Dear KMAG: 20190707 Open Topic


This very special
Seeing the Subversion SUNDAY
open thread

is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody
to post whatever they feel they would like
to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KAG!KMAG world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said,
comment on people’s comments.
Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

See the January 1st daily thread for the rules of the road,
which are few but important.

Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:


Subversion : attempt to transform the established social order and its structures

Subversion (Latin subvertere: overthrow) refers to a process by which the values and principles of a system in place are contradicted or reversed, an attempt to transform the established social order and its structures of power, authority, hierarchy, and norm (social).

Subversion can be described as an attack on the public morale and, “the will to resist intervention are the products of combined political and social or class loyalties which are usually attached to national symbols. Following penetration, and parallel with the forced disintegration of political and social institutions of the state, these loyalties may be detached and transferred to the political or ideological cause of the aggressor.”



Jesus’ Prayer & Judas’ Betrayal

Then he went off by himself, about a stone’s throw away, and falling on his knees, prayed in these words—“Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me—but it is not my will, but yours, that must be done.”

And an angel from Heaven appeared, strengthening him. He was in agony and prayed even more intensely so that his sweat was like great drops of blood falling to the ground. Then he got to his feet from his prayer and walking back to his disciples, he found them sleeping through sheer grief.

“Why are you sleeping?” he said to them. “You must get up and go on praying that you may not have to face temptation.”

While he was still speaking a crowd of people arrived, led by the man called Judas, one of the twelve. He stepped up to Jesus to kiss him.

“Judas, would you betray the son of Man with a kiss?” said Jesus to him.

Luke 22:41-48

Seeing the Subversion Sunday

From the Garden of Eden to end of time as we know it, the constant of subversion will always be with us. In the book of Revelation there is a description of a war in Heaven where, in his rebellion, satan apparently brought one third of the angels over to his side.

Moses had his Korah. David had his Absalom. And Jesus had his Judas. We can train ourselves to see this pattern. Perhaps even catch it in action within the structures we find ourselves placed in during the seasons of our lives.

We’ve touched on the Lavender Mafia within the Catholic hierarchy. And the communist takeover of the Chinese church. There has been mention of the way the Russian Orthodox church works closely with the Soviet-communist flavor of totalitarianism. We’ve had some discussion about the marxist sympathizers recent moves within the leadership of the Southern Baptist Church.

And yet church structures are not the only organizations to be subverted by malicious infiltration. Government and non-government organizations have always been targets as well. Any influential voice can be expected to be a target.

As with any organized power-brokering enterprise, those best at subversion are going to be scanning the populace to identify anyone at any level that might have the power to influence others now, or in the future. Those will be targeted for recruitment or discrediting, depending on the response. The pawns of the mind control media are representative of those recruited for subversion. Both as subjects and perpetuators of it.


So, what is to be our response to seeing the subversion around us?

It’s a question that can be studied in the light of the character of God and examples found in the Scriptures. When Adam and Eve betrayed their Creator, the response was immediate loss of fellowship but with a clear path for restoration given. When the Israelites worshipped other gods in a drunken party while Moses was on Mt. Sinai (being given the 10 commandments!) a similar pattern of loss and reconciliation repeated.

Many Christians have suffered torture at the hands of communists because they would not betray others in the church. Others broke under torture and did betray.


The suffering church deeply understands the weakness of men and the reality of betrayal. Sometimes betrayal done willingly, sometimes betrayal in weakness, under threat of harm to loved ones or under actual torture.

Believers so betrayed have often found the grace to turn their hearts to God and learned to forgive and then live in the joy of the Lord, free from bitterness. This is beyond human ability and one of the more convincing proofs of the Divine.

Jesus gave us a parable to help us understand the divine timetable for dealing with evildoers.

Here is another illustration Jesus used: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer sowing good seed in his field; but one night as he slept, his enemy came and sowed thistles among the wheat. When the crop began to grow, the thistles grew too.

“The farmer’s men came and told him, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that choice seed is full of thistles!’

“‘An enemy has done it,’ he exclaimed.

“‘Shall we pull out the thistles?’ they asked.

‘No,’ he replied. ‘You’ll hurt the wheat if you do. Let both grow together until the harvest, and I will tell the reapers to sort out the thistles and burn them, and put the wheat in the barn.’” 

Matthew 13:24-29

Our eagerness to uproot the evil that we see is natural. And yet the example in scripture is for us to take our distress to the Lord and get His answers for how to proceed. To take matters in our own hands is to open ourselves up to the same spirit that created the evil in the first place.

The gift of sight must necessarily be paired with the gift of nearness to the heart of God lest we become the next tyrant that replaces the last tyrant.

Think *3


“For God is my witness, how I long for all of you
with the affection of Christ Jesus.
And this is my prayer:
that your love may increase ever more and more in knowledge
and every kind of perception,
to discern what is of value, so that you may be pure
and blameless for the day of Christ,
filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ
for the glory and praise of God.”
Philippians 1:8-11

381 thoughts on “Dear KMAG: 20190707 Open Topic

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  3. THREAD – click on tweet

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  5. Red Pills distributed heavily!!!!

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      1. “The report includes assignment histories and details of accusations. Also included are those who were assigned to or living within the Dioceses of Gallup and Tucson before the formation of the Diocese of Phoenix in 1969.”

        I posted link to the article for a reason……….. (it’s in the tweet)

        So that those who read headlines only would read the details…………..

        Here’s a cache for links with info on size of definition of etc a DIOCESE

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          1. TOP of the article:

            “A Phoenix law firm released a report detailing sexual abuse allegations against 109 Catholic priests in the state going back decades.”

            What are you trying to ascertain? One would have to have the report to know how far back the report goes, if it covers those who have since transferred out of Arizona (probably does), and if a data point of HOW MANY PRIESTS ARE IN AZ NOW would have any relevance to the report.

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            1. one of my boring personal tales………the last time I went to confession was decades ago, 6th grade because I said…blah blah and I had impure thoughts. Figured I’d get a few Hail Mary’s and that’d be it. No. The priest asked who I was.
              Alarm bells started banging in my head. That’s not right. He’s not supposed to ask that and holy sh*t I sure don’t want my parents to know.
              I ran out of the confessional as fast as my oxfords could go and never went in again. The end!

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              1. At the Catholic grade school were I attended 1st through 8th grade, looking back now I’m pretty sure the nun teachers consciously enabled the priests by frequently telling us kids that priests were “the embodiment of Jesus Christ on Earth” and were to be completely revered and respected at all times.
                And the nuns (some of us referred to them as skunks) would teach that simply looking at “dirty magazines” was as much a “mortal sin” as acting out with those pictures and had to be confessed every time we did it.

                The worst aspect of this is it still goes on in The Catholic Church. Priests are still being caught abusing children.

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      2. No where does the article say that all of the victims were children. In fact, as more and more information comes out, while there were a smattering of true pedophiles, the majority of victims were young men through puberty up to their early 20s. Child molesters, yes are the worst of the worst, but when men of the cloth abuse ANYONE it should be grounds for laicization. And it is a result of an abusive homosexual network in power.

        Catholics are not blind to this.

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            1. Hmmmm ….. MAYBE His plan is …. to give this nation over to another people?

              Kinda Old Testament, but then again….did God change….or…

              Did we?

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              1. It’s funny, on one of Michael Voris’s recent videos with a panel, one of the priests that was also a victim of abuse said that in the Old Testament, when the leaders went the wrong way, God handed them to their enemies and new leaders came to the fore. Maybe that is on the horizon.

                As for giving this nation to other people…not going there. I have my reasons.

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              1. It’s been abused so often, IMO it should be destroyed and abolished. The whole idea of confessing one’s “sins” to a stranger is repugnant and barbaric. And we criticize Muslims for clinging to old traditions from medieval times.


              2. Is the decision up to Francis? I’m not sure how much power the Pope actually has …. I know it’s a WHOLE, WHOLE lot…


            1. Un, no. That is not in the cards. It’s a Sacrament and always will be, When done right, there is nothing more freeing than a good confession. However, the enemy of God will use all tools at disposal to cause chaos. So, maybe educating the kids as to what to watch for and getting parents to be less compliant might be in the mix.

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              1. Um, the Sacrament of PENANCE (the real name) is required before Eucharist, Confirmation, Holy Orders, Marriage. Changing it is a no go.

                People are headed for the exits because they don’t want to be inconvenienced as the Faith is very inconvenient to the world. Some of us are sticking it out when others are taking a powder. There’s always more to it.

                And we’re gaining more every year than those falling away. And they can always come back. Prodigals are never turned away.

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              2. I think that restoring the ability to remain anonymous is part of what creates safety. But the main thing that creates safety is when the leadership of the church walk in true purity.

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              3. Sorry, but I strongly disagree that Confession needs to remain a pillar of The Catholic Church. I also disagree, and so does that and many other news articles, with your opinion that attendance is growing in the Church.
                But as always, to each their own. IMO, anyone who wants to give their hard earned money to a religious organization that has and continues to victimize many innocent people can choose to do so. I won’t support it with my dollars.

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              4. Confession is not a pillar. It is a Sacrament. The pillars are Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the Magisterium. Penance, the real name of the sacrament, was given to us by Christ whether that is acknowledged or not.

                It is what is cited by demons in Exorcism as what blocks them from being able to see the sins of men.

                If we were properly Catechized this would be known.

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              5. LOL! As it’s been more than 50 years since I’ve had anything to do with The Catholic Church, you’ll have to excuse my verbage. But, semantics notwithstanding, the fact of the matter remains The Catholic Church is in big trouble nowadays and is losing membership fast. The loony liberal Pope and his screwball edicts aren’t helping, either.

                In any case, I could care less if the Church survives or not. I’ve always felt as an adult that people attend Church on Sundays to confess their sins that they only repeat on Mondays and that includes knifing their fellow man in the back to get ahead financially.

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              6. I will join you in having a big problem with those persons that find encouragement to continue to sin by taking the forgiveness of God for granted, but I will always remember the tears in the eyes of Jesus for those who he laid his life down for. Our lack of holiness is not due to his lack of effort.

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              7. Oh, and speaking of pillars….. LOL!

                “The 7 Pillars of Catholic Spirituality: Confession, Contemplation, The Mass, The Scriptures, Fasting, Spiritual Reading, The Rosary”


              8. (Little Sigh)
                Once someone deludes theirself into believing whatever B.S. nonsense is fed to them, it’s usually impossible to change their mind with facts. I’ll try to educate you no further, Deplorable Patriot as it is now clear you are a hopeless case.


    1. Interesting question but he’s had 12 years to make sure they are safely tucked away as his get out alive insurance policy. I doubt they would be in one of his houses he seldom occupied.

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      1. Neon Revolt has been absent for a while – why – dunno – but, he is very thorough in his research – imho


          1. Oh, thanks church – perhaps – it is I – who is behind the eight ball…however – sometimes, I am having difficulty finding people and material – think this is intentional?

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              1. Thanks again, church – lots of goofy things happening lately…but, I guess they have not come after him – which is a good sign.

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  7. Just love this series of tweets about America hater Megan Rapinoe

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    1. That thread, and the comments, are gold… Ve gan Me again is really a piece of work…

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  8. “Jake Tapper And TIME Attack Ben Garrison After Cartoonist Invited To White House

    Conservative political cartoonist Ben Garrison’s celebration over an invite to Thursday’s Social Media Summit at the White House was quickly muted after CNN’s Jake Tapper and TIME Magazine used a flimsy smear by the Anti Defamation League (ADL) to suggest he’s anti-Semitic. ”

    more at link:

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    1. Soros and Rothchild are CABAL…………

      and it’s NOT anti-semitic to say so…………………

      The ADL can shove it.

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