Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181217

This SPECIAL D17 AS IN DQ MONDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

No provocations, por favor.
Hoaxing commies will be shown the door.

Today (Monday, December 17) is the sixteenth day of Advent.

We’re wise to this “Jesus” guy spreading the love drugs.

Five Suspicious Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats
Four LARPing Nerds
Three French Vests
Two Turtle Heads
And a Wolf Moo-oon in a Q Tree.

The 146th day of next year, which shall be celebrated here as Ma Cankles Uranium Day, is:

SUNDAY, MAY 26, 2019


and TWO SCOOPS in a bowl in the freezer

570 thoughts on “Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181217

  1. *** Gilets Jaunes news ***

    RMC, the French talk radio station I listen to, has a morning show called Les Grandes Gueules (The Big Mouths). Every year, they have a popular vote of listeners who decide who should win La GG of the Year award (pardon the Franglais).

    The 2018 award went to Les Gilets Jaunes, represented by one of the co-founders Jacline Mouraud from Brittany, who works with autistic young people.

    Last year’s winner was a general:

    Here’s Jacline with protesters:

    She said that the gilets jaunes were now so large and persistent that the government can no longer ignore them. She says she gets a lot of mail, and one of her videos has 6 million views. She said the movement will become more mainstream next year. She is very laissez-faire about her role and said that if she is ever asked to stand down as spokesperson, she will do so forthwith:

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  2. Communist Dem modus operandi, “Go after the kids to get the parents to submit”.
    Normally, I despise Gateway Pundit, but this is all quotes from Joy Reid and her guest.
    They fantasize about how to attack Trump to bring him down.
    They conclusion = Go after the kids…… just like they did with Flynn.

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    1. Yep. Because the idiots in the YSM get so wound up, they retweet it everywhere, bemoaning the academic “insufficiency” of VSGPDJT, never realizing that their retweet of his entire message(s) was the whole point…

      Cats (press), laser pointer(s) (VSGPDJT’s tweets)… what’s not to like? 🙂

      I doubt many of the pearl-clutching presstitutes could string together more than a pair of sentences without some sort of errors. And they’d likely have to double their IQ to be in the range of President Trump’s IQ…

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      1. When they held that CNN video/meme contest, my favorite entry was Bugs as conductor making the tenor explode. Why? Because he didn’t just beat the tenor up like in other memes, he played them. The tenor could have avoided self-destruction by just not following Bug’s commands.

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          1. And for the distaff (above the staff, no less) side of things,

            Q: What’s the difference between a Soprano and a Seamstress?

            A: The Seamstress tucks up the frills…

            (That MIGHT have been in Scott Beach’s “Musicdotes”, in any case a hilarious and wonderful read)…

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              1. Somehow I knew you’d reply.

                I haven’t SUNG Queen of the night, but I’ve accompanied many budding sopranos in that and other efforts, both successful and not.

                Oh, and I sung in the first performance of Rachmaninov’s Vespers in English in the Western Hemisphere, as well as working as a rehearsal pianist in it. Not bad for my second and fourth “instruments”, as it were…

                I could as well ask when was the last time you performed the Tchaikovsky Rococo Variations, or the Schumann, Elgar, Boccherini, or Haydn Cello Concerti…

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              2. Yeah, not a cellist, but have sung three movements of the Rachmaninov in Russian. It was one of those times…the music director got the orchestra to sit on the stage during the choral parts and went straight into something else when we were finished. It was really extraordinary that the orchestra members agreed to do that.

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              3. The wonderful thing about the Vespers (OK, one of the wonderful things) is how Rachmaninov can take what is basically a chant, and clothe it in a remarkable fabric of tone, harmony, color, and a long melodic line. One problem we had was keeping the pitch up with the sustained lines (though in our case, the basses could deal with the subterranian sinking). The three of us with perfect pitch were tasked with keeping things on the “up and up”, which generally meant we tended just a tad sharp, if needed. Yeech.

                Also interesting is the different style and timbre of the Russian vocalists versus those of us of the “SoCal” background. Tenors a bit more nasal, altos more powerful, sopranos at times strident, and basses tending to dominate things if not held in check 🙂 The “Hail Mary” is one of the most beautiful settings I’ve sung or heard…

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              4. Oh, yeah, holding pitch on anything long and a cappella is ridiculously hard. The look on Robertson’s face when we held it on “Quando Corpus” in Rossini’s Stabat Mater still resonates. The grin was infectious.

                I can imagine that Vespers piece was murder.


        1. The thing about it, though, is that anyone who knows true tenors knows the battles that go on between conductor and soloist. This happens with sopranos too from time to time. I saw Dawn Upshaw get into it with David Robertson one night. Don’t remember who won that one.

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          1. Also happens with prima-donna instrumentalists as well. And not always the instrumentalist’s fault or doing. OTOH Toscanini’s remark, “My God, if only these were brains”, I guess typical for him when frustrated. Lots of damaged batons, watches, etc. there…not to mention egos…

            Casals was reported to have said, “be kind to those you meet on the way up, for you will meet the same people on the way down”. Sad that most discussions anymore about him (at least in the YouTube milieu) devolve into Pablo vs. Pau vs. Paul, and have almost nothing to do with his musicianship, and innovation in cello technique… funny (not) how politics ends up polluting almost everything…

            P.S. In rehearsing the basses (I, II, and III) for the Vespers, I ended up walking the 3rd basses (some of whom were Orthodox priests) down the lowest notes of the piano keyboard. They kept going when I ran out of keys, on a Bösendorfer no less (with the little door covering the extra keys). They were able to produce a decent tone, descending down into almost a rattle (Simon?) when they reached their respective limits. Nonetheless, the extra octave they provided was both impressive, and musically valuable (even if not always noted in the score)(yep, another type of showing off, I guess)…

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            1. OMG. No kidding? Wow those are some low voices.

              We had a guest conductor who will remain nameless when I was in one of the big choruses. The piece was the Berlioz Requiem, and his victims were Susan Slaughter (trumpet chair) and George Silfes (clarinet). Just imagine how that went over. And not just with them, but the rest of the people on the stage. As far as I know that conductor has never been back.


              1. Some of the, erm, exchanges between conductors and musicians (no, I didn’t say it 🙂 ), are epic. The book I mentioned, “Musicdotes”, by Scott Beach, has many of them. I was in a Chamber Symphony where we had a soloist who lived up to his (last) name. Very, VERY difficult. Then again, better difficult and brilliant, than cheerful, agreeable, and a failure.

                Same thing in the engineering world. Had a colleague who was extremely socially challenged. But, a compiler and computer language genius. He basically worked when most folks weren’t there. Suited everyone perfectly. Probably wouldn’t work for a performance job, though 🙂

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    1. Hungary had horrific post-war inflation; the Pengo notes eventually had twenty one zeros on them (twelve of them hidden by calling the note 1,000,000,000 B-Pengos (in Hungary, like in many countries, a billion has twelve, not nine, zeros).

      When the inflation finally ended, apparently every single piece of paper money in the whole country put together amounted to less than a US dollar. Or so I’m told; I have no idea how they figured that out.

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        1. That would have to be awfully cheap paper for an entire country’s outstanding currency to be on paper worth less than a dollar.

          No, the claim was the exchange value of all pengos put together was less than a dollar…supposedly.

          Reminds me of a joke I heard a LONG time ago, like the early 80s. Two guys in Mexico are discussing current events:

          “Hey did you hear the US national debt is over a trillion dollars?” (Now you know how old the joke is…)

          “Wow. A trillion dollars? Hey, how many pesos is that?”

          “All of them.”

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  3. SD is at it again, filling in the blanks (redactions).

    I don’t mind speculation, as a matter of fact, I love it. Speculating often leads to solutions.

    BUT, SD PRONOUNCES as if his speculation is FACT. And people believe. So I post.

    In the Mueller Reply to Judge Sullivan Request for FBI 302 Notes, there is a redacted portion about Flynn’s meeting with the FBI. SD fills in the redaction, and posts it, here:

    The typeface (again!) is wrong. Too big, and in bold. It doesn’t fit. I mean, just look at the second line “as” and just underneath it on the third line “has.” It is very obvious.

    Whatever is in that redaction, this in not it. Reminds me of the worst moment of the O.J. trial, and that damned glove.

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    1. “…he anticipated we were listening to phone call” isn’t even proper English. It should be phone calls, plural. Or maybe “listening to his calls.” That’s unbelievably bad.

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    2. And THIS is the result – watch for this to show up on FB and on other sites:

      Crabby says:
      December 17, 2018 at 12:04 am

      General Flynn indicated he knew they had the conversation on tape and could tell him what he said. He didn’t lie or even try to evade.

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    3. Aren’t you taking him filling in over the redaction a bit too literally? I mean, he is literally just typing in what he “believes” was beneath the redaction, not using a magic eraser to reveal what’s under it.

      not trying to be a SD defender, and maybe I’m being obtuse…..

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      1. The problem is, he launches into a whole analysis based on the premise that he filled it in correctly, and some people lap it up as Gospel because everyone over there praises his brilliant analyses.

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      2. Well, the point of typing it in is to see if it fits. The only way it works it to have the font be the same size, leading, etc. And it is “literal” when he does it. He is telling people that is what it says.


    4. I would correct the font and replace with the following speculation:

      he understood that NSA was recording the phone call.

      Or it could be a thousand variants like it. Whatever the actual phrasing of the redacted clause, it is almost certainly related to recording of the phone call, because too much is given away in the first clause and the next sentence by context. Little else makes sense.

      I think the exact wording is loose speculation, but the subject is tight speculation, and examination of facts based upon that speculation can be used to shore up a larger theory, IMHO. I say that not knowing any more about what SD said in the post.

      Q is critical in why I continue to TRUST SUNDANCE.

      Emotions cloud judgement.
      Emotions cloud logic.

      SD kicked us out for a reason. I am closing in on that reason.

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      1. “I am closing in on that reason.”

        I hope that reason includes allowing all the trolls free rein, and not just “No Q”.

        I think we’ve all rightly concluded that something serious DID happen …

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          1. I noticed by accident that I can now like OT. I have not tried to post but did just see someone say they were blocked and Adrem quickly informed him “ Pops your not being blocked…perhaps it is a WP problem. I’m not tech but is this possible? Could WP be deliberately blocking certain Treepers?

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              1. I do think at least some of the problem is WordPress as ad rem told me I was not blocked, even though I could not post for a while, then I could again.

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              2. I can like SD’s articles but not the comments nor can I post. I worked with WP tech and they told me that everything looked fine on their end. They asked the question does WP function properly on all other sites using WP. The answer was/is yes so my take is it must be controlled by SD specific to CTH.

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    1. Yes, there ARE still places within our own country when one can experience what Stefan is experiencing in Poland. But they will NOT be found in the midst of the urban sprawl – rather, out here, in the wide open country, where we still cherish our history and our culture and respect and love each other. We will NOT be defeated!!!

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      1. Yes, you’re right, Filly…there *are* places across our country where people can still express their pride in our heritage.
        It is still alive and well out here in flyover country.

        Stefan is Canadian, though…and under Trudeau, things are getting worse by the day up there.

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  4. The Dow is down again today.

    It is down nearly 2000 points since the midterm elections.
    Personally…I think the selloff is being done in advance of the Dems taking over the House.

    The ‘experts’ are making all sorts of excuses.
    Trade war…the Fed…blah blah blah.

    But the market hates uncertainty.
    And there’s a big ole busload of uncertainty scheduled to arrive in January when the Dems take over the House.

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    1. This was a huge part of the problem once Obolacare looked like it could/would happen. No one knew what was in it, and no one was going to hire people not knowing how much their health insurance would cost.

      A rapidly changing regulatory environment is pure economic poison for this reason. If it’s bad but stable, businesses can at least make plans, and the economy will limp along. But instability makes it impossible to plan on anything.

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  5. This is messed up.

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    1. “What have we become?”
      The first word that comes to mind is “idiots.” This is so stupid and dangerous, as well as unfair. It is the implementation of an agenda that is against nature and our best interests. If allowed to continue to its full potential, it will be the end of sports AND civilization as we know it — which is exactly the goal.

      Someone with some common sense needs to tell them to get that guy off the field, period.

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      1. should be XX competes with other XXs and XYs compete with other XYs…make it black and white…no gray area allowed. no matter what drugs you take, or surgeries you have, chromosomes don’t change.

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          1. And when leftists inevitably go “whataboutist” on genetic anomalies, we can make it binary on the presence of the Y chromosome. Present (male-ish) or absent (female-ish). There are no exceptions. Easy call.


    2. As awful as it is, the one positive is that it’s better than a meme, it’s better than an essay, it’s better than a a talking head rambling on about how wonderful trannies are………………..THIS is the reality of a biological male competing with women.
      What next…womens sports teams recruiting borg males so that they can be competitive?

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      1. Part of the real agenda, besides the communists breaking down our society, is to get rid of male and female and eventually transhumanism where machines merge with people, and they want people to get used to genderlessness. It’s sick.

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    3. Sorry folks, but it is all one big freak show to me. I am almost 70 years old and over the past 10 years, my country has become “one big freak show”… Sad…

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      1. Sunnydays, I feel the same. Only thing is–freaks,yes, but problem is this show is real. It’s heart-breaking, and if I didn’t have the Lord, I wouldn’t be able to take it.

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        1. I agree Cuppa Covfefe! The commie dems have surely got us on a fast track to h-e-double-hockey- sticks! But the Trump Train is a roaring down that track with the Good Lord at his side, so I pray those tracks are cleared real soon… We truly need some good news about now.

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  6. Are you FREAKIN’ kidding me?
    Remember the redheaded Russian, Butina?
    FBI kept her in solitary for 5 months – FIVE months.
    Finally got her to plead guilty to not registering for FARA.
    WHAT the heck is going on?

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    1. Honestly, if I was Russian, I would not let anyone come here.
      I would advise against travel to the usa.
      Actual charge is – Attempting to infiltrate Republican circles and influence US relations with Russia before and after the election.
      That’s what exchange students do.
      Since when is this a crime?

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      1. Well, she is either a dumb asset or a very smart asset, but she’s an asset. What she knows can put together a LOT about Russian intelligence operations.

        Gun rant here. Important to not let the fake news manipulate us on Putin.

        I will be very blunt. Gun-grabbin’ Vlad wants our guns. Any belief otherwise is self-deception. Once I saw the extent and intent of this operation, I could not unsee it. Our government is far easier to manipulate by external forces if the people don’t have guns. PERIOD.

        Now – the real question is whether white hats or black hats were in control of her. Black hats will want to deep-six the international gun-grab intrigue aspects of this – the VLWC. White hats may also want to discover more but maybe control that info b/c they may or may not be ready to spring that stuff bigly.

        She was NOT under Mueller – she was under a Chi-Bushie who likes Trump. What does THAT mean?

        Many levels of deception going on. Many motivations. I have to know more about what they got out of her and what they intend to do with it. Deep-sixing it is what Mueller would do.

        Does what they are doing help the Chertoff post-9/11-DHS “What border?” “Through our scanners darkly” “Patriot Act” police state? Or does it help the Trump “we are keeping the First Amendment and Second Amendment” vision?

        Who knows? Complicated business.

        I do know that putting the mass murder and mass migration cabal into GITMO will make a lot of security stuff totally irrelevant. Imagine a world where we don’t need TSA. We had that before certain things happened.

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        1. Yes, a key component of the battle we now find ourselves engaged in is the Second Amendment. We should, all of us, remind our fellow citizens that we have delegated to our government the authority to form an army and a militia and a police force. They get their authority to employ weapons as a delegation of authority from us. If we don’t have that authority, neither do they.

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        2. In 1964 I travelled with my family to England, from SFO the LHR via Pan Am. I think it was one of the smaller (compared to now) jets, a 727 or even a 707, as we made three stops on the way over.

          Aside from the fact they were filming “What’s Up Doc?” at SFO as we were slogging our suitcases through the airport to the gate, once we were on the plane, VISITORS to the passengers were allowed onboard, until the plane was almost ready to depart. Travel was MUCH different back then…

          I can still hear the pilot, in absolute perfect King’s English say, “Will all visitors not booked on this flight please disembark IMMEDIATELY”…

          This was before all the hijackings, etc. My, how things have changed. Innocence lost, life (and lives) cheapened…

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            1. Yep. That was great. Still didn’t rescue the breakfast sausages, which, to quote Douglas Adams, were “joyless tubes, full of gristle” (though not accompanied by “yellow water with gas in it” ) 🙂

              OK, it wasn’t THAT bad, but the food did leave room for improvement. Everything else was worlds better, or as they say there, streets ahead…

              I can still hear the music that was playing as we taxied – Dean Martin singing “Everybody Loves Somebody, Sometime”…

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              1. Yes, the music…people dressed like they were almost going to church, not in shorts so short one know s we shouldn’t touch the seats.
                Remember the hot wash cloths handed to you with tongs. Peanuts. Coffee that wasn’t disgusting. Ability to roam the plane as long as there was no real turbulence.

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              2. Really enjoyed reading this. Not quite the same thing, but my family took–think it was American Airlines back in around 1964 or 5, and even that was rather glamorous. The stewardesses (gasp) were dressed to the nines, and we all dressed up. Everyone did, and the food was much above what came later. Everyone was super-courteous from passengers to flight crew, and it all felt very special. The passengers were treated as if they were clientele of the first order, and the respect was mutual.

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  7. OKay look, instead of whining and complaining, we need a plan.
    What can we do to help our VSG to take back control of the FBI/DOJ?
    The double standard of justice is not working and thwarting MAGA, putting good people in jail, and bankrupting others.
    This is NUTS.
    Trump is the President.
    What do we need to do here?
    Open to suggestions. Come one; come all.

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    1. Unless one has a shit-load of $$$, about all we can do is educate, educate, educate. That is ALWAYS my overarching goal. Bug the crap out of your elected reps, write letters to the editor, research, research, research and expose that research. Besides the usual local organizing, if this is your gig (which it is NOT for me).

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    2. Great question. Not sure of the answers yet, but I think that one thing we can do is to prepare ourselves for ROCKY TIMES where VSGPOTUS nukes these people with disclosures.

      There ARE white hats in FBI – they just busted a synagogue-shooting Muslim before the act, as well as a tavern-shooting Bernista (that was likely going to be a targeting killing by the “event people”, IMO). That is old-school white-hattery, and possibly anti-black hat, if only by accident. BUT they are also playing political dirt and entrapment games on patriots, hoping to harm Trump using NSA data, and THAT is no good. So there are black hats everywhere, too.

      I will keep thinking about your question. I think that any assistance we can give to Q and the white hats in putting HEAT on Mueller, helping get the truth out about their war on Flynn, and outing the black hats in the RADIUM ROD ROSENSTEIN DOJ/FBI is helpful.

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      1. Why is RR still working in the DOJ? His “do you want me to wear a wire” comment was (presumably) outed in an effort to get PDJT to fire him and create a crisis re Mueller.

        Since RR no longer supervises Mueller, RR can be canned without creating this “muh obstruction of justice” crisis – begging the question I asked above.

        What purpose does it serve to leave a powerful (supposed) black hat in the no.2 slot in the DOJ?

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        1. So he is still in control of the FBI that wants to take down Trump. Sundance hit the nail on the head with that one.

          The “event people” have backed down to a lower level of visibility, largely (IMO) dictated by Rosenstein. They have to pause their plans more to get around Trump, and are concentrating fire on Flynn right now, for various strategic reasons.

          They will NOT relent on Rosenstein. Push that in the slightest, and watch Holder SHRIEK with fear!

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          1. Let Holder shriek all he wants – THEY gave POTUS the loaded gun to fire RR – the treasonous “wear a wire” comment.

            POTUS can legitimately fire RR for that, with evidence provided by them – they cannot complain.

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            1. Gotta be careful. Traps everywhere in this game. We don’t have sufficient information to know if RR needs gone NOW or not. I think all of us would feel safer if he was gone, but maybe there is a good reason to keep him. Going back to what SD said about “leverage”, but there may be even more strategic reasons to keep [RR] than mere [leverage].

              Q knows, I think, but is somewhat “riddley” about it for various reasons. RR is a tough nut to crack.

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              1. Sure, whatever RR is, PDJT knows without a shadow of a doubt, and RR knows that POTUS knows.

                RR’s status and PDJT’s knowledge of same is a KNOWN KNOWN to both of them due to the events that have played out over time.

                So if RR is a black hat, RR knows that POTUS knows.

                I go back to ALL the footage of Sessions hamming it up with RR and THAT photo of Rudy Giuliani hamming it up with him.

                Are WE (the Q tree) absolutely sure of RR’s status? Cause I remain confused …..

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    3. My suggestions follow Q, for the most part.

      First – what Filly said. Try to red-pill as many people as possible – subtlety at first (try to get them to do the work to figure things out), and then, drop the Q-site on them (with research boards).

      Second – pay attention! Of course, we all do, but using this site as a secondary news-aggregator (the 8-chans being primary) will help very much. When all of US, HERE, are as informed as possible – and don’t have to do the full job of research and transmission ourselves – then we have the “info-ammo” to proceed with the dissemination effort.

      Third – like Q said, archive EVERYTHING off-line. Given the recent Q&A session, we needn’t fear an electrical-grid black-out, but rather a comms “blackout”. In other words, the censoring effort may go, hmm, “nuclear”. Deletion, erasure, banning, shadow-banning, and the like. It may even affect our own devices, especially with the FORCED updates many of us have had to suffer to our OS or browser versions. Built-in censoring, along with built-in spying!

      Fourth – KEEP THE FAITH!!! Like Wolf said, abandon fear (it’s a killer! TY, Wolf). Emulate Marica, and RedLeg, and so many others here, who simply WILL NOT give up, or give in. Like VSGPDJT and Q have said, “Fight, Fight!, FIGHT!!!” It’s the only path – and the best path – to victory.

      Fifth – A bad day or two aside, BE PATIENT! We only see 5-10% of what’s going on, but “the Plan”, so far as I can tell, extends to 2024. Focus on the GOOD news (we’ve got the Senate, and the SJC – and BOTH may be added to, in pretty short order), and don’t get demoralized by the bad. The “bad” news is orchestrated, designed, and INTENTIONAL. Don’t be “driven” … except by yourself!

      Sixth – Have FUN! It is WE who still have our sense of humor, and our popcorn, and our wits! It is THEY who are on the losing side. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

      Feel free to add to my exhortations … seek and ye shall find!

      I’m outta breath …

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      1. WOW! Emerald!! There must have been Smoke coming off your keyboard!!!! Thanks for mentioning me (face red now)
        Your 6th Bullet Is the MOST important! It makes the Q tree different from ALL the rest!!! and even tho THis is Super Serious Stuff…If we can have fun then we don’t go down the despair route!!!

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    4. Identify the key spiritual targets and deal with them in prayer. For those that are busy, while cleaning toilets works well for me.

      Top target often is mesmerizing spirit. This is where people agree to not see what is true about others. For example, you choose to ignore the moral failure of the shepherd of the flock (church leadership) because they are a “man of god” but reject any and all evidence of goodness in a godless, but perhaps pre-Christian, leaders over your city.

      You have now opened yourself up to deception on a large scale.

      Now imagine entire churches, who are called by God to stand in prayer with His authority over their local, regional. state, or national government bound by this spirit due to their choice to NOT SEE the full truth around them. They have allowed themselves to be blinded.

      WHAT IF the people of God repented of this sin, grew in their authority and THEN battled in prayer to REMOVE the blinders on the eyes of Judges, LE, the IC, Congress, top administration officials, State Dept, Ambassadors, Military leaders, Trade negotiators, Lawyers, Educators, the leaders of the opposition, Prison officials, the list is endless.

      This is strategic warfare.

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  8. “According to The Washington Post, the indictment, unsealed in the Eastern District of Virginia Monday, alleges that Bijan Kian and Turkish businessman Kamil Ekim “conspired” to unlawfully lobby federal U.S. officials and sway domestic public opinion against Gulen, an outspoken critic of Turkish President Recep Erdogan. Further, prosecutors say Alptekin “directed and funded” Flynn and Kian’s activities and later lied to investigators concerning his efforts. Kian reportedly served as vice chairman of Flynn’s lobbying group, the Flynn Intel Group.

    JUST IN: Court documents: Two of Michael Flynn’s business associates, Bikan Rafiekian (Bijan Kian) and Kamil Alptekin, indicted for alleged conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government and other charges; case tied to efforts to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen.

    — NBC News (@NBCNews) December 17, 2018”

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    1. is this what Mueller was up to last Friday when he empaneled the Grand Jury? So he could reveal this before Sullivan can smack him down? deflect, deflect, deflect…

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        1. had to go back and check…no it was in DC

          Deplorable Patriot
          December 14, 2018 at 6:08 pm

          Also found these comments on VOAT re the sealed floor in a courthouse in Washington discussed upthread. Looks like it has something to do with the Mueller grand jury. No wonder the place is sealed tighter than Area 51.

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      1. i thought we were all equal under the law. Why did the Podestas get to register after the fact but before charges were brought and Manafort and others do not?

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      2. DAUGHN!!! GOD BLESS YOU!!!

        You hit the NAIL on the HEAD!!!

        This is their strategy!!!

        Before they can REGULATE our domestic political speech, they have to regulate FOREIGN political speech. This is the GATEWAY to regulating our online speech.

        What they are doing is playing along Trump nationalism to create a FALSE DOWNSIDE. They love to do that. Note that globalist DEMOCRATS can lobby for GLOBALIST causes, but nobody can say anything pro or con on NATIONAL CAUSES that appear tied to foreign governments. It’s a total scam when viewed from 10,000 feet. Globalism OK. Nationalism BAD.

        Oh, man, I HATE these fuckers. Excuse my bad Americanly accented French. 😉

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        1. They re-define words. They forbid the use of certain words. They seek control of language because ultimately they are trying to control WHAT YOU THINK.

          To these f@#$%^rs, power is EVERYTHING. The ego is seeking to be a god – to USURP Gd – and they seek power above all else, because their understanding of being a god is POWER.

          This is the Lucifarian project ….

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  9. ristvan says:
    December 17, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Lurking Lawyer here. The Texas judge ruled ACA was not severable. That will be the main point of appeal, since Roberts 2012 opinion part 3 said constitutional as a tax, while part 2 said unconstitutional under commerce clause as written, so the individual mandate without the tax penalty is part 2 unconstitutional.

    Severability ofACA was specifically briefed and debated in 2012. I researched that history but did not reread the oral argument. There are two general tests, congressional intent and functionality.

    Intent has two factors suggesting not severable. First, there is no severability clause in ACA. Second, the House vote was up or down, no amendments allowed, suggesting the intent was inseverable.

    Functionality is more. Title one included the mandate, preexisting conditions, and so forth. Tittle two was medicaid expansion. There is a strong argument that Title two is severable, but the provisions of Title one are not.
    Inseverability of title one is what forces the main issues and the need for a replacement law.

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      1. Hey W – with this latest ply from the Mule-er Gang, do we think that they sooner rather than later run out of ammo? Yea, sure they can go on unauthorized goose hunts, but as to the original charge (yea, I know we haven’t seen the [RR] redacted commissioning memo) what could be next?

        Sure would love to hear from Q on this; perhaps tomorrow?

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        1. Not sure. There is a certain solution brewing in Q space right now and I’m almost there. Things are happening – ideas are forming – something is up. I need more data of various kinds, and am getting data that intrigues.

          Parallel construction is the use of coincidence one way – to deceive. Q is using a backwards form of it to communicate with us and enlighten. It’s all related to encryption. All very beautiful.

          I had a Q dream last night. It was about a kind of small durable poster – a bit like a wall calendar that was part of a manual for quick reference. It was basically a CHECKLIST.

          How to Pick a Good Coincidence” was the heading at the top. There were ten or twelve “rules” for how to pick a good coincidence.

          I believe that this idea is central to both parallel construction and (even more radical) parallel deconstruction. The “event people” use parallel construction to create psy-ops, propaganda events, eliminations of people, entrapments, and historical change events. It’s the same thing used in “Mueller prosecutions (persecutions / misdirections)”. It’s the Cabal sneaking into government.

          Parallel deconstruction is what Q is up to, I think. It has all kinds of implications.

          The relationship of parallel construction/deconstruction to the pairing of public key encryption and digital signatures is profound.

          More on this later, but wanted to get this out there a.s.a.p.

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          1. “The relationship of parallel construction/deconstruction to the pairing of public key encryption and digital signatures is profound.”

            Damn Wolfie — I am about three books behind on digging into stuff that has come up here over the past couple of months, and now I have more profound stuff to learn about!

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          2. Wolf, that’s quite the dream you had, but it sounds as if you know how to interpret and use it to your benefit. I’ve never had a dream quite like that.

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    1. it IS disgusting and they admitting using homeless (unstable likely) to cause trouble in the Project Veritas sting way back so…now they’re paying for the service. Sheesh.

      Also, in a wider view, ‘they’ are using huge numbers of technically homeless people globally. The migrants, asylum seekers, caravaners, they’re all for any intent and purpose, homeless. They’re human pawns living in tents, shelters, parks.

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        1. Right?! It’s manipulating them to go thousands of miles from home to become a bloc..basically waiting to be activated. Once the promises don’t materialize and the culture is not welcoming, how easy to plant the directive to take matters into their own hands or actually do the bidding of the puppet masters.
          The masters win/win. They can take over the land and resources from where the herd came from as well as control them remotely.
          Very clever.

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        2. The ANC (African National Congress) move homeless people in by the 10’s of thousands to create squatter communities in districts where they want to gain political control.

          This is not new – people are simply a means to an end for them. The end they seek is power – that is it.

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          1. Our new UN ambassador needs to TROLL the United Nations by introducing ANTI-GLOBALIST resolutions on INDUCED MIGRATIONS – making them criminal offenses that THEY will have to honor and prosecute THEMSELVES and their LACKEYS like SOROS!

            A HAIL of poison pills on the United Nations!

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            1. But the UN is such a CARING org. They want to save the PLANET!! Attacking the UN is like kicking a Koala, or should I say, a PANDA!!!

              The commies love to use Kompassion to manipulate us ….

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    2. These are professional trained agitators.

      One example:

      And we know one who is behind it:

      These are $0r0$ and Øbama’s army.

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      1. Our UN ambassador could rain a world of hurt on these F*ers by introducing THOUSANDS of UN resolutions that PUNISH globalists and force us back to sovereign internationalism.

        At first, this tactic will just be a nuisance, but as SANITY takes hold, it will take over. RED PILL the UN with a stream of ANON-STYLE memes dumped into their agenda until they get it. And all of these will be wheat-chaff sorters on Putin and Xi, too. UNMASK them all over the UN.

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    3. Remember what Robert Creamer said – he’d use the homeless, the destitute, the (former) felons, the mentally incompetent, and any of the dregs of society he could round up to do Satan Soros’s will…

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      1. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cuppa, I could not remember his name. He talked about using the homeless at Trump rallies, visited Obama WH over 300 times.
        Bob Creamer.

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      1. what if they altered the 302 so it appears that they talked about an issue with Flynn’s son? Or what if they actually DID talk about that?
        if Flynn allows the 302 to come out, then gallantly pleading guilty to keep his son out of it, would be a folly. so maybe he has to keep it secret now…


    1. Brian Cates take…Hmmmmm

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    1. This looks like simply a re-establishment of the old US Space Command that existed from 1985-2002. But it’s not even that because this will be part of the strategic command, whereas the old space command was at the same level as the strategic command.

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  10. According to USA today, the PA Attorney General and 44 other state Attorneys General intend to pursue Catholic priests for child abuse.

    I think this is important, and I say this not to burnish my anti-Christian bona fides so the cool kids will like me. Instead, I note that whilst we are fighting the communist/pedo/banker cabal that has controlled much of our government of the past few decades, the Islamists have gained a beachhead here. From their initial landings, they intend to live under Sharia law and to push the concept that we must accept those things Islam permits.

    We need to be able to defend the concept that people who live in our land must abide by our laws. Laws against child abuse and honor killings and female genital mutilation and the rape of infidels must be defended.

    To paraphrase British General Sir Charles Napier: “You say that it is your custom to do these things. Very well. We also have a custom: when men do these things, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”

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    1. Several states have been doing this for a long time. Mine has. We’re on the third “investigation” when every bishop for the last 17 years has opened the books in these parts only to discover that the archbishop from 1979-1994ish took care of the problem, at least here. What more is there to find? Other locations have not been so lucky.

      Frankly, I really wish the MO would have been to have a monastery on an island somewhere and park the whole lot of the abusers there. But, we can’t change the past, just recognize the root of the problem – accepting homosexuals into the priesthood where temptation is all around – and stop doing that like was the practice before the 20th century. A good many of the victims were of age young men.

      It’s a quandry, that’s for sure. And when the states’ AGs are done, maybe they can go after the public school districts where the problem is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH worse. Just sayin’.

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    1. Indeed. VSGPDJT accomplished what 11 Presidents before him were not able (or perhaps willing) to accomplish. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Øbozo did not end the conflict.

      And the YSM simply buried that incredible accomplishment.

      Having said that, students raised and mis-educated in our dumbed-down “skools” have no idea about what the Korean War was about, what role Truman and Macarthur played in it, and how the global stage would be MUCH different had the globalists been thwarted back then…

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      1. Subscribing is only useful for saving PDFs, IMO, but if you want to save the treads long-term, then PDFs are safest, since Twitter bans people to degrade our collective memory ON PURPOSE, and BANS destroy all their threadreaderapp pages.

        On many platforms you can save your own PDFs or other formats of the page for your own use, often by “printing to a file”, or you can archive them on various archive web pages. Or if you just want to support the project, subscribing makes sense.

        Personal decision, IMO.

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      2. No. I pulled this link from the repost at JoeM of the initial tweet. Thread readers are frequently posted at Praying M, etc.
        Darn! I just notice W already answered you with info I did not have.

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    1. I somewhat like this theory b/c of new insight I have into Q comms. They KNEW that the planefags are watching. They know that THIS particular cryptofag / polfag / scifag is watching. What they are doing is beautiful.

      I believe that the message to the former Presidents and wives and OTHERS in attendance (could be a large number) was HIDDEN in something very ordinary – and the IRONY of it was part of the message – WE ARE IN CONTROL USING YOUR OWN METHODS.

      See what I’m saying? A very innocent announcement that, say, Arlington would be closed that day for unspecified reasons. Totally normal, totally factual, totally intended. Nobody can prove a thing, but the secret message is delivered.

      This is absolutely brilliant stuff.

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      1. What makes this intriguing, IMO, is the tunnel possibilities not just in Washington, but everywhere else. Portland, Oregon, is supposedly riddled with them after the old Shanghai period of time when people where kidnapped off the street and ended up in China. San Francisco is said to be as well. My hometown I know is between the natural caves close to the river (the south leg of the Arch is on top of one that was filled with concrete, and the storage tanks at Anheuser-Busch are in another), the main storm drains that are covered over old rivers (this is a common practice), the steam tunnels, rail tunnels downtown that connect buildings and more.

        It’s kind of a cliche in action/adventure and spy movies, but they are everywhere, and who knows what sort of surveillance cameras if any are in them.

        Food for thought.

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        1. Seattle…Underground Tour…iconic example of building on top of the original city & mentioned in one of the graphics in that thread I noted today.

          Chicago? Located on the shores of one of the Great Lakes …

          Think ports…large rivers, lakes, bays, oceans, gulfs…..

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      2. I’m kinda psyched that I introduced the non-PC, Anon nomenclature here.

        Cryptofag, scifag, planefag, newfag, clockfag, invent your own -fag. Even Sylvia had some fun with it!

        Carry on, fellow Q-fags! lol

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      3. “A very innocent announcement that, say, Arlington would be closed that day for unspecified reasons…”
        A hidden message that they would understand, without saying something blatantly, makes sense to me. I could not imagine anyone on our side disrupting a funeral with some kind of threatening message, but something like this that seems perfectly innocuous and that can’t be proven to be anything else, I can see happening.

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      1. I don’t necessarily subscribe to all the details there, but a deliberate tracking of two concentric arcs in space, knowing it is being actively tracked by planefags, is a POINTER to any mathfag who gets the idea of a focal point. To normie presstitutes it’s a nothingburger. THAT is pure Q-comm, IMHO.

        “We came here for a reason.”

        YUP. All you need is ONE BIT that they don’t have.


  11. Uh oh Judge Sullivan is not taking any nonsense. He’s ordering Mueller to produce the missing 302 and make it public with redactions. And, if they do not have it? Well……

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        1. You are RAPIDLY burning your “100 posts of non-criticism” here.

          I hereby grant you another hundred.

          “I am LORD GARTH, Master of the Universe!”


          Hope you’re doing ok …

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            1. I heard it was a 303.

              Or a 203.

              But the file cabinet MUST be totally secure … and I’ve been TOLD that.

              Numbers are just numbers. No one’s responsible for just NUMBERS.

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              1. (to Cuppa)

                Yep – you’ve got it. The MAGIC number is 322, Schull and Bohnz.

                (Btw, belated thanks for your true translation of Schadenfreude – my interpretation was a mnemonic … and while it served, it was inaccurate.)

                In my post above, I sent up the perverted “logic” of the left / cabal disinfo-engineers. I engaged in flagrant MOCKERY.

                To reprise that perspective … “What are “302’s”, anyway? They’re just pieces of PAPER! I will not be oppressed by PAPER! And not by puny little NUMBERS, either! I am MORE than that! Numbers and letters and papers and the persons creating them … I RESIST their fear-mongering!”

                This, of course, is an example of the end-result of their insanity. We CANNOT let it stand, even for a moment, lest it take hold among the absent-minded “normies”. We’re over-late in this regard.

                In 2019, we shall take down voter-fraud, and media-propaganda. Gitmo will be filled, along with many other pleasant surprises.

                They shall fall.


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  12. I’m seeing a lot of despair sorts of posts from MAGA Americans. Ladies and gents it is Gaudete week, joy. Sunday’s readings this week are all about Rejoicing. God is near. Thankfully, the relatively easy to sing Georg Friederich Handel put the words from Zephaniah into song…one of the not so easy to sing airs out there. Here is America’s own prima dona (really nice gal) presenting her version. (Mine isn’t nearly so clean.)

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    1. Been enjoying the readings this Advent season in particular.
      Every day is a day to rejoice even when the darkest days are upon us.

      Somehow I ended up with the full app downloaded (even though that’s been closed to new users due to the church’s need to protect it’s copyrights ???).

      Hearing the readers and singers make the LOTH have a voice has really added to my practice of following the calendar’s readings.

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  13. “This SPECIAL D17 AS IN DQ MONDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.”


    After giving this a great deal of thought and consideration, weighing the gravity of current events and the need for circumspection… I have something I would like to tell the White Hats:

    DO it, Q! 😁

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      1. Yup, I wrote Santa a list …

        I’m expecting Santa to deliver my gifts ………. to a federal prison in the USA

        Or, ……… if Santa is feeling particularly generous ………. to Gitmo 🙂

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  14. Whoa – Judge Sullivan is mad.
    Good News.
    Judge Sullivan is the Judge who will sentence General Flynn tomorrow, scheduled.
    Sullivan ordered the FBI to produce all related docs, including the 302 (FBI report of those who interviewed Flynn) from January 24, 2017. Judge ordered the FBI to produce the docs by last Friday.
    The FBI did NOT produce a 302 from the original interview. Instead they produced a doc from August 22,2017, which is Peter Strvok TALKING about the interview in January.
    Today, Judge Sullivan commanded the FBI to produce the original doc.
    Let’s see what happens.
    Judge Sullivan is no pushover.
    Recall, Judge Contreras was the one who accepted Flynn’s plea. In the Page/Strvok text messages, we learned Judge Contreras was an old friend to Peter Strvok.
    Contreras was forcibly removed from the Flynn case.

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    1. Hmmm. From CTH:

      Hal says:
      December 17, 2018 at 9:17 pm
      Does it bother anybody else that the typeface on the 302 changes three times?


      Publius2016 says:
      December 17, 2018 at 9:27 pm
      more Vault 7 proof! they change date to March 2017!! SD, please review! Vault 7 exposed the Coup!

      Publius2016 says:
      December 17, 2018 at 9:27 pm

      Publius2016 says:
      December 17, 2018 at 9:27 pm
      in February 2017!

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        1. Also from CTH:

          Mike says:
          December 17, 2018 at 9:34 pm
          My experience as a police det. You dictate your report. You review the DRAFT, make any corrections, and then send it to records. To make a change after that, you have to do a supplemental report. An important report, you would do right after the interview, on overtime if necessary.

          This looks to me like they did the draft report by Feb 15th, and just held it as a draft (contrary to FBI policy reported by Sara Carter and others). Then, in May they changed it. Since it was still in “draft” form they could still change it (if it had been sent to records, they couldn’t change it without a paper trail). Then they had the “same” report with the draft header and the final report.

          I find it VERY difficult to believe a report involving the National Security Adviser to the President, wasn’t followed by the letter, FBI policy. The SC is claiming “inadvertently.” Bullsh*t.

          Unless someone with knowledge comes forward, I don’t know how you prove they fudged it. Sara reported the process, and explained what forms the judge needs to request on her site. She had FBI sources. If the judge requests those records it might prove, or at least suggest fraud.

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    2. Right.

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      1. And Barnes points out the corruption in evidence by the leaving 302 in draft form for months.

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  15. Okay, this adds a whole ‘nuther reason why they targeted Flynn:

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  16. God bless our Press Sec

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