Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181204

This SPECIAL TECH TYRANT TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

No illegalities, please!  We don’t want to give the TECH TYRANTS any excuses to TAKE our little remaining free speech, which helped obtain THEIR freedom to abuse us.

SPIT!

Today (Tuesday, December 4) will be the second day of Hanukkah, and the third day of Advent.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/hanukkah-2018/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/advent-2018-what-meaning-how-13663762

Say a prayer for free speech, and that these FOOLS don’t try to take much more of it, at all our peril.

W

You shall not take it from us.

782 thoughts on “Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181204

    1. that’s what i am waiting for but i need to leave the office.

      i cannot wait. again, we are held hostage. no truth can come pout because of that bush allowing several counter punches again by the other side. no eyeore here or whatever the f they called it at the other place. i am just a realist who thought it was wednesday and it’s only tuesday 🙂

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      1. Well Hello, Marica!

        You’ve found the best blog / forum on the internet!

        One thing I remember about you is your AMAZING positivity, and resoluteness.

        We spoke a few times pre-Q-tree, yes?

        Glad to see you!

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        1. Awwww 😊 Marica has such positive energy, and she and I commiserated via Twitter about redycung our time on Treehouse threads due to the Eeyores & hostility from anti-Sessioners & anti-Qers. I’m happy you made it here, Marica 😊🙄

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      1. They had class. I couldn’t stand GHWB, particularly after breaking No New Taxes (perhaps he was really promising no taxes on gnus), but they were old school (no, not that Old School) in their manners.

        I remember when the Left spent a month non-stop screeching/demaning that the President give a speech explaining safe sex (this was when AIDS was a relatively new thing, and quite scary).

        He finally knuckled under and gave the speech.

        He must have absolutely hated it, as beneath his dignity to have to discuss such things with strangers, and has to have wondered why the hell it was the responsibility of the President of the United States to discuss birds-and-bees related stuff in a speech.

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            1. Steve, glad you agree it was wrong, but I must add that he deserved to feel uncomfortable. I would hope his conscience was bothering him because he was acting wrongly. I think that incident was one of many meant to break down barriers of societal mores against certain sex practices, and these barriers were breached deliberately by well-known and respected public figures deliberately in order to break down these barriers (didn’t write this very well, got lost in my own narrative, sorry).

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              1. Ah, OK I think I see your point now.

                I do believe they were pushing, hard, the narrative that even heterosexual sex was hazardous and should be “protected.” So I didn’t see it quite as GHWB endorsing gay sex or anything like that. Stretched the boundaries, though that’s for sure.

                Just having the POTUS lecture people about such a deeply personal matter was bad enough. Ain’t the Prez’s job to tell people to wear a rubber.

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              2. that whole thing got a huge public acceptance of part of the united nations protocol for population control and “education” going in the guise of “health classes” being introduced pretty much mandatory everywhere in schools also. i mean, pretty much guaranteed you HAD to have the class. now they start that in 5th and 6th grade around here, not when you were a junior or senior and the football coach taught the class and it was a joke. they have classically trained teachers full blown teaching 5th and 6th graders. and then it’s repeated once or twice more (or in a different name) as school goes on.

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              3. Defining deviancy down. Normalizing the abnormal and marginalizing Judeo-Christian beliefs and values. For U.N. U think Soviet-communist goals, transformative.

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        1. Posting for prosperity before it gets deleted:

          jkash (@USjkash2) says:
          December 4, 2018 at 5:30 pm
          YOu were more discreet than I was. With the similar intention I alluded to wolfman1776 creating a site that was both supportive of these and also respectful of Sundance. Wolfman1776 is a model example for how to behave respectfully.

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          PS: the one like:

          MakeAmericaGreat

          Unbelievable. Can’t make this stuff up.

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    1. Breaks my heart to see folks worried about us and we can’t respond…
      While others are assuming anyone gone left because of Q and they’re GLAD.
      There are some here at Wolfmoon’s place that have NO IDEA why they were banned.

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      1. Yeah, it certainly stinks not being able to reassure people.

        And geesh, even the guy who professed neutrality (LP) then went on a rant about how Q was clogging the threads.

        Not nearly so much as the Sessions Bashing did. But he wasn’t around for a lot of that.

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          1. Wouldn’t it be cool to be able to jump in right after they say “I don’t mean to …..” and reply “THEN DON’T”…

            (H/T Larry Boy of Veggie Tales in King George and the Ducky) (because I love my duck…. 🙂 )…

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        1. I tried to place a comment regarding where everyone was and listed the website. I guess Adrem caught it because it never showed up.
          I do go back and “Like” certain comments but have not tried to comment again.
          I have been really turned off by the unchecked arrogance and cruel remarks they have made about the disappearance of some of the regulars. If they say those things about those of you who are intellectual posters and great contributors then they’re certainly not going to miss me. 😒
          I’m here for the Q WWG1WGA

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          1. Auto-Ban (what say you SteveInCO ?)

            I too was banned after providing the link to this site. It disappeared as soon as I hit “post comment”.
            I’m pretty sure Ad rem didn’t have to do a thing. Blog owners, admin, and/or moderators can control this through WordPress.

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              1. Several posters have pointed out his incorrect use of “infer” – not clear whether they got banned, though probably not, since it is not transparently obvious.

                I wonder if SD will reQuse (h/t Steve) himself from further commentary once the interstices in his granular construct become too large to further support the edifice upon which the TH has been planted?

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      2. I know what you mean, pR. Kind of hard to read the assumptions being made by ignorant people who are utterly assured they know exactly what happened and why and are explaining it all to others. There’s a whole lot of “life lessons to be learned” right there.

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        1. “I know what you mean, pR. Kind of hard to read the assumptions being made by ignorant people who are utterly assured they know exactly what happened and why and are explaining it all to others.”

          _____________________

          Some of those same people are utterly certain Q is ‘fake’, even as they profess to having only looked briefly (if at all) at the actual Q posts and never researched any of it. They just know.

          Like this guy:

          ………………………….
          “I don’t really know who the Q cultists were as I was so disinterested in the subject that once I had taken an initial look at the Q blog I immediately lost interest in it.”
          ………………………….

          This guy is rendering judgment about the legitimacy of Q, while others hit the ‘like’ button, applauding his lack of due diligence and proud confession of his own ignorance…

          It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

          Actually, it’s kinda funny anyway. 😁

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          1. Yup, ignore something if it is not for you – we all pursue different threads etc.

            What’s that old saying about don’t open your mouth if you don’t want people to realise your ignorance?

            He’s going the other way – He’s flaunting it. This is textbook virtue signalling …

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            1. Yep. I think it’s attributed to Lincoln (or perhaps Mark Twain):

              It is better to remain silent, and be thought a fool,
              Than to speak, and remove all doubt.

              Good advice, indeed…

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    2. Okay, so that was kind of unsettling. Perhaps a little like Tom Sawyer attending his own funeral. It was also nauseating. Shebythesea SAYS we got banned, and these dolts eyeballs apparently roll right past that or they don’t take it in. Instead it is all about choosing to leave, and SD so kindly, so GENTLY, so thoughtfully telling his troubled little children there was no Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy and we just…couldn’t handle the truth.

      I’m sorry, I really feel I do need to throw up.

      Between the superior elitist sneering of one poster and the condescending, unctuous, SD sucking up displayed by the other major participant in that convo I really do feel ill.

      And I’m hurt and disappointed by another that I considered a board friend. Ha! Well, live and learn. It is nice that some notice we’re gone and wonder what happened, and others are so glad we quit stinking up THEIR comment section they are still gleefully dancing around the campfire.

      Irony of ironies, I said very little about Q. I was just affronted at having junk yard trolls released to seek and destroy Qews.

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      1. these dolts eyeballs apparently roll right past that or they don’t take it in. Instead it is all about choosing to leave, and SD so kindly, so GENTLY, so thoughtfully telling his troubled little children there was no Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy and we just…couldn’t handle the truth.

        I’m sorry, I really feel I do need to throw up

        Here’s my spare barf bag. I used the one that isn’t a spare.

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          1. Ah, yes, that’s very, very true! (Of course I don’t know whether you wear your hair back or not.

            If it’s loose then of course it adds to the Sylvia the Shovel Wielding Avenger image.

            Another thought; if I hold the barf bag properly your hair is shielded.

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              1. Ohhh, that image. Eye bleach.

                *Cough* *gag* *hairball* *cough* *gag*… (worked for Motown [apologies to Wilson on “Home Improvement”…])

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        1. Got another one of those barf bags handy? You can send it my way. What struck me was the naked, blatant hubris on display by some “over there.” Seriously? Don’t break your arm while you are patting your own back! SMH

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      2. Agreed in full Ms. Avery.

        How shall we respond, should there come a time that they ask for our forgiveness ?

        We should rise above them. However, at least some crow should be on the menu !

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        1. I know that Wolf posited the “lifeboat” theory, that he had to get us all out for our own good / protection.

          My feeling is that we were summarily cast ASEA … and it was you, Wolf, who came along with a saving lifeboat. I refuse to believe that he was trying to SAVE us … by acting to SACRIFICE us.

          I’ll take my time, and plenty of it, before I trust again someone who consigned us to the briny deep.

          Ever see the movie “Down Periscope”, with Kelsey Grammar? THAT “consigning” was an enjoyable comedy; [ ]D+’s actions were a deplorable tragedy.

          I don’t think I’ll get back on that ship, no matter what words are advanced as remorse . apology.

          As always, I wish him luck. But it’ll be HIS luck … NOT mine.

          As an aside, I’d really like to see JW Germany here, too.

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          1. Great comments, and while I can tell you that Sundance DID KNOW there was a lifeboat, I cannot know everything he does.

            Likewise, Sundance also cannot know everything that is going on with me, although I believe that he DOES KNOW SOME THINGS. Hopefully not all of it is disinformation, but some may be. We are in a very interesting time.

            I have reason to believe that several attempts have been made to write me into a narrative to close out certain matters, and that such efforts not only continue, but are in high gear because of what is coming. Read that as FALSE FLAG.
            Thus there is a lot of uncertainty as to how my story exits here. I’ll explain a bit more soon. But the bottom line is that Sundance does not need certain liabilities that come with me, or the rest of the Q clan, on the site.

            Ride with Q, and you accept the mission. That mission isn’t an easy one. We are up against an enemy that seeks to destroy everything – even the knowledge of what we once were.

            The Q theme of WWG1WGA doesn’t necessarily mean we all travel the same road to get where we are going. Some will get there sooner than others. Some will have their names blackened by the enemy – others won’t. I am thankful that I have a larger perspective on things – it gives me strength.

            If I am parted from you, stick with the WWG1WGA crowd. They’re good people, ready to suffer and pay the price of freedom. There is only Q. W, like the Wolf, is a camp-follower. He comes and goes, but he will always be there, defending not only his own freedom, but everybody else’s.

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            1. W–now you got my sinuses acting up! I have a really good feeling we will all end up together somewhere on the “other side” of the Storm!! one way or the other 😉 Beautiful post!!!

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            2. I understand!

              I’ve been saving my posts here, and I hope that you also will save the tremendous value that you’ve created here yourself, and have engendered others to create with yo. When the time-after comes, I think some worry-free profit my come your way, by such a preservation. And others’ way, in reading the chronicles.

              The entire situation is aimed toward a SINGLE comms source. IMO, we SHALL be parted … perhaps to reunite, on the other side. No worries! I do what I can, here, now, to help.

              We cannot know what tomorrow will bring. Vis-a-vis the saying “It’ll all come out in the wash”, it is WE who will get washed.

              As you say, and as I believe … “There is only Q.”

              Best of good luck, soldier! And to all here …

              MAGA!

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        1. Short version is SD posted an article where he took a position on Q and basically he didn’t want any more Q talk in his house. Okay, fine. But his position was based on wildly inaccurate imaginings of who and what Q is/are and what Q has said, and he allowed ultra zealous trolls to run wild through the Treehouse for days making horrible statements and attacks on Q supporters.

          Understand, I knew it wasn’t personally directed at me because I posted very little about Q if ever. What was painful was the hatred turned against other Treepers because they follow Q. It was ugly.

          But it was really only the latest in a strange series of events where SD’s posts were growing more dark and despairing, troll activity was high, and regulars were disappearing from the board.

          So it was basically Veteran’s Day that this happened and I ended up here. It was like I tumbled down the rabbit hole and discovered this is where everyone went who I had noticed was gone. And more have been showing up.

          Around Nov. 11 there are some interesting threads here where people shared their experiences getting banned or learning they were banned. At the TH people assume you have to have been really bad to get banned. Not so much. You don’t have to have done anything at all except visit this blog and you can find yourself banned from the TH.

          Anyway, your posts were always a bright spot so I’m glad you’re here.

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          1. I moved over to twitter to follow Praying medic, Lisa Mei Crowley, Brian Cates, Bill Mitchell Rex, Wictor…All peeps SD followed…But it starting getting dark and desparate with SD not believing TRUMP had a plan…
            Then I watched in horror as SD started calling out good people with REAL NAMES–making fun- literally …saw a huge blowup and when the others took high road–SD took it real low.. SO…As much I loved the TREEPERS–well most–I lost a lot of respect–Still Love the guy, but not worth the depression that started getting to me–So I met a few good friends on twitter.
            But NOW!! I found you guys again! God is so good!!
            PS–2 nights ago – I commented to CTH (on twitter) that he was the biggest negative on twitter–and what happened? He actually responded “Reality bites” PS. You can unfollow me since you obviously need cheerleading…or something like that…
            SO …THE END!
            We are gonna have SOME KINDA FUN on here!! Wolfm00n is a lifesaver!!!!

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            1. Marica, your experience is very similar to what others have reported. And we’ve all been left wondering WTH happened????

              But as time passes that has become less and less important, I guess, and it’s just nice to have so many here to share the journey!

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            2. “Then I watched in horror as SD started calling out good people with REAL NAMES–making fun- literally …saw a huge blowup and when the others took high road–SD took it real low.. ”

              ___________________

              Is THAT why “Stealth Jeff” is using his (presumably) real name (Brian Cates) now?

              Did SD doxx him?

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          2. SA, so wonderfully put.

            I just want to add this aspect:

            All I ever did wrong was to suggest that Sessions might NOT be a Deep State Traitor. I explicitly stated, he might be, but I doubt it. But he might be, maybe the hyenas are correct (I did not use the word hyenas then, just now).

            Posters engaged in a daily, vicious bombardment of character assassination, too vicious to really take in, so cruel and sadistic it was.

            It is too bizarre and hysterical to understand, but the red line started at the proposition that Sessions MIGHT not be a Deep State Traitor, whatever else he MIGHT be.

            And that was the exact point upon which Sundance attacked me personally, which seemed like lunacy to me, as well as more character assassination.

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              1. I admit, my INTUITION tells me Sessions is an honorable man. But I could be wrong.

                Sundance attacked me on that point, my refusal to agree that Sessions was not honorable without further conclusive evidence.

                It is such a modest point.

                “MAYBE Sessions is not a Deep State Traitor”

                Sundance: “You must be a liar and a traitor to suggest that Sessions is not a Deep State Traitor.”

                Very, very bizarre, and the type of pov which when I encounter in my personal life I say to myself:

                Beware of this person, but also love them because they need to be loved.

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              2. I can tell you this – I am *positive* SD is under more danger and pressure than I am, and it ain’t no game. So I *love* your last statement. That is the way it is. Stand back with some sympathy. Best advice ever!

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              3. Also, W, let me point out something no one else will point out.

                This is an odd point of what, evaluation, assessment, judgment, wonderment.

                There have been certain – – as the hoity toity say – – “inflection points” scrubbed out of recent history, but significant to those paying attention.

                Waco I was one of many.

                To my mind, Waco II was a significant point, for many reasons far different from Waco II, or Ruby Ridge or others.

                Waco II is/was unique, but sharing.

                Sundance was brilliant in his analysis. supported by common everyday brilliant people like OldIowaGuy (probably wrong on the handle).

                Then Sundance precipitously dropped the whole thing. He had some obscure explanation like “these are biker gangs, so what” but he intimated something else.

                The sheer tyranny of Waco II has never been refuted, that I have seen.

                The two Wacos were so emblematic of what America is NOT about, regardless of the non-government participants, that is shocked me that Sundance gave up the pursuit of Waco II.

                But I did not question him or regard him badly. A man has his reasons, whatever, and a man is a man. Let the man’s reasons be his reasons.

                Sundance is not engaged in a game.

                A while back before I rejected Sundance, he has an unusual post alluding to two songs pertaining to himself. I cannot remember what those songs were.

                But he said: this is me, every line.

                So I listened to the songs, and read each lyric, keeping in mind the revelation Sundance had made.

                And I saw and accepted what Sundance was saying about himself.

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            1. That is just so peculiar. I just really can’t get over it. And then to have people on the board who have no clue what has happened be all fat, dumb, and happy theorizing that us miscreants must have really misbehaved to get 86’d, or we left in a huff because SD tried (so kindly, so gently–gag–so compassionately) that Q is not real and we just couldn’t handle reality.

              It is maddening. But of course, they don’t know. How could they know? But they are so prejudiced against Q followers or Q tolerant people that they ignorantly assume all sorts of awful things.

              And how do people revere SD so very much when he does stuff like that? Okay, I admit, as much time as I spent over there I didn’t see SD go after very many people very often. It was pretty rare. But I will say in most cases it seemed like he came down HARD on people who hadn’t done anything wrong or their transgression seemed pretty minor to me.

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              1. Sundance had his Captain Queeg moments.

                I remember when he so vividly expressed his disgust with the WHOLE board, EVERYONE, and “threatened” to require a password (“wolverines”) to post.

                And one or two other occasions where he expressed his DIGUST with a post and my reaction was: how would anyone have possibly known what they said was wrong?

                I just let that pass.

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              2. Inexplicable.

                I remember having the same feeling when I saw him go off on someone–how was someone to know what they said or asked was wrong, because it wasn’t obvious to me. I just remember thinking, “wow, glad that wasn’t me–whew.”

                So okay, now that I think about that a bit, WTH was the matter with me that I looked up to him so much? Yeah, he does good research if he wants to and his analysis is pretty good. I learned a LOT about trade and economics. I’m really grateful for that.

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              3. I got banned for sticking with the sting theory – which in broad seems to be correct. I may have been wrong on the details, cause looks like POTUS was “Stinger in Chief” – but that is in fact A GOOD THING – means the sting was not obvious.

                But the comment that got me banned on that thread was when I said to SD that it was ironic that an Aussie appeared to have more faith in his POTUS than SD. I felt bad as I hit send, but my blood was up.

                I apologised later by email – got no response.

                I no longer feel bad for that comment BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH. SD’s words and actions since my banning prove me right. I will not apologise for the truth. I will send them an e-mail withdrawing my apology.

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              4. the ONLY time SD replied to me was when I posited that Trump interviewed Mueller and the very next day RR appointed him special council–musing–NO Coincidences with POTUS TRUMP!
                He replied in ALL CAPS! SOMETIMES ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE!!!!!
                kinda scared me…
                I do Love SD for the early years and for his brilliant insight and analysis..But my sis and I just say sadly he’s off his meds…? Will keep him in my prayers….

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              5. “Okay, I admit, as much time as I spent over there I didn’t see SD go after very many people very often.”

                I don’t know what’s going on there, but I know this. He would not have to go after anyone publicly for people to be banned.

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              6. Very true. He would not. And in most cases, that is not what got people banned. In fact, I think it is fair to say most of us don’t know why we were banned, or we were banned after making a very innocuous comment, or were banned after posting here.

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              7. “And how do people revere SD so very much when he does stuff like that?”

                ________________

                Easy.

                Because SD’s prejudices and biases aligned with their own prejudices and biases, and reinforced them.

                ‘We’ were the targets, but ‘they’ are the choir.

                So ‘we’ have a very different perception of the ‘events’ as they unfolded than they do.

                What always stands out to me is their certitude, their absolute certainty that they are ‘right’, without having done hardly any due diligence.

                And even when you have done your due diligence, one has to allow for the possibility that you could be wrong.

                You don’t have to believe that you are wrong, in fact it’s very hard to operate on the assumption that you are wrong (I think Greg House, M.D. made a similar observation 😉 ), but you have to allow for the possibility and consider it.

                Because when you don’t — when you forget to allow for the possibility that you could be wrong — that becomes a HUGE blind spot in your analysis. And that is when you are most susceptible to going the wrong direction, rushing over the cliff with the entire herd of lemmings.

                For someone who runs his website in a somewhat authoritarian fashion — or anyone in a position of leadership, for that matter — it’s those who are willing to question or challenge that provide a figurative ’emergency brake’, a reason to pause and reflect on the possibility that one could be wrong, or at the very least, another point of view might have merit.

                If you purge all of those people, all you’re left with are kiss-asses and yes-men.

                And those people will never tell you anything they think you don’t want to hear.

                SD is certainly smart enough and experienced enough to know all of this, to recognize all of the red flags, and yet he’s ignoring all of it. He’s letting it happen. He’s helping it to happen.

                And that is very strange conduct for someone as capable as he is.

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              8. “Scott, so much wisdom and insight in your post.”

                ________________

                Oh, I doubt that, lol!

                You always say kind things, giving far more credit than I deserve, and it’s very disarming. That’s a very effective skill 😁

                I’m just trying to process, to examine from different angles, to work though various possibilities, to uncover some sort of coherent understanding of what’s going on and why — and we’re missing critical bits of information necessary to really pull it off with any adequate degree of confidence.

                But the exercise is interesting, like trying to solve a ‘whodunit’ 😉

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              9. Ha, ha, well you know how it is! What could be more wonderful than reading someone who is saying what you were thinking…even before you quite realized it! That makes the other person look BRILLIANT, but really it is all about me me me!

                I’m sorry you were banned, but I’m glad you’re here.

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            2. “A while back before I rejected Sundance, he has an unusual post alluding to two songs pertaining to himself. I cannot remember what those songs were.

              But he said: this is me, every line.

              So I listened to the songs, and read each lyric, keeping in mind the revelation Sundance had made.

              And I saw and accepted what Sundance was saying about himself. ”

              _________________

              I never saw that!

              If you can remember what the two songs were, please post them, that would be a fascinating insight to his view of himself, and might explain some of his behavior (in that context) that is otherwise inscrutable.

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              1. Now that I think about it, it seems like maybe I do remember something like you described, but I can’t be sure if I’m remembering it, or just thinking I remember it because I’m thinking about it now.

                Either way, if you remember the songs, please post them, it would be very interesting.

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              2. Searching the site seems to only bring up titles with the search terms…nothing rang a bell. Trying to remember…on or about his birthday…picture of whiskey and cigars I think. Song from his youth (1960s I guessed) and cultural change? And then another, newer song. Two different genres. Lots of comments along the line of “you deserve a break” and happy birthday, and “thanks for letting us know you are not going to be around for a while.”

                I don’t know if this will help at all…

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              3. My mind is telling me one was from AC/DC and the other from Jimmy Buffett, but I had never heard either before so the titles did not register.

                I bet Wheatie, Sylvia or daughnworks will know.

                I would be very curious to hear your take if you find them.

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      3. Hi there, been watching things unfold from afar for a while now. Didn’t think my post would make it through as couldn’t believe no one coming right out and saying it. Yeah, no one blinked.
        Love you guys, stay strong, the world is watching.

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        1. SheByTheSea, we love you, too, and just adore your name. Do you sell sea shells? Sorry, just couldn’t resist. You can ask Sylvia to whack me with her shovel.

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          1. Feeling welcome, thanks. Well I do collect sea shells by the sea, also have several shovels well used on nasty snakes and clay dirt, as I live in a forest, off grid. BB to WUWT to CTH to here I read daily for years for some sanity and hope. Posted a couple of times.
            My gut says JS was working hard on the plan. Followed Q from start, red pilled a few around me (in oz) and stocked up on popcorn. I do feel like I’m witnessing something big here, thanks for letting me tag along.

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            1. Since you’re off the grid, do you use “C” cells?
              (SORRY…ducks and runs…shovels to the left of me, shovels to the right of me 🙂 )…

              Agree with you on Sessions, too. I think he did an awful lot more that we are aware of. And perhaps what he did, in the end, will be most important. Think of the children…

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              1. 12 years with under 1Kw might as well be C cells! Finally upgrading next year as getting harder as getting older.
                Exactly, the amount of arrests and resignations as well as the whole Sun Tsu stuff of appearing weak and then striking hard…makes sense to me. I won’t underestimate VSGPDT at all after what I’ve read and seen him do already.

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            2. Shebythesea, I think your user name is so clever and really charming, in fact, I’m quite envious, but I do Not live by the sea, wish I did, nor off the grid, wish I could. Thank you for the response, you have been on cth much longer than I.

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      4. “Shebythesea SAYS we got banned, and these dolts eyeballs apparently roll right past that or they don’t take it in. Instead it is all about choosing to leave, and SD so kindly, so GENTLY, so thoughtfully telling his troubled little children there was no Santa Claus or Tooth Fairy and we just…couldn’t handle the truth.”

        ___________________

        Classic blue-pill reaction.

        When the truth is not ‘comfortable’ or does not reconcile with their preconceived notions, they just ignore it and make up their own explanation to reconcile with what they want to believe, one that makes them ‘feel’ better.

        Then another one comes along and builds on that false foundation. And another.

        Pretty soon the comfortable ‘error’ or false belief becomes the accepted belief, and discussion changes to different thoughts and opinions about the implications of the false belief, a sort of variation on ‘making the buyer think past the sale’.

        It’s an entire psychology of coping with conflict or ‘unpleasantness’ or ‘inconvenient truth’ by refusing to accept reality or even look closely at it. The condescension (references to Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy) and the enabling of SD’s conduct by spinning it as some kind of passive-aggressive ‘fatherly love’ (and SD letting that garbage stand) is like watching a train wreck.

        They will let no one come between them and their blue pill. 🙂

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    3. To me, Q is actually more a symbol of “up yours” to the people who try to ban him, than someone I’m going to place huge faith in (though it’s fun to read and extend on peoples’ interpretations).

      – – · – !!! and stick that where the sun don’t shine…

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    4. Nor’easter, this is UNREAL.
      Spit!
      One of those ‘do not look away’ moments.
      The “Make America Great” guy is a troll. Look at how he is commenting, feeding the division and casting shade, egging people on. Dear God, this is ugly.

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        1. I am seething. Ready to blow.
          But then I see this compliment to Wolfman.
          From Jkash @USjkash2
          “YOu were more discreet than I was. With the similar intention I alluded to wolfman1776 creating a site that was both supportive of these and also respectful of Sundance. Wolfman1776 is a model example for how to behave respectfully.”

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          1. Yep, that was the link I posted above. Wondering how long it will stay… then again, it was a very nice post (as opposed to the drivel surrounding it)…

            IIRC Jkash is a good poster…

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              1. (for Marica et al)

                “anybody seen Minnie?”

                She is here (has been for a week or two), and – thankfully – is leading many of our prayers. It’s one of her specialties!

                I think you’ll have some fun by going through past daily threads, and catching up on everything …

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    5. Half a dozen great names in that thread, people I did not realize meant so much to me. They still do.

      And Sundance cruelly lets them think what they think, when it could all be clarified so easily.

      Some of the comments were just sheer irony. I would use the word clueless, except these folks are not clueless, they are informed and understanding.

      Which shows to me, even informed and understanding people can be bamboozled and confused.

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        1. Yes, one and the same – but it was not over Sessions that I was removed from CTH – It was the LBGTXYZ business. Explanation

          I first found QTH through our sweet, kind gentleman, Felice LePore, and of course, knew and loved WolfM00n.

          Checked in here at CTH on 11/14. It’s a whole different, more loving, encouraging place. ☀️❤️ 🇺🇸

          Very grateful for Wolfie for getting the banned back together, giving us a place to talk things over, process our experiences, continue to seek truth together.

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        1. I agree. I suspect he was very cooperative in unraveling things.

          It could be very hard for him to remain, if his testimony upends the organization. Likewise, taking himself out with others is the honorable way, IMO. Even if he is a “white hat”, I can see resigning. It’s also a great way for the organization to recover, renew, find a new path.

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        2. There is also a legal aspect that may come into play concerning his status as a government employee versus that of a civilian, when it comes to testifying and/or whistleblowing (IANAL).

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        3. Yes. Remember PDJT tweeting about that horrible McCabe who was hanging on waiting for his pension and PDJT was NOT happy about that, and McCabe was fired before he could collect his pension.

          If nothing like that happens in this instance, I’m going to take note and ponder the significance of that.

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    1. I take issue with this twep’s tweet… there was NO investigation of Trump during the 2016 campaign
      there was wiretapping, false dossier creation, There was conspiracy to destroy the man. WJS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

      And, by the end of the year, or a day or two after, the FBI should be dismantled!!!! Priestep should not have been given immunity for talking… reduced sentence maybe… but NO IMMUNITY.

      Sylvia… you are giving up too easily. Get out your shovel gal… it’s whack-a-mole time.
      And I agree no pension… just fire and charge the guy.

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        1. Hm…..and who was it that led us to believe that?

          “Bill Priestap is the FBI Director of Counterintelligence. There’s no way he hasn’t been caught inside the investigative net.

          Bill Priestap’s boss, Andrew McCabe has been caught. Bill Priestap’s subordinate, Peter Strzok, has most certainly been caught. And in March 20th 2017 FBI Director Comey pushed Priestap directly in front of the congressional oversight bus.

          My hunch is either Bill Priestap is going to be the attempted fall-guy for the entire scheme. -OR- Bill Priestap saw the bus coming and is assisting the swamp-draining DC investigators:”

          and here:

          “All officials at the top of the FBI have either been removed or quit, with the exception of Bill Priestap. It is highly likely he has been cleared for any intentional wrongdoing and has no issues cooperating with INSD and IG investigators. Because of the importance of his role, Priestap likely knows the full context of how the FISA Title-1 application against U.S. person Carter Page was assembled and used. Priestap is also mentioned in the Nunes memo contradicting the claims of Comey, McCabe, Brennan (CIA) and Clapper (DNI).”

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          1. Turns out, according to other researchers,
            John P.Carlin was the good guy in counterintelligence…
            quit on his own… because he refused to sign FISA warrant…
            because he knew the truth…

            NOT PRIESTAP

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      1. I’m wondering a bit about the timing. I recall SD believed at least in the beginning that Priestap was cooperating. Perhaps he is leaving now because the investigation is over? If there was one, that is.

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  1. If you are into Atlantis and other such types of things, you might like this young man. I do.

    He has a series of videos on Atlantis, and his focus is ancient knowledge.

    This is his latest video on Atlantis, but you have to watch the others he posts to enjoy the Big Picture he presents.

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    1. Good. I saw today where a group rushed the border and made it over. I haven’t read any details so I don’t know how many and I’d like to know where it happened and how it happened. We need to keep those troops where they are. IMO.

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  2. Pardon me, but I cannot ignore the numbers. It’s like a twitch I get.
    Steve Mnuchin announced today, the USA has taken in 7 billion in tariffs – total – not merely China as one country.
    Meanwhile, the market is flippin’ out about a trade war.
    We’re a 20 trillion dollar economy.
    7 billion divided by 20 trillion = .035 of 1% of our economy.
    3 hundredths of one percent.
    It makes the blood pour out of my eyes – or wherever.

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    1. it is getting annoying that they are using the uneducated populace – either uneducated by circumstance or uneducated by choice – to dum up all this… well bologna!

      we are in a country where a solid 1/2 of the LEGAL population is completely brainwashed and is embassed of their own nation. they want us to fail. they applaude any bad news.

      i am frustrated today. i apologize to everyone here for some of my posts today. i was feeling horrible when i left work and reached into my pocket and realized my little good luck charm i usually carry i had forgotten! i mean i am not that superstitious but its my excuse for being a bit of a downer!

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      1. Andrew, we have have those downers. I feel frustrated, definitely, as more time seems to slip away and all the villains seem to be getting away with all they’ve done. I can’t wait to see some action. We’re all in much the same boat is my guess. It’ll come, but this waiting is plenty painful.

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    2. Don’t forget that DS folks will be pulling their resources in the market OUT, trying to avoid US Treasury seizing them when they are charged for RICO and/or human trafficking

      Having an affect on the market for sure

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  4. O/T from politics, but in reference to an earlier discussion:

    “It’s hard to believe that Big Pharma is the one making the most progress in proving that cannabis works! Well, maybe not so much ‘hard to believe’ as disheartening and depressing as heck.

    British company, GW Pharmaceuticals, has been a big name in cannabis pharmaceuticals since 1998. They’ve broken through the iron gates surrounding cannabis medicine, so much so that they even got CBD-extract medications (made by Big Pharma) to be removed from Schedule I.

    GW Pharma has developed cannabis-based drugs for multiple sclerosis and epilepsy, and now….cancer. That’s right. Big Pharma now holds the patent for cancer treatment using cannabis. Let. That. Sink. In. For. A. Moment.”

    https://www.rxleaf.com/post/11432/big-pharma-cancer-patent?fbclid=IwAR2Fj2xGe1LUVZB_AMJNmEhmtZ0BmzMbVDmHTMeEtUwcwRigAdI7Kq0GzTk

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    1. Sorry – guess I should delete the stuff at the end? If someone would be kind enough to tell me where in the string, exactly, to start deleting, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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        1. Maybe if we all clicked the full link (with the cookie id) at the same time, Zuck, Bezos, and Dorkey would turn into unicorns, sparkles, and pixie dust in an instant 🙂

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  5. If one really wants to be red-pilled, research Big Pharma and learn they have cures they have not disclosed.

    Then expand your horizons to “what have they NOT been telling us about EVERYTHING? Red-pill or shout conspiracy. Your choice.

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        1. Interesting thing about Eustace Mullins’s books is that they were published in runs of 10,000, and then bought up the next day and destroyed. What copies that are left are the ones that either he owned or would have gone to the complete repositories. There aren’t that many of them any more. The Library of Congress is one. That’s where he worked, actually.

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          1. Yes, I read the dedication to them. You have given me some incentive to see if I can find one now. Who bought/destroyed them? And, beyond the obvious, why? OK, now I want to do more research on Eustace!

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          2. So good to have you here DP…
            you bring a wealth of experience and knowledge that fits many puzzle pieces together.

            If you have told me twenty years ago that someone’s books were burned in toto as you stated, I probably would not have believed (too naive)… BUT I am different today. Very cynical.

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            1. Man, do I resemble that remark! On the one hand, this is the reason I am sooooo dedicated about staying aware and informed now – I feel so guilty for NOT being aware. At the same time, I mourn the loss of my naivete. IMO, it tears at good people’s souls to imagine…..try to imagine how human beings can be so deeply and thoroughly evil and self-serving.

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    1. Sad thing is, it IS a conspiracy! One will also find in their research that Big Pharma (read: rich elites) CAUSED many of those diseases in the first place – intentionally.

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      1. They have a completely integrated operation, so to speak. They (e.g. Monsant/BASF [heyyyy it’s IG Farben all over again]) control the seeds/seed distribution, the fertilizers, the weed/insect killers, the spice and flavoring industries, the chemical and perfume industries, probably the distribution and price-fixing cartels, then pharma and medical device outfits (for when their food makes you sick). Not sure if they have any “interest” in the grave-digging or crematory industries.

        So, yep, those mega globalist companies have control from the cradle to the grave (and can accelerate one stage to the next, or last, quite quickly). One world, one company, Satan Inc. Just like Soros…

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    2. Business-Insider, Harvard trustworthy enough for you (if you’re still on the blue pills, they surely are)…
      but… but why is DS letting this out in dribbles?

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      1. Really Advanced tech may be DS’s next big distraction, even Aliens if they think that will STOP d5

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        1. IIRC, Q said that the hoax of landed “aliens” would be their final ploy, to fear-capture the uninformed masses.

          Elvis too?

          Remember the movie “Independence Day”, where the roof-top alien-welcomers included some total ditz who cried “Ooh, I hope they bring back Elvis!!!”

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          1. We’d best be careful. Remember the Twlight zone episode “To Serve Man”
            https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734684/
            An alien race comes to Earth, promising peace and sharing technology. A linguist and his team set out to translate the aliens’ language, using a book whose title they deduce is “To Serve Man”.
            Storyline
            Michael Chambers recounts recent events on Earth after the arrival of a alien space craft. The aliens, known as Kanamit, seem friendly and assure everyone they have nothing to be afraid of. In fact, they offer to share wonderful technology that will provide limitless energy, cure all disease and convert deserts into lush gardens. For the people of Earth, paradise has arrived. Chambers is an encryption specialist and they try their best to decrypt a book the Kanamit left behind. The book’s title seems benign – but it’s not what they think it is. Written by garykmcd

            The Cookbook! 🙂

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            1. I haven’t seen that episode, Johnny – thanks for posting it!

              I gotta check it out, now!

              We’re facing the same thing – a cookbook. But as a reality, rather than a fiction … and the chefs aren’t aliens … but human.

              These people are SICK.

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          2. believe me, this scenario or something similar is exactly what is keeping me in a manic mode for the last year and a half! my twist is that i don’t think all of it will be “fake” but just not what you might (or they might want you to) “think” it is…

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            1. Sscott, exactly. was just thinking of that. shift on my keyboard sticks so much I’ve pretty much given up on it. lol.

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      1. I’m sure. Even St. Jack and his brothers. I can’t say too much, but the whole lot of them hid behind good publicity and feel good non-profits for quite a while. I was red pilled on them while working for them after a fashion.

        The Danforths are another family that sold out. Their grandfather’s company, Ralston-Purina, went to Nestle.

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        1. Ouch. Sounds like an RPG (random program generator 🙂 ) program. Matching record, watch out when you get to the calcs section 🙂

          The first programming language where “off by one” was a feature…

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  6. Wolfmoon,

    appreciate your thoughts on this…

    I read today (Robert Barnes I think) that if Mueller files report on sentencing for Gen Flynn it means SC is wrapped up, if he postpones the sentencing again, SC will continue…

    Lisa Mae is reporting that Mueller has filed the report (about an hour ago)…

    they are waiting to discover what is in the report.

    What say you (or anyone) wrt to this?

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    1. DP,
      C-Span has a similar video…
      scroll mouse to upper right corner,
      right click and copy Video Address comes up
      click that and then paste wherever you want to post

      I don’t know how to post the one from CNN – it comes up with a lengthy menu and.. I’m low-tech

      Here’s the C-Span video

      and yes I agree about being moved… Bob Dole is a gentleman, a proud man. Can’t imagine the conflict he struggles with having to be held up to stand, yet determined to salute his peer, his friend. iirc Dole did the same recently, was it the SOTU address when POTUS recognized the young man who had been crippled escaping communism, and Dole stood to honor him? We are truly all one, even the evil ones among us. No matter who has died, the passing is a sacred thing. imho

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      1. Marica, you are welcome…

        to copy and paste tweet… move mouse to upper right corner, click on the down arrow,
        pop-up menu appears, click on copy link to tweet and
        paste where you want it to appear… [PatrickHenryCensored at the ol’ watering hole had another method, perhaps a click shorter, I don’t know it though! I do miss his posts… such a witty guy too]

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    1. Criminal prosecution of the senior DOJ official was declined.
      The senior DOJ official retired from his position.
      The OIG has completed its investigation and provided its report to the OJP for appropriate
      action

      Who would this be Filly?

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  7. RE: Flynn sentencing. What the Communists will seize upon.
    — Flynn ‘substantially cooperated with Mueller
    — Flynn was interviewed 25 times
    — Flynn gave first hand info of contacts with ‘Russian officials’ and the Trump Team during the campaign and during the transition
    The whole thing could be completely innocent.
    Any Russian could be defined as an ‘official’.
    Nothing wrong with talking to counterparts in Russia during transition.
    Counterpoints
    Who illegally leaked the Flynn phone call with Kislyak to the WaPost??
    Why did Sally Yates seek to inform the President, days after inauguration, Flynn violated an obscure Logan Act?
    Comey testified he didn’t think Flynn lied.
    McCabe “”
    Strvok “”
    Page “”
    The only person who thought Flynn lied was Mueller.

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  8. Lisa Mei RT’d this THREAD… love what this guy is saying… it’s what I USED to believe was happening when I still posted at the ol’ watering hole… and then… negativity hit… but I’m doing my happy dance (not really, ankle still healing!)

    It’s a THREAD – there’s more… just had to lure you in!

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    1. It’s all in his tweeter feed…

      Never understood why he doesn’t post his tweets to the CTH…
      Anyway they’re here *https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2
      Remove the asterisk before pasting

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      1. I just checked his twitter feed again…

        about 2nd or maybe 3rd tweet about VP Pence’s
        involvement…

        why is he muddying up the waters with that?

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        1. phoenix—He’s crowing about his post in 2016 after Potus got elected that he warned about Flynn.. Not sure what is going on there–at ALL!

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  10. Holy SMOKES Batman!!! Have you all seen this? Long article that I skimmed… But worth looking into!!
    No time right now…

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