Dear MAGA: 20190611 Open Topic

This TO STOP THEM FROM STOPPING OUR MOVEMENT TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

It would also be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

MAGA Mom had a most excellent summary of something that has happened.

Don’t BLAMECAST about it – please – that just feeds into it. But I want people here to understand what has happened. MAGA Mom did the NUMBERS and they explain something.

MAGA Mom

June 10, 2019 at 18:56

Let me recap and see if I have a grasp on the situation:

1) Thread on actual censorship, deplatforming and silencing conservative voices, groups & opinions: 61 comments

2) Open Thread: huge debate on being nice and self censoring, name calling, humor v. growing a thicker skin, etc.: 80+ (as I stopped counting) & 27 comments on this topic on this page so far

Hmmm…priorities??? distractions???

Think about where we are spending our time, our energy and our focus, our combined brain power!

I am not saying I am upset with BakoCarl for starting the debate (or anyone else, for that matter!) or that the topic is unimportant. I happen to agree to an extent in huge part because I think certain name calling is distracting and ineffective. Whether it is nice or not I will leave up to others as my mission is not to be “nice” but to MAGA as I said in my comment on the previous page and name calling or disparaging people on physical characteristics or on being gay/lesbian is a turn off to many and therefore decreases our effectiveness as we loose audience to truth and facts re political candidates and issues.

(https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/dear-maga-20190610-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-170240)

My point is, So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do. Why!?! What should be our actual focus right now?! We need to spend as much time analyzing, sharing facts, links, researching, synergysing on possible political action as we do sharing our feelings and opinions.

Let’s harness our brainpower and put at least as much time and thought into the censorship being implemented by others as we do on self censorship & appropriate names and criticism for our political opponents.

And Please don’t tell me that I am just being sensitive as I have fibromyalgia and would feel that you are being mean as well as ridiculing and belittling all of those in my condition if you associate negative connotations with sensitivity. 😉

MAGA Mom, June 10, 2019 at 18:56

Now – if I even talk about any of this stuff, to some extent that action falls, MOST IRONICALLY, into what MAGA Mom is talking about. And when I was posting about this stuff earlier – YES – it was exactly what she is talking about.

And LET ME TELL YOU THIS – which REALLY PROVES what she is talking about.

I have been intending for SEVERAL DAYS to talk about the NEXT PHASE OF CENSORSHIP.

I have critical information about this. I tried to do a BIG POST to explain it earlier, and got all kinds of bandwidth problems that made me lose EVERYTHING. I think I ended up calling it “Placeholder Friday” in frustration, publishing a near-empty daily thread.

So I was going to fix it on Monday. But no. I spent all day on a sideshow, much of which was (ironically) MY OWN DOING. Yes. I was – you might say, “Sideshow Wolf”! 😀

HOWEVER, TheseTruths responded by stating something very important which captures why I have wasted my time on stuff I didn’t really want to do:

TheseTruths

June 10, 2019 at 20:17

“So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do.”

This topic IS about the political enemy and their methods and what we need to do. A number of the posts, including mine, have pointed out that they are trying to suppress our free speech with demands of political correctness and censorship. It doesn’t hurt to be reminded of that and have a heightened awareness so we don’t get inadvertently sucked in to their schemes. That kind of psychological preparedness is part of the battle.

TheseTruths, June 10, 2019 at 20:17

This is exactly correct. We ARE in the censorship fight, and BY GOD, IT’S ON OUR SOIL.

Bluntly, we are taking one on the chin – but we are taking it well. Look at it that way. We have an actual demonstration of how they cannot effectively undermine us, but they CAN get us to undermine ourselves.

This is why I was forced to warn people about how the other side will DESPERATELY try to shut us down, shut us up, and make us ineffective, by influence – EXPERT influence – on individual members. Stuff you will likely not recognize, and may NEVER recognize.

And I will NOT let it happen. So I had to inform you about CRUEL REALITIES OF THIS WORLD.

I had to WARN PEOPLE. Because I know what’s coming, and it’s UGLY.

The other side is spending MILLIONS OF DOLLARS – ON THE GROUND – IN REAL LIFE – to shut our side up. RIGHT NOW. I am literally WATCHING THEM do it. LITERALLY. The White Hats know *exactly* what I’m talking about.

Remember what they did to JIM JORDAN in Ohio? That cost them millions of dollars and ultimately FAILED, but you can bet that a shitload (pardon my French) of money was spent to INFLUENCE PEOPLE to make that happen. Individuals. Influenced, positioned, and manipulated. Using LAWYERS. Expensive LAWYERS.

And lawyers, psychologists, and even rat-bastard communists in beater junkie stake-out cars cost money.

They are doing it now. EVERYWHERE. And some of that money is designated to influence YOU. So think very carefully about what the social media puts in front of you, because THEY THINK ABOUT IT VERY CAREFULLY.

Twitter is so much more than you think it is. The DEVIL is in details of CODE that HIDE from oversight or legal discovery.

Most of it is programmed – automated – but not all of it. When they see a point where the economics of influencing specific people needs a human touch, it gets a human touch.

Here is a TIP. They love to use OLD PEOPLE, SICK PEOPLE, and PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. Those people are very real, and very deserving of our sympathy and help.

BUT….

Your response makes you PREDICTABLE. And that is all they need.

“Wounded hostage ambush.” I use this analogy all the time, because they use this method all the time.

We are at WAR. So when you go to the hospital, wear an invisible AR-15 on your back. Wear your SPIRIT GUN and watch the fuck out. Because they are watching you.


Now – I close with a VICTORY. We had a big win today.

Not here – but where it COUNTS BIG.

Oh, yeah. This lady was RIGHT.

SO – here is what I’m going to do.

I am going to start working on my censorship post, which CONTINUES the discussion of Daughn’s censorship post. That post should be ready by morning.

We are FIGHTING BACK. And we are fighting back NOW.

W

BURN IN HELL YOU ENEMIES OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH

569 thoughts on “Dear MAGA: 20190611 Open Topic

  1. Note on revealing too much personal info: Our treehouse is welcoming, friendly, relaxing, even cozy and I hope it never changes. We all reveal personal info to some degree or another when we post/comment and as long as we are doing that in an informed way by choice it is a ok thing to do. Just make sure you are doing it knowingly.

    I have Zero idea what the stats are for this blog but here are some stats on the other treehouse for perspective that might be eye opening to those who were/are there.

    (Note: this post is Not About the other place – just using it to help give an informed perspective. And yes they do generate a little income from ads. Figured that helped supplement time off from a regular job, giving more time to write and research so I was never at all upset by that! Hoping the thread doesn’t go sideways about the blog itself as the point is the example of the readership being MUCH bigger than the commenting group, esp. the regular commenting group. Fingers crossed that we don’t spend the day going sideways…)

    “Provided by Alexa ranking, theconservativetreehouse.com has ranked 4099th in United States and 22,829 on the world. theconservativetreehouse.com reaches roughly **141,409** users per day and delivers about 4,242,280 users each month. The domain theconservativetreehouse.com uses a Commercial suffix and it’s server(s) are located in US with the IP number 192.0.78.25 and it is a .com domain.” (emphasis added)
    http://www.cmolink.com/site/theconservativetreehouse.com

    If I recall correctly, the numbers were higher as was the ranking, in late ’15 and throughout ’16.

    More stats – 54,573 Daily Unique visitors!!! over 1.5 million Unique visitors a month!!!!!!!! Some of the numbers could be slightly inflated due to use of VPNs but that still only accounts for a small portion of double counting some readers/visitors
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com.cutercounter.com

    this maybe eye opening to some who felt like it was a group of a few hundred friends, sitting around cozy den, sipping hot chocolate and chatting. Many, Many eyes and ears listening. This might explain why we occasionally see some unfamiliar screen names and think, troll, when really they indeed have been long time readers who rarely post which is why they weren’t recognized.

    Again, not saying to not share, feel comfortable and enjoy the fellowship as well as be part of the MAGA Think Tank here at WQTH – just be wise, aware and informed.

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  2. On privacy: Someone in our circle learned that their profile on some people search said that they are even related to the father of one of their sister-in-laws. That is far out ridiculous invasive.

    Person is in the process of scrubbing all ways to identify us, siblings,, children, etc., from the internet, addresses available on local gov websites or anywhere. This actually includes putting assets into a trust. Huge job.

    We are getting new computers because MS will soon no longer support Windows 7. I wanted to go with Linux, but apparently aren’t for convenience purposes, getting Proton email addresses- Swiss privacy, etc.

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    1. Well, the marketeers, the government and the leftists (Øbama’s super-computer data bank) have the goods on all of us and everyone remotely connected to us.

      A couple of years ago…
      – I got mail at my address for my former husband and we had been divorced for nearly 15 years and he had re-married and in a different city/state from our former residence.
      – I got mail addressed to his new wife – in her maiden name.
      – Someone used my credit card number at a gas/car wash/convenience store in Chicago one labor day weekend. The bank caught onto them before they got more than about $72.
      – Someone sitting in a student apartment outside a local university opened a credit card account in my maiden name which I had not used since 1967!

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      1. A few years ago, I got a solicitation phone call from my old university. In the interim, I had lived overseas a couple of times, changed my name, had never contacted the University for any reason, and was currently living across the country. . Out of pure astonishment I said…how in the world did you ever find me!?

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          1. Me also. SIL was in Japan about 3-4 months prior to his credit card being exploited by someone in Japan.

            Several years ago I couldn’t pay for groceries because the bank had just put a freeze on my card and I wasn’t yet informed…someone was trying to purchase several $k worth of electronics on line with my number. The list goes on with people I know.

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              1. We use $$$$CASH$$$

                We have killed off most of our credit cards except for one for use in emergencies so we have zero trouble.

                Hubby does pay bills On-Line which makes me go ballistic, however we use LINUX so have had no trouble there yet either.

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      1. Sounds like somebody in the family decided to self-appoint as the privacy czar, after discovering there ain’t much left. I’m sure it’s OK.

        One of the way these companies get clients is by scaring people with errors and picayune revelations. My policy is to not even look. Caring about the stupidity and wrongness just gives it reality.

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      2. Pretty much. I will not allow the locals here to do a biopsy on my glands…waiting it out and if I think it’s longer than sufficient for either a bad infection to manifest or clear up, then I will either go to the teaching hospital in Chicago or downstate. Biopsies are only as telling as the pathologist is knowledgeable. After the locals taking Several urine samples and telling me I have blood in my urine, and then seeing the UroGynos downstate who know how to take a sample, I’m convinced teaching hospitals are the way to go. Thanks for asking.

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    1. Yes, the Dem led Congress lacks the moral scruples to refuse bribes. That’s a given. But it doesn’t mean they deserve a pay raise. Pay raise for what? They’ve done nothing this year except bash and harass Our President.

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    2. $4500 won’t make a difference.
      Just for giggles, I’ll take the opposite side.
      I would be willing to pay 435 Congressmen + 100 Senators @ 10 million a year = 5.35 billion.
      Heck, I would be willing to finagle the budget to give them all a staff budget of another 10 million/yr.
      Today, we have passive beta types, no spine, who are supposed to be leaders, but merely do the bidding of those who are more powerful/richer.
      If we pay CEO wages, we get CEO’s.
      And, at 10 million a year, a million dollar bribe…… ain’t what it used to be.
      If we coupled it with stiff penalties for campaign finance reform, and no Congressmen would cross the street, or meet under an abandoned bridge, for $250K.

      What we’re doing now does not work. Congressmen are under constant pressure to raise money, always running for Congress, far too beholden to lobbyists. If the wages are higher, we might see more turnover.

      Whaddaya think?

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      1. I think that by going for the top job the first time around, VSGPDJT skipped the games politicians have to play. If he had run for any other office, not raising money, because he wouldn’t see it as productive, would keep him out of the leadership slots.

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      2. “Whaddaya think?”

        ________________

        I think there is no amount of money which will make men MORE honest or MORE patriotic.

        Either you are, or you aren’t.

        Serving our nation is a PRIVILEGE.

        They shouldn’t get paid anything. Put some skin in the game. They’ll make plenty after they LEAVE, considering the experience and connections they will have gained, and getting paid nothing would be a terrific incentive to not STAY there until you DIE.

        There is no amount of money which will ever satisfy the greedy, certainly no amount that taxpayers would ever approve to pay our civil miscreants.

        Money is not the answer, money is the problem.

        Remove the money, and see who still remains.

        Those are the people you want serving.

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  3. H/T kalbren2r1 from PHC’s Blog

    #NewVersion #WeThePeople
    J.T. WILDE: WHERE WE GO ONE WE GO ALL (New Mix) / Patriot Anthem – THE GREAT AWAKENING WWG1WGA

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      1. glad you like it, we use the phone to blue tooth it through our car speakers and blast it while we drive doing errands! We get more positive responses than negative in a supposedly deep blue state, even in one of the “blue” cities.

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        1. Oh my I’d love to play the songs I have on my phone ☎️ (😛) by Bluetooth in the car .. I’ve heard it’s possible to use your phone like a MP3 player but you have to do that through the phones music 🎶 app … 🥺🤚 … I’m not up to snuff on that .. I need to take the time to learn that 🙂🤚❤️‼️

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          1. We use a Youtube playlist. Just open YouTube and start the playlist we made. I don’t know about music apps, the techies maybe would have more information on that.

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  4. Even as we realize the threats, We can rejoice in amd make the most of the opportunities we still have to be salt, to help preserve all that is good and righteous in this nation to help MAGA.

    Consider…Any nation whose legal system is based on Judeao/Christian ethics is one that will be safest for each individual living there. There is a grand battle being staged right now over this very fact.

    True Christianity allows the individual freedoms of choice in religion. It does not allow forced acceptance of its faith, but is offered as a free choice to each individual heart. Judeao/Christian laws are designed to preserve individual freedoms while assuring each individual’s safety.

    Our freedoms, particularly freedom of religion, must be contended for in the greatest way,

    The enemy wants us isolated and silenced to enamble tyranny’s total control.

    All of this reminds me of the story of Esther in which Mordecai told her that she must risk her life and speak out for her people because if she did not deliverance would come to the Jewish people from another source but her own life would be forfeit.

    I have been so sad that our two treehouses have been separated, and even more sad when I saw how people of faith who should know better have at times let minor differences divide us so that we fight amonourselves rather than taking on the enemy.

    Wolf remains a voice of reason and I have a lot of hope for healing of all going forward.

    Though I don’t always agree, I often still watch Fox news. Why? Because we need more Conservative voices even if they are not perfect. I try to read and visit all of the conservative sites I can….same reason. Support.

    I still read CTH. I never knew if I was banned, I stopped posting there out of respect for Sundance when I realized that I could not be real and fully communicate there without tripping over the Q rules.

    Whether Q is right or wrong I wanted the freedom to go there to learn and consider and research what was posted. Also, Q generates a sense of empowerment in seeking things out, uncovering new information, as well as fun and excitment in the search. Tiptoeing around this felt disingenuous.

    And, I don’t have the courage, commitment, or enough love to start my own blog…but I respect and appreciate those who do. Thank you Wolf❣️

    Though I cannot see you, I genuinely care for many posters on each Treehouse site. I feel as though I know you and am so grateful for that opportunity. It is a privilege to share your company and be allowed to communicate so freely.

    I hope that we can continue to educate, respect, and love one another for many years to come. To me, it remains a beautiful way for even the least of us to help MAGA.

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      1. Oh yeah, don’t forget your Spiritual AR-15 that “sideshow” Wolfmoon has issued. Keep them clean and well oiled! Find your ammo at the base of the cross and in HIS Word.

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  5. Earlier in the thread, Aubergine gave out a deserved caution about infighting here because of people speaking their minds. That would certainly damage the tree if continued. So I found some info about personal attacks during a discussion that might be useful.

    I won’t remember all this info, but for me what it boils down to is not referring to the “other” poster when having a discussion. Don’t use that poster’s name or the word “you” in the discussion. Keep strictly to the topic when presenting the issue. With a little thought, it can be done. I hope it’s helpful.

    Notice in the examples below, Bob always uses the word “you” in his attacks on Alice.

    Personal attacks during discussions focus on information that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, not addressing the point of the discussion, and present that information in a manner which could influence the result of the discussion. Some of these attacks are relatively sophisticated, while others are simply crude and abusive.

    Poisoning the well is where someone presents unrelated negative information about their opponent, with the goal of discrediting everything that their opponent says.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education.
    Bob: You’re a fascist, so clearly we shouldn’t listen to what you have to say about education.

    The credentials fallacy occurs when someone dismisses an argument and attacks its source directly, by stating that the person who made that argument doesn’t have sufficient credentials in the field being discussed.

    Alice: studies have overwhelmingly shown that you should vaccinate your children.
    Bob: You’re not a doctor, so there’s not reason for me to listen to you.

    An appeal to motive dismisses a certain stance, by questioning the motives of the person who supports it.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education.
    Bob: You’re only saying that because you want to show support for the president that you voted for.

    An appeal to hypocrisy attempts to discredit a person, by suggesting that their argument is inconsistent with their previous acts.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education.
    Bob: You clearly don’t even care about public education, since you sent your own kids to a private school.

    Tone policing focuses only on the manner in which a person makes an argument, instead of addressing the argument itself.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education. The current situation is unacceptable in many of the poorer areas of the country, and children are suffering because of it.
    Bob: Okay, okay, no need to get so worked up over these things.
    Alice: But what do you think about the situation?
    Bob: I think that you shouldn’t be so emotional about it.

    The traitorous critic fallacy involves telling a person who criticized something that they should stay away from whatever it is they are criticizing, if they don’t approve of the current situation.

    Alice: I think that as a country, we’re not spending enough on healthcare.
    Bob: Well if you don’t like it here, then you should just leave and go somewhere where they have the kind of healthcare that you want.

    The association fallacy occurs when someone is attacked based on their supposed connection to something which is unrelated to the discussion at hand.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education.
    Bob: Well, the Nazis also thought that, so you’re like the Nazis.

    The abusive fallacy occurs when an argument simply attacks a person in a direct and abusive manner, instead of addressing the point that they are trying to make.

    Alice: I think that we should increase the federal spending on education.
    Bob: I think that you’re a moron and that nobody cares about your opinion.

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      1. Is that me you are asking about? I have been lurking and partying hardy at PHC’s place. I’m back and forth between the two trees.

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    1. Excellent – I have a handy meme of these fallacies that I’ll post later. I think that the reminder about “appeal to hypocrisy” is very useful. Hypocrisy says SOME THINGS but not others. We must learn that things SAY WHAT THEY SAY, AN NOT ALWAYS OTHER THINGS.

      Anyway, I will announce here that I’m going to very soon stop paying attention to this whole larger in-fight – which I very intentionally nourished earlier – because I think we’ve raised awareness of all the necessary things. People are now individually armed with what will be needed for the rough ride ahead.

      SPIRIT OF GRUMPY CAT HAS TRAINED Y’ALL. 😉

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      1. Call me whatever you want, just don’t call me late for dinner!

        Unless, of course, it is vegetarian or vegan, in which case I’ll be down at the Sizzler for a steak, and out of earshot. 🙂

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    2. Bob is what I would call a leftist ‘attack’ troll – probably paid.

      Romney and Cruz had them on all the blogs during the primaries, and so did Obama and Clinton.

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    3. Good info. One of my *favorites* is when someone says basically the opposite of what you did, and then they say “Got it,” as in, “So you think blah, blah, blah. Got it.” No, they don’t get it. In fact, they are intentionally twisting your words for their own purposes.

      An honest discussion involves asking the other person to clarify their meaning or asking them if you’ve understood them correctly.

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        1. A kindred spirit, I cannot resist brilliant ideas (at least in my own mind), and my dad and mom tried. My worse antics happen at PHC’s place.

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            1. well at least we are not the clowns to the left or right of you! You are stuck in the middle of us though. We will be the distractions while you and husband provide surveillance and maneuver. Can I have a cigar? Always love me a good cigar. Wolf you are a good alpha wolf! You give the snarl and bite when needed and then rough house and play when the pups bounce by! You also are so patient as we chew your tail or ears too!

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  6. I took a 4 Day EST Seminar when I lived in CA. It was one of those where you don’t know anyone and I learned later that the unstated but actual objective was to break down your total belief system and leave you with nothing to replace it. It was a common thing in the 1980’s. They asked me to set a goal when I started. My goal was to learn to trust people more.
    The people attending the Seminar were highly educated leaders in S. CA. I was horrified over the 4 days to watch all of them make decisions based on emotions and winning the approval of others. They are still going on. This was recommended and paid for by the Company I worked for. EST training.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training
    I stood my ground and walked out better for attending the event.
    I did not learn to trust people more. I learned that the people in charge are as President Trump says, “Stupid People”.
    I took the follow up intensive training 2 months later and it was even more blatant.
    I went back to Scripture and started studying the Scriptures about TRUSTING PEOPLE. There are none.
    TRUST GOD is the key to everything. Do not trust other people. Do not trust yourself. Put every thought you have under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
    That was shocking. I thought we were supposed to trust each other. We are not to trust anyone but God.
    As I learned and grew by the Guidance of the Holy Spirit, I found it to be the most liberating experience of my life. That was in 1984 and I am still growing in Christ. I always will be growing and learning and I find that to be a blessing beyond compare.
    When you believe something, stand up for it, speak up for it and as you learn more change your human mind to fit the true facts you have learned as you grow.
    People are trying to protect themselves from being exposed here because they state their beliefs.
    True protection comes from God. Satan has no, NO power over you.
    Trust God. Say what you believe. It is not your job to find a human to follow. It is your job to follow God.
    It is not your job to bring others to Christ. It is your job to say why you believe in Christ and to tell others of the fact that Jesus Christ died in order to save them from sin and rose again to prove that this earth is the temporary realm and that Jesus Kingdom has come.
    Trust God. Be transparent. Know that you cannot hide from evil. Never say anything that you would not want to stand up and defend in court, even to the Supreme Court.
    Know that even if you lose in court, you stood up for what you believe and you did not compromise at all.
    If you have or do change your mind because you have learned more and grown more, then state the change and why you changed your mind.
    Trust God. Question yourself and others. Watch and Pray.

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    1. Psalm 118:8 is In the very center of the Bible.

      It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.

      and the next verse 118:9 emphasizes and reiterates it:

      It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in princes.

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          1. There seems to be argument about “what is the *literal* center of the Bible?” Assuming the Christian Bible, this can be measured different ways.

            Tipping the answer to a desirable answer gives a desirable answer.

            It’s a bit like Bible codes and certain more desperate Q proofs. Q asks us to ask whether things are coincidence. Sometimes they just are – especially when one can Ouija Board to the “best” answer.

            Numerology is fun, but it’s still numerology!

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              1. Considering the verses were numbered and added for reference and aren’t part of the original text, it’s not worth arguing about. I didn’t know it was so controversial, but like you, I just looked it up and there is a big hoo-rah over that. I still do like the message of Ps 118:8-9 a lot.

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              2. Here is another reference on that – which make sense, but only works with the KJV:

                According to independent research, the King James Version (KJV) of the Holy Bible contains 1189 chapters; Psalm 117 is the 595th; there are 594 chapters before Psalm 117, and 594 after it. Thus, it is 117, not 118, that is the center chapter of the Bible.

                The KJV has an even number of verses (31,102) and, thus, does not have a single middle verse. The “middle verses” are Psalm 103:1-2, with 15,550 verses before and after.

                Psalms 103: 1-2: A Psalm of David. Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

                Link – https://housetohouse.com/middle-verse-bible/

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    2. Great post! Two passages come to mind:

      Proverbs 3:5-6
      5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
      6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

      Isaiah 26:3
      3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

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  7. Speaking of censorship…..FB has deleted “Natural News” FB page.

    “Facebook has deleted the popular “Natural News” Facebook page according to recent reports.

    The Daily Beast reports that Facebook removed the popular Natural News Facebook page, which had nearly 3 million followers, this week. In an article posted on Infowars, the administrator of the Natural News page Mike Adams wrote: “In response to a coordinated, heavily-funded smear campaign against Natural News and myself, the Health Ranger, Facebook has now permanently banned Natural News from posting content.”

    Adams has further claimed that Natural News has been banned by Twitter, YouTube, Pinterest, Google News, Apple. Adams, who wrote about alternative medicines and natural remedies on the page writes in his article:

    “Anyone who questions the safety of toxic vaccines, 5G cell towers, geoengineering, chemotherapy or glyphosate weed killer chemicals is now maliciously attacked, smeared and de-platformed. You’re not even allowed now to talk about nutrition, anti-cancer foods or nutritional supplements without being labeled a “vitamin” website accused of pushing fake cures.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/10/facebook-deletes-natural-news-facebook-page/

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    1. NF, This is off topic. I am leaving to visit my Great Children on 6-13. I will be driving alone across country. I will be taking I-70 and crossing the flooded rivers. Is that the best route to take from NC to NV?

      On Topic. I think LCHF is the best diet. I don’t take medicine or go to doctors. I question all of the things you listed. Truth stands up to questioning. Lies fall apart. If it is true it will stand the test of time and extreme inspection.

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    2. Nebraska Filly, is your avatar one of yours? Love me them Arabian horses, one of my favorite places to go is the Scottsdale AZ Arabian Horse show.

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        1. beautiful animal, I would love to see her ranch. Has anyone heard anymore about her situation since the floods?

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  8. ❤ ❤ ❤ OUR LION!!!!

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    1. If the communist DNC blocks the USMCA up to the election, we need to make VOTING OUT THE TOP COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS to pass the USMCA in 2021 our top priority.

      That includes the OLD BIDDY and OLD JOKER COMMIES, as well as the YOUNG WITCHES.

      VOTE THEM OUT.

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  9. Øbama’s fingerprints are all over this Netflix movie. Ø He aided, funded, armed, pardoned and/or released thieves, thugs, tyrants, terrorists, and traitors every day of his tenure in office.

    He aided, funded, armed, pardoned and/or released thieves, thugs, tyrants, terrorists, and traitors every day of his tenure in office.

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    1. THAT article is telling the truth – the DSM (mental health diagnostic manual) had to be altered because too many Californians were qualified to be certifiably mentally disordered.

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    1. I don’t get things at times..like this. This open gate has been front & center for days. How hard is it for somebody in charge to shut the damn thing?
      Why doesn’t somebody not in charge shut it with a giant lock on it?

      Why do we continually see vids of 100’s walking in? Why don’t we have some additional deterrents on our side of the fences? Surely we’re “allowed” to use other things?
      It’s a continuous border shock and awe…yay! we’re winning..and 2 seconds later…nah..we’re losing and they’re flooding in, getting transported all over the country

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      1. Just got an email from Brian Kolfage saying The Gate has now been closed and will stay closed except for short periods during the day. Evidently, all the phone calls made a difference…at least to someone in authority.

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  10. The Supreme Court has dismissed without comment the case of somone who wanted to remove “in God we trust” from our currency.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/10/supreme-court-rejects-challenge-god-we-trust-us-mo/
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    The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in its ruling last August against Mr. Newdow said the Establishment Clause of the Constitution doesn’t force the government to purge itself from all religious reflection.

    “Precluding general references to God would do exactly that,” the federal appeals court ruled.

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  11. Okay, Mr. President just asked us (via his talk to the Nebraska/Iowa farmers) to contact Pelosi and the Democrats to get the USMCA over the line.

    Pelosi has a special contact form for out of district comments. It’s on her website contact page.

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    1. I wish I knew what this means. Who decides whether to grant the request? What would it mean for Assange? Would it rescue him from mistreatment and get him better healthcare here, only to have him sent to prison for life in this country? Would he be able to make a deal with our government to give us info? I need to go back and look at Q’s references to Assange, but then there is disinformation…

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      1. Best thing we can do is pray for the man. He’s already ‘served time’ and in a great sense, served this country, if his whistle blowing exposed the truth about Hillrotten and Podesta.

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      2. From my husband’s military point of view – Assange caused a great deal of harm… I get what people are saying regarding his exposing Hillary and Podesta – but there are other facets involved here – serious ones.

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        1. He’s no doubt either a blessing in disguise or a mixed blessing. Which one it is depends on the relative value of the harm he has caused and the help he has given.

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          1. Isn’t he a libertarian? I always keep in mind that he doesn’t have U.S. interests at heart – at least as regards some serious national security issues that POTUS would be concerned about.

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            1. “Libertarian” has become a fashionable label for everything from laissez faire economists to some brands of socialism.

              I guess the Libertarian party succeeded in making the word “cool” but seeing as how it can mean almost anything, it is shorn of any real meaning nowadays.

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              1. True. I understand there is Libertarian with a small “L” and lg “L” – I really didn’t mean anything by using the word, only that Assange isn’t doing anything because he supports the U.S.

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              2. true enough. “Big L” is a member of the party while little “l” is someone who just agrees with it (at least, to those in the Libertarian Party). Of course, the LP has long since gotten infested with faux libertarians who are actually socialists.

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        2. The most wonderful act of benefit to mankind came with a price few of us can comprehend. All good things come at a price. Just saying.

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          1. Assange gave away military secrets which caused the U.S. significant harm. I wont’ spend any more energy feeling sorry for him than I do for “Chelsea Manning” – Assange had intent to hurt the U.S.

            I’m with Wolf about trusting POTUS on this.

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    2. Not really sure how I feel about this to be honest. Seems like a lot of bogus charges filed against him. He has exposed a lot of criminal activity perpetrated by our govt. for which no one has been held accountable. The govt. comes across as butt sore that their crimes have been exposed. I DO NOT trust our so-called justice system or even some in our Presidents administration when it comes to stuff like this.

      I will hope that he gets a fair shake, but not holding my breath with all the Deep Staters still in place and in positions to affect outcomes. Guess I will just have to wait and see. I do trust our President, but we all know not all of his subordinates tow the line.

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    3. Me thinks the US Government has just about abused the notion that I’ll simply believe them when they start hollering “National Security”, “sources and methods” BS to protect…

      Have worked with classified information that pretty well goes up the scale and all of that. 100% respect the need to pretect information I worked with and so much more information that needs protecting.

      After all the abuses we keep seeing and hearing, I am ready to get Assange some decent treatment, and if a day in court is appropriate, so be it.

      IF Assange can shed FACTS on abuses by our government, other governments so both corrective action and punishment can be meted out. 100% for it. Needs to be done transparently. Otherwise, NOTHING gets fixed.

      yea, I know damage was done. It in fact is done. Remaining mitigated, or should have been if folks doing their jobs.

      Whether we hear President Trump weighs in or not, I’ll bet he is briefed before anything happens. Barr, or someone will give him a heads up. Perhaps via Mnuchin. As Wolf says, Trust Trump. That is where I am.

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    1. I don’t think it’s been posted here. I did see this on a site dedicated to notable chan posts, though. Or VOAT. One of them.

      Interestingly enough there was another thread that talked about abandoned warehouse districts appearing to be skid rows being used for wild art parties complete with debauchery and other dark things. Quite the coincidence for that to appear today. If that’s really the case, no wonder city governments don’t work to tear down the derelict buildings with more fervor and vigor.

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  12. The earlier one vanished when the clearing of older posts was done, so I’m dropping this in again, just in case some of y’all are interested but missed it:

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  13. Hey guys, is the president doing a rally in Iowa tonight? Or is it a fundraiser for the Iowa Repub Party (I thought it was a private deal)
    Do we want a thread for it?
    Or can we just post the excerpts?

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  14. Trump’s “speech” is quiet, intimate, like we’re in the same room with him. It’s like a board meeting. It’s a family meeting. Very cool.
    There’s many hundred people there, from the clapping, but he’s cool as a cucumber.
    He’s going through every topic…….. bopping right along……….. not looking at a teleprompter at all.
    Freeeeeee wheeling.
    Right on point.

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    1. Really, really like it when President Trump goes off script. While still getting the basic message out, he at times dispenses with PC, which I like. A lot. And he’ll toss in a few zingers at the D-Rats.

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  15. Wait a minute, he does have a teleprompter, but he is not paying attention to it at all.

    He brought an angel mom up, touching, moving, wow.

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  16. Wow……… he’s good.
    He’s talking about staying out of foreign entanglements.
    But says, “things might change” “lot of bad things….. North Korea…… Iran…..”
    “many things which should have been taken care of in he past adminisration and the administration before that one….. but they didn’t get it done…… but we are… we’re getting it done……”
    “and whatever happens…. we have it under control”

    Wow, when he says it, I believe it.
    Completely different than prior admins or presidents.

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  17. I’m seeing shades of where President Trump is going for his campaign pitch for 2020.
    Several examples of what SHOULD have been done in past admins…. things which he has fixed or is addressing.
    Jerusalem, The VA, illegal immigration, energy, red tape, trade deals, and unabashed love of country.

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    1. And, drug prices going down, Iran nuke deal, TPP trashed, Paris Climate hoax, pipelines, manufacturing…

      …fundamentally it is, America First…across the spectrum of issues!!!

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  18. I just thought of another thing. There are tons of supposed MAGA sites on Twitter that post stuff all day long.

    They say the most wonderful things and are super gungho. They tweet stuff that is absolutely designed to get you to react emotionally.

    It’s usually some egregious thing that the left has done. Often though, it’s from two years ago. Often, it is something that has been debunked.

    And always, these accounts are begging for more followers. I mean, it’s unseemly.

    These types of accounts I unfollow as soon as I figure out they are not kosher. And if someone retweets them, I unfollow that account too.

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    1. Glad you mentioned this GrandmaInTexas. In our FB groups, we get a lot of this. Posts about something some HOllyweird actor has said. All of it is Bad, Nasty, designed to bring you down, frustrate you. And yes, many videos which are years old or bad info.
      I delete them.

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    1. Tom Fitton is on – New emails released from State Dept.
      Jonathan Winer – good friend of Chris Steele……. funneling to Steny Hoyer.
      Winer vouched for Steele, relationship goes back many years.
      Wanted info to come in via foreign source.
      Victoria Nuland is in it up to her neck.
      Winer created another dossier, using Steele, Blumenthal, and Cody Shearer.

      Bottom line: The problem is not just FBI/DOJ – it’s just as important to examine State Dept. State is an equal problem. Everyone desperate to get info OUT to damage the incoming President.

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  19. There will come a day when these people won’t be safe walking down the street.

    It can’t come soon enough.

    Please hurry.

    Amazing Polly discusses some evil monsters.

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  20. Ok..out of left field but it popped up…………………….remember this..the pics we tried to decide about Lisa Page being the “missing” spy…this is new info so not verified but would it surprise anyone?

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    1. This is an interesting comment someone made to that thread:

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        1. “That makes MORE sense than simply pointing out that her mother was Iranian.”

          __________________

          I care a lot more about whether she’s islamic than I do about whether she’s Iranian.

          islam is synonymous with a lot of words, all of them bad ones.

          Not a single good one.

          The word that is synonymous with islam that I’m thinking of right now is ‘subversive’.

          islam is inherently subversive, it is a parasite that subverts whatever host organism it invades.

          It’s like a tick. Not a tick like a ‘tick-tock’ before a bomb goes off — though it would be completely understandable if that was your first thought — because islam is also synonymous with bombs.

          I meant ‘tick’ as in the blood sucking parasite.

          If Lisa Page or Huma Abedin are islamic, that’s a giant red flag of the size used in former Soviet military parades.

          We know Huma is not only islamic, but she has strong ties to the Muzzie Brotherhood.

          No way Huma could ever get a security clearance without systematic institutional corruption all the way to the very top.

          People love to talk about how the ‘rank and file’ are all good guys.

          Why didn’t all of those ‘good guys’ resign in protest, when the Muslim Brotherhood was not only allowed but encouraged to infiltrate our government at every level?

          Because they’re not really ‘good guys’, that’s why.

          At some point we have to stop pretending.

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          1. “See Something Say Nothing” by Phillip Haney, one of the founders of DHS. He took his mission seriously but his patriotism in doing so was very unappreciated by TPTB.

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      1. Thanks and lots of good comments in the thread. There’s been so many things uncovered in the last year. So many things that it almost dilutes itself but it’s all important. No coincidences and fits together like a puzzle

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  21. They couldn’t pay me enough money to vacation in The Dominican Republic. It’s too dangerous as of late.

    Even a Fox News producer was held up at gunpoint when he stopped to ask for directions.

    “But then finally, just as a sort of reminder about how cautious we have to be when we travel outside of the country to a place like the Dominican Republic, when we were traveling last night between this resort and the other one where the three deaths happened, our fixer, our local producer who helps us with the local issues pulled off the side of the road to ask for directions.

    He was robbed at gunpoint. He lost all of his valuables. Fortunately, he was not harmed, and we were not harmed either. But it is a reminder, you have to be very careful be there are more and more questions coming out of this tiny little Caribbean paradise”

    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-carlson-tonight-investigates-the-mysterious-deaths-of-tourists-in-the-dominican-republic

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    1. “They couldn’t pay me enough money to vacation in The Dominican Republic. It’s too dangerous as of late. ”

      ________________

      Where ISN’T it too dangerous, anymore?

      Anyplace that has either

      A) drug cartels

      or

      B) unrestrained islam (i.e., police do nothing at all to islamic perpetrators,no matter the crime)

      …are places I would never go, under any circumstances.

      That means I wouldn’t set foot in Western Europe even if you paid me, not unless I was able to carry concealed, in order to defend myself, because I’m sure as &^%$ not counting on the police to do their job.

      When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

      And I wouldn’t go to Mexico even if I could carry concealed. It’s a narco-terror state war zone.

      My sister went there a month or so ago, completely oblivious. She stayed in a resort area, but it seems the terrorists and drug cartels have figured out where all the tourists congregate…

      islam and drug cartels can only exist where there is no Law.

      If there is no Law, either I’m not going, or I’m carrying a weapon to defend myself.

      If I can’t carry a weapon to defend myself, then I’m not going.

      Simple as that.

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    2. I was thinking that they all drank at their minibars, but its full size bottles tipped up with a spigot. I wonder if the alcohol is being supplied by the same company, who is maybe replacing the bottles cut with some other chemical? Or theres employees doing it. Or, someone works at multiple hotels targeting Anericans. No thanks, its no vacation.

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  22. From OT:

    Secretary Pompeo Press Conference – U.S-Mexico Migration and Border Agreement…
    June 11, 2019
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/11/secretary-pompeo-press-conference-u-s-mexico-migration-agreement/#more-164964

    “I thought too I’d spend just a minute here talking about the agreement that was reached with the United States and Mexico on Friday of last week. Frankly, it reflects diplomacy at its finest. It shows the enduring strength, too, of the relationship between our two countries, and it’s a significant win for the American people.”

    _______________

    Hahahahaaaaaaaaa!

    Diplomacy at it’s finest!

    DJT held a gun to Mexico’s head, cocked the hammer, and started squeezing the trigger.

    Mexico said WAIT! Por favor, Señor!

    We’ll do it!

    We’ll do anything!

    Just don’t pull the trigger!!!

    DJT smiles, decocks the hammer, but leaves the gun pointed at Mexico’s head.

    Ah yes… diplomacy… at it’s FINEST!

    😁 🤣

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  23. Geez, so I just wrote this long ass post, pretty much a book chapter relating to this morning’s discussion about censorship and whatnot but it took so long to write and so much has happened today it seems off topic now. I’ll keep it and probably refine it for Wolf’s next censorship thread, not that it was profound, just my ramblings but it was just kinda long, especially for me.

    I’ll just say exciting times, love winning and censorship sucks and it’s gotta be impossible for anyone to not be able to find out who I really am with just the slightest of efforts. Christopher Steele could probably even figure it out 😆

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    1. Hope you saved it. If we think it’s bad now..the months leading up to 2020 election are going to be dystopian madness due to blackout censoring and 24/7 propaganda

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  24. Rosie has interesting thread on why John Dean. To get Watergate into record, to use unsealed impeachment roadmap as precedent, all concocted by Lawfare group controlling Nadler’s strings

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      1. Comments are hilarious. It was also good to see those who don’t put up with twisting facts to fit a fear mongering narrative.

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    1. We get all the little ones sp often we dont notice unless there real shallow. I want to go to the tar pits over summer, but with disease all over, not sure its worth the risk.. kiddo loves all things like this.

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