded, because there is nothing to prevent anonymous ‘authors’ from writing books and claiming they are inspired.

          But the HARD part is fraudulently writing a book to misrepresent it as authentic Scripture, and then claim it should be INCLUDED in the canon, because it would necessarily have to ‘pass’ some very strenuous ‘tests’.

          The first test that occurs to me is that any such proposed ‘new’ (i.e., previously unknown) book would necessarily have to RECONCILE with the other 66 accepted books of the Bible, and NOT contradict.

          For the very good reason that God is perfect (and does not lie, cf. Titus 1:2), and God knows the end from the beginning (cf. Isaiah 45:10), therefore God does not contradict Himself.

          So any ‘new’ book claiming to be authentic Scripture must either reconcile with all the other accepted books (in which case no contradiction or new revelation would be introduced), or if it DID introduce contradictions (which would be the whole point for a subversive to do it), the proponents of the ‘new’ book would have to show how the accepted books were WRONG and the ‘new’ book was ‘right’.

          Good luck with that.

          All the other books are consistent with one another, and the ‘new’ one contradicts, and the ‘new’ one has no other sources which agree with it, it is an ‘orphan’.

          Subverting God’s Word has never been nearly as easy as those who don’t read it seem to think it would be.

          I think that’s largely because non-believers think believers are stupid.

          If God is Who He claims to be, if He created the universe and everything in it, then making sure that His Word was properly written down and preserved across time in a way that fulfills His objectives would be an incredibly simple thing, by comparison.

          And if God is NOT Who He claims to be, then how is it that the Scriptures have been examined more thoroughly and more harshly and more critically than any other writings in the history of Man, and yet they remain unbroken?

          The nice thing is that the argument will be settled, and we will all find out the truth — shortly after we take our last breath.

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          1. I asked an Orthodox Christian how they choose the books in their accepted Bible. He said, there were books that were understood to be authentic at the time of their decision making that did not make the accepted list because the purpose of the books in the Bible was to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ first and foremost. This was an interesting perspective that I had not heard before.

            I think that the important thing is to understand the holy reverence the scribes (copyists) held for the scriptures. The practice of burning an entire scroll if there were errors found. The archeological evidence showing very consistent content from century to century in scriptural scrolls found in caves.

            Then there is the use of math to show internal consistency, which may be more difficult to track with, but it is a very compelling concept.

            Ivan Panin’s story can be found here: https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/panin2.htm

            God is A Mathematician
            By Keith Newman

            The authenticity of the Holy Bible has been attacked at regular intervals by atheists and theologians alike but none have explained away the mathematical seal beneath its surface.

            It would seem the divine hand has moved to prevent counterfeiting in the pages of the Bible in a similar manner to the line that runs through paper money. Bible numerics appears to be God’s watermark of authenticity.

            Vital research on this numeric seal was completed by a native of the world’s most reknowned atheistic nation, Russia. Ivan Panin was born in Russia on December 12, 1855. As a young man he was an active nihilist and participated in plots against the Czar and his government. He was a mathematical genius who died a Harvard scholar and a citizen of the United States in 1942.

            Panin was exiled from Russia. And after spending a number of years studying in Germany, he went to the United States where he became an outstanding lecturer on literary criticism. Panin was known as a firm agnostic—so well known that when he discarded his agnosticism and accepted the Christian faith, the newspapers carried headlines telling of his conversion.

            It was in 1890 that Panin made the discovery of the mathematical structure underlining the vocabulary of the Greek New Testament. He was casually reading the first verse of the gospel of John in the Greek: “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with the God and the Word was God. . .”

            Panin was curious as to why the Greek word for “the” preceded the word “God” in one case and not the other. In examining the text he became aware of a number relationship. This was the first of the discoveries that led to his conversion and uncovered the extensive numeric code.

            :

            In the original languages of the Bible, mostly Hebrew and Greek, there are no separate symbols for numbers, letters of the alphabet are also used to indicate numbers.

            The numeric value of a word is the sum total of all its letters. It was curiosity that first caused Panin to begin toying with the numbers behind the texts. Sequences and patterns began to emerge. These created such a stirring in the heart of the Russian that he dedicated 50 years of his life to painstakingly comb the pages of the Bible.

            This complex system of numbering visibly and invisibly saturates every book of the scriptures emphasizing certain passages and illustrating deeper or further meaning in types and shadows. The 66 books of the Bible 39 in the Old and 27 in the New were written by 33 different people.

            :

            Panin says the laws of probability are exceeded into the billions when we try and rationalize the authorship of the Bible as the work of man. He once said: “If human logic is worth anything at all we are simply driven to the conclusion that if my facts I have presented are true, man could never have done this”.

            “We must assume that a Power higher than man guided the writers in such a way, whether they knew it or not, they did it and the Great God inspired them to do it”.

            :

            Let’s take the number seven as an illustration of the way the patterns work. Seven is the most prolific of the mathematical series which binds scripture together. The very first verse of the Bible “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1), contains over 30 different combinations of seven.

            This verse has seven Hebrew words having a total of 28 letters 4 x 7. The numeric value of the three nouns “God”, “heaven” and “earth” totals 777. Any number in triplicate expresses complete, ultimate or total meaning.

            Also tightly sealed up with sevens are the genealogy of Jesus, the account of the virgin birth and the resurrection. Seven occurs as a number 187 times in the Bible (41 x 7), the phrase “seven-fold” occurs seven times and “seventy” occurs 56 times (7 x 8).

            :

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            1. “I asked an Orthodox Christian how they choose the books in their accepted Bible. He said, there were books that were understood to be authentic at the time of their decision making that did not make the accepted list because the purpose of the books in the Bible was to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ first and foremost. This was an interesting perspective that I had not heard before.”

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              I would immediately ask him which specific books those were that ‘understood to be authentic’ but ‘did not make the accepted list’, and then examine them for internal consistency with the accepted 66 books.

              I don’t believe they would pass that test, but it would certainly be interesting to show it.

              Man always seeks credit for the ‘accepted canon’, which always strikes me as at once being incredibly arrogant and at the same time disbelieving the power of God.

              If God can create the universe and everything in it, certainly He can preserve His Word in such a way that accomplishes His objectives:

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              So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11, KJV)
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              If we remove any self-will to take credit for the accepted ‘canon’, and look at it from a practical standpoint, it seems very simple.

              First, the entire New Testament was completed before the end of the 1st century, with most of them completed at a time when at least several of the Apostles were still alive to confirm, and certainly John was still alive when ALL of them were completed.

              The Apostles clearly would know and be able to confirm if any book, letter or epistle was of God, which can be shown in Scripture by many different verses.

              So at the end of the 1st century, the New Testament is complete. While anyone can dispute anything (and therefore the object is ‘disputed’), as a practical matter, those books which were confirmed and accepted by the Apostles during the 1st century were widely known and noted by early 2nd century Christians, who kept ever growing lists of false books and false gospels as they were discovered.

              Many point to one council or another in the 300s AD as when the ‘canon’ received the ‘imprimatur’ of men. So what is the story behind that? Did no one HAVE the Scriptures for 250 years, between the beginning of the 2nd century (100 AD) and circa 350 AD?

              What happened to them?

              Did somebody collect them all and lock them in a dungeon for 250 years?

              How was anyone saved, if no one knew or obeyed God’s Word, because all the copies of the books of the New Testament were locked in somebody’s basement? It’s silly, and only grows more absurd the more it is examined.

              Or is it more likely that the NT Scriptures were known and in active circulation (cf. Colossians 4:16) since they were written, and men who thought something of themselves (or had some motive to take credit for them) decided to officially ‘recognize’ what everybody else already knew and had been reading and following for the previous 250 years?

              Which is more plausible?

              Is God — Who created the universe — so weak and inept that He cannot preserve His Word?

              Were God’s people without access to His Word, and therefore without opportunity for salvation for 250 years?

              In nearly every book written down by Paul in the New Testament, isn’t he correcting some error of men in a congregation of the Lord’s church (which serves as an example to us)?

              If men who knew the Apostles personally (and whose congregations were often established by one of the Apostles or disciples of Christ) were prone to error, how much MORE error were men prone to, 250 years AFTER the fact — without any Apostles around to correct them?

              This is another reason why the Scriptures are so critical. What men do and say and practice changes with the direction of the wind (just look at the mess DP outlined in her recent Thread here, and that’s just ONE church among many).

              But God does not change (cf. Malachi, 3:6). His Word endureth for ever (cf. 1 Peter 1:25).

              The written Word is the best and highest (and I would argue ONLY) source of Authority. It is the only source of Authority that is unchanged and unchanging, standing the test of time.

              Or to say it another way, all Scripture is given by inspiration of God (cf. 2 Timothy 3:16). Ergo, whatever is not given by inspiration of God is, by definition, of Men.

              Who or Whom are we to follow and obey, man or God?

              Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)

              By what Standard will we be judged, according to the doctrines and commandments of men, or according to the Word of God?

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              He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. [49] For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. [50] And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.” (John 12:48-50)
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              .

              I think many people are reluctant to challenge others’ beliefs because they have been taught to think it is unkind, or disrespectful. I think it is unkind and uncaring to not share the truth with others — especially those of like precious faith (cf. 2 Peter 1:1) — if one has good cause or reason to believe he has found it.

              I want the things I believe to be tested and challenged. I want to know if I am wrong — and if so, why.

              It is far more important to me to learn and know the truth, than it is for me to simply believe I am ‘right’.

              And by the same token, if the position(s) which are presented according to Scripture and plain reasoning withstand scrutiny, should they not be accepted — absent any credible argument to the contrary — by those who believe God and His Word?

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              1. Thank You Scott…. Once again.
                A Keeper and expositor with Great WISDOM.
                Keep up the Great “comments”.

                ps.
                An often overlooked or unknown reason for the Birth and Life of Christ:
                So that the (inspired) writers of Scripture would have something to write ABOUT.

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            2. I think everyone is missing Geddes’s point. In the 16th century, when the revolt happened and the heresy of scripture only became fashionable, Martin Luther switched the original Old Testament for the Newer version, and supposedly messed around with parts of the New Testament.

              It could be that simple.

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              1. And then there is the issue of the bias of translators. I have a lot of astonishment at God’s grace that the essential heart of the Gospel continues to be heard and responded to for these two thousand years.

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          2. “Martin Geddes asks: “Question for Christian friends: how would you react if the #GreatAwakening revealed the Bible you are using is missing critical passages; has had false doctrines inserted to decieve you? “
            ….

            how would I react?
            Nice to see someone else has those thoughts.

            To me it makes a lot of sense.
            #1. Royalty & the aristocracy have used the pristhood to keep people under control going back to the Egyptian Pharaohs and before.

            #2. Reading and writing was not universal and the scribes owed their livelihoods to the aristocracy. Piss them off and you could lose your head.

            #3. !st son inherits the land. Second son is for the military, third son is for the Priesthood and unwed daughters the Nunnery. How else do you get rid of the ‘spares’?

            Read Chaucer’s The Canterbury Tales, the only kindly portrait of the religious figures is that of the lowly village priest who would not be a member of the aristocracy.

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            1. I think it’s going to be a bit more science-based, but that’s my prejudice. Others will see it as more religion-based, but that is their “point of view”. But any kinds of disclosure – whatever they may be – require adjustment of worldview.

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            2. “To me it makes a lot of sense.
              #1. Royalty & the aristocracy have used the pristhood to keep people under control going back to the Egyptian Pharaohs and before.”

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              I know this is going to sound strange to anyone whose church has a separate ‘priestly class’ or ‘clergy’, but can anyone point to Authority (command, Apostolic example, or necessary inference) in the New Testament for a separate ‘priestly-class’ in Christianity?

              Or for any special clothing to distinguish and outwardly identify such a separate ‘clergy’ or ‘priestly-class’ within the Lord’s church?

              Or the qualifications for the position or title of a ‘priest’ in a ‘clergy’ or ‘priesthood’ that is separate from the congregation? The qualifications to be a bishop (a.k.a. elder) are given twice (1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9) and for the office of deacon the qualifications are given in 1 Timothy 3:8-12.

              Where are the qualifications to be a ‘priest’ in a separate ‘priestly-class’ found?

              [Note that one of the clear qualifications to be a bishop a.k.a. elder in the Lord’s church is to be the husband of one wife, and the father of faithful children… and while God is not obligated to give His reasons for anything, in this case, He did so. (1 Timothy 3:5) How many bishops in churches today meet God’s qualifications for the office they hold? At least several major churches specifically forbid any bishop from meeting God’s qualifications, i.e., being married or having children…]

              The Old Testament Jewish religion clearly had a distinct ‘priestly-class’, whose qualifications were clearly and very specifically outlined in the OT (first and foremost, any priest had to be from the tribe of Levi).

              Where are the qualifications given in the New Testament to be a member of a separate ‘priestly-class’ in Christ’s church?

              They are not found.

              Since the New Testament was completed before the end of the 1st century, and there is no example or Authority in the New Testament for a separate ‘priestly-class’ in Christ’s church, then the practice necessarily must have begun sometime after the 1st century, i.e., after the New Testament was complete, long after Christ’s church was established (Acts chapter 2, in Jerusalem, on the day of Pentecost) and long after Christ’s church had spread throughout the entire known world.

              Which leads to the next obvious questions:

              1) When did the institution of a separate ‘priestly-class’ start?

              2) Who started it?

              3) By what Authority was it started?

              4) If anyone can cite ANY Authority for beginning or instituting a separate ‘priestly-class’, what is the citation for that Authority to start it, so that we could examine it? (e.g., a decree, letter, opinion, editorial, book, article, journal, diary, ANYTHING in writing which would positively identify the SOURCE of the Authority to start this practice)

              Why don’t most people ever ask these basic questions?

              About everything having to do with matters of belief and practice and worship — not because they’re ‘deep’, but because they’re obvious. How does someone NOT think to ask these kinds of basic questions?

              Are the answers not extremely revealing?

              Which naturally makes me wonder if THAT isn’t the reason why it seems these basic questions are rarely asked… is it because they don’t like what the answers reveal?

              Can it be that simple?

              But if that is the case, then what is the proper response?

              Is the proper response denial?

              Or doing what is required in order to reorient ourselves to be in harmony with Christ and His will for His church?

              After all, whose (or Whose) church is it?

              Is it ours, or is it Christ’s?

              If it’s OURS, then clearly we can do whatever please and only be accountable to ourselves (woo-hoo!).

              But if it is Christ’s church, then who (or Who) has the Authority to determine the organizational structure and mission of Christ’s church?

              Is it not Jesus Christ?

              And if Jesus Christ has the Authority, then where can we find His commandments and examples (and necessary inferences) for the structure and practices and worship which is acceptable to Him?

              Is it found in His Word (the inspired Word of God, cf. 2 Timothy 3:16), or is God’s Word to be ignored, and we should follow the decrees and opinions of men (oftentimes men whose own positions and titles which likewise can be found nowhere in God’s Word, either?).

              Are these not Kindergarten level basic questions?

              If no Authority for a separate ‘clergy’ or ‘priestly-class’ can be found in the New Testament (it was not practiced by the Apostles or the 1st century church) then is it not, by definition — of man, and not of God?

              If it is of men and not of God, then why does anyone follow it, or do it, or practice it?

              It’s a pretty big thing, so there must be a reason…

              Who (or Whom) are we supposed to follow — man, or God?

              Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)

              If there is any context wherein that verse is NOT true and applicable, what context would that be?

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              1. “…If it is of men and not of God, then why does anyone follow it, or do it, or practice it?….”

                I don’t I very much dislike MANMADE churches. Too many hypocrites and I have been to services in most pver the years.

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          3. Follow the original manuscript text streams (the Alexandrian out of Egypt and the Byzantine out of Antioch), and better understanding can be appreciated as to the formation of the canon (the 66 Books of Holy Scripture). The Roman Church (the Alexandrian stream) has included books that are not the inspired Word of God. The Mormons took it to a whole new level!!!

            The Creator of the Universe chose to communicate to His creatures throughout the generations through His written Word. The Lord Himself has guided and preserved His written Word down through the centuries (a simple task for the Creator of the Universe!).

            If you choose not to believe this, that is fine and dandy—no proselytizing on my end. My seminary schooling has not left me empty, but sealed and confident in my position with the Creator through His Son, Jesus Christ.

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            1. “The Roman Church (the Alexandrian stream) has included books that are not the inspired Word of God.”

              What books would those be? If you are referring to the Helenistic Canon of the Old Testament (Wisdom, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach and the Maccabees, as well as parts of Esther and Daniel) they were actually REMOVED by the Jerusalem Jews between 100-290 AD in their whittling down of the Septuagint to have books remaining (Masoretic Text) which are still used without the instruction in the others. Sts. Augustine of Hippo and Jerome got into a big argument about which to use at the Council of Carthage in 397 AD when the Books of the New Testament were determined to be of Divine origin. St. Augustine prevailed and we use the Septuagint.

              Really, if one were to compare Christ’s instructions to all of the books of the Septuagint, many can be found in Sirach and Wisdom.

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            2. DP—I have learned through the years to avoid arguing with a Catholic regarding their Bible. 😉

              So if we call these “extra” books the “Apocrypha” or intertestament writings, they were reconfirmed “canonical” at the Council of Trent in 1546 (confirming the canon of Augustine). This was somewhat in response to the Protestant Reformation movement of the 1500’s.

              I have serious problems with Augustine and his hermeneutical method (following in the steps of Origen)—supplanting the grammatical-historical (literal-sense) method of biblical interpretation with the allegorical method (spiritualized-figurative sense). Augustine’s “City of God” reflects this change in hermeneutics.

              The allegorical method discards the husk (the literal-sense meaning) for the kernel of truth (a deeper , spiritualized meaning which is subjective and resides in the mind of the interpreter!!!). In my book, this is anathema and leads to false doctrines (teachings).

              Aspects of the Reformation were in direct response to the aforementioned with Luther and Calvin rejecting the Augustinian hermeneutic.

              Therefore, my doctrinal positions do not value Augustine’s viewpoint, which would also pertain to his canonical conclusions.

              DP—please go down the path that is right for you, and I will go down the path which the Lord has led me down.

              A theological or doctrinal argument cannot be accomplished in a few short paragraphs—it requires a doctrinal dissertation (of which I have quite a few).

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        3. Every climate “ scientist “ has to go along to get along. All grants , tenure etc is sewn up by the climate scam. There is serious $ in this. Trouble is they’ve brainwashed a generation. Everybody is making $ off this scam. The scientists, the green energy crowd, banks,politicians. This trough is deep and wide to service so many snouts

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  2. That video of Greta’s mom is sooo creepy.
    😬😧
    Both parents seem like con artists.

    And yes, Wolfie…I think the assets of the climate fraudsters should be seized!
    The whole thing is a massive Hoax!

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  3. “And it’s mostly THIS DUDE.”

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    Unless I have misunderstood, apparently the ice queen with the white blonde hair is a comedian making fun of the Malena Ernman-Thundberg woman. This was posted further down in the Twitter thread:

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    “Petik
    🇸🇪
    ‏ @petik_68
    17h17 hours ago
    Replying to @jay2kQ17 @peterpobjecky

    Thats Christine Meltzer, a Swedish comedian, doing a parody of Malena Ernman.”
    ………………………………..

    Another photo was posted, apparently showing the real Malena Ernman-Thundberg (who I’ve never heard of before about 5 minutes ago, btw):

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  4. The Democrats and Potus

    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Thread

    For @dmk

    You wrote, “If this Democratic primary were part of a fictional story, I would dismiss it as too outlandish and not remotely credible as a plot.”

    I answered, “That’s your proof that Trump is in control.”

    It reminded me of a short story titled “Witness.”

    SPOILER ALERT.

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    @dmk

    A homicide detective is extremely frustrated. He knows that a cocky socialite murdered his wife to get her money, but there’s no evidence.

    Another cop tells him to go to a magician who is on tour in their city.

    Since the detective has no leads, he goes to see the magician.

    When they meet backstage, the cop is uneasy. The magician never blinks, and he says almost nothing.

    “There’s not only no evidence, there’s no witness,” the detective says.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    “You’re wrong,” says the magician. “There’s a witness.”

    “Who?” asks the detective.

    “I’ll solve this case, but only if you do exactly what I tell you to do,” the magician says. He ignored the question.

    The next night, a cop drives the detective and the magician to the suspect’s house. they’re in an unmarked car.

    The detective says that they’ve found a witness, and they want to know if the suspect will agree to go see the person.

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    @dmk

    “Who’s this man with you?” the suspect asks.

    “Are you going to come with us, or will we just let the witness gave a statement without you having the chance to rebut it?” the detective asks.

    “Sure, I’ll go with you,” the suspect says. “You don’t have a witness, but I don’t mind wasting my time.”

    The detective gets in the back seat, followed by the suspect. Then the magician crams himself in beside the suspect.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    “Hey, why aren’t you sitting in the front seat?” asks the suspect.

    “Drive!” shouts the magician.

    The car takes off.

    At the first corner, the magician shouts, “Turn left!”

    They drive along for a while.

    “Turn right!”

    A few minutes later, “Turn left!”

    “What is this?” asks the suspect. He seems to be getting nervous.

    “Turn right! Turn left!”

    “Where are you taking me?” demands the suspect.

    “Turn right!”

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    The longer they drive, the more upset the suspect becomes.

    “Turn left! Turn right!”

    “Okay, I’ve had enough! Take me home!”

    “Turn left! Turn right! STOP!”

    The car stops in front of a moving-company warehouse.

    “Out of the car!” the magician shouts.

    “I’m not going anywhere!” the suspect yells.

    Why?” asks the detective. “I thought you were innocent. What do you have to be afraid of?”

    The suspect gets out, and the magician takes his arm, pulling him into the magician’s body.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    The walk around to the back of the warehouse, where they find an unlocked door.

    When they go in, the magician firmly strides forward, through aisles and past furniture, safes, washing machines,,,until they come to a trunk.

    The magician stops and says, “She in there. Open the straps.

    The detective opens the straps and lifts the lid of the trunk. A woman’s body is inside, wrapped in a blanket.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    As the detective handcuffs the murderer, the murder shouts, “How did you know? HOW DID YOU KNOW? I killed on the night of the city-wide power outage! It’s was pitch black! Nobody could’ve seen me! Who’s the witness?”

    “You,” says the magician. “Your guilty conscience gave you away. First I made you nervous by not saying anything, and then I sat up against you in the car. Every time we came to an intersection, you involuntarily twitched in the direction you drove.”

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @dmk

    “When we got out of the car, I pulled you up against me, and I made you walk as fast as I could. Again you twitched, leading me right to where you’d put your wife. There’s always a witness to every crime. And I know how to make that witness talk.”

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    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
    @dmk

    I read that story when I was a little kid, and I always wanted to meet someone like that magician.

    Well, our president is like that magician.

    He’s controlling the Democrats as easily as the magician controlled the murderer.

    What I thought was fiction turns out to be reality.

    We’re all very lucky to see it happening.

    END

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  5. Plausible

    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Thread

    For @drawandstrike

    You wrote, “My impression is that neither Biden or Warren can get the nomination. Which is fine because out of the frontrunners, the person I think Trump would want to run against the most is….

    “Kamala Harris.”

    That got me to thinking.

    Trying to reverse engineer Trump is almost impossible, but how does THIS sound?

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    @drawandstrike

    Biden was riding high until the Democrats were stupid enough to fall for the Ukraine whistle-blower trap.

    I don’t think Biden’s high poll numbers were the result of anything HE did.

    I’ve been wondering how Trump would manipulate polls without doing anything illegal or unethical, and the answer came to me:

    “The leaks are real. The news is fake.”

    People support Biden because the press tells them that he’s cool ‘n junk.

    Where did the press get that idea?

    From Trump.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @drawandstrike

    So Trump builds up Biden and then takes him down.

    The buildup is important. If nobody cared about Biden, the takedown wouldn’t be effective.

    NOW, the press is building up Warren.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @drawandstrike

    Warren has absolutely nothing going for her.

    She’s a fraud, she’s repulsive, and she has no platform.

    But the press is building her up because Trump is directing it through the use of disinformation about how she’s got momentum.

    If Warren surpasses Biden and then get’s demolished with a single hit job, we’ll know that you’re right.

    It’ll be Harris.

    Trump would want Harris, because she symbolizes leftist destruction.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @drawandstrike

    Harris and Newsom were responsible for the murder of the Bologna family.

    A 17-year-old MS-13 member thought they MIGHT HAVE BEEN rival gang members, so he shot to death Tony Bologna (48) and his sons Michael (20) and Matthew (16).

    A third son survived, but his identity is being kept secret.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    @drawandstrike

    Harris and Newsom fought to keep the illegal-alien MS-13 member from being deported, despite his criminal record.

    After he was released back into the Bay Area instead of being turned over to ICE, he murdered the Bolognas.

    He’s been sentenced to life without parole.

    Trump would LOVE to confront Harris with this. He takes atrocities like this personally.

    Harris is personally loathsome, and she can’t think on her feet.

    Trump would eviscerate her.

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    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
    @drawandstrike

    So if Warren is built up and then reduced to rubble, we’ll know that the nominee will be Harris.

    END

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    1. Makes sense here. And the beauty of Trump’s “disinformation” on Pocahontas having “momentum” is that (1) it was true, (2) it was the Fake News narrative – he just agreed with it, and (3) the trick is that it both didn’t matter and nothing was said about how much or in what direction – “momentum” is a nothingburger without direction and magnitude. SMART.

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  6. Moar tw
    Back

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Thread

    In 2017, the Iranians unveiled the Karrar, their new main battle tank.

    It’s a deathtrap.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    After the tank fires the main gun, it rocks back and forth for several seconds.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    ALL western tanks have had stabilized main guns for more than forty years.

    Tankee no rockee.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Also, the Iranian tank uses an automatic loader.

    It’s much slower than the human loader of the American M1 Abrams.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Finally, the ammunition of the Iranian tank is stowed in the crew compartment.

    The ammunition of the M1 Abrams is stowed behind a blast wall that opens to let the loader get the round.

    If the ammunition “bustle” is hit, blow-out panels on the top channel the explosion away from the crew.

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    Americans know that the most important parts of a tank are the crew.

    They must be saved. If they’re allowed to die, all that training was wasted.

    Iran doesn’t train its troops. They’re expected to die.

    Therefore training them is a waste.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    The mullacracy of Iran is 100 percent fraudulent.

    Although the mullahs DID hit Saudi oil facilities with cruise missiles, the Saudis say that the facilities will be back online in ten days.

    Also, the Saudis intercepted a cruise missile, the first time it’s ever been done.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    The mullahs showed their hand. Now everybody knows about their weaponry.

    The Saudis intercepted a cruise missile, but we don’t know how.

    The missile caught fire and broke apart in midair.

    Missile defense systems allow you to calculate the impact site.

    The Saudis decided that they would take the hit, because it wouldn’t do that much damage, and it would prove that Iran is indeed trying to start a war.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Trump and the Saudis responded with 100 percent confusion.

    It’s absolutely brilliant.

    When your enemy has no idea what’s happening, that gives YOU the advantage.

    Twice now, Trump has said, “I could’ve bombed them, but I decided not to.”

    Our enemies foreign and domestic–I’m talking about YOU, Tulsi Gabbard–have nothing they can use against Trump.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Currently Gabbard is the only Democrat talking about war.

    The others fell for the Ukraine trap.

    And while all of this is happening, the Saudis are doing who knows what.

    The Saudis send out disinformation about how they can’t do anything unless we help in a huge way.

    The reality is that the Saudis have eight years’ worth of combat experience in the Third Revolution in Military Affairs (3RMA).

    They don’t need us to do any heavy lifting.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Sun Tzu said that the prudent commander keeps his plans secret even from his own men.

    I’m positive that Trump tells Pence what he wants, and Pence does it without asking questions.

    Pence trusts Trump.

    It’s clear that others don’t, so they’re let go.

    In the same way that Trump keeps his plans secret, the Saudis keep THEIR plans secret from us.

    Even from Trump.

    But he doesn’t need to know.

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Trump and the Saudis have a big-picture plan, but Trump isn’t being briefed on specific steps.

    Americans have a cultural deficit of CYA. We’re always afraid of being held responsible for failure.

    Trump isn’t afraid, so he takes calculated risks that others find unacceptable.

    Remember:

    Before he was elected, Trump said, “If I fail, it’ll be MY FAULT. Nobody else’s.”

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    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
    Tulsi Gabbard is a mediocrity who will never get anywhere.

    It’s because she can’t conceive of the relationship Trump has with other world leaders.

    Tulsi is forever stuck in the pre-Trump era.

    Why did we have a state dinner for AUSTRALIA?

    My guess is that Australia provided evidence of the attempted Democratic coup.

    So Trump is honoring them.

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    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
    Trump’s world is an iceberg. We see only about 10 percent.

    I’ve been following the wars in the Middle East since 2011. Following them daily.

    Trump learned from Bush’s many mistakes. Doing things slowly and secretly is the best way.

    Iran puts out videos of crappy weapon systems that will kill Iranian soldiers.

    The Saudis keep most of their capabilities under wraps.

    Idiots are fooled.

    I’m not an idiot.

    END

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  7. Ehh. It’s on
    REX @REX
    THE STORM is here.

    Rudy Giuliani is launching direct attacks on Joe Biden. We haven’t seen this before.

    This isn’t just about knocking Biden out of the Dem primary. Giuliani is making direct attacks on Obama. How did we miss it? The route to Obama & Clinton is through Biden.
    Of course. So many of us didn’t see it!

    This week is going to be EPIC.

    ‘Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.’ Sun Tzu

    @drawandstrike @ThomasWic @Debradelai

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RudyGiuliani
    Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) on Twitter
    mobile.twitter.com

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  8. Climate Fraudsters:
    If you want some of the detailed and specific intentions, read the 35 page detailed UN document I have recurrently posted over the last few weeks, which is entitled:
    “Draft outcome document of the United Nations summit for the adoption of the post-2015 development agenda. Transforming our world: the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development
    The climate axis provides the UN with an income stream and another method of bureaucratic eco-governance. It is absolutely critical to the implementation of the UN Agenda.

    http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/69/L.85&Lang=E
    …..

    Mann, Jones et al, in a nutshell. From Judith Curry:

    Once the UNFCCC treaty was a done deal, the IPCC and its scientific conclusions were set on a track to become a self fulfilling prophecy. The entire framing of the IPCC was designed around identifying sufficient evidence so that the human-induced greenhouse warming could be declared unequivocal, and so providing the rationale for developing the political will to implement and enforce carbon stabilization targets. National and international science programs were funded to support the IPCC objectives.

    Were these just hardworking scientists doing their best to address the impossible expectations of the policy makers? Well, many of them were. However, at the heart of the IPCC is a cadre of scientists whose careers have been made by the IPCC. These scientists have used the IPCC to jump the normal meritocracy process by which scientists achieve influence over the politics of science and policy. Not only has this brought some relatively unknown, inexperienced and possibly dubious people into positions of influence, but these people become vested in protecting the IPCC, which has become central to their own career and legitimizes playing power politics with their expertise.
    http://judithcurry.com/2013/08/20/scientists-and-motivated-reasoning/

    …I believe advocacy by climate scientists has damaged trust in the science. We risk our credibility, our reputation for objectivity, if we are not absolutely neutral. At the very least, it leaves us open to criticism….

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/political-science/2013/jul/31/climate-scientists-policies

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  9. The Climate Fraud that produces nothing but poverty. It does not produce a single penny of wealth and instead acts as a short circuit across the advancement and wealth of an entire civilization. It tosses most of humanity back into the 17th century… if that.

    The IPCC mandate states:

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was established by the United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP) and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) in 1988 to assess the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant for the understanding of human induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for mitigation and adaptation.
    http://www.ipcc-wg2.gov/

    Humans were tried and found guilty BEFORE the IPCC ever looked at a scientific fact. The IPCC mandate is not to figure out what factors effect the climate but to dig up the facts needed to hang the human race. The IPCC assumes the role of prosecution and and the skeptics that of the defense but the judge (aka the media) refuses to allow the defense council into the court room.

    SteelyGlint says:

    “What’s the difference between a policy wonk who’s up to date with the science and someone employed as a scientist who is informed about the policy questions? Indeed, one might expect a possible career path to include a transition from scientific practitioner to policy adviser.”
    …………………….
    dave204 answers:
    As someone who worked for years in ‘policy’ and ‘advice’ I think that’s one of the funnier things I ever read. The qualities that take you forward as ‘policy adviser’ are not the qualities that help you to succeed in science. To put it bluntly, people who do well in policy advice are by and large people who are willing to make the figures/facts say whatever the politician/career loon wants to hear. Hope that helps.
    http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/25632079

    That answer is certainly a keeper!

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    1. Academia is providing the manufactured evidence to ‘frame’ the human race and they are KNOWINGLY doing so. In other words Academics who prides themselves as being ‘lofty socialists’ untainted by plebeian capitalism are KNOWINGLY selling the rest of the human race into the slavery designed by the bankers and corporate elite. (Agenda 21)

      “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination…
      So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
      ~ Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

      “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing
      them on the climate models.”
      ~ Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

      “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.” ~ Dr David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University

      “The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” ~ Daniel Botkin emeritus professor Department of Ecology, Evolution, and Marine Biology, University of California, Santa Barbara.

      The Bankers, CEOs, Academics, and Politicians know exactly what they are doing, and that is the complete gutting of western civilization for profit. The lament “it is for our future children” has to be the vilest lie they have ever told. since their actions sell those children into slavery.

      ……

      Pascal Lamy, Director -General of the World Trade Organization and buddy of Bill Clinton outlines WHY “The Cause’ aka Climate Fraud MATTERS to the Elite.

      …climate change negotiations are not just about the global environment but global economics as well — the way that technology, costs and growth are to be distributed and shared….

      Can we balance the need for a sustainable planet with the need to provide billions with decent living standards? Can we do that without questioning radically the Western way of life? ….

      How to provide global leadership? Mobilizing collective purpose is more difficult when we no longer face one common enemy, but thousands of complex problems.

      The Cold War was about the clash, not just of geopolitical interests, but of big ideas… Butthe Cold War “glue” has disappeared….

      The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed….

      All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s — when turning inwards led to economic depression, nationalism and war. All, including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence….”
      http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=9174

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  10. Wolf 🐺 😳👍‼️‼️‼️ …. I’m SO glad you posted this link …

    https://mobile.twitter.com/timetowakeupsw1/status/1174822562674741248

    I caught it from

    🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋
    September 21, 2019 at 12:53

    It’s absolutely awesome … all the info on the climate creep …. WOW WOW WOW … generationally evil …

    Thank you thank you thank you ….

    Shine the kleig lights on the scum …

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/searchlights-picture-id82581223?s=612×612

    h/t to bflyjesusgirl …. I copied from her … 😛🤚❤️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️

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