Wanna Buy Greenland?

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Kalaallit Nunaat – Start practicing how to say it. 

You have to admit, never, ever, in a million years, did you EVER think the Trump Presidency would be THIS GOOD. Admit it, come on, admit it, no one saw this coming.

Mid-afternoon yesterday, we were all getting ready for the Trump Rally in Manchester, NH. I checked Twitter for new pics from our supporters and noticed a WSJ article about President Trump trying to buy Greenland.  Link   Full Stop. Huh? He wants to buy a country?

Buying a country? Hehe, yeah baby – There’s your new GREEN Deal!!!!

The WSJ article went on to explain the idea is not as far-fetched as it sounds. Apparently, the USA tried to buy Greenland in 1867. Again, in 1946, Truman offered 100 million dollars for Greenland, but the Danes turned us down. Greenland is an
“autonomous region” owned by Denmark.

The WSJ continued. Apparently, President Trump was at a round table, meeting with leaders, somewhere, when the subject of Greenland came up. Denmark subsidizes the 50K+ residents of Greenland to the tune of 591 million dollars, annually. The drain on Denmark’s purse was causing strain. Someone asked Trump if he was interested. President Trump turned the question back to the table and replied, “What do you think?”

Well, if the largest island in the world is a distressed asset, a fixer-upper, and in a great location, who else but Donald Trump could put the deal together? One tidbit, the residents of Greenland are not allowed to buy land. They only have the use of the land, to build a home/biz, whatever. The land still belongs to Denmark, making such a transaction much easier.

Well, it may have been an offhand joke at the time, but the WSJ is reporting President Trump came home and asked his WH Counsel to look into the idea. Additionally, the WSJ reports President Trump has brought up the idea of purchasing Greenland several times in Cabinet meetings. The USA has a Treaty with Denmark giving the USA almost unlimited access and use of Greenland. Treaty has been updated and amended a few times take a look at latest revisions here. Link

By the time the Trump Rally was over, about 8:40pm Eastern time, CNBC posted an article about Greenland and also referred back to the WSJ article. Link

I woke up to let the dog out about 4:00am Eastern (bewitching hour for the east coast media), and was still thinking about how terrific the rally was last night. The first 9 tweets were all about Greenland, including this one.

In fact, Greenland is now TRENDING on Twitter.

Of course, the left is knee-jerk opposed to the idea………. but in a desperate kind of way. It’s hilarious to watch.

The replies and responses are pure gold!

The MSM has clearly been caught with their pants down. Pundits can’t talk and they are stuttering without approved talking points from (whomever sends the talking points).

Meanwhile, others are looking at the idea seriously. This morning, suddenly, everyone is talking about GREENLAND. We want to know EVERYTHING about Greenland.

Here’s a map to get you oriented:

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Found this article, written by Rick Mills, which is excellent:  Link  Rick’s motto is ” As a general rule, the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information”

Good Motto, we need good information. Here is some basic background about Greenland from Rick.

The population of Greenland is 56,648 with 14,719 inhabitants living in the capital Nuuk (formerly Godthab). The majority of Greenland’s population live in towns along the fjords in the southwest of the country where the climate is relatively mild. The second largest city is Sisimiut, followed by Ilulissat and Qaqortoq.

Whoops, this might be a problem…..

Greenland has had “Self Rule” since June 21, 2009 (including control over minerals and petroleum) – which means that the country has assumed making the political decisions that previously come from Denmark.

Did Obama agree to giving away our stake in Greenland? Kangerlussuaq (Søndre Strønfjord) in the West or Narsarsuaq in the South, were American air bases. We still have Thule Air Base in Greenland. From the WSJ article, Pompeo was scheduled to visit Greenland in May, but the trip was canceled in because of tension with Iran. Hmmmm….

In Greenland, the story is all about minerals and natural resources. Yet, we might have another problem……. because of Greenland’s new autonomous rule, but owned by Denmark. Gee Whiz, might be why the WH Counsel is looking into it. Greenland’s constant reliance on Denmark for ‘grants’ and subsidies, is straining the relationship.

The BMP is the authoritative body for all administration in relation to the mineral resources industry in Greenland. Licensees only have to apply to one place to obtain all their necessary licenses – the BMP is very much a ‘one stop shop’ – ensuring efficient administration in the area of mineral resources. The BMP has the regulatory authority to review, evaluate and approve all SIA’s, licenses and facilitate public hearing processes.

….. The BMP took over from the Danish authorities in 1998. (my emphasis added)

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Rare earth’s, coal, lead, zinc, silver, diamonds, and exploration of gas and oil makes Greenland very tempting.

*Greenland’s geology is continuous with that of Canada and Northern Europe. It includes:

  • Archaean cratons – potential for diamonds, gold, REE
  • Paleoproterozoic mobile belts – potential for base metals, PGE’s, gold and tantalum
  • Lower Palaeozoic sediments – potential for base metals
  • Carboniferous Cretaceous sediments – potential for coal
  • Lower Tertiary intrusive complexes, the Skýrgaard intrusion being the most important in terms of gold and PGE potential

Greenland’s offshore geology is highly prospective for petroleum. The United States Geological Survey (USGS) estimated, in 2007, that the East Greenland Rift Basins Province could hold over 31 billion barrels of oil, gas and natural gas liquids. The USGS also estimated that the waters off Greenland’s west coast could contain more than 110 billion barrels of oil (roughly 42% of Saudi Arabia’s reserves).

For anyone who thinks President Trump is crazy, take a look at what the CEO’s are doing. Yeah, they already know………

ExxonMobil, Chevron, Husky, Encana, the UK’s Cairn Energy and Denmark’s Dong Energy are among the companies that have either already won or applied for exploration licenses from Greenland’s Bureau of Minerals and Petroleum for acreage.

And finally, here is the hook, and probably why our VSG is pondering the idea.

But how will Greenland pay for the responsibilities it may eventually take over from the Danish state? The main challenge to securing greater self-government is overcoming the reliance on the annual grant Greenland receives from Denmark and replacing it with revenues generated from within the country. Mineral mining and oil and gas production would ease this dependence. Fortunately Greenland is highly prospective for minerals and is hugely underexplored – the country is a new, and one of the last, frontiers for mineral and petroleum exploration.

Greenland is still reliant on Denmark, and Denmark is tired of paying for Greenland….. enter……. President Trump.

It’s such a PRETTTyyyy country.

And development would make America WEALTHY again….. Hmmmm…..

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He’s thinking about it……..

This morning, is was 63 degrees in south Greenland at 4:00AM Eastern time. Want to visit Greenland?

Here’s their tourism website. Pack well.

Here is an hour long documentary about Greenland. The ice is 3 kilometers thick in some areas. And hey, with all the talk about Climate CHANGE, maybe we could get AOC to move to Greenland??????? Maybe? The video is great and the photography is spectacular.

What do you guys think?????

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249 thoughts on “Wanna Buy Greenland?

  1. Eichenwald has no idea that our President can walk and chew gum at the same time. He has an either/or and a single focus mind.

    Our VSG President would use profits from Greenland’s resources, minerals, energy, etc. to fund infrastructure projects in the USA, while providing jobs, security and access to communications and commerce to the citizens of Greenland.

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      1. I told my husband “what he thinks of buying Greenland?”
        He said “what does anyone want with Greenland?”
        By the way “maybe people who live there have something to say about that.”

        I am the one who sees the finished product and possibilities and he thinks how to get there and what the cost is. Grrrrrrrrrrr

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        1. We need both mindsets, I hate to admit it, but we do.
          We need the miniscule details + the big picture.
          This is why we have husbands who are a good match. Thank you, luv ya, husbands.

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          1. daughnworks247
            “We need both mindsets, I hate to admit it, but we do.
            We need the miniscule details + the big picture.
            This is why we have husbands who are a good match. Thank you, luv ya, husbands.”
            ______________________________________-
            I grudgingly agree 🙂
            As my husband tells me “he was put on earth to save me from myself.” (rolling eyes)

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              1. My ex and I were at a party. Someone started joking about whether or not we would remarry after one of us died. We went around, giving different answers, most were romantic, until we got to my ex.
                He laughed, looked at me and said, “Oh baby, in 6 weeks, I would run out of clean underwear.” Meaning, of course, we would remarry.
                I came home, and the next day, I burned all his underwear………. all of it. Left a note in his underwear, “Might be time to start looking!”

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              2. Oh my goodness, Im howling with laughter…that is great.

                I’ve done a few things, but never that good. I flung a spoonful of baby food at DH when he was mimicking me – right before company arrived.

                He picked up carryout dinners, and walked away from an argument before we got a chance to eat. He got on the lawn tractor and started cutting the grass. I went out on the front porch, signaled him to watch and dumped dinner on the porch…signaled him to stay and watch, reached for a beer and poured the bottle over the fish carryouts, but I never burned his underwear. Classic. I love it. Lololol.

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              1. I had a colleague who (I think only half-jokingly) compared marriage to a three-ring circus.

                First comes the engagement ring.
                Then, the wedding ring.
                The, the suffer-ring 🙂

                I think it’s better to look at is as GOD being the HEAD of the household and marriage. The man and wife are them partners in doing GOD’S Perfect Will.

                Sometimes it’s not easy, but GOD will get us through it, and Bless us.

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      1. No one is interested unless there is a carrot and a stick.

        The stick is Denmark themselves (assured), or Russia/China – future potential, likely.

        The carrot is the U.S. and its economic investment.

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          1. “As us citizens it would open up lots of options for them….”

            LIKE OWNING THEIR LAND instead of ‘leasing it from the crown’ The UK, Canada, NZ and Australia have the same problem. YOU CAN NOT OWN LAND! The Queen OWNS it. And as some internet sage once said:

            “If you can not OWN property, YOU ARE PROPERTY!”

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        1. Yes and no.
          Comes down to money.
          Greenland is a bunch of socialists and 591 million dependent on Denmark, per year.
          Denmark is in a pinch.
          Tired of paying.

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          1. So far the reactions from Denmark’s politicians is mostly one of amazement and surprise — Søren Espersen of Dansk Folkeparti has said this is madness, and Lars Løkke Rasmussen, head of the Venstre party, has called it an april fool’s joke.

            So it isn’t so much that they are reacting negatively, as Greenland’s government is, rather that the whole idea is considered so extremely preposterous, as the whole thing just is completely outside their Overton window.

            I can kinda see their point of view: It isn’t every day that entire countries or regions are traded between countries as if they were big chunks of real estate, and even with historical events like the purchases of Alaska and Louisiana — the northern Europeian tradition has been conquest and establishment and dissolution of unions.

            Still, if it makes economic sense, and the requisite carrots are made available, it might be made to work.

            Let the relevant authorities have some time to shift from «What? Madness! April fool’s?» to «hmm, maybe this could be done, what are pros and cons?»

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            1. “It isn’t every day that entire countries or regions are traded between countries as if they were big chunks of real estate, and even with historical events like the purchases of Alaska and Louisiana”

              We actually purchased Greenland from Denmark before.

              In WWII the Danish government faced a cash flow problem in that their entire tax base had been temporarily seized by the Wehrmacht, and the governing officials were living in London.

              Our military was worried that with Denmark in Nazi hands, the Germans would claim it’s territory Greenland, too, much as Vichy France got the French islands in the Caribbean and off the coast of Canada.

              This would open up Greenland to being used for Kriegsmarine U-boat bases on our side of the Atlantic, and for weather stations that could give the Axis powers advance warning of Arctic weather fronts that affect Europe and the Atlantic. That could give their land, sea, and air forces a crucial advantage in the war.

              So we solved both problems by buying it from them, with a wink-and-a-nod agreement that we would sell it back to them after the war.

              We set up our own weather stations there, and the advanced warning of Arctic storm fronts they gave was an important advantage in the Allied war effort, even affecting the planning for D-Day.

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              1. Ok, I’m going to retract the claim we actually bought it, pending further research.

                I know we did need the weather stations there, and the Nazis AFAIK were never able to use it.

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        2. Marketing matters.

          Potential wins for ALL…Danes shed a liability ($). Folks in Greenland become appreciated. Employment opportunities huge, me thinks. Tourism, natural resources… Latter can’t be had without destroying esthetics, environment…

          Greenland a US Territory, huge in my thinking.

          Wonder where Greenlander’s opposition lies? What were they asked? Was there a likely scenario of what is, could be proposed presented?

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            1. “Big Muskie — one of the largest earth-moving machines in the world — operated in this area. The bucket of this leviathan was large enough to hold two full size buses.”

              Paging Sylvia – if you need a bigger shovel… ;:)

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  2. As for Puerto Rico – as my Mama and Grandpa used to say, “You can’t help some people.” The US has poured billions upon billions to the corrupt island of PR – and it’s been futile. They are lazy as all get out and won’t help themselves. They left food on the tarmac to rot. I guess they wanted someone to hand deliver and cook it for them. “Sorry and no count” is the term Southerners use.

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    1. “Puerto RICO, my heart’s devotion, may it sink back in the ocean…I like the isle of Manhattan. Smoke on your pipe and put that in!”
      Stephen Sondheim

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      1. The Broadway version goes

        Rosalia: Puerto Rico,
        You lovely island
        Island of tropical breezes…

        Anita: Puerto Rico,
        You ugly island,
        Island of tropic diseases
        Always the hurricanes blowing
        Always the population growing…

        And the money owing,
        And the babies crying,
        And the bullets flying.

        I like the island Manhattan.
        Smoke on your pipe and put that in!

        And to think that Sondheim and Bernstein wrote that 60 years ago – even back then PR was a dump…

        (interesting to note that one of the mods OT sang Anita in college! )

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  3. Great post, Daughn.
    😀🤓👍
    Nice work!

    Didn’t Denmark take in a lot of those ‘refugees’ from Africa?
    I think they did.
    That has got to be another big drain on their coffers too.

    I didn’t know that Greenlanders were not allowed to own land there.
    That’s not right.

    That might present us an opportunity there…to win over the people:

    “Hey, as US Citizens you get to own your own land and develop it to make lots of money…and you can have guns, too!”
    “We will also help you market whatever you want to sell!”

    I wonder why Denmark hasn’t been developing the raw materials there?

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    1. Many states/townships in the US are the same when it comes to “Mineral rights”.
      There was a run on oil/gas and everyone wanted a platform in back yard.
      Led to a mess.
      This is not the same in Greenland. Similar, but more severe in Greenland because “The Crown” was involved….. no clear answer yet. Still digging on that one.

      Concerned though, if they turned over all mineral rights in 2009 to the people – we’re screwed.
      No motivation to develop.

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      1. Seems a post vaporized…unless I posted and can’t find it…LOL.

        Government IS the problem…Denmark government IS the problem…Denmark inept government is restraining Greenland economic growth…to the detriment of Denmark and folks in Greenland.

        There is no good reason, (yea I have not analyzed the facts), that Denmark must send $591 Million dollars to Greenland. Imagination and capitalism deficient. Tourism some money. Natural resources appears to be the key. Large leases for petroleum, mining… Unleash capitalism!

        100%, American entrepreneurs could turn Greenland into a hugely profitable opportunity for locals and the conglomerates.

        America needs to capture this opportunity…Greenland a US Territory;-)

        $591 million annually is only $1.6 million daily.

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      2. Daughn,

        I know this much to start with…

        The number of nations on earth where an individual human being can own petroleum oil that is still in the ground is exactly 1. I’m pretty sure this applies to natural gas, as well.

        The US the only place where people get rich because oil is discovered under land that they own the mineral rights to. Everywhere else it belongs to the national government or the crown or the collective or whatever.

        And that’s for oil under land. Oil under the sea is probably private nowhere.

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    2. Government is the problem…Denmark Government is the problem.

      Denmark, With a little initiative, could lease swaths of Greenland so natural resources could be mined, drilled… Flat rate, percentage on profits….more than pay the $591 Million Denmark sends to Greenland.

      Could be lucrative for Denmark. Jobs for folks in Greenland. A Capitalist could turn this around quickly…IMHO.

      Greenland as a US Territory is intriguing.

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    3. We don’t own the land, either – because we pay property taxes – we own the home – but, the taxes we pay are based on our home assessment…just saying

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        1. We can never own the land – that is why it is so easy to use eminent domain – the municipality owns the land – so if they need it for the ‘greater good’ (usually, for profitability) – then, they can seize it – unless you can pick up your house and move it to another location, it is demolished – and they pay next to nothing for you to vacate the premises – done deal.

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  4. Brilliant idea IMO. Minerals, strategic for defense in every way possible, tourism magnet, etc. The current citizens would be bonkers not to want that to happen.

    Regardless, it is a beautiful, bright shiny object for the scum MSM to chase.

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    1. I was thinking the same thing! Whether the US purchases Greenland or not (it would be so cool to visit there, I think!) I see this as a new thing the media is going to talk (scream? laugh?) about for a little bit while, but in the meantime, something else is happening. Declass maybe? A way to prevent FF? I don’t know, but it’s Friday and that means usually something major happens…. I love all this winning!

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  5. Wikipedia — take it with a grain of salt.
    In 1979, Denmark granted home rule to Greenland, and in 2008, Greenlanders voted in favor of the Self-Government Act, which transferred more power from the Danish government to the local Greenlandic government. Under the new structure, in effect since 21 June 2009,[19] Greenland can gradually assume responsibility for policing, judicial system, company law, accounting, and auditing; mineral resource activities; aviation; law of legal capacity, family law and succession law; aliens and border controls; the working environment; and financial regulation and supervision, while the Danish government retains control of foreign affairs and defence. It also retains control of monetary policy, providing an initial annual subsidy of DKK 3.4 billion, which is planned to diminish gradually over time. Greenland expects to grow its economy based on increased income from the extraction of natural resources. The capital, Nuuk, held the 2016 Arctic Winter Games. At 70%, Greenland has one of the highest shares of renewable energy in the world, mostly coming from hydropower.[20][additional citation(s) needed]

    If they have “self rule” – it would never work.
    Bummer

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      1. I would be expecting “island possession” like USVI, or Commonwealth like PR or Guam, rather than state.

        They don’t even have 60,000 people.

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  6. IT’s really quite amusing and just one more thing the loony liberal media can point to on how POTUS is mentally incapacitated. Imo, it’s kind of a “look squirrel” diversion that will give MSM something to talk about for about 24 hours before it fades away.
    I do think, however, all future GITMO-type facilities could be built there (inland, of course) and that might be a deterrent for anyone contemplating treason! No more gentle tropical breezes and opportunities for great sun tans. LOL. Also, absolutely perfect location for holding facilities for anyone seeking asylum until their hearing…in about 18 months.
    See the little laser red dot…now watch it carefully, Jack Tappper…you, too, Jennifer Rubin….oh, here comes Bill Crystal to play…

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    1. Buying Greenland is 100% worth it if for no other reason than to watch Jake Tapper have yet another epic meltdown and erode any remaining credibility CNN has. We’ll be watching YouTube reruns of that for at least four more years 😉

      The libs will totally melt down over this. And they’re the ones that are up in arms about the glaciers melting 😉

      They’ll be all up in arms opposing the purchase because of the damage to the global environment!

      Because the Republicans would destroy the Greenland ice sheet and cause runaway Global Warming because… well, just BECAUSE THEY WILL!!!

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      1. Honestly, Trump could sell as……
        well, we know the left is really worried about Climate change
        and the right is worried and points to pollution in oceans, etc., from India and China
        Soooooooooo, let’s build a 500 million dollr university in Kuuk, and let them study the problem.
        And by the way ——— we bought the country.

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      2. Yep. And speaking of CNN and MCM, there’s Disko Bay, and Disko Island.

        We could relocate CNN there.

        Because, as everyone knows, Disko sucks…

        (ducks flying disco balls, lava lamps, and platform shoes)….

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          1. (to paraphrase “Went With The Wind”) (Carol Burnett)
            “Ooooh, Miss Scarlett, you look wonderful; where DID you find that dress?”

            “I saw it in a window, and I just couldn’t resist” 🙂

            (later on, a Union Soldier stops by, asking for matches)…

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      1. “Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Halper, Nelson Ohr….

        …the spies who got put out in the cold!”

        ________________

        “Soon”?

        It’s like a joke AND the punchline, all in one 😁

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  7. Wait a minute – it is confusing.
    This gave Greenland limited autonomy with its own legislature taking control of some internal policies, while the Parliament of Denmark maintained full control of external policies, security, and natural resources. The law came into effect on 1 May 1979.
    “can be seen as a system between home rule and full independence.”[63]

    On 21 June 2009, Greenland gained self-rule with provisions for assuming responsibility for self-government of judicial affairs, policing, and natural resources. Also, Greenlanders were recognized as a separate people under international law (One country, two systems).[64] Denmark maintains control of foreign affairs and defence matters. Denmark upholds the annual block grant of 3.2 billion Danish kroner, but as Greenland begins to collect revenues of its natural resources, the grant will gradually be diminished. This is generally considered to be a step toward eventual full independence from Denmark

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  8. I like it ! .. If Home rule tastes good to the natives , the thought of full independence will be delicious .

    Denmark another EU loss? EU selling off assets ? . hehe..

    Think BIG or go home .

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  9. “There’s your new GREEN Deal!!!!”

    Hilarious!

    AND – biggest “we must do this” item…..

    Andrew “I’m not a Chinese Communist – I’m just Chinese and a Communist” Yang….

    ….is against it – presumably so that the CHINESE COMMUNISTS can buy it.

    Let me put it this way.

    As soon as I realized that Obama would pass it up so that China could buy it, I knew it was a WINNER.

    WOULD OBAMA DO IT?

    NO?

    CHINA WOULD?

    YES?

    THOMAS JEFFERSON WOULD?

    YES?

    We’re done here. DO IT!!!

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      1. OMG, I was thinking about Polk this morning.
        You and I are some kind of psychic wavelength.
        Spooky.
        Jefferson, POLK, Reagan, and TRUMP would jump.
        I want it now.
        Let’s go.

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  10. I’d be very interested in how the people of Greenland would vote in this matter.

    We sure don’t need any more Puerto Ricos or bankrupt spendthrift Californias. We need states that are willing to and legally bound to run in the black.

    Heck – our country also needs to balance its budget, pay off its debt and run in the black!!! No excuse for the deficit!!!

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    1. Agreed, completely, but this is like acquiring another Alaska = Money maker.

      I like the money on this one.
      GDP of Denmark is now 351 billion total. Yet, they are 57% owned by foreign investment (super – duper – bad).
      Economy of Denmark is SOOOOOOoo bad (How bad is it?)
      They just announced zero interest rate mortgages.
      Imagine that one – would save me $600/month. That’s a new car, insurance, gas, and + dinner out.
      Denmark is also highest taxed nation on earth.
      With entitlement minded citizens constantly demanding more and more.
      Hmmm….

      Denmark is also at negative interest rates now. Thus, how does Denmark expand their economy and pay more entitlements for the migrants allowed into the EU from Germany, etc.?

      Current debt expense to Greenland is 591 million, but that was a 2012 figure, I think. Let’s say it’s 600 million, probably much bigger but we want to be conservative in our estimates. Always good to guess to downside, better results on the upside.
      That’s about 2/10ths of 1% of total GDP.

      Denmark is top three country list for social welfare spending, 2013 stat says $13,259.8 each citizen x 5,760,694 = $76,385,650,301.20 (and we are underestimating by using old stats and pre-mass immigration push)
      And as a portion of social welfare expenses 600 million/76,35,650,301.20 =about 8/10ths of one percent.
      But getting rid of the expense, would open up about 2 billion more in funds for Danes = or about $350/citizen, and that’s annually.

      In other words, the expense of Greenland is not that big of a deal for Denmark, but IT IS a drain. AND it’s obvious, Denmark has no money to develop Greenland.

      AND, another 100 billion dollars, one time sale price for Greenland, if it was put in US Bonds at 2% would be another 2 billion a year. Now we’re up to a SWING of $700/Danish citizen.
      That’s over 5% of their entitlement cost
      Done.
      One swoop.

      It’s a good deal for Denmark, if Denmark has possession and “title” to sell.

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  11. Here’s the thing about Trump bringing this up: it wouldn’t have happened if the deal was not either already done or on the table. This is the first any of us have heard of it. Which means there’s something actually happening behind the scenes we don’t know about. How much of it is testing the winds…. IDK.

    I think Greenlanders would not be of the Caribbean variety when it comes to politics. At the same time, our system is much different than the rest of the civilized world. Plus, we’d have Canada all but surrounded, and all those undeveloped mining possibilities.

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        1. YES!
          For example, provoking liberal tears.

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        2. Buy it!
          Develop it!
          But it’s too Damn COLD for me to move there 🙂
          Next?
          Buy MEXICO!
          I COULD move there….
          Besides…
          The Mexicans seem to want to live HERE…
          And, seemingly….
          MOST of them DO (live here).

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    1. Very likely. When you are seeking to buy a distressed property on the cheap, you don’t announce your interest before you have the outlines of a deal put together.

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    2. “Plus, we’d have Canada all but surrounded, ”

      _______________

      Maybe we could finally convince them to surrender?

      Sort of like the Germans at the end of WWII, deciding whether to surrender to us or to the Russians.

      I mean, it looks like it’s either us or the Globalist Devil-worshipping Pedos.

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  12. OMG, I would not trust the fake news to hold my kid’s allowance.

    One of the world’s greatest DEVELOPERS sees an amazing opportunity to make a land purchase and change the course of history for America, and these people can only see it through the wine-bottle-bottom of their Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    No historical perspective. NONE. Our press is a MOCKERY OF JOURNALISM.

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  13. I’m withholding comment until I know more….a lot more.

    Like, is this for real or is this WSJ disinformation designed to make PDJT look bad??

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  14. Oooooo, raising my hand, better idea.
    How much does Denmark owe us in arrears for NATO spending?
    Ohhhh lookie here.
    Our latest data shows that Denmark spent $4,679,000,000 on their military in 2012 which amounted to 1.4% of the country’s GDP that year. (http://militarybudget.org/denmark/)
    Which means they SHOULD have spent 2,005,52,714.29 MORE or $6,684,285,714
    Isn’t that a coincidence —- the 100 billion sale would kick off 2 billion or about the same money the DANES should be sending to us for their proper military contribution.
    As Trump would say, “They’re delinquent.”
    They haven’t spend the required 2% in at least 12yrs according to the link.

    A really good deal, would encompass collection/attribution for Denmark’s past debt to the USA, and maybe a “special” deal for Denmark going forward.

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    1. Great catch! Fortunately, POTUS would never miss a detail like this. He is FAR too experienced in the most complicated types of deals and transactions.

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        1. This will probably stew until after President Trump is reelected. Then, it’ll be announced…

          Great on so many levels, American self sufficiency and capitalist reasons aside, lefty heads exploding…

          Great entertainment, AND winning;-)

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    2. A couple of wry comments from Chiefio’s blog:

      jim2: “What Trump should do is offer to trade Greenland for Puerto Rico!! :)”

      to which H.R. replied:

      LOL! And two second round draft picks plus 4 Senators and 11 Congressmen to be named later ;o)

      Killing two birds with one stone (ice-covered stone)… 🙂

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  15. We could guarantee that the residents retain their current govt with no immediate changes required. Grumpy resistance air leaves balloon very fast.

    After about six months, we authorize various exploratory projects, some of which have also been approved by Greenland govt. We include several for which approval has previously been denied. If the govt rejects them again, then we convene a conference whereby we inform their govt that if the projects are not approved, land ownership will not be approved either. Also, we should place the island on a provisional 2% surcharge for access to the dollar-based financial system contingent on establishing political trustworthiness for a set period (2 years? 3 years?) due to their refusal to assist in reducing costs (in good faith).

    Push comes to shove, we can simply say that the govt is not operating in the best interests of the USA; therefore the govt is a national security risk. Then dissolve it and install a provisional govt headed by a viceroy for 2 years, followed by elections.

    Creativity – that’s the ticket!

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      1. If the largess is $13.7K a yr x 56K residents = 767million a yr.
        That’s a deal.
        But only part of the deal, then have to calculate price for land.

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    1. Distressed asset, fixer-upper, and a great location.
      Solves so many issues.
      And wowwww, it would be like a MOONSHOT, when it comes to tech advances in drilling.
      We can’t even imagine the capabilities which would be invented.

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      1. All that drilling technology for prospecting and exploring in Greenland will be directly applicable when we solidify our claims on Antarctica.

        But maybe I’m jumping ahead too fast 😉

        GREENLAND is a lot closer than the MOON for mining.

        BUT we still need crazy amounts of Iridium. I think the worldwide annual production is like only like 3 tonnes!!! $520 per ounce. We’re very hopeful that there are piles of it just lying around on the moon’s surface. There might be some accessible near the surface in Greenland.

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        1. Well, maybe some green paint then.

          Or AstroTurf… something…

          I bet DJT would find a way to grow grass around that new Trump Tower… and a coupla palm trees… 😁

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  16. daughn – this OP was genius. I keep coming back to it, it’s got my braincells in overdrive. Purchasing Greenland is not just a grand slam, it’s a 4 game sweep of the World Series. Path to statehood, development rights, oil/mineral rights, militarily strategic, on and on. The amount of money that would flow into the Treasury from “rights” sales, permits, taxes, etc. would be mind boggling. Denmark is like the broke red state farmer who has more land than he/she needs and cannot afford to pay the taxes and loan payments, much less maintain the family’s lifestyle. In walks Daddy Warbucks who can clean the debt slate and provide legacy money for the farmer and family for generations. PDT can even cut Denmark into the deal for a smaller piece of that cash flow for a number of years to subsidize their socialist utopia as the pot sweetener.

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            1. But it’s the gospel truth! And the move. Creep out from under furniture to strategic positions. I’m pretty sure they got some sort of point system going. In fact, I’m convinced, that under a microscope, you could see little trophies painted on the successful ones

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  17. And in recent years, Russia has been increasing its exploitation of oil and minerals in the arctic circle, while we have been falling behind in both the technologies and the infrastructure investments necessary to exploit the oil and mineral wealth in this part of the world. By way of example, Russia has the world’s largest fleet of ice breakers. A larger ice breaking fleet would have both economic and national security advantages to the US.

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    1. Yes it would. We can build them bigger and better. We know how the Russians build theirs. We have a lot of 3d material modeling software. All we really need is to release our nuclear energy industry. And push that Uranium One investigation to the prosecution phase.

      Mueller? Mueller?

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      1. Yes, I have long thought we should design a handful of standardized nuclear power plants and scatter them throughout the US instead of custom building each one. This would massively bring down the design, maintenance and operating costs and make approval and permitting much easier.

        Further to your original point, I think we already have the propulsion systems in service in both our aircraft carrier and submarine fleets.

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      1. My understanding is that no vessels have transited the Northwest Passage in the past 2 years, due (cough, cough — Bite it, Warmists!) the Passage being choked with ice in recent years.

        But your point is a good one. In future years, when the Sun is more active, the Passage will be a valuable route for shipping.

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          1. You mean talking about sailing through it?

            Or talking about not being able to sail through it?

            I’ve watched documentaries of vessels going through, both large icebreakers or science vessels, and a small sailboat. The French documentary film makers, in particular, seem fascinated with the Northwest Passage, northern Canada, and Greenland.

            But when they air these shows, they don’t bother to mention anything off- narrative, like that nobody has done it recently.

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  18. This Greenland business is all about national security, and keeping China and Russia out of the country. In short, China and Russia have been working together for years to gain control of the Arctic. It’s not just about untapped resources (although it’s certainly part of it), but building shipping lanes and submarine routes outside of US control/influence.

    This editorial in The Hill (of all places) offers excellent insight into the Arctic from a military perspective. Strongly recommended reading it. I’ll quote the relevant part about Greenland:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/443324-china-russia-move-into-the-arctic-and-put-us-at-risk

    “These officials see Chinese investment in Greenland’s mines as an attempt to corner the market on rare-earth minerals, to say nothing of being a recipe for environmental disaster. In a worst-case scenario, a Chinese-backed Greenland someday could even reconsider allowing the U.S. access to the Thule early warning and missile tracking facility, and use the facility for Chinese submarines instead. These officials see Chinese investment in Iceland as an attempt to lock in access to Arctic shipping route infrastructure, and even as a way to peel away a NATO ally. They see China’s attempt to change the governance narrative in the Arctic as a challenge to Arctic state control of their territories and EEZs.”

    For those who want to do a deep dive into US Arctic strategy, the Department of Defense put out a report on US Arctic strategy in June 2019 (.pdf warning).

    https://media.defense.gov/2019/Jun/06/2002141657/-1/-1/1/2019-DOD-ARCTIC-STRATEGY.PDF

    And Mike Pompeo made a speech in May 2019 declaring that the US was going to be more involved in the Arctic moving forward. Expect to hear a lot more about the Arctic whether Greenland becomes part of the US or not.

    https://www.apnews.com/f269d3f91c9b42f8abbe54a27598feb4

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      1. You guy have to see this article, from 2013.
        The new attempt at a gov’t in Greenland “fell” (they threw out the President) because they were worried about the Chinese mining in Greenland.
        And Shell was going to drill, close to Russia, but the USA stopped it, because they did not have a plan in place for a massive cleanup in case there was a spill.
        Ergo, if citizens on Greenland KNOW they have to tap resources to pay the bill, yet they are socially conscious and want to be as “clean” as possible = the USA is natural choice.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/15/greenland-government-oil-mining-resources?CMP=share_btn_tw

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        1. Yeah. I feel bad for the Greenlanders who have become a pawn in the global game between US, China, or Russia, but realistically, China and Russia aren’t going to relent. At least the US would offer Constitutional rights, some degree of independence, and more environmental protection.

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    1. Space and Greenland mentioned in the DoD report I posted above:

      “Air and space assets are especially crucial for the Arctic region due to its vast distances
      and minimal land and maritime infrastructure. Air Force mission sets in the Arctic range from
      missile defense and power projection to space situational awareness and search and
      rescue…Assets at Clear, Alaska, and Thule, Greenland, are uniquely positioned for supporting
      space surveillance and satellite control networks, tracking tens of thousands of objects in orbit
      daily”

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      1. Polar orbit satellites – especially used by ground imaging radar satellites and “spy” satellites – and probably Molniya orbit bodies (used by Russia) would be best tracked by these northern radar stations. Optimal Situation awareness.

        Just to give a taste, here’s the capabilities description for Space Fence:

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    2. Better for launches for spy satellites and comm satellites that are going into polar orbit, to see the whole world.

      But the weather is probably not good there for rocket launches.

      Maybe detection of enemy missiles coming over the pole, and launching interceptors against them, or basing for the new technology, surface-based energy beam weapons?

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  19. Wonderful posts, tremendous ideas here. I’m of several minds on the matter. I don’t mind having Greenland, but WE GOTTA FREE PUERTO RICO TO BE ITS OWN NATION. It’s not good for the USA to have Puerto Rico.

    I think Greenland would never be material for a State. But Greenland could be a Territory much better that P R ever will. How could we structure the deal with Denmark and Greenland?

    I figure Trump to be generous to people and construct a win-win to cover future developments, and de-fuse any ideas the US cheated anyone. Offer Denmark cash plus minerals royalty overriding interest on oil/gas of say, 2%. That is 2% royalty off the top of sales. Next, offer Greenland’s citizens an undivided inheritance pool of 15% oil/gas royalty. [Did I read above that Denmark transferred minerals to Greenlanders? But forbids private land ownership?]

    Royalties will be limited to current Greenlanders and their descendants, and new citizens as Greenlanders might allow. Petroleum resources can support that kind of royalty owned by private individuals. All the other minerals might require different structuring. I recommend deeding parcels of land over the Greenlanders too.

    This plan puts Greenlanders and their self-interest as drivers of development. The transfer sale document can exclude the EPA, Interior Dept, and all other American political tentacles from getting into Greenland.

    I’m getting excited. Freedom!!

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    1. What if the Kingdom of Denmark decided they wanted to be a Republic? Especially because…..as a Republic, they could qualify to be a US State? That would make Greenland a US Territory….

      Denmark’s population is about 5.8 million, which is close to our 19th most populous state, Maryland. Would you rather have Copenhagen or Baltimore among your capital cities?

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        1. Yeah, very funny……except that, for Denmark, it just might work. It’s the right size, it’s culturally homogenous, it’s not known for anything in WWII, it’s never been fully Communist, they’re the right distance from Russia, and their alternative might be a succession crisis.

          It is, admittedly, a far-out idea…..but it’s nearly the only country in Europe where it’s not completely impossible.

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        2. There are roughly 50 countries in Europe. Our least populated states are Wyoming (578K) and Vermont (626K). We can take that as a lower floor for allowing two Senators and a Representative, and thus for statehood. That would cut Malta, Iceland, Andorra, and the like — leaving 44 possibles. Our most populous states are California (40M), Texas (29M), Florida (21M), NY (20M), and Pennsylvania (13M) — and, presumably, nobody could possibly agree to adding that much of a headache…..which eliminates 12 more.

          The 32 European “state-sized” countries that could possibly be added as states would be: Belgium, Greece, Czech, Portugal, Sweden, Azerbaijan, Hungary, Belarus, Austria, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Serbia, Denmark, Finland Slovakia, Norway, Ireland, Croatia, Georgia, Bosnia, Armenia, Albania, Lithuania, Moldova, North Macedonia, Slovenia, Latvia, Kosovo, Estonia, Cyprus, Montenegro, and Luxembourg.

          Azerbaijan, Belarus, Finland, Georgia, Armenia, Lithuania, Moldova, Latvia, and Estonia would be seen as very provocative to Russia. Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, North Macedonia, Kosovo, and Montenegro would drop us right back into the Balkans. Cyprus is currently partitioned. Luxembourg (the smallest to qualify) is known as a money-laundering and banking haven. Belgium is EU Central. Switzerland has managed to maintain continuity throughout the Napoleonic wars, WWI, WWII, and everything else by being tight, independent bastards — they’d be quite the catch, but there’s just no way.

          Which leaves Greece, Czech, Portugal, Sweden, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, Denmark, Norway, Ireland, and Slovenia.

          Just spitballin’ — especially if Denmark approached us……they’re one of the few European nations that could conceivably become a state.

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          1. Australia would be better, much as I hate to admit it. Monster mineral wealth, strategically critical blah, blah. During obummas time there was a petition to the White House to annex us. Apparently if enough people sign a petition they have to consider it. Bunghole said no. Only sensible thing he ever did

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        3. No Europe. No Europeans. They already have too much influence over our mass transit and bicycle lanes. Portland has modeled its “choo choo trains” after Europes and there are green boxes and bicycle lanes all over the city. And our taxes pay for all that garbage.

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    2. If you look at Alaska’s tax structure, the vast majority of their state services are paid for with excises taxes on petroleum and mining, with lesser amounts from fisheries, alcohol, tobacco and gaming.

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      1. According to Sarah Palin’s book (Going Rogue maybe) when she was gov. of Alaska they had all the Alaskan citizens get a portion of the oil & gas profits…something I wish the feds &/or states would do in the lower 48!

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      1. Green(land) Acres is the place to be.
        Ice livin’ is the life for me.
        Fresh glaciers spreadin’ out so far and wide
        Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside.

        New York is where I’d rather stay.
        I catch cold freezing here all day,
        I just adore a penthouse view.
        Dah-ling I love you but give me Park Avenue.

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  20. “Wanna Buy Greenland?”

    _______________

    Well, the question you kind of have to ask is, why not?

    I mean, it’s there.

    You certainly don’t want anyone else (Russia, China, Lichtenstein…) to buy it.

    I’ve thought of buying it many times myself.

    Who hasn’t?

    It’s green land.

    I understand that’s the best kind.

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  21. Wow, acquiring Greenland would be yuuuge and the reactions on the left are already priceless. We’re going to need some English translations for those cities and towns though, how many Americans can pronounce them as is? 😄

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  22. From this morning’s Empire Report
    *http://empirereportnewyork.com/

    Trump wants to buy Greenland — But Denmark says the island is “not for sale.”

    Flashback:

    And HuffPo for good measure:

    08/17/2019 02:42 am ET Updated 3 hours ago
    New York Daily News Reworks Iconic Headline To Mock Donald Trump’s Greenland Idea
    Trump’s hometown tabloid poked fun at his reported interest in buying the world’s biggest island.
    headshot
    By Lee Moran
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/new-york-daily-news-donald-trump-greenland_n_5d579c9ce4b0eb875f2415e5

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  23. Man it’s a great time to be alive!

    Learning from Greenland
    President Trump may not buy the autonomous Danish territory, but America can take a lesson from its experience with bureaucrat-planned housing.
    Nolan Gray
    August 19, 2019
    https://www.city-journal.org/trump-greenland

    Last week, President Trump made unusual news by openly considering the purchase of Greenland from Denmark. Though a land deal—even one involving an autonomous Danish territory, not a New York skyscraper—seems fitting for a former real estate mogul, Greenlandic and Danish leaders alike greeted the proposal with derision. Besides, the idea could prove illegal, absent the support of Greenlanders themselves.

    Private land ownership in Greenland is forbidden, a prohibition that has shaped the Arctic country’s housing market, which differs dramatically from that of the United States. Nearly half of Greenlanders, for instance, live in state-managed rentals, while 99 percent of Americans live in privately owned or managed units. But Greenland offers an interesting case study for those housing reformers on the left who have recently expressed renewed interest in public housing.

    . . . Even in Greenland, though, public-housing problems are typical: wait lists run for decades, structural design remains monotonous and anti-urban, and maintenance woes persist. Such issues force most migrants to seek employer-owned housing. Indeed, similar woes with the American experience—though less constrained by extreme weather or isolation—have given rise to a new consensus around housing vouchers, which permit working families to decide where and how they live.

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        1. This is a much easier deal than we thought.
          CIA values Greenland at 2.4 billion.
          I did an off the top of head calculation.
          BEFORE the Obama years, our historical average interest rate was 7%.
          Money doubles at this rate every 10.2yrs. (Law of 72).
          Therefore, if Truman offered 100 million in 1946, let’s follow the numbers.
          1956 = 200 million
          1966 = 400 million
          1976 = 800 million
          1986 = 1.6 billion
          1996 = 3.2 billion
          2006 = 6.4 billion
          2016 = 12.8 billion
          2019 = about 17 billion
          I’m willing to make it an even 20 billion.
          What say you, Denmark, who might get 10 billion (but who owes the US taxpayer at least 30 billion for delinquent payments to NATO)???
          What say you, citizens of Greenland, who might get 10 billion/56,000 residents = $178,571.43 EACH.
          Hmmmmmm……

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      1. The fact that Greenland has essentially been a socialist state with locals eeking out a subsistence living and trying to get free of Denmark’s protectivist nativism (Hmm, similar policies to the U.S. policy toward Native Indian tribes and reservations much???) means that there is at least some pent up local energy AGAINST staying with Denmark. Like all things socialist, the left always seems noisier than the majority, and I’m sure that’s the case with Greenland. The moocher class I think is likely the ones with the political clout there. But a capital city with only 16k people, I suspect political opinions can be swayed pretty easily.

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        1. Since the big companies and Asian/3rd world fisheries have overfished the northern waters, making a living is tough.

          Just read a book, Shipping News, about life in neighboring Newfoundland. It’s not easy living in those climates without a job.

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          1. Heck yeah! It ain’t easy living anywhere without a job. Just check out Appalachia. But it’s worse when the climate is against you and you are wishing for a little global warming.

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        2. Big indicator to me was the ousting of their first real President in 2013.
          They threw him out because they thought he was too cozy with the Chinese.
          True, English company wanted to mine, but the Chinese company wanted to take over from English co.
          They have their subsidy nd have lived off the tit of Denmark.
          Many comments from those Intuits who want to keep traditional custom of hunt/fish for a living………… but subsidized by Denmark because hunt and fish does not pay for what they need…..
          ……. let alone an aggressive stance from Russia/China.
          They want to keep the old ways, don’t want to change. I like customs and traditions, but now?????
          Nuclear powers are sniffing around. Time to make a decision.

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  24. Remember, with Trump, Impossible is the Starting Point!

    Access Denied
    http://thedailygrind.news/2019/08/19/greenland-and-the-second-amendment/

    Headline

    Sorry Mr. Trump, Greenland is not for sale

    The Grind

    Danish officials confirmed that the island of Greenland is ‘not for sale’ after President Trump expressed interest in purchasing it.

    “Greenland is not for sale, but Greenland is open for trade and cooperation with other countries, including the USA,” said Greenland Premier Kim Kielsen.

    In the past, interest in controlling Greenland has been related to its strategic location and to its natural resources. The United States has sought to access these resources in the past (so has Canada, Russia, Norway, and China).

    Some of those resources are easier to access now that global warming has caused its glaciers to start melting.

    The Details

    Greenland is an autonomous Danish territory located between the North Atlantic and Arctic oceans. The territory has a population of 56,000 and is about one-fourth the size of the United States.

    Nearly 80% of the island is covered with ice.

    While it is possible for a government to purchase a territory, such a deal would require consent from the US, Denmark, and Greenland’s citizens.

    “If he is truly contemplating this, then this is final proof, that he has gone mad,” said Danish politician Soren Espersen. “The thought of Denmark selling 50,000 citizens to the United States is completely ridiculous.”

    The US offered to buy Greenland for $100 million after WWII, but Denmark refused. By CIA estimates, Greenland is now worth about $2.4 billion.

    President Trump plans to meet with Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen during his first formal visit to Denmark next month, but the visit is unrelated to his interest in Greenland.

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